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Someone PM'd me asking my opinion of the Ted Cruz / Cancun thing
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Though I could not have been clearer, I'm sorry that what I wrote confuses you so much.TheKobeStopper said:
I don’t even know what point you think you’re making. I’m a fucking socialist, fence sitter? Are you lost?TurdBomber said:
Why even post such milquetoast? Advocating to go along to get along is the polar opposite of a principled stance.TheKobeStopper said:“Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.
It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
Admit it. You're a fence sitter because most issues are over your head and you just want to be comfortable all the time.
You just cemented my point. Without realizing it, of course. -
And burned it to the ground? Oh, wait..TheKobeStopper said:
Remind me which side stormed the capitol to overturn a fair democratic election?PurpleThrobber said:
The left wants to "progress".TheKobeStopper said:
“Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.RoadDawg55 said:
The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.Prestonluv said:We need to be an issue based political society
This right left shit is out of hand.
Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
AOC is a corrupt POS
Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
Trump is a narcissist
Biden doesn't remember yesterday
I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us
It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
Bullshit. Standard Orewellian redefinition of terms.
The leftists want to tear down the fundamental tenants of the democratic republic.
Big difference between doing a little remodeling and burning classic architecture to the ground. -
Save it. You're not in the demographic of seemingly intelligent people.Bendintheriver said:
This isn't a right or left thing. This is one side trying to take away rights. The left literally has supported more violence by their silence than I have ever seen in my life. FFS they are trying now to erase history. Destroy statues, eliminate names on schools, federal buildings, etc. Erase the history of men and women who made sacrifices for our country. They are teaching our children that the color of their skin makes them racist. Can anyone believe that? This week the left proposed a bill that will fundamentally change our country forever. The reason they are doing it? They believe if they give 15 million illegals the vote, the "right" will never win another election. The bill to take away a persons right to own firearms is already in the works. One side is wiretapping campaign HQ's and getting away with it. Colluding with Russians and then trying to impeach a President who DIDN'T collude with Russian's. The left literally attempted twice to take away the votes of 70 million people without any cause whatsoever. We just elected a man who is tied to so much corruption and is a proven liar its unbelievable that he was even allowed to run for the office. There will be no special prosecutor because it is the left's guy.RoadDawg55 said:
The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.Prestonluv said:We need to be an issue based political society
This right left shit is out of hand.
Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
AOC is a corrupt POS
Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
Trump is a narcissist
Biden doesn't remember yesterday
I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us
This is not a left or right thing. This is a fight for our rights. A fight to have the right to make an impact with a vote and not have the violent minority rule over the majority. A fight to recognize that this country has done more good for the world than any other in history, not the racist cesspool the left is telling the world it is. -
Like I said previously, you Libs are in over your heads most of the time.HustlinOwl said:
Save it. You're not in the demographic of seemingly intelligent people.Bendintheriver said:
This isn't a right or left thing. This is one side trying to take away rights. The left literally has supported more violence by their silence than I have ever seen in my life. FFS they are trying now to erase history. Destroy statues, eliminate names on schools, federal buildings, etc. Erase the history of men and women who made sacrifices for our country. They are teaching our children that the color of their skin makes them racist. Can anyone believe that? This week the left proposed a bill that will fundamentally change our country forever. The reason they are doing it? They believe if they give 15 million illegals the vote, the "right" will never win another election. The bill to take away a persons right to own firearms is already in the works. One side is wiretapping campaign HQ's and getting away with it. Colluding with Russians and then trying to impeach a President who DIDN'T collude with Russian's. The left literally attempted twice to take away the votes of 70 million people without any cause whatsoever. We just elected a man who is tied to so much corruption and is a proven liar its unbelievable that he was even allowed to run for the office. There will be no special prosecutor because it is the left's guy.RoadDawg55 said:
The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.Prestonluv said:We need to be an issue based political society
This right left shit is out of hand.
Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
AOC is a corrupt POS
Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
Trump is a narcissist
Biden doesn't remember yesterday
I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us
This is not a left or right thing. This is a fight for our rights. A fight to have the right to make an impact with a vote and not have the violent minority rule over the majority. A fight to recognize that this country has done more good for the world than any other in history, not the racist cesspool the left is telling the world it is.
So you vote like the TV says, because forming your own coherent opinions, is, well, never gonna happen. -
I have not heard a good argument for not making college tuition free. If it’s going to be some shit about not being fair to people that already paid, don’t waste our time.Tequilla said:
Healthcare is complicated for a number of reasons so I’m not that interested in getting into it nowTheKobeStopper said:
Framing can do a lot of work.creepycoug said:
Yes. I like my status quo. I worked for it. And it’s pretty good. It’s a reasonable compromise to run an ordered society.TheKobeStopper said:
“Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.RoadDawg55 said:
The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.Prestonluv said:We need to be an issue based political society
This right left shit is out of hand.
Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
AOC is a corrupt POS
Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
Trump is a narcissist
Biden doesn't remember yesterday
I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us
It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
It ain’t even gonna be perfect man. I pay a shit load of taxes and have for a good long while, much of it for purposes of helping others. Happy to do it but at some point it’s too much.
See I could say, you want society ordered the way it is, I want socialism, let’s compromise and do universal healthcare and free college.
Why aren’t you willing to do that? I thought you liked compromise? Why are you being such an ideologue? Every other developed country has a form of universal healthcare, why are you so extreme?
I voted for Biden, come on man. This whole “you won’t compromise, you’re demanding a perfect world” schtick only pushes people like me away.
That said, can you understand why there are people that are at least not fully supportive of continuing education past the the high school level?
There’s always nuance between none and all -
"I have not heard a good argument for not making college tuition free. If it’s going to be some shit about not being fair to people that already paid, don’t waste our time."
How about we can't afford it and college is less than worthless for most students. You being the poster boy for idiocy. -
No offense BItR, but why not try and engage CC on an intellectual level? Perhaps his short response wasn't as open to discussion as it could have been but calling him an asshole pretty much closes down a discussuon which IMO needs to happen in this country.Bendintheriver said:
Wrong again asshole. When the mid terms come, many who voted for that idiot biden because they didn't like Trumps tweets will put Reps back in charge of the House and Senate. They will recognize the fucked up fascism they enabled with their vote for that idiot biden and right the ship. BO crossed lines, Clinton, Reagan, Bush 1. The far left has already alienated 1000's on the center left. When they force the open borders on the country they will lose the rest of the moderate left. If they get the higher taxes, watch out. You think only R's hunt? Start taking away their rights on guns and I will show you a bunch of D hunters here in the South who will never vote for a rat again. You ;must believe that every democrat on campus at UofW believes in the erasure of George Washington's reference on campus, in the schools name and the State itself. You would be wrong.creepycoug said:
So, it is a right or left thing.Bendintheriver said:
This isn't a right or left thing. This is one side trying to take away rights. The left literally has supported more violence by their silence than I have ever seen in my life. FFS they are trying now to erase history. Destroy statues, eliminate names on schools, federal buildings, etc. Erase the history of men and women who made sacrifices for our country. They are teaching our children that the color of their skin makes them racist. Can anyone believe that? This week the left proposed a bill that will fundamentally change our country forever. The reason they are doing it? They believe if they give 15 million illegals the vote, the "right" will never win another election. The bill to take away a persons right to own firearms is already in the works. One side is wiretapping campaign HQ's and getting away with it. Colluding with Russians and then trying to impeach a President who DIDN'T collude with Russian's. The left literally attempted twice to take away the votes of 70 million people without any cause whatsoever. We just elected a man who is tied to so much corruption and is a proven liar its unbelievable that he was even allowed to run for the office. There will be no special prosecutor because it is the left's guy.RoadDawg55 said:
The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.Prestonluv said:We need to be an issue based political society
This right left shit is out of hand.
Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
AOC is a corrupt POS
Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
Trump is a narcissist
Biden doesn't remember yesterday
I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us
This is not a left or right thing. This is a fight for our rights. A fight to have the right to make an impact with a vote and not have the violent minority rule over the majority. A fight to recognize that this country has done more good for the world than any other in history, not the racist cesspool the left is telling the world it is.
As I said before, this is a freedom thing. The socialists will wear their welcome out real quick, we might even see Reagan type numbers in the next election which screams that this is not a right or left thing. It is a fight against those far left who are attempting to take away rights and erase everything that makes their vag hurt and it is affecting those on both sides who will react accordingly. -
We absolutely can afford it. I’m not even going to address the fascist argument that education is worthless.WestlinnDuck said:"I have not heard a good argument for not making college tuition free. If it’s going to be some shit about not being fair to people that already paid, don’t waste our time."
How about we can't afford it and college is less than worthless for most students. You being the poster boy for idiocy. -
Because it isn’t free, and if idiots like you are a product of the current university system, you’re not getting a dime from me to pay for brainwashed idiots like you “studying” Liberal Arts and going $200,000 in debt for it.TheKobeStopper said:
I have not heard a good argument for not making college tuition free. If it’s going to be some shit about not being fair to people that already paid, don’t waste our time.Tequilla said:
Healthcare is complicated for a number of reasons so I’m not that interested in getting into it nowTheKobeStopper said:
Framing can do a lot of work.creepycoug said:
Yes. I like my status quo. I worked for it. And it’s pretty good. It’s a reasonable compromise to run an ordered society.TheKobeStopper said:
“Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.RoadDawg55 said:
The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.Prestonluv said:We need to be an issue based political society
This right left shit is out of hand.
Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
AOC is a corrupt POS
Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
Trump is a narcissist
Biden doesn't remember yesterday
I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us
It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
It ain’t even gonna be perfect man. I pay a shit load of taxes and have for a good long while, much of it for purposes of helping others. Happy to do it but at some point it’s too much.
See I could say, you want society ordered the way it is, I want socialism, let’s compromise and do universal healthcare and free college.
Why aren’t you willing to do that? I thought you liked compromise? Why are you being such an ideologue? Every other developed country has a form of universal healthcare, why are you so extreme?
I voted for Biden, come on man. This whole “you won’t compromise, you’re demanding a perfect world” schtick only pushes people like me away.
That said, can you understand why there are people that are at least not fully supportive of continuing education past the the high school level?
There’s always nuance between none and all
Anyhow, Biden said last week there will be no student debt relief. Take it up with him, guy. -
I have not heard a good argument for not making housing free - one in Costa Rica, please. Don't bother me with some shit about not being fair to people that already paid, don't waste our time.TheKobeStopper said:
I have not heard a good argument for not making college tuition free. If it’s going to be some shit about not being fair to people that already paid, don’t waste our time.Tequilla said:
Healthcare is complicated for a number of reasons so I’m not that interested in getting into it nowTheKobeStopper said:
Framing can do a lot of work.creepycoug said:
Yes. I like my status quo. I worked for it. And it’s pretty good. It’s a reasonable compromise to run an ordered society.TheKobeStopper said:
“Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.RoadDawg55 said:
The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.Prestonluv said:We need to be an issue based political society
This right left shit is out of hand.
Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
AOC is a corrupt POS
Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
Trump is a narcissist
Biden doesn't remember yesterday
I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us
It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
It ain’t even gonna be perfect man. I pay a shit load of taxes and have for a good long while, much of it for purposes of helping others. Happy to do it but at some point it’s too much.
See I could say, you want society ordered the way it is, I want socialism, let’s compromise and do universal healthcare and free college.
Why aren’t you willing to do that? I thought you liked compromise? Why are you being such an ideologue? Every other developed country has a form of universal healthcare, why are you so extreme?
I voted for Biden, come on man. This whole “you won’t compromise, you’re demanding a perfect world” schtick only pushes people like me away.
That said, can you understand why there are people that are at least not fully supportive of continuing education past the the high school level?
There’s always nuance between none and all
I want hookers and blow every Thursday. Don't bother me with some shit about not being fair to people that already paid, don't waste our time.
I want filet mignon not that shitty sirloin. Don't bother me with some shit about not being fair to people that already paid, don't waste our time.
