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Emeka Megwa, 2022 4* RB, Keller (Timber Creek), TX (COMMITTED)

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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,678 Swaye's Wigwam

    Woof incoming?

    After he takes his scheduled visits, Megwa said he hopes to make his decision.

    "I want to make my decision pretty quickly after I that," Megwa noted. "I'm looking for a school that has it all -- education, football, development -- and I want the chance to showcase my talents. Playing time is important, but I just want the chance to win a spot. I don't expect to just be handed the job.
    LFG!
    LFG... I didn’t know we? Did that hear.

    @1to392831weretaken woodchuck and mr burns were never coming here.

    It’s megwa and hopefully schlofenbaker. We’ll loose two graduates this yr and of the five guys left (fig, Davis, Sunday, berry, adams- needs to move to safety), I have to think someone’s transferring out.
    Just TBSnig out on the latest short-season Hudls, Megwa and Schlenbaker look like the exact same player, with the nod in athleticism going to Megwa. The other two both look quite a bit quicker on film for a change of pace.
    I didn’t look at film but size makes me think you’re right with that one... more elusive, shifty backs? that pic fudgie posted makes this dude look like a brick shithouse. Sign em up!
    He looks big in that picture. In his sophomore highlights he looks small, like a skinny Gaskin with tremendous quickness. In the limited junior clips he looks bigger, but I still thought probably around 5'10". He also doesn't look as quick or fast but the highlights are pretty limited.

    I sure as fuck didn't realize he was anything like 6'2" or over 200lbs.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    In his junior film he looks awfully big and is out there trucking dudes.
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,100

    Woof incoming?

    After he takes his scheduled visits, Megwa said he hopes to make his decision.

    "I want to make my decision pretty quickly after I that," Megwa noted. "I'm looking for a school that has it all -- education, football, development -- and I want the chance to showcase my talents. Playing time is important, but I just want the chance to win a spot. I don't expect to just be handed the job.
    LFG!
    LFG... I didn’t know we? Did that hear.

    @1to392831weretaken woodchuck and mr burns were never coming here.

    It’s megwa and hopefully schlofenbaker. We’ll loose two graduates this yr and of the five guys left (fig, Davis, Sunday, berry, adams- needs to move to safety), I have to think someone’s transferring out.
    Just TBSnig out on the latest short-season Hudls, Megwa and Schlenbaker look like the exact same player, with the nod in athleticism going to Megwa. The other two both look quite a bit quicker on film for a change of pace.
    I didn’t look at film but size makes me think you’re right with that one... more elusive, shifty backs? that pic fudgie posted makes this dude look like a brick shithouse. Sign em up!
    So Megwa gains the coveted Ballz' Big Back stamp of approval?
    Pretty much. Thinking about fucking you off for mentioning that name though...
  • animate
    animate Member Posts: 4,245
    6'1.5"?

    I can't believe that.

    you mean 5'10"?

    I can believe that. We can't have nice things.
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,100
    animate said:

    6'1.5"?

    I can't believe that.

    you mean 5'10"?

    I can believe that. We can't have nice things.

    *we?
  • Beno4Life
    Beno4Life Member Posts: 533
    If he's so good, why is he considering Washington? Why doesn't anyone else want him?
  • bluechipuwrecruits
    bluechipuwrecruits Member Posts: 394
    He has not been cb here.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696

    He has not been cb here.

    And?
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Beno4Life said:

    If he's so good, why is he considering Washington? Why doesn't anyone else want him?

    I’ll touch on this in the next few days
  • sinceredawg
    sinceredawg Member Posts: 837
    Tequilla said:

    Beno4Life said:

    If he's so good, why is he considering Washington? Why doesn't anyone else want him?

    I’ll touch on this in the next few days
    TMI
  • TommySQC
    TommySQC Member Posts: 5,813

    Tequilla said:

    Beno4Life said:

    If he's so good, why is he considering Washington? Why doesn't anyone else want him?

    I’ll touch on this in the next few days
    TMI
    https://youtu.be/otCpCn0l4Wo
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,196
    Tequilla said:

    Beno4Life said:

    If he's so good, why is he considering Washington? Why doesn't anyone else want him?

    I’ll touch on this in the next few days
    Say it now. Pussy
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    chuck said:

    I never watched this guys film because he's a Boner-popper recruit so I just assumed he was mediocre.... wow I was impressed with this kid.

    He's Gaskin-esque. A patient runner with a short stride and choppy footwork who does a good job of angling his body to make defenders miss in tight spaces. And for having a short stride he then has the ability to pull away from guys.

    Nothing about Sunday's film was mediocre

    Berry was meh
    Sunday's junior highlight film was pretty damn mediocre. You could see potential with his frame and strength, but he just looked like a bigger fish bullying his way through a real small pond. I do have to give props to you guys who saw through how slow he was though. He looked way quicker in senior highlights, and obviously improved his speed a lot more as of this spring. .

    Bottom line is I'll eat my crow happily. There's no real spin to be found. I was just wrong. I'm excited about him now.
    He’s not slow. He ran a 4.49 at the husky combine. We (sunday detractors) were wrong about his long speed. Hopefully he improves his lateral ability from fall camp.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,678 Swaye's Wigwam

    chuck said:

    I never watched this guys film because he's a Boner-popper recruit so I just assumed he was mediocre.... wow I was impressed with this kid.

    He's Gaskin-esque. A patient runner with a short stride and choppy footwork who does a good job of angling his body to make defenders miss in tight spaces. And for having a short stride he then has the ability to pull away from guys.

    Nothing about Sunday's film was mediocre

    Berry was meh
    Sunday's junior highlight film was pretty damn mediocre. You could see potential with his frame and strength, but he just looked like a bigger fish bullying his way through a real small pond. I do have to give props to you guys who saw through how slow he was though. He looked way quicker in senior highlights, and obviously improved his speed a lot more as of this spring. .

    Bottom line is I'll eat my crow happily. There's no real spin to be found. I was just wrong. I'm excited about him now.
    He’s not slow. He ran a 4.49 at the husky combine. We (sunday detractors) were wrong about his long speed. Hopefully he improves his lateral ability from fall camp.
    All my point was. You could see it in the few highlights with him carrying the ball too. He gained a gear...maybe two.

  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,720 Founders Club
    I know it's the middle of the store, but why the fuck would any running back want to come here and be a part of this "stable"?

    Get like 4 carries a game that determines your future here?

    It's a miracle that Gaskin was ever featured after the game he had against Boise in 2015.
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,288 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    In Texas, you have two primary high school "organizations" ...

    UIL = Public schools

    TAPPS = Private schools

    UIL is the big shot in Texas and runs up to 6A in terms of leagues ... the biggest leagues you're talking of school enrollments of 5,000+.

    TAPPS with the private schools are generally not viewed as comparable to the UIL. It's not uncommon that you'll find college players out of there but it's probably more tied to other sports than the "revenue driver sports."

    What you don't get in Texas is the mix of public/private schools like you have in Washington. In Washington high schools, you get the private schools like O'Dea, Eastside Catholic, etc. that are recruiting and the athletic programs at those schools are often some of the best in the state. In Texas, it's the high schools that are recruiting, the funding in the public high schools are quite good, and if you're a major prospect you're playing for a public school.

    All of that helps to explain why we're in a good position for Megwa. If you look at his highlights, you can see that he was playing for Nolan Catholic, which is in the high division of TAPPS. Nolan Catholic made it to the State Championship game and lost to Parish Episcopal from Dallas (who they had beat earlier in the season).

    In the thread here, it appears as if he's going to spend his Senior season with Keller Timber Creek. I know this area very well. It's a 6A district and is in the same district as perennial Texas HS power Southlake Carroll. Without knowing particulars, I would suspect that the family has lived in Keller and the daily drive to/from home to Ft Worth where Nolan Catholic is located is probably a bit of a pain in the ass (20 minutes each way without traffic, but with daily traffic probably looking at closer to 30-45 minutes each way). The other obviously is to play against high end high school competition and potentially get better exposure for recruiting.

    All of that comes back to the question of "how did we get lucky here" ...

    As I've noted before, the way that Texas recruiting tends to operate, there is a significant bias to 6A players and depending on the district 5A players are considered. Because there is such a quantity of elite programs recruiting the state, rarely do they need to "go slumming" at the lower levels for talent in the state. In particular, your next tier programs like TCU has had a lot of success over the years recruiting a bit at the lower levels that either were being under recruited or players that needed positional switches/development at the college level (it's not uncommon that you'll find HS QBs at lower levels translate into RBs, WRs, or even DEs in college). That doesn't mean that these types of programs aren't able to recruit at the higher levels, but they aren't going to win a large % of those battles

    If you look at what UW has been doing in Texas and in particular how they've been making in roads, they've been getting success by getting into that next tier of player where they are able to identify the player that the major programs are missing. When we recruited Sunday for instance, I noted that his HS in Waco was a 4A school which almost entirely is going to get ignored by most of the key in-state programs and other top programs.

    From my perspective, when I look at the offer list of Megwa, I see a similar situation. Notre Dame being somewhat involved makes sense given the Catholic tie-in. However, the ND "brand" will expect that they're able to land a more proven RB prospect as for better or worse, there's probably a bit of an unknown given competition levels. Another way to think about it would be to think about the NFL Draft and how there are always questions about players coming from the lower level and how they'll be able to translate to the NFL level.

    But in the end, when you look at the offers that he has, my guess is that you're seeing the bigger programs viewing him as a backup/follow prospect and those for who he's a take at this point probably fall in the category of mediocre. We're most likely the only program that combines being a take with being a conference championship caliber program. In a nutshell, beyond other reasons that UW is attractive as a school to a recruit, UW is probably the best on-field program that he's going to get to be able to commit to. Is it possible that he's able to get one of the bigger schools to come back in towards the end if they have a need? Possible. But I suspect that he's evaluated the situation around him and wants to go where he's wanted versus being a backup plan.

    Finally, there's probably a legitimate question that can be made regarding UW's recruiting strategy ... notably how can we expect to compete with the top programs if we're not able to get the players that they are. It's a fair question. I think it's also very clear at this point though that UW's ability to win direct recruiting battles against those programs is more of an exception than the rule. In light of that, we can either waste our time trying to do the same thing over and over with the same results or try something different. What we do know as a program is that we're very good at identifying prospects that have an opportunity to develop over their college careers and find themselves in the NFL. A player like Megwa is a good example of this as the comments of comparing him to Gaskin in his film is a good one. A player like Gaskin isn't going to wow the big programs in recruiting but there's no question that he's capable of playing on that field.

    Anyway, that's a TL, DR way of saying that Megwa's a very nice looking player, would be a great get for UW, and is a great example of how players can fall through the cracks a bit when it comes to recruiting.

    Do you know any other way?
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Tequilla said:

    In Texas, you have two primary high school "organizations" ...

    UIL = Public schools

    TAPPS = Private schools

    UIL is the big shot in Texas and runs up to 6A in terms of leagues ... the biggest leagues you're talking of school enrollments of 5,000+.

    TAPPS with the private schools are generally not viewed as comparable to the UIL. It's not uncommon that you'll find college players out of there but it's probably more tied to other sports than the "revenue driver sports."

    What you don't get in Texas is the mix of public/private schools like you have in Washington. In Washington high schools, you get the private schools like O'Dea, Eastside Catholic, etc. that are recruiting and the athletic programs at those schools are often some of the best in the state. In Texas, it's the high schools that are recruiting, the funding in the public high schools are quite good, and if you're a major prospect you're playing for a public school.

    All of that helps to explain why we're in a good position for Megwa. If you look at his highlights, you can see that he was playing for Nolan Catholic, which is in the high division of TAPPS. Nolan Catholic made it to the State Championship game and lost to Parish Episcopal from Dallas (who they had beat earlier in the season).

    In the thread here, it appears as if he's going to spend his Senior season with Keller Timber Creek. I know this area very well. It's a 6A district and is in the same district as perennial Texas HS power Southlake Carroll. Without knowing particulars, I would suspect that the family has lived in Keller and the daily drive to/from home to Ft Worth where Nolan Catholic is located is probably a bit of a pain in the ass (20 minutes each way without traffic, but with daily traffic probably looking at closer to 30-45 minutes each way). The other obviously is to play against high end high school competition and potentially get better exposure for recruiting.

    All of that comes back to the question of "how did we get lucky here" ...

    As I've noted before, the way that Texas recruiting tends to operate, there is a significant bias to 6A players and depending on the district 5A players are considered. Because there is such a quantity of elite programs recruiting the state, rarely do they need to "go slumming" at the lower levels for talent in the state. In particular, your next tier programs like TCU has had a lot of success over the years recruiting a bit at the lower levels that either were being under recruited or players that needed positional switches/development at the college level (it's not uncommon that you'll find HS QBs at lower levels translate into RBs, WRs, or even DEs in college). That doesn't mean that these types of programs aren't able to recruit at the higher levels, but they aren't going to win a large % of those battles

    If you look at what UW has been doing in Texas and in particular how they've been making in roads, they've been getting success by getting into that next tier of player where they are able to identify the player that the major programs are missing. When we recruited Sunday for instance, I noted that his HS in Waco was a 4A school which almost entirely is going to get ignored by most of the key in-state programs and other top programs.

    From my perspective, when I look at the offer list of Megwa, I see a similar situation. Notre Dame being somewhat involved makes sense given the Catholic tie-in. However, the ND "brand" will expect that they're able to land a more proven RB prospect as for better or worse, there's probably a bit of an unknown given competition levels. Another way to think about it would be to think about the NFL Draft and how there are always questions about players coming from the lower level and how they'll be able to translate to the NFL level.

    But in the end, when you look at the offers that he has, my guess is that you're seeing the bigger programs viewing him as a backup/follow prospect and those for who he's a take at this point probably fall in the category of mediocre. We're most likely the only program that combines being a take with being a conference championship caliber program. In a nutshell, beyond other reasons that UW is attractive as a school to a recruit, UW is probably the best on-field program that he's going to get to be able to commit to. Is it possible that he's able to get one of the bigger schools to come back in towards the end if they have a need? Possible. But I suspect that he's evaluated the situation around him and wants to go where he's wanted versus being a backup plan.

    Finally, there's probably a legitimate question that can be made regarding UW's recruiting strategy ... notably how can we expect to compete with the top programs if we're not able to get the players that they are. It's a fair question. I think it's also very clear at this point though that UW's ability to win direct recruiting battles against those programs is more of an exception than the rule. In light of that, we can either waste our time trying to do the same thing over and over with the same results or try something different. What we do know as a program is that we're very good at identifying prospects that have an opportunity to develop over their college careers and find themselves in the NFL. A player like Megwa is a good example of this as the comments of comparing him to Gaskin in his film is a good one. A player like Gaskin isn't going to wow the big programs in recruiting but there's no question that he's capable of playing on that field.

    Anyway, that's a TL, DR way of saying that Megwa's a very nice looking player, would be a great get for UW, and is a great example of how players can fall through the cracks a bit when it comes to recruiting.

    Do you know any other way?
    Yes
  • godawgst
    godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,554 Swaye's Wigwam
    "But in the end, when you look at the offers that he has, my guess is that you're seeing the bigger programs viewing him as a backup/follow prospect."

    This sums up why I dislike our Texas Recruiting Philosophy in general.

    You can't convince me there are kids like this on the West Coast who have more of a idea of what we've done in football and wouldn't want to be a part of it. Plus you make inroads into those schools that one day might produce a anywhere in America kid that comes here b/c of pipeline we've developed.

    That is never going to happen in Texas.

    I also think Jimmy has to re-evaluate the continued philosophy that Pete started of not playing the committable offer game. While admirable, those 1-3 backup/follow prospects who you offer that smartly jump on it over the course of 4 years equals half a class of guys who's ceilings will always be fairly low.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,678 Swaye's Wigwam
    Tequilla said:

    chuck said:

    That seems to describe Curne too. The big time programs “i.e. LSU” circled back to him as a backup plan but he came west, where he’d felt the love. I don’t hate what we’re doing in Texas.

    Nope it's working pretty well. There are some good 3* players in Texas for sure, players that would be easy 4* playing in washimgton.

    They need to float offers to the bigger targets there too though. Probably never land them as HS recruits, but they would make some inroads that help them later in the portal.
    I suspect the portal at some point becomes as important as HS recruiting
    Yeah now that i see the quality of players that are portaling I'm fully on board. I dont know if it's going to keep being a good thing as it evolves, but right now I like it a lot.