This is an example of you guys destroy left wing arguments.
Me “we should do Medicare for all”
You “at what cost?”
Me “well studies show it would be about the same as what we currently pay for healthcare. Some show a little less, some show a little more.”
You “yeah but at what cost???”
Destroyed.
I’m all for Medicare for All. The problem I have with it is I know damn well our government will fuck it up with partisan bullshit
I think this is a fair position. Republicans hate the government so they try and sabotage it, liberals love the government because they get rich off it but don’t really care if things go wrong.
We can’t change this overnight but if we all start supporting better candidates, we can fix it.
Liberals love power. They suck at running the government. Government schools, government housing, government run healthcare are all garbage. Look what the Government did to the VA. Hate Trump all you like but he did make that crappy system better something no Rat or Republican was able to do before him.
You're not going to fix it. You'll make it more expense and you'll make it suck even more there is no way you'll ever fix it because you don't have a fucking clue about what caused it to suck in the first place.
You were busying cheering the wonders of government housing but the reality is you'd never live it and you'd run as fast as you could if you were ever forced to live in it. But in your pea sized brain the problems with government housing is because we just don't have the right people running it, which completely ignores all of the real reasons why it sucks.
This is an example of you guys destroy left wing arguments.
Me “we should do Medicare for all”
You “at what cost?”
Me “well studies show it would be about the same as what we currently pay for healthcare. Some show a little less, some show a little more.”
You “yeah but at what cost???”
Destroyed.
I’m all for Medicare for All. The problem I have with it is I know damn well our government will fuck it up with partisan bullshit
I think this is a fair position. Republicans hate the government so they try and sabotage it, liberals love the government because they get rich off it but don’t really care if things go wrong.
We can’t change this overnight but if we all start supporting better candidates, we can fix it.
You mean the ones NOT taking money from the Medical Mafia and Big Pharma??
Good luck with that.
You could get me to support a M4A of you created real, market-based competition to drive down pricing.
As we? covered, good luck with that.
Healthcare is an inelastic good. Your market forces mumbo jumbo doesn’t work. This is a fact and it is beyond dispute.
This is an example of you guys destroy left wing arguments.
Me “we should do Medicare for all”
You “at what cost?”
Me “well studies show it would be about the same as what we currently pay for healthcare. Some show a little less, some show a little more.”
You “yeah but at what cost???”
Destroyed.
I’m all for Medicare for All. The problem I have with it is I know damn well our government will fuck it up with partisan bullshit
I think this is a fair position. Republicans hate the government so they try and sabotage it, liberals love the government because they get rich off it but don’t really care if things go wrong.
We can’t change this overnight but if we all start supporting better candidates, we can fix it.
You mean the ones NOT taking money from the Medical Mafia and Big Pharma??
Good luck with that.
You could get me to support a M4A of you created real, market-based competition to drive down pricing.
As we? covered, good luck with that.
Healthcare is an inelastic good. Your market forces mumbo jumbo doesn’t work. This is a fact and it is beyond dispute.
This is how we? know you aren't a deep thinker.
The only part of medicine that is truly inelastic is actual emergency services - heart attack, stroke, snapped a leg in half or otherwise maimed yourself.
ALL the rest of it should work like any other technology that gets cheaper over tim. Like the 80" flat screen on your wall.
But it doesn't.
Why? Because the Medical Mafia and Big Pharma spend BILLIONS lobbying congress every year to create rules ensuring payments and effectuating an artificial monopoly over the market.
Econ 101 - Monopolies only benefit suppliers. Really entry level concept here. One AOC and Bernie seem intent on failing to grasp.
Trump forced hospitals to disclose the cost of care up front. A straight up WIN for the little guy. But since orangeman bad, really super bad, neither you or the MSM paid an ounce of attention to that win for the plebiscite.
That’s just not what the data says. Kidney transplants are like flat screens tv is a big brain libertarian idea but this is a hard evidence only thread and you don’t have any.
Good on Trump. Sometimes horrible people do good things.
That’s just not what the data says. Kidney transplants are like flat screens tv is a big brain libertarian idea but this is a hard evidence only thread and you don’t have any.
Good on Trump. Sometimes horrible people do good things.
Big Pharma supporter Helicopter posts gibberish. Film whenever you want on YouTube.
This is an example of you guys destroy left wing arguments.
Me “we should do Medicare for all”
You “at what cost?”
Me “well studies show it would be about the same as what we currently pay for healthcare. Some show a little less, some show a little more.”
You “yeah but at what cost???”
Destroyed.
I’m all for Medicare for All. The problem I have with it is I know damn well our government will fuck it up with partisan bullshit
I think this is a fair position. Republicans hate the government so they try and sabotage it, liberals love the government because they get rich off it but don’t really care if things go wrong.
We can’t change this overnight but if we all start supporting better candidates, we can fix it.
You mean the ones NOT taking money from the Medical Mafia and Big Pharma??
Good luck with that.
You could get me to support a M4A of you created real, market-based competition to drive down pricing.
As we? covered, good luck with that.
Healthcare is an inelastic good. Your market forces mumbo jumbo doesn’t work. This is a fact and it is beyond dispute.
This is how we? know you aren't a deep thinker.
The only part of medicine that is truly inelastic is actual emergency services - heart attack, stroke, snapped a leg in half or otherwise maimed yourself.
ALL the rest of it should work like any other technology that gets cheaper over tim. Like the 80" flat screen on your wall.
But it doesn't.
Why? Because the Medical Mafia and Big Pharma spend BILLIONS lobbying congress every year to create rules ensuring payments and effectuating an artificial monopoly over the market.
Econ 101 - Monopolies only benefit suppliers. Really entry level concept here. One AOC and Bernie seem intent on failing to grasp.
Trump forced hospitals to disclose the cost of care up front. A straight up WIN for the little guy. But since orangeman bad, really super bad, neither you or the MSM paid an ounce of attention to that win for the plebiscite.
Things that have gotten substantially cheaper -Lasik eye surgery, breast implants, tummy tucks. None involving the government or insurance. All subject to a lot of advertising which indicates strong competition. Trump started a competitive push. We just need to finish it. When you see advertisement for hip replacement surgeries and the cost you will know it is getting cheaper. Starting to see a little of it with testosterone treatments and ED meds. Need to get everyone on high deductible HSA programs and self-funded HSAs. When you are using other people's money, you don't care about the cost. You do if it is your money.
This is an example of you guys destroy left wing arguments.
Me “we should do Medicare for all”
You “at what cost?”
Me “well studies show it would be about the same as what we currently pay for healthcare. Some show a little less, some show a little more.”
You “yeah but at what cost???”
Destroyed.
I’m all for Medicare for All. The problem I have with it is I know damn well our government will fuck it up with partisan bullshit
I think this is a fair position. Republicans hate the government so they try and sabotage it, liberals love the government because they get rich off it but don’t really care if things go wrong.
We can’t change this overnight but if we all start supporting better candidates, we can fix it.
You mean the ones NOT taking money from the Medical Mafia and Big Pharma??
Good luck with that.
You could get me to support a M4A of you created real, market-based competition to drive down pricing.
As we? covered, good luck with that.
Healthcare is an inelastic good. Your market forces mumbo jumbo doesn’t work. This is a fact and it is beyond dispute.
The kobe's of the world were stupid. Just like one of BO's "affordable care act" architects admitted publicly. How anyone could get behind this after what Jonathan Gruber admitted is a mystery but here Kobe is, proving Gruber right over and over and over again.
""This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes," he said during a panel discussion at the University of Pennsylvania in October, 2013. "Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the 'stupidity of the American voter' or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical to getting the thing to pass.”
The kobe's of the world were stupid. Just like one of BO's "affordable care act" architects admitted publicly. How anyone could get behind this after what Jonathan Gruber admitted is a mystery but here Kobe is, proving Gruber right over and over and over again.
""This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes," he said during a panel discussion at the University of Pennsylvania in October, 2013. "Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the 'stupidity of the American voter' or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical to getting the thing to pass.”
But, but the evil Republicans forced them to do that.
This is an example of you guys destroy left wing arguments.
Me “we should do Medicare for all”
You “at what cost?”
Me “well studies show it would be about the same as what we currently pay for healthcare. Some show a little less, some show a little more.”
You “yeah but at what cost???”
Destroyed.
I’m all for Medicare for All. The problem I have with it is I know damn well our government will fuck it up with partisan bullshit
I think this is a fair position. Republicans hate the government so they try and sabotage it, liberals love the government because they get rich off it but don’t really care if things go wrong.
We can’t change this overnight but if we all start supporting better candidates, we can fix it.
You mean the ones NOT taking money from the Medical Mafia and Big Pharma??
Good luck with that.
You could get me to support a M4A of you created real, market-based competition to drive down pricing.
As we? covered, good luck with that.
Healthcare is an inelastic good. Your market forces mumbo jumbo doesn’t work. This is a fact and it is beyond dispute.
This is how we? know you aren't a deep thinker.
The only part of medicine that is truly inelastic is actual emergency services - heart attack, stroke, snapped a leg in half or otherwise maimed yourself.
ALL the rest of it should work like any other technology that gets cheaper over tim. Like the 80" flat screen on your wall.
But it doesn't.
Why? Because the Medical Mafia and Big Pharma spend BILLIONS lobbying congress every year to create rules ensuring payments and effectuating an artificial monopoly over the market.
Econ 101 - Monopolies only benefit suppliers. Really entry level concept here. One AOC and Bernie seem intent on failing to grasp.
Trump forced hospitals to disclose the cost of care up front. A straight up WIN for the little guy. But since orangeman bad, really super bad, neither you or the MSM paid an ounce of attention to that win for the plebiscite.
Things that have gotten substantially cheaper -Lasik eye surgery, breast implants, tummy tucks. None involving the government or insurance. All subject to a lot of advertising which indicates strong competition. Trump started a competitive push. We just need to finish it. When you see advertisement for hip replacement surgeries and the cost you will know it is getting cheaper. Starting to see a little of it with testosterone treatments and ED meds. Need to get everyone on high deductible HSA programs and self-funded HSAs. When you are using other people's money, you don't care about the cost. You do if it is your money.
Yeah, it’s almost like elective surgery and healthcare are two separate things.
So far you guys have compared chemo therapy to flat screen TVs and tummy tucks. Stop, it embarrassing.
This is an example of you guys destroy left wing arguments.
Me “we should do Medicare for all”
You “at what cost?”
Me “well studies show it would be about the same as what we currently pay for healthcare. Some show a little less, some show a little more.”
You “yeah but at what cost???”
Destroyed.
I’m all for Medicare for All. The problem I have with it is I know damn well our government will fuck it up with partisan bullshit
I think this is a fair position. Republicans hate the government so they try and sabotage it, liberals love the government because they get rich off it but don’t really care if things go wrong.
We can’t change this overnight but if we all start supporting better candidates, we can fix it.
You mean the ones NOT taking money from the Medical Mafia and Big Pharma??
Good luck with that.
You could get me to support a M4A of you created real, market-based competition to drive down pricing.
As we? covered, good luck with that.
Healthcare is an inelastic good. Your market forces mumbo jumbo doesn’t work. This is a fact and it is beyond dispute.
This is how we? know you aren't a deep thinker.
The only part of medicine that is truly inelastic is actual emergency services - heart attack, stroke, snapped a leg in half or otherwise maimed yourself.
ALL the rest of it should work like any other technology that gets cheaper over tim. Like the 80" flat screen on your wall.
But it doesn't.
Why? Because the Medical Mafia and Big Pharma spend BILLIONS lobbying congress every year to create rules ensuring payments and effectuating an artificial monopoly over the market.
Econ 101 - Monopolies only benefit suppliers. Really entry level concept here. One AOC and Bernie seem intent on failing to grasp.
Trump forced hospitals to disclose the cost of care up front. A straight up WIN for the little guy. But since orangeman bad, really super bad, neither you or the MSM paid an ounce of attention to that win for the plebiscite.
Things that have gotten substantially cheaper -Lasik eye surgery, breast implants, tummy tucks. None involving the government or insurance. All subject to a lot of advertising which indicates strong competition. Trump started a competitive push. We just need to finish it. When you see advertisement for hip replacement surgeries and the cost you will know it is getting cheaper. Starting to see a little of it with testosterone treatments and ED meds. Need to get everyone on high deductible HSA programs and self-funded HSAs. When you are using other people's money, you don't care about the cost. You do if it is your money.
Yeah, it’s almost like elective surgery and healthcare are two separate things.
So far you guys have compared chemo therapy to flat screen TVs and tummy tucks. Stop, it embarrassing.
Most surgeries that are performed are elective. It's not almost like you're a fucking moron, you are a fucking moron. Now tell how knee surgery and healthcare are two separate things dumbfuck?
This is an example of you guys destroy left wing arguments.
Me “we should do Medicare for all”
You “at what cost?”
Me “well studies show it would be about the same as what we currently pay for healthcare. Some show a little less, some show a little more.”
You “yeah but at what cost???”
Destroyed.
I’m all for Medicare for All. The problem I have with it is I know damn well our government will fuck it up with partisan bullshit
I think this is a fair position. Republicans hate the government so they try and sabotage it, liberals love the government because they get rich off it but don’t really care if things go wrong.
We can’t change this overnight but if we all start supporting better candidates, we can fix it.
You mean the ones NOT taking money from the Medical Mafia and Big Pharma??
Good luck with that.
You could get me to support a M4A of you created real, market-based competition to drive down pricing.
As we? covered, good luck with that.
Healthcare is an inelastic good. Your market forces mumbo jumbo doesn’t work. This is a fact and it is beyond dispute.
This is how we? know you aren't a deep thinker.
The only part of medicine that is truly inelastic is actual emergency services - heart attack, stroke, snapped a leg in half or otherwise maimed yourself.
ALL the rest of it should work like any other technology that gets cheaper over tim. Like the 80" flat screen on your wall.
But it doesn't.
Why? Because the Medical Mafia and Big Pharma spend BILLIONS lobbying congress every year to create rules ensuring payments and effectuating an artificial monopoly over the market.
Econ 101 - Monopolies only benefit suppliers. Really entry level concept here. One AOC and Bernie seem intent on failing to grasp.
Trump forced hospitals to disclose the cost of care up front. A straight up WIN for the little guy. But since orangeman bad, really super bad, neither you or the MSM paid an ounce of attention to that win for the plebiscite.
Things that have gotten substantially cheaper -Lasik eye surgery, breast implants, tummy tucks. None involving the government or insurance. All subject to a lot of advertising which indicates strong competition. Trump started a competitive push. We just need to finish it. When you see advertisement for hip replacement surgeries and the cost you will know it is getting cheaper. Starting to see a little of it with testosterone treatments and ED meds. Need to get everyone on high deductible HSA programs and self-funded HSAs. When you are using other people's money, you don't care about the cost. You do if it is your money.
Yeah, it’s almost like elective surgery and healthcare are two separate things.
So far you guys have compared chemo therapy to flat screen TVs and tummy tucks. Stop, it embarrassing.
Most surgeries that are performed are elective. It's not almost like you're a fucking moron, you are a fucking moron. Now tell how knee surgery and healthcare are two separate things dumbfuck?
Knee surgery, tummy tuck, I literally can’t tell the difference.
This is an example of you guys destroy left wing arguments.
Me “we should do Medicare for all”
You “at what cost?”
Me “well studies show it would be about the same as what we currently pay for healthcare. Some show a little less, some show a little more.”
You “yeah but at what cost???”
Destroyed.
I’m all for Medicare for All. The problem I have with it is I know damn well our government will fuck it up with partisan bullshit
I think this is a fair position. Republicans hate the government so they try and sabotage it, liberals love the government because they get rich off it but don’t really care if things go wrong.
We can’t change this overnight but if we all start supporting better candidates, we can fix it.
You mean the ones NOT taking money from the Medical Mafia and Big Pharma??
Good luck with that.
You could get me to support a M4A of you created real, market-based competition to drive down pricing.
As we? covered, good luck with that.
Healthcare is an inelastic good. Your market forces mumbo jumbo doesn’t work. This is a fact and it is beyond dispute.
This is how we? know you aren't a deep thinker.
The only part of medicine that is truly inelastic is actual emergency services - heart attack, stroke, snapped a leg in half or otherwise maimed yourself.
ALL the rest of it should work like any other technology that gets cheaper over tim. Like the 80" flat screen on your wall.
But it doesn't.
Why? Because the Medical Mafia and Big Pharma spend BILLIONS lobbying congress every year to create rules ensuring payments and effectuating an artificial monopoly over the market.
Econ 101 - Monopolies only benefit suppliers. Really entry level concept here. One AOC and Bernie seem intent on failing to grasp.
Trump forced hospitals to disclose the cost of care up front. A straight up WIN for the little guy. But since orangeman bad, really super bad, neither you or the MSM paid an ounce of attention to that win for the plebiscite.
Things that have gotten substantially cheaper -Lasik eye surgery, breast implants, tummy tucks. None involving the government or insurance. All subject to a lot of advertising which indicates strong competition. Trump started a competitive push. We just need to finish it. When you see advertisement for hip replacement surgeries and the cost you will know it is getting cheaper. Starting to see a little of it with testosterone treatments and ED meds. Need to get everyone on high deductible HSA programs and self-funded HSAs. When you are using other people's money, you don't care about the cost. You do if it is your money.
Yeah, it’s almost like elective surgery and healthcare are two separate things.
So far you guys have compared chemo therapy to flat screen TVs and tummy tucks. Stop, it embarrassing.
What is embarrassing is that they both are medicine so why has one dropped in price while having huge leaps in effectiveness. I know you leftards have no ability to wonder about things, just say stupid things and feels. What doesn't make it cheaper is offering "free" medical care to illegal aliens.
This is an example of you guys destroy left wing arguments.
Me “we should do Medicare for all”
You “at what cost?”
Me “well studies show it would be about the same as what we currently pay for healthcare. Some show a little less, some show a little more.”
You “yeah but at what cost???”
Destroyed.
I’m all for Medicare for All. The problem I have with it is I know damn well our government will fuck it up with partisan bullshit
I think this is a fair position. Republicans hate the government so they try and sabotage it, liberals love the government because they get rich off it but don’t really care if things go wrong.
We can’t change this overnight but if we all start supporting better candidates, we can fix it.
You mean the ones NOT taking money from the Medical Mafia and Big Pharma??
Good luck with that.
You could get me to support a M4A of you created real, market-based competition to drive down pricing.
As we? covered, good luck with that.
Healthcare is an inelastic good. Your market forces mumbo jumbo doesn’t work. This is a fact and it is beyond dispute.
This is how we? know you aren't a deep thinker.
The only part of medicine that is truly inelastic is actual emergency services - heart attack, stroke, snapped a leg in half or otherwise maimed yourself.
ALL the rest of it should work like any other technology that gets cheaper over tim. Like the 80" flat screen on your wall.
But it doesn't.
Why? Because the Medical Mafia and Big Pharma spend BILLIONS lobbying congress every year to create rules ensuring payments and effectuating an artificial monopoly over the market.
Econ 101 - Monopolies only benefit suppliers. Really entry level concept here. One AOC and Bernie seem intent on failing to grasp.
Trump forced hospitals to disclose the cost of care up front. A straight up WIN for the little guy. But since orangeman bad, really super bad, neither you or the MSM paid an ounce of attention to that win for the plebiscite.
Things that have gotten substantially cheaper -Lasik eye surgery, breast implants, tummy tucks. None involving the government or insurance. All subject to a lot of advertising which indicates strong competition. Trump started a competitive push. We just need to finish it. When you see advertisement for hip replacement surgeries and the cost you will know it is getting cheaper. Starting to see a little of it with testosterone treatments and ED meds. Need to get everyone on high deductible HSA programs and self-funded HSAs. When you are using other people's money, you don't care about the cost. You do if it is your money.
Yeah, it’s almost like elective surgery and healthcare are two separate things.
So far you guys have compared chemo therapy to flat screen TVs and tummy tucks. Stop, it embarrassing.
Most surgeries that are performed are elective. It's not almost like you're a fucking moron, you are a fucking moron. Now tell how knee surgery and healthcare are two separate things dumbfuck?
Knee surgery, tummy tuck, I literally can’t tell the difference.
The kobe's of the world were stupid. Just like one of BO's "affordable care act" architects admitted publicly. How anyone could get behind this after what Jonathan Gruber admitted is a mystery but here Kobe is, proving Gruber right over and over and over again.
""This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes," he said during a panel discussion at the University of Pennsylvania in October, 2013. "Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the 'stupidity of the American voter' or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical to getting the thing to pass.”
“But Gruber didn’t work for the Obama administration!”
One of my favorite Lib defenses when this came out years ago. He didn’t “work for the Obama administration” because he was on a federal contract that paid him $400,000 for a few months of work stuffing ObamaCare with handouts for donors instead of the $175,000ish he’d be capped at annually officially working as a federal employee.
Leftists can only thrive on the ignorance of their base.
This is an example of you guys destroy left wing arguments.
Me “we should do Medicare for all”
You “at what cost?”
Me “well studies show it would be about the same as what we currently pay for healthcare. Some show a little less, some show a little more.”
You “yeah but at what cost???”
Destroyed.
I’m all for Medicare for All. The problem I have with it is I know damn well our government will fuck it up with partisan bullshit
I think this is a fair position. Republicans hate the government so they try and sabotage it, liberals love the government because they get rich off it but don’t really care if things go wrong.
We can’t change this overnight but if we all start supporting better candidates, we can fix it.
You mean the ones NOT taking money from the Medical Mafia and Big Pharma??
Good luck with that.
You could get me to support a M4A of you created real, market-based competition to drive down pricing.
As we? covered, good luck with that.
Healthcare is an inelastic good. Your market forces mumbo jumbo doesn’t work. This is a fact and it is beyond dispute.
This is how we? know you aren't a deep thinker.
The only part of medicine that is truly inelastic is actual emergency services - heart attack, stroke, snapped a leg in half or otherwise maimed yourself.
ALL the rest of it should work like any other technology that gets cheaper over tim. Like the 80" flat screen on your wall.
But it doesn't.
Why? Because the Medical Mafia and Big Pharma spend BILLIONS lobbying congress every year to create rules ensuring payments and effectuating an artificial monopoly over the market.
Econ 101 - Monopolies only benefit suppliers. Really entry level concept here. One AOC and Bernie seem intent on failing to grasp.
Trump forced hospitals to disclose the cost of care up front. A straight up WIN for the little guy. But since orangeman bad, really super bad, neither you or the MSM paid an ounce of attention to that win for the plebiscite.
Things that have gotten substantially cheaper -Lasik eye surgery, breast implants, tummy tucks. None involving the government or insurance. All subject to a lot of advertising which indicates strong competition. Trump started a competitive push. We just need to finish it. When you see advertisement for hip replacement surgeries and the cost you will know it is getting cheaper. Starting to see a little of it with testosterone treatments and ED meds. Need to get everyone on high deductible HSA programs and self-funded HSAs. When you are using other people's money, you don't care about the cost. You do if it is your money.
Yeah, it’s almost like elective surgery and healthcare are two separate things.
So far you guys have compared chemo therapy to flat screen TVs and tummy tucks. Stop, it embarrassing.
What is embarrassing is that they both are medicine so why has one dropped in price while having huge leaps in effectiveness. I know you leftards have no ability to wonder about things, just say stupid things and feels. What doesn't make it cheaper is offering "free" medical care to illegal aliens.
What doesn’t make it cheaper is that people don’t give a shit what the price is when it’s healthcare. Literally all the data, all the studies show this. That’s why every single example you have is tummy tucks and flat screen TVs.
This is an example of you guys destroy left wing arguments.
Me “we should do Medicare for all”
You “at what cost?”
Me “well studies show it would be about the same as what we currently pay for healthcare. Some show a little less, some show a little more.”
You “yeah but at what cost???”
Destroyed.
I’m all for Medicare for All. The problem I have with it is I know damn well our government will fuck it up with partisan bullshit
I think this is a fair position. Republicans hate the government so they try and sabotage it, liberals love the government because they get rich off it but don’t really care if things go wrong.
We can’t change this overnight but if we all start supporting better candidates, we can fix it.
You mean the ones NOT taking money from the Medical Mafia and Big Pharma??
Good luck with that.
You could get me to support a M4A of you created real, market-based competition to drive down pricing.
As we? covered, good luck with that.
Healthcare is an inelastic good. Your market forces mumbo jumbo doesn’t work. This is a fact and it is beyond dispute.
This is how we? know you aren't a deep thinker.
The only part of medicine that is truly inelastic is actual emergency services - heart attack, stroke, snapped a leg in half or otherwise maimed yourself.
ALL the rest of it should work like any other technology that gets cheaper over tim. Like the 80" flat screen on your wall.
But it doesn't.
Why? Because the Medical Mafia and Big Pharma spend BILLIONS lobbying congress every year to create rules ensuring payments and effectuating an artificial monopoly over the market.
Econ 101 - Monopolies only benefit suppliers. Really entry level concept here. One AOC and Bernie seem intent on failing to grasp.
Trump forced hospitals to disclose the cost of care up front. A straight up WIN for the little guy. But since orangeman bad, really super bad, neither you or the MSM paid an ounce of attention to that win for the plebiscite.
Things that have gotten substantially cheaper -Lasik eye surgery, breast implants, tummy tucks. None involving the government or insurance. All subject to a lot of advertising which indicates strong competition. Trump started a competitive push. We just need to finish it. When you see advertisement for hip replacement surgeries and the cost you will know it is getting cheaper. Starting to see a little of it with testosterone treatments and ED meds. Need to get everyone on high deductible HSA programs and self-funded HSAs. When you are using other people's money, you don't care about the cost. You do if it is your money.
Yeah, it’s almost like elective surgery and healthcare are two separate things.
So far you guys have compared chemo therapy to flat screen TVs and tummy tucks. Stop, it embarrassing.
Most surgeries that are performed are elective. It's not almost like you're a fucking moron, you are a fucking moron. Now tell how knee surgery and healthcare are two separate things dumbfuck?
Knee surgery, tummy tuck, I literally can’t tell the difference.
Both are elective surgeries dumbass.
Knee surgery, tummy tuck, I literally can’t tell the difference.
This is an example of you guys destroy left wing arguments.
Me “we should do Medicare for all”
You “at what cost?”
Me “well studies show it would be about the same as what we currently pay for healthcare. Some show a little less, some show a little more.”
You “yeah but at what cost???”
Destroyed.
I’m all for Medicare for All. The problem I have with it is I know damn well our government will fuck it up with partisan bullshit
I think this is a fair position. Republicans hate the government so they try and sabotage it, liberals love the government because they get rich off it but don’t really care if things go wrong.
We can’t change this overnight but if we all start supporting better candidates, we can fix it.
You mean the ones NOT taking money from the Medical Mafia and Big Pharma??
Good luck with that.
You could get me to support a M4A of you created real, market-based competition to drive down pricing.
As we? covered, good luck with that.
Healthcare is an inelastic good. Your market forces mumbo jumbo doesn’t work. This is a fact and it is beyond dispute.
This is how we? know you aren't a deep thinker.
The only part of medicine that is truly inelastic is actual emergency services - heart attack, stroke, snapped a leg in half or otherwise maimed yourself.
ALL the rest of it should work like any other technology that gets cheaper over tim. Like the 80" flat screen on your wall.
But it doesn't.
Why? Because the Medical Mafia and Big Pharma spend BILLIONS lobbying congress every year to create rules ensuring payments and effectuating an artificial monopoly over the market.
Econ 101 - Monopolies only benefit suppliers. Really entry level concept here. One AOC and Bernie seem intent on failing to grasp.
Trump forced hospitals to disclose the cost of care up front. A straight up WIN for the little guy. But since orangeman bad, really super bad, neither you or the MSM paid an ounce of attention to that win for the plebiscite.
Things that have gotten substantially cheaper -Lasik eye surgery, breast implants, tummy tucks. None involving the government or insurance. All subject to a lot of advertising which indicates strong competition. Trump started a competitive push. We just need to finish it. When you see advertisement for hip replacement surgeries and the cost you will know it is getting cheaper. Starting to see a little of it with testosterone treatments and ED meds. Need to get everyone on high deductible HSA programs and self-funded HSAs. When you are using other people's money, you don't care about the cost. You do if it is your money.
Yeah, it’s almost like elective surgery and healthcare are two separate things.
So far you guys have compared chemo therapy to flat screen TVs and tummy tucks. Stop, it embarrassing.
What is embarrassing is that they both are medicine so why has one dropped in price while having huge leaps in effectiveness. I know you leftards have no ability to wonder about things, just say stupid things and feels. What doesn't make it cheaper is offering "free" medical care to illegal aliens.
What doesn’t make it cheaper is that people don’t give a shit what the price is when it’s healthcare. Literally all the data, all the studies show this. That’s why every single example you have is tummy tucks and flat screen TVs.
Wait, what? People don’t care about the price of healthcare.
What in the fuck are you talking about? Guessing you’re still on mom and dad’s insurance.
A tummy tuck isn’t “healthcare,” you retard. Unreal how out of your depth you are here.
This is an example of you guys destroy left wing arguments.
Me “we should do Medicare for all”
You “at what cost?”
Me “well studies show it would be about the same as what we currently pay for healthcare. Some show a little less, some show a little more.”
You “yeah but at what cost???”
Destroyed.
I’m all for Medicare for All. The problem I have with it is I know damn well our government will fuck it up with partisan bullshit
I think this is a fair position. Republicans hate the government so they try and sabotage it, liberals love the government because they get rich off it but don’t really care if things go wrong.
We can’t change this overnight but if we all start supporting better candidates, we can fix it.
You mean the ones NOT taking money from the Medical Mafia and Big Pharma??
Good luck with that.
You could get me to support a M4A of you created real, market-based competition to drive down pricing.
As we? covered, good luck with that.
Healthcare is an inelastic good. Your market forces mumbo jumbo doesn’t work. This is a fact and it is beyond dispute.
This is how we? know you aren't a deep thinker.
The only part of medicine that is truly inelastic is actual emergency services - heart attack, stroke, snapped a leg in half or otherwise maimed yourself.
ALL the rest of it should work like any other technology that gets cheaper over tim. Like the 80" flat screen on your wall.
But it doesn't.
Why? Because the Medical Mafia and Big Pharma spend BILLIONS lobbying congress every year to create rules ensuring payments and effectuating an artificial monopoly over the market.
Econ 101 - Monopolies only benefit suppliers. Really entry level concept here. One AOC and Bernie seem intent on failing to grasp.
Trump forced hospitals to disclose the cost of care up front. A straight up WIN for the little guy. But since orangeman bad, really super bad, neither you or the MSM paid an ounce of attention to that win for the plebiscite.
Things that have gotten substantially cheaper -Lasik eye surgery, breast implants, tummy tucks. None involving the government or insurance. All subject to a lot of advertising which indicates strong competition. Trump started a competitive push. We just need to finish it. When you see advertisement for hip replacement surgeries and the cost you will know it is getting cheaper. Starting to see a little of it with testosterone treatments and ED meds. Need to get everyone on high deductible HSA programs and self-funded HSAs. When you are using other people's money, you don't care about the cost. You do if it is your money.
Yeah, it’s almost like elective surgery and healthcare are two separate things.
So far you guys have compared chemo therapy to flat screen TVs and tummy tucks. Stop, it embarrassing.
What is embarrassing is that they both are medicine so why has one dropped in price while having huge leaps in effectiveness. I know you leftards have no ability to wonder about things, just say stupid things and feels. What doesn't make it cheaper is offering "free" medical care to illegal aliens.
What doesn’t make it cheaper is that people don’t give a shit what the price is when it’s healthcare. Literally all the data, all the studies show this. That’s why every single example you have is tummy tucks and flat screen TVs.
Wait, what? People don’t care about the price of healthcare.
What in the fuck are you talking about? Guessing you’re still on mom and dad’s insurance.
A tummy tuck isn’t “healthcare,” you retard. Unreal how out of your depth you are here.
He doesn't know what the fuck he is talking about. He is complete fucking moron and a coward. You'll notice he makes no mention of Lasik surgery or the hundreds of different forms of cosmetic surgeries that are most certainly healthcare. A system that required people to pay for their healthcare out of their own pocket, and yes knee surgery is both and elective surgery and healthcare would see the same drop in prices that we see with Lasik surgery.
This is an example of you guys destroy left wing arguments.
Me “we should do Medicare for all”
You “at what cost?”
Me “well studies show it would be about the same as what we currently pay for healthcare. Some show a little less, some show a little more.”
You “yeah but at what cost???”
Destroyed.
I’m all for Medicare for All. The problem I have with it is I know damn well our government will fuck it up with partisan bullshit
I think this is a fair position. Republicans hate the government so they try and sabotage it, liberals love the government because they get rich off it but don’t really care if things go wrong.
We can’t change this overnight but if we all start supporting better candidates, we can fix it.
You mean the ones NOT taking money from the Medical Mafia and Big Pharma??
Good luck with that.
You could get me to support a M4A of you created real, market-based competition to drive down pricing.
As we? covered, good luck with that.
Healthcare is an inelastic good. Your market forces mumbo jumbo doesn’t work. This is a fact and it is beyond dispute.
This is how we? know you aren't a deep thinker.
The only part of medicine that is truly inelastic is actual emergency services - heart attack, stroke, snapped a leg in half or otherwise maimed yourself.
ALL the rest of it should work like any other technology that gets cheaper over tim. Like the 80" flat screen on your wall.
But it doesn't.
Why? Because the Medical Mafia and Big Pharma spend BILLIONS lobbying congress every year to create rules ensuring payments and effectuating an artificial monopoly over the market.
Econ 101 - Monopolies only benefit suppliers. Really entry level concept here. One AOC and Bernie seem intent on failing to grasp.
Trump forced hospitals to disclose the cost of care up front. A straight up WIN for the little guy. But since orangeman bad, really super bad, neither you or the MSM paid an ounce of attention to that win for the plebiscite.
Things that have gotten substantially cheaper -Lasik eye surgery, breast implants, tummy tucks. None involving the government or insurance. All subject to a lot of advertising which indicates strong competition. Trump started a competitive push. We just need to finish it. When you see advertisement for hip replacement surgeries and the cost you will know it is getting cheaper. Starting to see a little of it with testosterone treatments and ED meds. Need to get everyone on high deductible HSA programs and self-funded HSAs. When you are using other people's money, you don't care about the cost. You do if it is your money.
Yeah, it’s almost like elective surgery and healthcare are two separate things.
So far you guys have compared chemo therapy to flat screen TVs and tummy tucks. Stop, it embarrassing.
What is embarrassing is that they both are medicine so why has one dropped in price while having huge leaps in effectiveness. I know you leftards have no ability to wonder about things, just say stupid things and feels. What doesn't make it cheaper is offering "free" medical care to illegal aliens.
What doesn’t make it cheaper is that people don’t give a shit what the price is when it’s healthcare. Literally all the data, all the studies show this. That’s why every single example you have is tummy tucks and flat screen TVs.
Wait, what? People don’t care about the price of healthcare.
What in the fuck are you talking about? Guessing you’re still on mom and dad’s insurance.
A tummy tuck isn’t “healthcare,” you retard. Unreal how out of your depth you are here.
He doesn't know what the fuck he is talking about. He is complete fucking moron and a coward. You'll notice he makes no mention of Lasik surgery or the hundreds of different forms of cosmetic surgeries that are most certainly healthcare. A system that required people to pay for their healthcare out of their own pocket, and yes knee surgery is both and elective surgery and healthcare would see the same drop in prices that we see with Lasik surgery.
Yeah but “literally” every study says people don’t care about the price of healthcare. I can’t wrap my head around what he means.
Probably the dumbest claim I’ve seen on this board.
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Healthcare is an inelastic good. Your market forces mumbo jumbo doesn’t work. This is a fact and it is beyond dispute.
The only part of medicine that is truly inelastic is actual emergency services - heart attack, stroke, snapped a leg in half or otherwise maimed yourself.
ALL the rest of it should work like any other technology that gets cheaper over tim. Like the 80" flat screen on your wall.
But it doesn't.
Why? Because the Medical Mafia and Big Pharma spend BILLIONS lobbying congress every year to create rules ensuring payments and effectuating an artificial monopoly over the market.
Econ 101 - Monopolies only benefit suppliers. Really entry level concept here. One AOC and Bernie seem intent on failing to grasp.
Trump forced hospitals to disclose the cost of care up front. A straight up WIN for the little guy. But since orangeman bad, really super bad, neither you or the MSM paid an ounce of attention to that win for the plebiscite.
Good on Trump. Sometimes horrible people do good things.
""This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes," he said during a panel discussion at the University of Pennsylvania in October, 2013. "Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the 'stupidity of the American voter' or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical to getting the thing to pass.”
So far you guys have compared chemo therapy to flat screen TVs and tummy tucks. Stop, it embarrassing.
Both are elective surgeries dumbass.
One of my favorite Lib defenses when this came out years ago. He didn’t “work for the Obama administration” because he was on a federal contract that paid him $400,000 for a few months of work stuffing ObamaCare with handouts for donors instead of the $175,000ish he’d be capped at annually officially working as a federal employee.
Leftists can only thrive on the ignorance of their base.
What in the fuck are you talking about? Guessing you’re still on mom and dad’s insurance.
A tummy tuck isn’t “healthcare,” you retard. Unreal how out of your depth you are here.
Probably the dumbest claim I’ve seen on this board.