Tucker: We heard you. It’s hard to trust anything. Here’s what we know
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Dammit, I got pissed all over again. Here a few results, just from CNN Wire, Nov 2016 - Jan 2017, "Russian election hacking."GrundleStiltzkin said:
Late in 2016 and into early 2017, media used the word “hacking” quite a bit in regard to the election and Russia, particularly in headlines. I’ve posted screenshots before here, not going to redo it. If you’d read into the story, you’d see they used “hack” in like the lifehack sense. However, click-by readers likely took the meaning that Russians got onto computers & changed votes.Kingdome_Urinals said:
Yeah, I've never met anyone who actually thinks Russians messed with the ballots. The questions were to do with Russian "disinformation" on social media. MSNBC took the whole thing too far, much like right wing media is doing right now.RoadTrip said:
2015.5 - 2020 has been the biggest sham in the history of shams.Swaye said:That was epic. Takedown on voter fraud, big tech, and pollsters, and how ALL of it conspired to flip this election. And it's unassailable. Which means the usual useful idiots will be here soon to tell us these facts aren't really facts because you know, reasons. And Trump bad. And other stuff!
2020 is the biggest sham in the history of shams.
RATs 2016
"Russia rigged our election."
RATs 2020
"It's impossible to rig an election."
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I forgot about him. I used to listen to him in the 1990sPurpleThrobber said:Fire_Marshall_Bill said:I thought Tucker was a pompous, preppy douche in like 2008. He's really come around.
Are you confusing Tucker Carlson with John Carlson?
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It was similar to this year in that Trump was demanded to concede the election before it happened and Obama and Hillary had big belly laughs at the election being stolen which Trump was getting at.
Then Trump won and the election was stolen. When the media did the Biden pivot this year to "no fraud ever anywhere" anyone with half a brain had to see they are full of shit and likely hiding something
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deserves owen thread?RaceBannon said:To the newcomers - we aren't going back over all the lessons we taught the last 4 years. Either catch up or don't but your hot ACA takes and the like have mold on them
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The thing that is overlooked here is the appearance of impropriety. I get, and somewhat agree with, the idea that there is a wing of misinformation-generators and conspiracy theory playwrites working on the right who cook up a lot of shit. Don't care.
The right to have your vote counted in a fairly executed election is about as fundamental as it gets. The government, whether in control by the far right or the far left, pisses away billions of dollars on non-sense every year.
There is no reason, fiscal or otherwise, that has been articulated to me to not spend a few hundred million and have an audit done of the vote when circumstances indicate it's necessary. Those circumstances don't just include prima facie evidence of wrongdoing. They would also include, IMO, state votes that are very close, particularly in states with enough electoral votes to have made a difference.
Full disclosure: I voted for Trump, but I'm not in that camp of people who get depressed about it. It's not like when Miami loses. I'll just bend over and write a bigger check to the IRS I guess. And learn to speak Chinese ... or something. But I'd like to know that I'm doing so because my fellow Americans wanted it that way. -
I see it this way as a centrist too and, hence, from an even keeled approach. Folks who voted Trump are making a conscious choice to be enraged for the next 4 years based on a relative misunderstanding of how elections work. I imagine it’ll eventually subside.creepycoug said:The thing that is overlooked here is the appearance of impropriety. I get, and somewhat agree with, the idea that there is a wing of misinformation-generators and conspiracy theory playwrites working on the right who cook up a lot of shit. Don't care.
The right to have your vote counted in a fairly executed election is about as fundamental as it gets. The government, whether in control by the far right or the far left, pisses away billions of dollars on non-sense every year.
There is no reason, fiscal or otherwise, that has been articulated to me to not spend a few hundred million and have an audit done of the vote when circumstances indicate it's necessary. Those circumstances don't just include prima facie evidence of wrongdoing. They would also include, IMO, state votes that are very close, particularly in states with enough electoral votes to have made a difference.
Full disclosure: I voted for Trump, but I'm not in that camp of people who get depressed about it. It's not like when Miami loses. I'll just bend over and writer a bigger check to the IRS I guess. And learn to speak Chinese ... or something. But I'd like to know that I'm doing so because my fellow Americans wanted it that way. -
Its been a week and the votes aren't even counted yetMelloDawg said:
I see it this way as a centrist too and, hence, from an even keeled approach. Folks who voted Trump are making a conscious choice to be enraged for the next 4 years based on a relative misunderstanding of how elections work. I imagine it’ll eventually subside.creepycoug said:The thing that is overlooked here is the appearance of impropriety. I get, and somewhat agree with, the idea that there is a wing of misinformation-generators and conspiracy theory playwrites working on the right who cook up a lot of shit. Don't care.
The right to have your vote counted in a fairly executed election is about as fundamental as it gets. The government, whether in control by the far right or the far left, pisses away billions of dollars on non-sense every year.
There is no reason, fiscal or otherwise, that has been articulated to me to not spend a few hundred million and have an audit done of the vote when circumstances indicate it's necessary. Those circumstances don't just include prima facie evidence of wrongdoing. They would also include, IMO, state votes that are very close, particularly in states with enough electoral votes to have made a difference.
Full disclosure: I voted for Trump, but I'm not in that camp of people who get depressed about it. It's not like when Miami loses. I'll just bend over and writer a bigger check to the IRS I guess. And learn to speak Chinese ... or something. But I'd like to know that I'm doing so because my fellow Americans wanted it that way.
And you are projecting again with the 4 year bullshit
If this was reversed the cities would be on fire as we speak
If it is reversed the cities will burn and you idiots are still crying about 2000
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Only after they're dragged into the 21st century and realize that they like it after allMelloDawg said:
I see it this way as a centrist too and, hence, from an even keeled approach. Folks who voted Trump are making a conscious choice to be enraged for the next 4 years based on a relative misunderstanding of how elections work. I imagine it’ll eventually subside.creepycoug said:The thing that is overlooked here is the appearance of impropriety. I get, and somewhat agree with, the idea that there is a wing of misinformation-generators and conspiracy theory playwrites working on the right who cook up a lot of shit. Don't care.
The right to have your vote counted in a fairly executed election is about as fundamental as it gets. The government, whether in control by the far right or the far left, pisses away billions of dollars on non-sense every year.
There is no reason, fiscal or otherwise, that has been articulated to me to not spend a few hundred million and have an audit done of the vote when circumstances indicate it's necessary. Those circumstances don't just include prima facie evidence of wrongdoing. They would also include, IMO, state votes that are very close, particularly in states with enough electoral votes to have made a difference.
Full disclosure: I voted for Trump, but I'm not in that camp of people who get depressed about it. It's not like when Miami loses. I'll just bend over and writer a bigger check to the IRS I guess. And learn to speak Chinese ... or something. But I'd like to know that I'm doing so because my fellow Americans wanted it that way. -
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“A relative misunderstanding of how elections work.” OK sure pal.MelloDawg said:
I see it this way as a centrist too and, hence, from an even keeled approach. Folks who voted Trump are making a conscious choice to be enraged for the next 4 years based on a relative misunderstanding of how elections work. I imagine it’ll eventually subside.creepycoug said:The thing that is overlooked here is the appearance of impropriety. I get, and somewhat agree with, the idea that there is a wing of misinformation-generators and conspiracy theory playwrites working on the right who cook up a lot of shit. Don't care.
The right to have your vote counted in a fairly executed election is about as fundamental as it gets. The government, whether in control by the far right or the far left, pisses away billions of dollars on non-sense every year.
There is no reason, fiscal or otherwise, that has been articulated to me to not spend a few hundred million and have an audit done of the vote when circumstances indicate it's necessary. Those circumstances don't just include prima facie evidence of wrongdoing. They would also include, IMO, state votes that are very close, particularly in states with enough electoral votes to have made a difference.
Full disclosure: I voted for Trump, but I'm not in that camp of people who get depressed about it. It's not like when Miami loses. I'll just bend over and writer a bigger check to the IRS I guess. And learn to speak Chinese ... or something. But I'd like to know that I'm doing so because my fellow Americans wanted it that way.
Who is enraged? That was your side the last 4 years.
