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Someone PM'd me asking my opinion of the Ted Cruz / Cancun thing

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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    So, just surrender, Middle. It’s best for everyone if you hand over your Property and all you’ve built to the Mob.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    “Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.

    It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
    Why even post such milquetoast? Advocating to go along to get along is the polar opposite of a principled stance.

    Admit it. You're a fence sitter because most issues are over your head and you just want to be comfortable all the time.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    Most every centrist I know is a fall-into-line Liberal on Election Day, after testing which way the wind is blowing.

    The most common refrain I hear from so-called "Centrists" is "I don't have time for all that stuff."

    So they vote the way their wife does so they aren't sleeping on the couch for the next 4 years.
  • Prestonluv
    Prestonluv Member Posts: 275

    Most every centrist I know is a fall-into-line Liberal on Election Day, after testing which way the wind is blowing.

    The most common refrain I hear from so-called "Centrists" is "I don't have time for all that stuff."

    So they vote the way their wife does so they aren't sleeping on the couch for the next 4 years.

    Most I know are libertarian like me and not really centrists.

    If they don't vote for independents or Ls, Most tend to vote for more Rs then Ds locally and are split on presidential elections.

    Most also vote for politicians with least amount of tenure
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    Turning DC into a military outpost is apparently “progress.” I just saw the walls and wires are up through summer because of “online chatter.”

    The FBI can sniff out six goobers in Michigan who were led into a kidnapping conspiracy of the the governor, but would have no clue if a coordinated army of tens of thousands of citizens attacked DC? Impossible.

    It’s such a stupid excuse, but then again, Rats are pushing it and their bootlickers just go along.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    Tequilla said:

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    “Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.

    It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
    When you’re starting position is signaling that the left is right and just with the words leveraged to talk about the center/left being effectively people stuck in the past ...

    Regardless of where you fall on the spectrum anybody that doesn’t at minimum value the opinions of others is already starting from a flawed starting point
    I don’t think progress is inherently good. Nor does wanting progress guarantee progress.

    That framing is generous and correct. If you’re taking issue with how it made you feel, that’s your issue. I think both the status quo and the past have value.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    “Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.

    It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
    The left wants to "progress".

    Bullshit. Standard Orewellian redefinition of terms.

    The leftists want to tear down the fundamental tenants of the democratic republic.

    Big difference between doing a little remodeling and burning classic architecture to the ground.



    Remind me which side stormed the capitol to overturn a fair democratic election?
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    “Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.

    It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
    Why even post such milquetoast? Advocating to go along to get along is the polar opposite of a principled stance.

    Admit it. You're a fence sitter because most issues are over your head and you just want to be comfortable all the time.
    I don’t even know what point you think you’re making. I’m a fucking socialist, fence sitter? Are you lost?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,512 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2021

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    “Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.

    It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
    The left wants to "progress".

    Bullshit. Standard Orewellian redefinition of terms.

    The leftists want to tear down the fundamental tenants of the democratic republic.

    Big difference between doing a little remodeling and burning classic architecture to the ground.



    Remind me which side stormed the capitol to overturn a fair democratic election?
    John Sullivan was a leftist.