Biden: Chinese genocide of Uhgyurs is because ““culturally there are different norms”
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BUT TRUMPGreenRiverGatorz said:THE PRESIDENT: We must speak up for human rights. It’s who we are. We can’t — my comment to him was — and I know him well, and he knows me well. We’re — a two-hour conversation.
MR. COOPER: You talked about this to him?
THE PRESIDENT: I talked about this, too. And that’s not so much refugee, but I talked about — I said — look, you know, Chinese leaders — if you know anything about Chinese history, it has always been — the time when China has been victimized by the outer world is when they haven’t been unified at home. So the central — to vastly overstate it — the central principle of Xi Jinping is that there must be a united, tightly controlled China. And he uses his rationale for the things he does based on that.
I point out to him: No American President can be sustained as a President if he doesn’t reflect the values of the United States. And so the idea I’m not going to speak out against what he’s doing in Hong Kong, what he’s doing with the Uyghurs in western mountains of China and Taiwan, trying to end the One China policy by making it forceful — I said — and by the — he said he — he gets it. Culturally, there are different norms that each country and they — their leaders — are expected to follow.
But my point was that when I came back from meeting with him and traveling 17,000 miles with him when I was vice president and he was the vice president — that’s how I got to know him so well, at the request of President Hu — not a joke — his predecessor, President Hu — and President Obama wanted us to get to know one another because he was going to be the president.
And I came back and said they’re going to end their One China — their one child policy, because they’re so xenophobic, they won’t let anybody else in, and more people are retired than working. How can they sustain economic growth when more people are retired?
MR. COOPER: When you talk to him, though, about human rights abuses, is that just — is that as far as it goes in terms of the U.S.? Or is there any actual repercussions for China?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, there will be repercussions for China, and he knows that. What I’m doing is making clear that we, in fact, are going to continue to reassert our role as spokespersons for human rights at the U.N. and other — other agencies that have an impact on their attitude.
China is trying very hard to become the world leader and to get that moniker. And to be able to do that, they have to gain the confidence of other countries. And as long as they’re engaged in activity that is contrary to basic human rights, it’s going to be hard for them to do that.
But it’s much more complicated than that. I’m — I shouldn’t have tried to talk China policy in 10 minutes on television here.
Full text since this tweet that cuts him off mid-sentence is a shitty bit to draw actual conclusions from.
But frankly this is Trump levels of rambling. And it's a pretty sackless stance against what is damn near Nazi levels of human rights abuse. So once again we are pussy-footing around China and showing our hand - which is empty. We're not going to do shit while an ethnic minority is systematically raped, sterilized, and persecuted by a world superpower.
Who called out China on the bullshit but still can't criticize Joe without some Trump thrown in -
Found a supporter of Chi Com policy and a Biden voterDuckwithabone said:
If I was unemployed and lived in my basement I could probably be on this site as often and muster just as much false righteous outrage as you. But some of us have to keep this country running while 40% sit on the internet getting angry all day. Take a walk for perspective, and maybe a little exercise.NorthwestFresh said:Zero Biden Leftists tonight even trying to defend Biden’s completely unacceptable words on the CCP killing and raping people because of their religion.
None. Where to go from here, @HHusky? Not Trump doesn’t immediately denounce the genocide and rape victims of Muslims.
The best part for H is that if one of the Muslims gets pregnant, she gets a forced abortion.
Biden’s America. -
So much nonsense my ADD couldn’t keep upGreenRiverGatorz said:THE PRESIDENT: We must speak up for human rights. It’s who we are. We can’t — my comment to him was — and I know him well, and he knows me well. We’re — a two-hour conversation.
MR. COOPER: You talked about this to him?
THE PRESIDENT: I talked about this, too. And that’s not so much refugee, but I talked about — I said — look, you know, Chinese leaders — if you know anything about Chinese history, it has always been — the time when China has been victimized by the outer world is when they haven’t been unified at home. So the central — to vastly overstate it — the central principle of Xi Jinping is that there must be a united, tightly controlled China. And he uses his rationale for the things he does based on that.
I point out to him: No American President can be sustained as a President if he doesn’t reflect the values of the United States. And so the idea I’m not going to speak out against what he’s doing in Hong Kong, what he’s doing with the Uyghurs in western mountains of China and Taiwan, trying to end the One China policy by making it forceful — I said — and by the — he said he — he gets it. Culturally, there are different norms that each country and they — their leaders — are expected to follow.
But my point was that when I came back from meeting with him and traveling 17,000 miles with him when I was vice president and he was the vice president — that’s how I got to know him so well, at the request of President Hu — not a joke — his predecessor, President Hu — and President Obama wanted us to get to know one another because he was going to be the president.
And I came back and said they’re going to end their One China — their one child policy, because they’re so xenophobic, they won’t let anybody else in, and more people are retired than working. How can they sustain economic growth when more people are retired?
MR. COOPER: When you talk to him, though, about human rights abuses, is that just — is that as far as it goes in terms of the U.S.? Or is there any actual repercussions for China?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, there will be repercussions for China, and he knows that. What I’m doing is making clear that we, in fact, are going to continue to reassert our role as spokespersons for human rights at the U.N. and other — other agencies that have an impact on their attitude.
China is trying very hard to become the world leader and to get that moniker. And to be able to do that, they have to gain the confidence of other countries. And as long as they’re engaged in activity that is contrary to basic human rights, it’s going to be hard for them to do that.
But it’s much more complicated than that. I’m — I shouldn’t have tried to talk China policy in 10 minutes on television here.
Full text since this tweet that cuts him off mid-sentence is a shitty bit to draw actual conclusions from.
But frankly this is Trump levels of rambling. And it's a pretty sackless stance against what is damn near Nazi levels of human rights abuse. So once again we are pussy-footing around China and showing our hand - which is empty. We're not going to do shit while an ethnic minority is systematically raped, sterilized, and persecuted by a world superpower. -
@ToddTurnerDawg???? True?!?!?Duckwithabone said:
If I was unemployed and lived in my basement I could probably be on this site as often and muster just as much false righteous outrage as you. But some of us have to keep this country running while 40% sit on the internet getting angry all day. Take a walk for perspective, and maybe a little exercise.NorthwestFresh said:Zero Biden Leftists tonight even trying to defend Biden’s completely unacceptable words on the CCP killing and raping people because of their religion.
None. Where to go from here, @HHusky? Not Trump doesn’t immediately denounce the genocide and rape victims of Muslims.
The best part for H is that if one of the Muslims gets pregnant, she gets a forced abortion.
Biden’s America.
It might shock you that most of the voices you oppose on here make a shit ton of money -
As someone in active recovery of TDS (and AIDS) you'll have to forgive me for the occasional slip of his name. Cold turkey is never 100% effective. The point is that Biden is now in and it looks like more of the same virtue signaling bullshit when it comes to being the "protector of human rights" or whatever other self-righteous bullshit we like to delude ourselves with.RaceBannon said:
BUT TRUMPGreenRiverGatorz said:THE PRESIDENT: We must speak up for human rights. It’s who we are. We can’t — my comment to him was — and I know him well, and he knows me well. We’re — a two-hour conversation.
MR. COOPER: You talked about this to him?
THE PRESIDENT: I talked about this, too. And that’s not so much refugee, but I talked about — I said — look, you know, Chinese leaders — if you know anything about Chinese history, it has always been — the time when China has been victimized by the outer world is when they haven’t been unified at home. So the central — to vastly overstate it — the central principle of Xi Jinping is that there must be a united, tightly controlled China. And he uses his rationale for the things he does based on that.
I point out to him: No American President can be sustained as a President if he doesn’t reflect the values of the United States. And so the idea I’m not going to speak out against what he’s doing in Hong Kong, what he’s doing with the Uyghurs in western mountains of China and Taiwan, trying to end the One China policy by making it forceful — I said — and by the — he said he — he gets it. Culturally, there are different norms that each country and they — their leaders — are expected to follow.
But my point was that when I came back from meeting with him and traveling 17,000 miles with him when I was vice president and he was the vice president — that’s how I got to know him so well, at the request of President Hu — not a joke — his predecessor, President Hu — and President Obama wanted us to get to know one another because he was going to be the president.
And I came back and said they’re going to end their One China — their one child policy, because they’re so xenophobic, they won’t let anybody else in, and more people are retired than working. How can they sustain economic growth when more people are retired?
MR. COOPER: When you talk to him, though, about human rights abuses, is that just — is that as far as it goes in terms of the U.S.? Or is there any actual repercussions for China?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, there will be repercussions for China, and he knows that. What I’m doing is making clear that we, in fact, are going to continue to reassert our role as spokespersons for human rights at the U.N. and other — other agencies that have an impact on their attitude.
China is trying very hard to become the world leader and to get that moniker. And to be able to do that, they have to gain the confidence of other countries. And as long as they’re engaged in activity that is contrary to basic human rights, it’s going to be hard for them to do that.
But it’s much more complicated than that. I’m — I shouldn’t have tried to talk China policy in 10 minutes on television here.
Full text since this tweet that cuts him off mid-sentence is a shitty bit to draw actual conclusions from.
But frankly this is Trump levels of rambling. And it's a pretty sackless stance against what is damn near Nazi levels of human rights abuse. So once again we are pussy-footing around China and showing our hand - which is empty. We're not going to do shit while an ethnic minority is systematically raped, sterilized, and persecuted by a world superpower.
Who called out China on the bullshit but still can't criticize Joe without some Trump thrown in
Lather, rinse, repeat. -
Trump actually took action against China and if you are concerned then you did not vote wisely.GreenRiverGatorz said:
As someone in active recovery of TDS (and AIDS) you'll have to forgive me for the occasional slip of his name. Cold turkey is never 100% effective. The point is that Biden is now in and it looks like more of the same virtue signaling bullshit when it comes to being the "protector of human rights" or whatever other self-righteous bullshit we like to delude ourselves with.RaceBannon said:
BUT TRUMPGreenRiverGatorz said:THE PRESIDENT: We must speak up for human rights. It’s who we are. We can’t — my comment to him was — and I know him well, and he knows me well. We’re — a two-hour conversation.
MR. COOPER: You talked about this to him?
THE PRESIDENT: I talked about this, too. And that’s not so much refugee, but I talked about — I said — look, you know, Chinese leaders — if you know anything about Chinese history, it has always been — the time when China has been victimized by the outer world is when they haven’t been unified at home. So the central — to vastly overstate it — the central principle of Xi Jinping is that there must be a united, tightly controlled China. And he uses his rationale for the things he does based on that.
I point out to him: No American President can be sustained as a President if he doesn’t reflect the values of the United States. And so the idea I’m not going to speak out against what he’s doing in Hong Kong, what he’s doing with the Uyghurs in western mountains of China and Taiwan, trying to end the One China policy by making it forceful — I said — and by the — he said he — he gets it. Culturally, there are different norms that each country and they — their leaders — are expected to follow.
But my point was that when I came back from meeting with him and traveling 17,000 miles with him when I was vice president and he was the vice president — that’s how I got to know him so well, at the request of President Hu — not a joke — his predecessor, President Hu — and President Obama wanted us to get to know one another because he was going to be the president.
And I came back and said they’re going to end their One China — their one child policy, because they’re so xenophobic, they won’t let anybody else in, and more people are retired than working. How can they sustain economic growth when more people are retired?
MR. COOPER: When you talk to him, though, about human rights abuses, is that just — is that as far as it goes in terms of the U.S.? Or is there any actual repercussions for China?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, there will be repercussions for China, and he knows that. What I’m doing is making clear that we, in fact, are going to continue to reassert our role as spokespersons for human rights at the U.N. and other — other agencies that have an impact on their attitude.
China is trying very hard to become the world leader and to get that moniker. And to be able to do that, they have to gain the confidence of other countries. And as long as they’re engaged in activity that is contrary to basic human rights, it’s going to be hard for them to do that.
But it’s much more complicated than that. I’m — I shouldn’t have tried to talk China policy in 10 minutes on television here.
Full text since this tweet that cuts him off mid-sentence is a shitty bit to draw actual conclusions from.
But frankly this is Trump levels of rambling. And it's a pretty sackless stance against what is damn near Nazi levels of human rights abuse. So once again we are pussy-footing around China and showing our hand - which is empty. We're not going to do shit while an ethnic minority is systematically raped, sterilized, and persecuted by a world superpower.
Who called out China on the bullshit but still can't criticize Joe without some Trump thrown in
Lather, rinse, repeat.
There is nothing equivalent about the treatment of China by Trump and by China's lackey Biden.
And Biden is president now. -
Are you talking about this?RaceBannon said:
Trump actually took action against China and if you are concerned then you did not vote wisely.GreenRiverGatorz said:
As someone in active recovery of TDS (and AIDS) you'll have to forgive me for the occasional slip of his name. Cold turkey is never 100% effective. The point is that Biden is now in and it looks like more of the same virtue signaling bullshit when it comes to being the "protector of human rights" or whatever other self-righteous bullshit we like to delude ourselves with.RaceBannon said:
BUT TRUMPGreenRiverGatorz said:THE PRESIDENT: We must speak up for human rights. It’s who we are. We can’t — my comment to him was — and I know him well, and he knows me well. We’re — a two-hour conversation.
MR. COOPER: You talked about this to him?
THE PRESIDENT: I talked about this, too. And that’s not so much refugee, but I talked about — I said — look, you know, Chinese leaders — if you know anything about Chinese history, it has always been — the time when China has been victimized by the outer world is when they haven’t been unified at home. So the central — to vastly overstate it — the central principle of Xi Jinping is that there must be a united, tightly controlled China. And he uses his rationale for the things he does based on that.
I point out to him: No American President can be sustained as a President if he doesn’t reflect the values of the United States. And so the idea I’m not going to speak out against what he’s doing in Hong Kong, what he’s doing with the Uyghurs in western mountains of China and Taiwan, trying to end the One China policy by making it forceful — I said — and by the — he said he — he gets it. Culturally, there are different norms that each country and they — their leaders — are expected to follow.
But my point was that when I came back from meeting with him and traveling 17,000 miles with him when I was vice president and he was the vice president — that’s how I got to know him so well, at the request of President Hu — not a joke — his predecessor, President Hu — and President Obama wanted us to get to know one another because he was going to be the president.
And I came back and said they’re going to end their One China — their one child policy, because they’re so xenophobic, they won’t let anybody else in, and more people are retired than working. How can they sustain economic growth when more people are retired?
MR. COOPER: When you talk to him, though, about human rights abuses, is that just — is that as far as it goes in terms of the U.S.? Or is there any actual repercussions for China?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, there will be repercussions for China, and he knows that. What I’m doing is making clear that we, in fact, are going to continue to reassert our role as spokespersons for human rights at the U.N. and other — other agencies that have an impact on their attitude.
China is trying very hard to become the world leader and to get that moniker. And to be able to do that, they have to gain the confidence of other countries. And as long as they’re engaged in activity that is contrary to basic human rights, it’s going to be hard for them to do that.
But it’s much more complicated than that. I’m — I shouldn’t have tried to talk China policy in 10 minutes on television here.
Full text since this tweet that cuts him off mid-sentence is a shitty bit to draw actual conclusions from.
But frankly this is Trump levels of rambling. And it's a pretty sackless stance against what is damn near Nazi levels of human rights abuse. So once again we are pussy-footing around China and showing our hand - which is empty. We're not going to do shit while an ethnic minority is systematically raped, sterilized, and persecuted by a world superpower.
Who called out China on the bullshit but still can't criticize Joe without some Trump thrown in
Lather, rinse, repeat.
There is nothing equivalent about the treatment of China by Trump and by China's lackey Biden.
And Biden is president now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_Human_Rights_Policy_Act
Or is there something else Trump did that actually combatted the Uyghur genocide? -
Biden is president now
If you don't know how Trump challenged China and have forgotten the response from the American sell out the country team then it really doesn't matter now does it?
China got their guy in -
You could've just said no.RaceBannon said:Biden is president now
If you don't know how Trump challenged China and have forgotten the response from the American sell out the country team then it really doesn't matter now does it?
China got their guy in
So we're on the same page. Joe is the new useless figurehead who won't actually do shit about China. I look forward to our next four years of unified criticism. -
Trump wasn't useless and its OK to say Joe is owned by China all on its own
I voted for the guy that was actively working against China. You voted for their lackey so I don't see any agreement here at all
Live with your decision
