Kristi Noem: How the GOP failed the nation
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You got the president you deserveTequilla said:
1) My comment was 81% a zing to Grandpappy Race who uses that logic often when it comes to UW Football, etcPurpleThrobber said:
You know I love me some zone playing 3 point jackers but... Trump was the head of the GOP just as much as you played in the Final Four.Tequilla said:
Trump was the head of the GOP ...RaceBannon said:
The GOP was worthless to TrumpTequilla said:I have no issues with Noem ... would like to see her on a big stage to see how she does
That said, you can’t on one hand say that Republicans dropped the ball because they need to do a better job of what they say they are going to do (and she named examples) and then on the other hand say Trump is going to go down and judged as one of the best Presidents in history because of what he accomplished
It just comes off as playing both sides ...
I think her first response is correct and the better talking point ... President Trump accomplished a lot (name a couple) but as Republicans we failed to provide a replacement for Obamacare, drive comprehensive immigration reform, etc ... and note that as Republicans we want to be judged on our actions/results and how much they match our words ... that’s a winning message
In 1 week in the White House you can find countless examples of Biden playing the pay attention to what I say not what I do card
She's right you're not
You know how you like to talk about all accountability starts and ends at the top of the food chain?
He caught those dipshits playing footsie across the aisle and asleep at the wheel. They were just as arrogant as the @DNC and by the time they figured out that he was going to be their nominee, they had to come along to go along.
Now that he's gone the Romeny/McConnells of the world are back to their old uniparty bullshit. Except now people are pissed and they are taking it out on the GOP.
If anything Trump is NOW the head of the GOP because he'll go in and primary damned near any of them. He'll give no fucks. Those 10 GOP clowns who voted for impeachment - they're toast. wellbye.gif to Liz Cheney and her ilk.
Mitt better find a spot in Biden's world because Trump is coming for him next.
2) I don’t disagree with you that those that held their nose with Trump now have a runway to distance themselves
I’ll just say this ... Trump’s brought certain things to the forefront that has exposed some of the lies and hypocrisy within Government ... the fact that the media has gone full propaganda since 2016 and not even trying to hide it is telling.
That said, Trump’s “brand” isn’t going to resonate enough to ever again get a win nationally because too many people in the middle won’t vote for him on principle (mean Orange man). Sure, that can work in some regions and locations but it’s just going to ensure a vocal minority.
Finding the balance between what has worked well while rebuilding the connection with those more moderate/centralized on the spectrum is required to beat the Democrats going forward. It’s basic math.
Biden is a centrist moderate
Why bother beating the democrats by being like them and chasing their narratives
GOP Scoducks -
I don’t endorse Biden in any manner ... I don’t expect the history books to look back on this Presidency fondlyRaceBannon said:
You got the president you deserveTequilla said:
1) My comment was 81% a zing to Grandpappy Race who uses that logic often when it comes to UW Football, etcPurpleThrobber said:
You know I love me some zone playing 3 point jackers but... Trump was the head of the GOP just as much as you played in the Final Four.Tequilla said:
Trump was the head of the GOP ...RaceBannon said:
The GOP was worthless to TrumpTequilla said:I have no issues with Noem ... would like to see her on a big stage to see how she does
That said, you can’t on one hand say that Republicans dropped the ball because they need to do a better job of what they say they are going to do (and she named examples) and then on the other hand say Trump is going to go down and judged as one of the best Presidents in history because of what he accomplished
It just comes off as playing both sides ...
I think her first response is correct and the better talking point ... President Trump accomplished a lot (name a couple) but as Republicans we failed to provide a replacement for Obamacare, drive comprehensive immigration reform, etc ... and note that as Republicans we want to be judged on our actions/results and how much they match our words ... that’s a winning message
In 1 week in the White House you can find countless examples of Biden playing the pay attention to what I say not what I do card
She's right you're not
You know how you like to talk about all accountability starts and ends at the top of the food chain?
He caught those dipshits playing footsie across the aisle and asleep at the wheel. They were just as arrogant as the @DNC and by the time they figured out that he was going to be their nominee, they had to come along to go along.
Now that he's gone the Romeny/McConnells of the world are back to their old uniparty bullshit. Except now people are pissed and they are taking it out on the GOP.
If anything Trump is NOW the head of the GOP because he'll go in and primary damned near any of them. He'll give no fucks. Those 10 GOP clowns who voted for impeachment - they're toast. wellbye.gif to Liz Cheney and her ilk.
Mitt better find a spot in Biden's world because Trump is coming for him next.
2) I don’t disagree with you that those that held their nose with Trump now have a runway to distance themselves
I’ll just say this ... Trump’s brought certain things to the forefront that has exposed some of the lies and hypocrisy within Government ... the fact that the media has gone full propaganda since 2016 and not even trying to hide it is telling.
That said, Trump’s “brand” isn’t going to resonate enough to ever again get a win nationally because too many people in the middle won’t vote for him on principle (mean Orange man). Sure, that can work in some regions and locations but it’s just going to ensure a vocal minority.
Finding the balance between what has worked well while rebuilding the connection with those more moderate/centralized on the spectrum is required to beat the Democrats going forward. It’s basic math.
Biden is a centrist moderate
Why bother beating the democrats by being like them and chasing their narratives
GOP Scoducks
That said, anybody that doesn’t understand how Trump’s persona bit him in the ass I don’t know what to tell you
The concerning thing to me with most heavy Trump supporters that I see is a refusal to concede that Trump has his own warts ... it’s Trump’s perfect and fuck everybody else -
Biden sold himself as a centrist Democrat, and the media dutifully amplified that message.RaceBannon said:
You got the president you deserveTequilla said:
1) My comment was 81% a zing to Grandpappy Race who uses that logic often when it comes to UW Football, etcPurpleThrobber said:
You know I love me some zone playing 3 point jackers but... Trump was the head of the GOP just as much as you played in the Final Four.Tequilla said:
Trump was the head of the GOP ...RaceBannon said:
The GOP was worthless to TrumpTequilla said:I have no issues with Noem ... would like to see her on a big stage to see how she does
That said, you can’t on one hand say that Republicans dropped the ball because they need to do a better job of what they say they are going to do (and she named examples) and then on the other hand say Trump is going to go down and judged as one of the best Presidents in history because of what he accomplished
It just comes off as playing both sides ...
I think her first response is correct and the better talking point ... President Trump accomplished a lot (name a couple) but as Republicans we failed to provide a replacement for Obamacare, drive comprehensive immigration reform, etc ... and note that as Republicans we want to be judged on our actions/results and how much they match our words ... that’s a winning message
In 1 week in the White House you can find countless examples of Biden playing the pay attention to what I say not what I do card
She's right you're not
You know how you like to talk about all accountability starts and ends at the top of the food chain?
He caught those dipshits playing footsie across the aisle and asleep at the wheel. They were just as arrogant as the @DNC and by the time they figured out that he was going to be their nominee, they had to come along to go along.
Now that he's gone the Romeny/McConnells of the world are back to their old uniparty bullshit. Except now people are pissed and they are taking it out on the GOP.
If anything Trump is NOW the head of the GOP because he'll go in and primary damned near any of them. He'll give no fucks. Those 10 GOP clowns who voted for impeachment - they're toast. wellbye.gif to Liz Cheney and her ilk.
Mitt better find a spot in Biden's world because Trump is coming for him next.
2) I don’t disagree with you that those that held their nose with Trump now have a runway to distance themselves
I’ll just say this ... Trump’s brought certain things to the forefront that has exposed some of the lies and hypocrisy within Government ... the fact that the media has gone full propaganda since 2016 and not even trying to hide it is telling.
That said, Trump’s “brand” isn’t going to resonate enough to ever again get a win nationally because too many people in the middle won’t vote for him on principle (mean Orange man). Sure, that can work in some regions and locations but it’s just going to ensure a vocal minority.
Finding the balance between what has worked well while rebuilding the connection with those more moderate/centralized on the spectrum is required to beat the Democrats going forward. It’s basic math.
Biden is a centrist moderate
Why bother beating the democrats by being like them and chasing their narratives
GOP Scoducks
40-some-odd EOs later, it’s becoming apparent that he’s Obama’s fucking sock puppet...which is weird because Barack didn’t even want Joe to get the nomination, but Harris was so miserable in the primary that the DNC had to do something before Bernie cost them a national election and 4 more years of the mean orange man. -
Nobody said he's perfect. Just wonder why you give the democrats a pass unless you want them to win
You focus on Trump like they want you too. You repeat the false narrative.
We both know you wanted Biden and his awesome personality. I mean who cares about issues?
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You don’t get that on this bored. Trump supporters here I’ve read know he has personality flaws and simply don’t care. Put me in that camp. His attacks on McCain were absolutely stupid but he’s a Queen’s playboy who spent years on construction sites. He’s a New Yorker. Andrew Cuomo has the same bombast with lesser accomplishments and the Left loves the guy even though he’s well-known for being a bully and an asshole.Tequilla said:
I don’t endorse Biden in any manner ... I don’t expect the history books to look back on this Presidency fondlyRaceBannon said:
You got the president you deserveTequilla said:
1) My comment was 81% a zing to Grandpappy Race who uses that logic often when it comes to UW Football, etcPurpleThrobber said:
You know I love me some zone playing 3 point jackers but... Trump was the head of the GOP just as much as you played in the Final Four.Tequilla said:
Trump was the head of the GOP ...RaceBannon said:
The GOP was worthless to TrumpTequilla said:I have no issues with Noem ... would like to see her on a big stage to see how she does
That said, you can’t on one hand say that Republicans dropped the ball because they need to do a better job of what they say they are going to do (and she named examples) and then on the other hand say Trump is going to go down and judged as one of the best Presidents in history because of what he accomplished
It just comes off as playing both sides ...
I think her first response is correct and the better talking point ... President Trump accomplished a lot (name a couple) but as Republicans we failed to provide a replacement for Obamacare, drive comprehensive immigration reform, etc ... and note that as Republicans we want to be judged on our actions/results and how much they match our words ... that’s a winning message
In 1 week in the White House you can find countless examples of Biden playing the pay attention to what I say not what I do card
She's right you're not
You know how you like to talk about all accountability starts and ends at the top of the food chain?
He caught those dipshits playing footsie across the aisle and asleep at the wheel. They were just as arrogant as the @DNC and by the time they figured out that he was going to be their nominee, they had to come along to go along.
Now that he's gone the Romeny/McConnells of the world are back to their old uniparty bullshit. Except now people are pissed and they are taking it out on the GOP.
If anything Trump is NOW the head of the GOP because he'll go in and primary damned near any of them. He'll give no fucks. Those 10 GOP clowns who voted for impeachment - they're toast. wellbye.gif to Liz Cheney and her ilk.
Mitt better find a spot in Biden's world because Trump is coming for him next.
2) I don’t disagree with you that those that held their nose with Trump now have a runway to distance themselves
I’ll just say this ... Trump’s brought certain things to the forefront that has exposed some of the lies and hypocrisy within Government ... the fact that the media has gone full propaganda since 2016 and not even trying to hide it is telling.
That said, Trump’s “brand” isn’t going to resonate enough to ever again get a win nationally because too many people in the middle won’t vote for him on principle (mean Orange man). Sure, that can work in some regions and locations but it’s just going to ensure a vocal minority.
Finding the balance between what has worked well while rebuilding the connection with those more moderate/centralized on the spectrum is required to beat the Democrats going forward. It’s basic math.
Biden is a centrist moderate
Why bother beating the democrats by being like them and chasing their narratives
GOP Scoducks
That said, anybody that doesn’t understand how Trump’s persona bit him in the ass I don’t know what to tell you
The concerning thing to me with most heavy Trump supporters that I see is a refusal to concede that Trump has his own warts ... it’s Trump’s perfect and fuck everybody else -
Where have I ever given Biden a pass?RaceBannon said:Nobody said he's perfect. Just wonder why you give the democrats a pass unless you want them to win
You focus on Trump like they want you too. You repeat the false narrative.
We both know you wanted Biden and his awesome personality. I mean who cares about issues?
You should probably check to see if you’ve taken your meds today -
Wait are you talking to me or Tequila?RaceBannon said:Nobody said he's perfect. Just wonder why you give the democrats a pass unless you want them to win
You focus on Trump like they want you too. You repeat the false narrative.
We both know you wanted Biden and his awesome personality. I mean who cares about issues?
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I totally get that and agree with itNorthwestFresh said:
You don’t get that on this bored. Trump supporters here I’ve read know he has personality flaws and simply don’t care. Put me in that camp. His attacks on McCain were absolutely stupid but he’s a Queen’s playboy who spent years on construction sites. He’s a New Yorker. Andrew Cuomo has the same bombast with lesser accomplishments and the Left loves the guy even though he’s well-known for being a bully and an asshole.Tequilla said:
I don’t endorse Biden in any manner ... I don’t expect the history books to look back on this Presidency fondlyRaceBannon said:
You got the president you deserveTequilla said:
1) My comment was 81% a zing to Grandpappy Race who uses that logic often when it comes to UW Football, etcPurpleThrobber said:
You know I love me some zone playing 3 point jackers but... Trump was the head of the GOP just as much as you played in the Final Four.Tequilla said:
Trump was the head of the GOP ...RaceBannon said:
The GOP was worthless to TrumpTequilla said:I have no issues with Noem ... would like to see her on a big stage to see how she does
That said, you can’t on one hand say that Republicans dropped the ball because they need to do a better job of what they say they are going to do (and she named examples) and then on the other hand say Trump is going to go down and judged as one of the best Presidents in history because of what he accomplished
It just comes off as playing both sides ...
I think her first response is correct and the better talking point ... President Trump accomplished a lot (name a couple) but as Republicans we failed to provide a replacement for Obamacare, drive comprehensive immigration reform, etc ... and note that as Republicans we want to be judged on our actions/results and how much they match our words ... that’s a winning message
In 1 week in the White House you can find countless examples of Biden playing the pay attention to what I say not what I do card
She's right you're not
You know how you like to talk about all accountability starts and ends at the top of the food chain?
He caught those dipshits playing footsie across the aisle and asleep at the wheel. They were just as arrogant as the @DNC and by the time they figured out that he was going to be their nominee, they had to come along to go along.
Now that he's gone the Romeny/McConnells of the world are back to their old uniparty bullshit. Except now people are pissed and they are taking it out on the GOP.
If anything Trump is NOW the head of the GOP because he'll go in and primary damned near any of them. He'll give no fucks. Those 10 GOP clowns who voted for impeachment - they're toast. wellbye.gif to Liz Cheney and her ilk.
Mitt better find a spot in Biden's world because Trump is coming for him next.
2) I don’t disagree with you that those that held their nose with Trump now have a runway to distance themselves
I’ll just say this ... Trump’s brought certain things to the forefront that has exposed some of the lies and hypocrisy within Government ... the fact that the media has gone full propaganda since 2016 and not even trying to hide it is telling.
That said, Trump’s “brand” isn’t going to resonate enough to ever again get a win nationally because too many people in the middle won’t vote for him on principle (mean Orange man). Sure, that can work in some regions and locations but it’s just going to ensure a vocal minority.
Finding the balance between what has worked well while rebuilding the connection with those more moderate/centralized on the spectrum is required to beat the Democrats going forward. It’s basic math.
Biden is a centrist moderate
Why bother beating the democrats by being like them and chasing their narratives
GOP Scoducks
That said, anybody that doesn’t understand how Trump’s persona bit him in the ass I don’t know what to tell you
The concerning thing to me with most heavy Trump supporters that I see is a refusal to concede that Trump has his own warts ... it’s Trump’s perfect and fuck everybody else
But the reality is that a GOP nominee isn’t winning an election without winning the suburban vote ... and notably making inroads with those women
I think most of us can realize that Trump’s not going to perform well in that segment ... he lost them in 2020 and I don’t see a path for him flipping that in 2024
There’s a lot of people out there that value whether they perceive a candidate is a “good person” as a key decision point -
Just curious, who did you vote for?Tequilla said:
I totally get that and agree with itNorthwestFresh said:
You don’t get that on this bored. Trump supporters here I’ve read know he has personality flaws and simply don’t care. Put me in that camp. His attacks on McCain were absolutely stupid but he’s a Queen’s playboy who spent years on construction sites. He’s a New Yorker. Andrew Cuomo has the same bombast with lesser accomplishments and the Left loves the guy even though he’s well-known for being a bully and an asshole.Tequilla said:
I don’t endorse Biden in any manner ... I don’t expect the history books to look back on this Presidency fondlyRaceBannon said:
You got the president you deserveTequilla said:
1) My comment was 81% a zing to Grandpappy Race who uses that logic often when it comes to UW Football, etcPurpleThrobber said:
You know I love me some zone playing 3 point jackers but... Trump was the head of the GOP just as much as you played in the Final Four.Tequilla said:
Trump was the head of the GOP ...RaceBannon said:
The GOP was worthless to TrumpTequilla said:I have no issues with Noem ... would like to see her on a big stage to see how she does
That said, you can’t on one hand say that Republicans dropped the ball because they need to do a better job of what they say they are going to do (and she named examples) and then on the other hand say Trump is going to go down and judged as one of the best Presidents in history because of what he accomplished
It just comes off as playing both sides ...
I think her first response is correct and the better talking point ... President Trump accomplished a lot (name a couple) but as Republicans we failed to provide a replacement for Obamacare, drive comprehensive immigration reform, etc ... and note that as Republicans we want to be judged on our actions/results and how much they match our words ... that’s a winning message
In 1 week in the White House you can find countless examples of Biden playing the pay attention to what I say not what I do card
She's right you're not
You know how you like to talk about all accountability starts and ends at the top of the food chain?
He caught those dipshits playing footsie across the aisle and asleep at the wheel. They were just as arrogant as the @DNC and by the time they figured out that he was going to be their nominee, they had to come along to go along.
Now that he's gone the Romeny/McConnells of the world are back to their old uniparty bullshit. Except now people are pissed and they are taking it out on the GOP.
If anything Trump is NOW the head of the GOP because he'll go in and primary damned near any of them. He'll give no fucks. Those 10 GOP clowns who voted for impeachment - they're toast. wellbye.gif to Liz Cheney and her ilk.
Mitt better find a spot in Biden's world because Trump is coming for him next.
2) I don’t disagree with you that those that held their nose with Trump now have a runway to distance themselves
I’ll just say this ... Trump’s brought certain things to the forefront that has exposed some of the lies and hypocrisy within Government ... the fact that the media has gone full propaganda since 2016 and not even trying to hide it is telling.
That said, Trump’s “brand” isn’t going to resonate enough to ever again get a win nationally because too many people in the middle won’t vote for him on principle (mean Orange man). Sure, that can work in some regions and locations but it’s just going to ensure a vocal minority.
Finding the balance between what has worked well while rebuilding the connection with those more moderate/centralized on the spectrum is required to beat the Democrats going forward. It’s basic math.
Biden is a centrist moderate
Why bother beating the democrats by being like them and chasing their narratives
GOP Scoducks
That said, anybody that doesn’t understand how Trump’s persona bit him in the ass I don’t know what to tell you
The concerning thing to me with most heavy Trump supporters that I see is a refusal to concede that Trump has his own warts ... it’s Trump’s perfect and fuck everybody else
But the reality is that a GOP nominee isn’t winning an election without winning the suburban vote ... and notably making inroads with those women
I think most of us can realize that Trump’s not going to perform well in that segment ... he lost them in 2020 and I don’t see a path for him flipping that in 2024
There’s a lot of people out there that value whether they perceive a candidate is a “good person” as a key decision point -
Dumbfuck is my targetthechatch said:
Wait are you talking to me or Tequila?RaceBannon said:Nobody said he's perfect. Just wonder why you give the democrats a pass unless you want them to win
You focus on Trump like they want you too. You repeat the false narrative.
We both know you wanted Biden and his awesome personality. I mean who cares about issues?
Not you
