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  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,034 Standard Supporter
    MelloDawg said:

    The thing that is overlooked here is the appearance of impropriety. I get, and somewhat agree with, the idea that there is a wing of misinformation-generators and conspiracy theory playwrites working on the right who cook up a lot of shit. Don't care.

    The right to have your vote counted in a fairly executed election is about as fundamental as it gets. The government, whether in control by the far right or the far left, pisses away billions of dollars on non-sense every year.

    There is no reason, fiscal or otherwise, that has been articulated to me to not spend a few hundred million and have an audit done of the vote when circumstances indicate it's necessary. Those circumstances don't just include prima facie evidence of wrongdoing. They would also include, IMO, state votes that are very close, particularly in states with enough electoral votes to have made a difference.

    Full disclosure: I voted for Trump, but I'm not in that camp of people who get depressed about it. It's not like when Miami loses. I'll just bend over and writer a bigger check to the IRS I guess. And learn to speak Chinese ... or something. But I'd like to know that I'm doing so because my fellow Americans wanted it that way.

    I see it this way as a centrist too and, hence, from an even keeled approach. Folks who voted Trump are making a conscious choice to be enraged for the next 4 years based on a relative misunderstanding of how elections work. I imagine it’ll eventually subside.
    Notice the Fuck Off button? Good.

    You don't know anything about actual Trump voters, obviously. Keep devouring CNN and MSNBC Mr. Even Keel.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,145

    Hillary is an idiot. I'm happy to count all the votes. Most liberals hate Trumpers not Russians, because they know Trumpers elected him fair and square.

    I support working class politics not corporate and identity-based Dems.

    Well then you must really hate the RAT party now that or you're really old and are confused about what and who the modern day RAT party is.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,145

    The thing that is overlooked here is the appearance of impropriety. I get, and somewhat agree with, the idea that there is a wing of misinformation-generators and conspiracy theory playwrites working on the right who cook up a lot of shit. Don't care.

    The right to have your vote counted in a fairly executed election is about as fundamental as it gets. The government, whether in control by the far right or the far left, pisses away billions of dollars on non-sense every year.

    There is no reason, fiscal or otherwise, that has been articulated to me to not spend a few hundred million and have an audit done of the vote when circumstances indicate it's necessary. Those circumstances don't just include prima facie evidence of wrongdoing. They would also include, IMO, state votes that are very close, particularly in states with enough electoral votes to have made a difference.

    Full disclosure: I voted for Trump, but I'm not in that camp of people who get depressed about it. It's not like when Miami loses. I'll just bend over and write a bigger check to the IRS I guess. And learn to speak Chinese ... or something. But I'd like to know that I'm doing so because my fellow Americans wanted it that way.

    Just like my business partner. Some people just want to fight...me. That usually gets me in more trouble but I almost always have more fun doing it. BTW, fuck paying more taxes; we already pay more than enough.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,625 Standard Supporter
    MelloDawg said:

    The thing that is overlooked here is the appearance of impropriety. I get, and somewhat agree with, the idea that there is a wing of misinformation-generators and conspiracy theory playwrites working on the right who cook up a lot of shit. Don't care.

    The right to have your vote counted in a fairly executed election is about as fundamental as it gets. The government, whether in control by the far right or the far left, pisses away billions of dollars on non-sense every year.

    There is no reason, fiscal or otherwise, that has been articulated to me to not spend a few hundred million and have an audit done of the vote when circumstances indicate it's necessary. Those circumstances don't just include prima facie evidence of wrongdoing. They would also include, IMO, state votes that are very close, particularly in states with enough electoral votes to have made a difference.

    Full disclosure: I voted for Trump, but I'm not in that camp of people who get depressed about it. It's not like when Miami loses. I'll just bend over and writer a bigger check to the IRS I guess. And learn to speak Chinese ... or something. But I'd like to know that I'm doing so because my fellow Americans wanted it that way.

    I see it this way as a centrist too and, hence, from an even keeled approach. Folks who voted Trump are making a conscious choice to be enraged for the next 4 years based on a relative misunderstanding of how elections work. I imagine it’ll eventually subside.
    In 2016 if Hillary was way out in front in every swing state and the voting was stopped, on purpose, and when it resumed the positions changed drastically and magically for only the office of president the left would have gone bat shit crazy. They would have burned everything as they are now the communist party.

    You'd still be crying and have a massive mascara bill for 4 years.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016
    Sledog said:

    MelloDawg said:

    The thing that is overlooked here is the appearance of impropriety. I get, and somewhat agree with, the idea that there is a wing of misinformation-generators and conspiracy theory playwrites working on the right who cook up a lot of shit. Don't care.

    The right to have your vote counted in a fairly executed election is about as fundamental as it gets. The government, whether in control by the far right or the far left, pisses away billions of dollars on non-sense every year.

    There is no reason, fiscal or otherwise, that has been articulated to me to not spend a few hundred million and have an audit done of the vote when circumstances indicate it's necessary. Those circumstances don't just include prima facie evidence of wrongdoing. They would also include, IMO, state votes that are very close, particularly in states with enough electoral votes to have made a difference.

    Full disclosure: I voted for Trump, but I'm not in that camp of people who get depressed about it. It's not like when Miami loses. I'll just bend over and writer a bigger check to the IRS I guess. And learn to speak Chinese ... or something. But I'd like to know that I'm doing so because my fellow Americans wanted it that way.

    I see it this way as a centrist too and, hence, from an even keeled approach. Folks who voted Trump are making a conscious choice to be enraged for the next 4 years based on a relative misunderstanding of how elections work. I imagine it’ll eventually subside.
    In 2016 if Hillary was way out in front in every swing state and the voting was stopped, on purpose, and when it resumed the positions changed drastically and magically for only the office of president the left would have gone bat shit crazy. They would have burned everything as they are now the communist party.

    You'd still be crying and have a massive mascara bill for 4 years.
    That was funny Sleddy. I laffed.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    BearsWiin said:

    MelloDawg said:

    The thing that is overlooked here is the appearance of impropriety. I get, and somewhat agree with, the idea that there is a wing of misinformation-generators and conspiracy theory playwrites working on the right who cook up a lot of shit. Don't care.

    The right to have your vote counted in a fairly executed election is about as fundamental as it gets. The government, whether in control by the far right or the far left, pisses away billions of dollars on non-sense every year.

    There is no reason, fiscal or otherwise, that has been articulated to me to not spend a few hundred million and have an audit done of the vote when circumstances indicate it's necessary. Those circumstances don't just include prima facie evidence of wrongdoing. They would also include, IMO, state votes that are very close, particularly in states with enough electoral votes to have made a difference.

    Full disclosure: I voted for Trump, but I'm not in that camp of people who get depressed about it. It's not like when Miami loses. I'll just bend over and writer a bigger check to the IRS I guess. And learn to speak Chinese ... or something. But I'd like to know that I'm doing so because my fellow Americans wanted it that way.

    I see it this way as a centrist too and, hence, from an even keeled approach. Folks who voted Trump are making a conscious choice to be enraged for the next 4 years based on a relative misunderstanding of how elections work. I imagine it’ll eventually subside.
    Only after they're dragged into the 21st century and realize that they like it after all
    All the best ideas require the force of government to institute them.
    You will learn to love your constant rolling brownouts and electric cars. Everybody says so.
  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,070

    BearsWiin said:

    MelloDawg said:

    The thing that is overlooked here is the appearance of impropriety. I get, and somewhat agree with, the idea that there is a wing of misinformation-generators and conspiracy theory playwrites working on the right who cook up a lot of shit. Don't care.

    The right to have your vote counted in a fairly executed election is about as fundamental as it gets. The government, whether in control by the far right or the far left, pisses away billions of dollars on non-sense every year.

    There is no reason, fiscal or otherwise, that has been articulated to me to not spend a few hundred million and have an audit done of the vote when circumstances indicate it's necessary. Those circumstances don't just include prima facie evidence of wrongdoing. They would also include, IMO, state votes that are very close, particularly in states with enough electoral votes to have made a difference.

    Full disclosure: I voted for Trump, but I'm not in that camp of people who get depressed about it. It's not like when Miami loses. I'll just bend over and writer a bigger check to the IRS I guess. And learn to speak Chinese ... or something. But I'd like to know that I'm doing so because my fellow Americans wanted it that way.

    I see it this way as a centrist too and, hence, from an even keeled approach. Folks who voted Trump are making a conscious choice to be enraged for the next 4 years based on a relative misunderstanding of how elections work. I imagine it’ll eventually subside.
    Only after they're dragged into the 21st century and realize that they like it after all
    All the best ideas require the force of government to institute them.
    Unintentionally progressive POTD
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  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,777

    Hillary is an idiot. I'm happy to count all the votes. Most liberals hate Trumpers not Russians, because they know Trumpers elected him fair and square.

    I support working class politics not corporate and identity-based Dems.

    How about count all legal votes, and not those dumped at 4am after counts were supposedly halted?
    Again that’s just not how this works. Ballots that are perfectly legal, all rules followed and postmarked within the allowed timeframe, arrive at different times. There is no rule that says ballots that arrive after 12am, 2am, or whatever time you want to throw out are illegal. As long as the postmark is within the timeframe, a ballot can arrive after Election Day, as is often the case with overseas military ballots. This “4am ballot dump” is again a conspiracy theory. Ballots can arrive and be counted at 4am the day after Election Day. This of course varies by state, but some states allow ballots to be dropped off days after Election Day. These are legal votes. And the counting doesn’t stop until the votes are all counted or a state hits their deadline being able to count, which again varies by state. This is basic election process that occurs every year. Republicans just seem to have forgot it this year.
    Why don’t you want to investigate Biden getting over 130,000 votes on a data dump?

    Seems like you’re totally all-in on potential fraud. I welcomed the Russian Collusion Hoax investigations because I knew it was bullshit, as the investigations proved.
    I mean I’m just a random internet poaster so not sure why my opinion matters. Also I really can’t follow all the rumors and theories at this point; sharpies, burning ballots, ballots in ditches, dead people voting, dogs voting, glitches, who can track all this. The 130k one seems important to you but I really have no idea. But just for shits and giggles, hypothetically if I was charge and I did know which theory you were referring to I’d say the same thing as before. Gather evidence, bring to a court, and present it to a judge. You do realize that trump team is doing this, right? So far they’re getting rejected from every court. This isn’t going to the SCOTUS people, the evidence is so flimsy at this point that it isn’t making it past the lowest courts.
    Even
    Sledog said:

    Especially interesting since they said they had stopped counting. And 132k Joe only ballots get added to the count.

    I don't get why you Trump fans are so concerned with this particular election. When Trump won I was pissed but didn't think it was "stolen."

    Every time a Democrat wins it's rigged? Is that just it?
    Are you really this stupid or do you really think we are

    Do better
    RoadTrip said:

    Hillary is an idiot. I'm happy to count all the votes. Most liberals hate Trumpers not Russians, because they know Trumpers elected him fair and square.

    I support working class politics not corporate and identity-based Dems.

    Well then you must really hate the RAT party now that or you're really old and are confused about what and who the modern day RAT party is.
    Trump had a chance to carry out infrastructure projects or otherwise try to improve the lives of working people but failed utterly. He showed no interest in policy instead fixating on the "wall" and other such gay priorities.

    Did Trump ever support workers? Don't remember hearing about that. He had a chance.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,145

    Hillary is an idiot. I'm happy to count all the votes. Most liberals hate Trumpers not Russians, because they know Trumpers elected him fair and square.

    I support working class politics not corporate and identity-based Dems.

    How about count all legal votes, and not those dumped at 4am after counts were supposedly halted?
    Again that’s just not how this works. Ballots that are perfectly legal, all rules followed and postmarked within the allowed timeframe, arrive at different times. There is no rule that says ballots that arrive after 12am, 2am, or whatever time you want to throw out are illegal. As long as the postmark is within the timeframe, a ballot can arrive after Election Day, as is often the case with overseas military ballots. This “4am ballot dump” is again a conspiracy theory. Ballots can arrive and be counted at 4am the day after Election Day. This of course varies by state, but some states allow ballots to be dropped off days after Election Day. These are legal votes. And the counting doesn’t stop until the votes are all counted or a state hits their deadline being able to count, which again varies by state. This is basic election process that occurs every year. Republicans just seem to have forgot it this year.
    Why don’t you want to investigate Biden getting over 130,000 votes on a data dump?

    Seems like you’re totally all-in on potential fraud. I welcomed the Russian Collusion Hoax investigations because I knew it was bullshit, as the investigations proved.
    I mean I’m just a random internet poaster so not sure why my opinion matters. Also I really can’t follow all the rumors and theories at this point; sharpies, burning ballots, ballots in ditches, dead people voting, dogs voting, glitches, who can track all this. The 130k one seems important to you but I really have no idea. But just for shits and giggles, hypothetically if I was charge and I did know which theory you were referring to I’d say the same thing as before. Gather evidence, bring to a court, and present it to a judge. You do realize that trump team is doing this, right? So far they’re getting rejected from every court. This isn’t going to the SCOTUS people, the evidence is so flimsy at this point that it isn’t making it past the lowest courts.
    Even
    Sledog said:

    Especially interesting since they said they had stopped counting. And 132k Joe only ballots get added to the count.

    I don't get why you Trump fans are so concerned with this particular election. When Trump won I was pissed but didn't think it was "stolen."

    Every time a Democrat wins it's rigged? Is that just it?
    Are you really this stupid or do you really think we are

    Do better
    RoadTrip said:

    Hillary is an idiot. I'm happy to count all the votes. Most liberals hate Trumpers not Russians, because they know Trumpers elected him fair and square.

    I support working class politics not corporate and identity-based Dems.

    Well then you must really hate the RAT party now that or you're really old and are confused about what and who the modern day RAT party is.
    Trump had a chance to carry out infrastructure projects or otherwise try to improve the lives of working people but failed utterly. He showed no interest in policy instead fixating on the "wall" and other such gay priorities.

    Did Trump ever support workers? Don't remember hearing about that. He had a chance.
    Having this conversation with you is worthless. Supporting workers you ask? Well the United States had the lowest unemployment in the history of the country up until the China virus hit; all time lows for African Americans, Latinos and Asians. Why do you think more of these minority groups voted for him, by a large margin, over any other repubicon ever? The average family of four took home several thousand more a year than under the 8 years of Obama. You didn't hear about it because you didn't want to believe it.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,568 Standard Supporter
    edited November 2020

    Hillary is an idiot. I'm happy to count all the votes. Most liberals hate Trumpers not Russians, because they know Trumpers elected him fair and square.

    I support working class politics not corporate and identity-based Dems.

    How about count all legal votes, and not those dumped at 4am after counts were supposedly halted?
    Again that’s just not how this works. Ballots that are perfectly legal, all rules followed and postmarked within the allowed timeframe, arrive at different times. There is no rule that says ballots that arrive after 12am, 2am, or whatever time you want to throw out are illegal. As long as the postmark is within the timeframe, a ballot can arrive after Election Day, as is often the case with overseas military ballots. This “4am ballot dump” is again a conspiracy theory. Ballots can arrive and be counted at 4am the day after Election Day. This of course varies by state, but some states allow ballots to be dropped off days after Election Day. These are legal votes. And the counting doesn’t stop until the votes are all counted or a state hits their deadline being able to count, which again varies by state. This is basic election process that occurs every year. Republicans just seem to have forgot it this year.
    Why don’t you want to investigate Biden getting over 130,000 votes on a data dump?

    Seems like you’re totally all-in on potential fraud. I welcomed the Russian Collusion Hoax investigations because I knew it was bullshit, as the investigations proved.
    I mean I’m just a random internet poaster so not sure why my opinion matters. Also I really can’t follow all the rumors and theories at this point; sharpies, burning ballots, ballots in ditches, dead people voting, dogs voting, glitches, who can track all this. The 130k one seems important to you but I really have no idea. But just for shits and giggles, hypothetically if I was charge and I did know which theory you were referring to I’d say the same thing as before. Gather evidence, bring to a court, and present it to a judge. You do realize that trump team is doing this, right? So far they’re getting rejected from every court. This isn’t going to the SCOTUS people, the evidence is so flimsy at this point that it isn’t making it past the lowest courts.
    Even
    Sledog said:

    Especially interesting since they said they had stopped counting. And 132k Joe only ballots get added to the count.

    I don't get why you Trump fans are so concerned with this particular election. When Trump won I was pissed but didn't think it was "stolen."

    Every time a Democrat wins it's rigged? Is that just it?
    Are you really this stupid or do you really think we are

    Do better
    RoadTrip said:

    Hillary is an idiot. I'm happy to count all the votes. Most liberals hate Trumpers not Russians, because they know Trumpers elected him fair and square.

    I support working class politics not corporate and identity-based Dems.

    Well then you must really hate the RAT party now that or you're really old and are confused about what and who the modern day RAT party is.
    Trump had a chance to carry out infrastructure projects or otherwise try to improve the lives of working people but failed utterly. He showed no interest in policy instead fixating on the "wall" and other such gay priorities.

    Did Trump ever support workers? Don't remember hearing about that. He had a chance.
    He blocked TPP on 1/21/2017. Most Dimocrats, including Obama were on board with any and every free trade deal for the past 30 years.

    He's not some labor friendly union guy, but yes, he was trying to help the American worker. Also, the wall helps US workers. It keeps illegals who will work for 60% of the wage out. Dimocrats used to actually promote these common sense ideas.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,534 Standard Supporter
    RoadTrip said:

    Hillary is an idiot. I'm happy to count all the votes. Most liberals hate Trumpers not Russians, because they know Trumpers elected him fair and square.

    I support working class politics not corporate and identity-based Dems.

    How about count all legal votes, and not those dumped at 4am after counts were supposedly halted?
    Again that’s just not how this works. Ballots that are perfectly legal, all rules followed and postmarked within the allowed timeframe, arrive at different times. There is no rule that says ballots that arrive after 12am, 2am, or whatever time you want to throw out are illegal. As long as the postmark is within the timeframe, a ballot can arrive after Election Day, as is often the case with overseas military ballots. This “4am ballot dump” is again a conspiracy theory. Ballots can arrive and be counted at 4am the day after Election Day. This of course varies by state, but some states allow ballots to be dropped off days after Election Day. These are legal votes. And the counting doesn’t stop until the votes are all counted or a state hits their deadline being able to count, which again varies by state. This is basic election process that occurs every year. Republicans just seem to have forgot it this year.
    Why don’t you want to investigate Biden getting over 130,000 votes on a data dump?

    Seems like you’re totally all-in on potential fraud. I welcomed the Russian Collusion Hoax investigations because I knew it was bullshit, as the investigations proved.
    I mean I’m just a random internet poaster so not sure why my opinion matters. Also I really can’t follow all the rumors and theories at this point; sharpies, burning ballots, ballots in ditches, dead people voting, dogs voting, glitches, who can track all this. The 130k one seems important to you but I really have no idea. But just for shits and giggles, hypothetically if I was charge and I did know which theory you were referring to I’d say the same thing as before. Gather evidence, bring to a court, and present it to a judge. You do realize that trump team is doing this, right? So far they’re getting rejected from every court. This isn’t going to the SCOTUS people, the evidence is so flimsy at this point that it isn’t making it past the lowest courts.
    Even
    Sledog said:

    Especially interesting since they said they had stopped counting. And 132k Joe only ballots get added to the count.

    I don't get why you Trump fans are so concerned with this particular election. When Trump won I was pissed but didn't think it was "stolen."

    Every time a Democrat wins it's rigged? Is that just it?
    Are you really this stupid or do you really think we are

    Do better
    RoadTrip said:

    Hillary is an idiot. I'm happy to count all the votes. Most liberals hate Trumpers not Russians, because they know Trumpers elected him fair and square.

    I support working class politics not corporate and identity-based Dems.

    Well then you must really hate the RAT party now that or you're really old and are confused about what and who the modern day RAT party is.
    Trump had a chance to carry out infrastructure projects or otherwise try to improve the lives of working people but failed utterly. He showed no interest in policy instead fixating on the "wall" and other such gay priorities.

    Did Trump ever support workers? Don't remember hearing about that. He had a chance.
    Having this conversation with you is worthless. Supporting workers you ask? Well the United States had the lowest unemployment in the history of the country up until the China virus hit; all time lows for African Americans, Latinos and Asians. Why do you think more of these minority groups voted for him, by a large margin, over any other repubicon ever? The average family of four took home several thousand more a year than under the 8 years of Obama. You didn't hear about it because you didn't want to believe it.
    Infrastructure projects like useless train projects from nowhere to nowhere? Useless light rail expansion that no one uses? How about some highway expansion and a new bridge over the Columbia paid for with gasoline taxes that aren't based on borrowing money from our grandkids. You dems just spent stimulus dollars on state and local government workers. The real workers that make the US work. Yeah, right.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    RoadTrip said:

    Hillary is an idiot. I'm happy to count all the votes. Most liberals hate Trumpers not Russians, because they know Trumpers elected him fair and square.

    I support working class politics not corporate and identity-based Dems.

    How about count all legal votes, and not those dumped at 4am after counts were supposedly halted?
    Again that’s just not how this works. Ballots that are perfectly legal, all rules followed and postmarked within the allowed timeframe, arrive at different times. There is no rule that says ballots that arrive after 12am, 2am, or whatever time you want to throw out are illegal. As long as the postmark is within the timeframe, a ballot can arrive after Election Day, as is often the case with overseas military ballots. This “4am ballot dump” is again a conspiracy theory. Ballots can arrive and be counted at 4am the day after Election Day. This of course varies by state, but some states allow ballots to be dropped off days after Election Day. These are legal votes. And the counting doesn’t stop until the votes are all counted or a state hits their deadline being able to count, which again varies by state. This is basic election process that occurs every year. Republicans just seem to have forgot it this year.
    Why don’t you want to investigate Biden getting over 130,000 votes on a data dump?

    Seems like you’re totally all-in on potential fraud. I welcomed the Russian Collusion Hoax investigations because I knew it was bullshit, as the investigations proved.
    I mean I’m just a random internet poaster so not sure why my opinion matters. Also I really can’t follow all the rumors and theories at this point; sharpies, burning ballots, ballots in ditches, dead people voting, dogs voting, glitches, who can track all this. The 130k one seems important to you but I really have no idea. But just for shits and giggles, hypothetically if I was charge and I did know which theory you were referring to I’d say the same thing as before. Gather evidence, bring to a court, and present it to a judge. You do realize that trump team is doing this, right? So far they’re getting rejected from every court. This isn’t going to the SCOTUS people, the evidence is so flimsy at this point that it isn’t making it past the lowest courts.
    Even
    Sledog said:

    Especially interesting since they said they had stopped counting. And 132k Joe only ballots get added to the count.

    I don't get why you Trump fans are so concerned with this particular election. When Trump won I was pissed but didn't think it was "stolen."

    Every time a Democrat wins it's rigged? Is that just it?
    Are you really this stupid or do you really think we are

    Do better
    RoadTrip said:

    Hillary is an idiot. I'm happy to count all the votes. Most liberals hate Trumpers not Russians, because they know Trumpers elected him fair and square.

    I support working class politics not corporate and identity-based Dems.

    Well then you must really hate the RAT party now that or you're really old and are confused about what and who the modern day RAT party is.
    Trump had a chance to carry out infrastructure projects or otherwise try to improve the lives of working people but failed utterly. He showed no interest in policy instead fixating on the "wall" and other such gay priorities.

    Did Trump ever support workers? Don't remember hearing about that. He had a chance.
    Having this conversation with you is worthless. Supporting workers you ask? Well the United States had the lowest unemployment in the history of the country up until the China virus hit; all time lows for African Americans, Latinos and Asians. Why do you think more of these minority groups voted for him, by a large margin, over any other repubicon ever? The average family of four took home several thousand more a year than under the 8 years of Obama. You didn't hear about it because you didn't want to believe it.
    His stance on illegal immigration also help to raise wages for low income workers for the first time in decades. Trump did more to help working class employees than any Rat President has done since LBJ.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072

    Hillary is an idiot. I'm happy to count all the votes. Most liberals hate Trumpers not Russians, because they know Trumpers elected him fair and square.

    I support working class politics not corporate and identity-based Dems.

    How about count all legal votes, and not those dumped at 4am after counts were supposedly halted?
    Again that’s just not how this works. Ballots that are perfectly legal, all rules followed and postmarked within the allowed timeframe, arrive at different times. There is no rule that says ballots that arrive after 12am, 2am, or whatever time you want to throw out are illegal. As long as the postmark is within the timeframe, a ballot can arrive after Election Day, as is often the case with overseas military ballots. This “4am ballot dump” is again a conspiracy theory. Ballots can arrive and be counted at 4am the day after Election Day. This of course varies by state, but some states allow ballots to be dropped off days after Election Day. These are legal votes. And the counting doesn’t stop until the votes are all counted or a state hits their deadline being able to count, which again varies by state. This is basic election process that occurs every year. Republicans just seem to have forgot it this year.
    Why don’t you want to investigate Biden getting over 130,000 votes on a data dump?

    Seems like you’re totally all-in on potential fraud. I welcomed the Russian Collusion Hoax investigations because I knew it was bullshit, as the investigations proved.
    I mean I’m just a random internet poaster so not sure why my opinion matters. Also I really can’t follow all the rumors and theories at this point; sharpies, burning ballots, ballots in ditches, dead people voting, dogs voting, glitches, who can track all this. The 130k one seems important to you but I really have no idea. But just for shits and giggles, hypothetically if I was charge and I did know which theory you were referring to I’d say the same thing as before. Gather evidence, bring to a court, and present it to a judge. You do realize that trump team is doing this, right? So far they’re getting rejected from every court. This isn’t going to the SCOTUS people, the evidence is so flimsy at this point that it isn’t making it past the lowest courts.
    Even
    Sledog said:

    Especially interesting since they said they had stopped counting. And 132k Joe only ballots get added to the count.

    I don't get why you Trump fans are so concerned with this particular election. When Trump won I was pissed but didn't think it was "stolen."

    Every time a Democrat wins it's rigged? Is that just it?
    Are you really this stupid or do you really think we are

    Do better
    RoadTrip said:

    Hillary is an idiot. I'm happy to count all the votes. Most liberals hate Trumpers not Russians, because they know Trumpers elected him fair and square.

    I support working class politics not corporate and identity-based Dems.

    Well then you must really hate the RAT party now that or you're really old and are confused about what and who the modern day RAT party is.
    Trump had a chance to carry out infrastructure projects or otherwise try to improve the lives of working people but failed utterly. He showed no interest in policy instead fixating on the "wall" and other such gay priorities.

    Did Trump ever support workers? Don't remember hearing about that. He had a chance.
    Name the Infrastructure projects Trump supported Nancy was prepared to fund.

    I’ll wait
  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,777
    doogie said:

    Hillary is an idiot. I'm happy to count all the votes. Most liberals hate Trumpers not Russians, because they know Trumpers elected him fair and square.

    I support working class politics not corporate and identity-based Dems.

    How about count all legal votes, and not those dumped at 4am after counts were supposedly halted?
    Again that’s just not how this works. Ballots that are perfectly legal, all rules followed and postmarked within the allowed timeframe, arrive at different times. There is no rule that says ballots that arrive after 12am, 2am, or whatever time you want to throw out are illegal. As long as the postmark is within the timeframe, a ballot can arrive after Election Day, as is often the case with overseas military ballots. This “4am ballot dump” is again a conspiracy theory. Ballots can arrive and be counted at 4am the day after Election Day. This of course varies by state, but some states allow ballots to be dropped off days after Election Day. These are legal votes. And the counting doesn’t stop until the votes are all counted or a state hits their deadline being able to count, which again varies by state. This is basic election process that occurs every year. Republicans just seem to have forgot it this year.
    Why don’t you want to investigate Biden getting over 130,000 votes on a data dump?

    Seems like you’re totally all-in on potential fraud. I welcomed the Russian Collusion Hoax investigations because I knew it was bullshit, as the investigations proved.
    I mean I’m just a random internet poaster so not sure why my opinion matters. Also I really can’t follow all the rumors and theories at this point; sharpies, burning ballots, ballots in ditches, dead people voting, dogs voting, glitches, who can track all this. The 130k one seems important to you but I really have no idea. But just for shits and giggles, hypothetically if I was charge and I did know which theory you were referring to I’d say the same thing as before. Gather evidence, bring to a court, and present it to a judge. You do realize that trump team is doing this, right? So far they’re getting rejected from every court. This isn’t going to the SCOTUS people, the evidence is so flimsy at this point that it isn’t making it past the lowest courts.
    Even
    Sledog said:

    Especially interesting since they said they had stopped counting. And 132k Joe only ballots get added to the count.

    I don't get why you Trump fans are so concerned with this particular election. When Trump won I was pissed but didn't think it was "stolen."

    Every time a Democrat wins it's rigged? Is that just it?
    Are you really this stupid or do you really think we are

    Do better
    RoadTrip said:

    Hillary is an idiot. I'm happy to count all the votes. Most liberals hate Trumpers not Russians, because they know Trumpers elected him fair and square.

    I support working class politics not corporate and identity-based Dems.

    Well then you must really hate the RAT party now that or you're really old and are confused about what and who the modern day RAT party is.
    Trump had a chance to carry out infrastructure projects or otherwise try to improve the lives of working people but failed utterly. He showed no interest in policy instead fixating on the "wall" and other such gay priorities.

    Did Trump ever support workers? Don't remember hearing about that. He had a chance.
    Name the Infrastructure projects Trump supported Nancy was prepared to fund.

    I’ll wait
    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/520703-wisconsin-says-foxconn-factory-touted-by-trump-has-failed-to-deliver-on

    Wake up fucko.

    Trump was literally promising to "bring back" manufacturing jobs (not that I believed him). Some voters in Mich., WI, and Pennnsylvania noticed too.
  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,777
    SFGbob said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Hillary is an idiot. I'm happy to count all the votes. Most liberals hate Trumpers not Russians, because they know Trumpers elected him fair and square.

    I support working class politics not corporate and identity-based Dems.

    How about count all legal votes, and not those dumped at 4am after counts were supposedly halted?
    Again that’s just not how this works. Ballots that are perfectly legal, all rules followed and postmarked within the allowed timeframe, arrive at different times. There is no rule that says ballots that arrive after 12am, 2am, or whatever time you want to throw out are illegal. As long as the postmark is within the timeframe, a ballot can arrive after Election Day, as is often the case with overseas military ballots. This “4am ballot dump” is again a conspiracy theory. Ballots can arrive and be counted at 4am the day after Election Day. This of course varies by state, but some states allow ballots to be dropped off days after Election Day. These are legal votes. And the counting doesn’t stop until the votes are all counted or a state hits their deadline being able to count, which again varies by state. This is basic election process that occurs every year. Republicans just seem to have forgot it this year.
    Why don’t you want to investigate Biden getting over 130,000 votes on a data dump?

    Seems like you’re totally all-in on potential fraud. I welcomed the Russian Collusion Hoax investigations because I knew it was bullshit, as the investigations proved.
    I mean I’m just a random internet poaster so not sure why my opinion matters. Also I really can’t follow all the rumors and theories at this point; sharpies, burning ballots, ballots in ditches, dead people voting, dogs voting, glitches, who can track all this. The 130k one seems important to you but I really have no idea. But just for shits and giggles, hypothetically if I was charge and I did know which theory you were referring to I’d say the same thing as before. Gather evidence, bring to a court, and present it to a judge. You do realize that trump team is doing this, right? So far they’re getting rejected from every court. This isn’t going to the SCOTUS people, the evidence is so flimsy at this point that it isn’t making it past the lowest courts.
    Even
    Sledog said:

    Especially interesting since they said they had stopped counting. And 132k Joe only ballots get added to the count.

    I don't get why you Trump fans are so concerned with this particular election. When Trump won I was pissed but didn't think it was "stolen."

    Every time a Democrat wins it's rigged? Is that just it?
    Are you really this stupid or do you really think we are

    Do better
    RoadTrip said:

    Hillary is an idiot. I'm happy to count all the votes. Most liberals hate Trumpers not Russians, because they know Trumpers elected him fair and square.

    I support working class politics not corporate and identity-based Dems.

    Well then you must really hate the RAT party now that or you're really old and are confused about what and who the modern day RAT party is.
    Trump had a chance to carry out infrastructure projects or otherwise try to improve the lives of working people but failed utterly. He showed no interest in policy instead fixating on the "wall" and other such gay priorities.

    Did Trump ever support workers? Don't remember hearing about that. He had a chance.
    Having this conversation with you is worthless. Supporting workers you ask? Well the United States had the lowest unemployment in the history of the country up until the China virus hit; all time lows for African Americans, Latinos and Asians. Why do you think more of these minority groups voted for him, by a large margin, over any other repubicon ever? The average family of four took home several thousand more a year than under the 8 years of Obama. You didn't hear about it because you didn't want to believe it.
    His stance on illegal immigration also help to raise wages for low income workers for the first time in decades. Trump did more to help working class employees than any Rat President has done since LBJ.
    Every president since FDR has sucked in terms of helping working people, what's your point?
  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,777

    RoadTrip said:

    Hillary is an idiot. I'm happy to count all the votes. Most liberals hate Trumpers not Russians, because they know Trumpers elected him fair and square.

    I support working class politics not corporate and identity-based Dems.

    How about count all legal votes, and not those dumped at 4am after counts were supposedly halted?
    Again that’s just not how this works. Ballots that are perfectly legal, all rules followed and postmarked within the allowed timeframe, arrive at different times. There is no rule that says ballots that arrive after 12am, 2am, or whatever time you want to throw out are illegal. As long as the postmark is within the timeframe, a ballot can arrive after Election Day, as is often the case with overseas military ballots. This “4am ballot dump” is again a conspiracy theory. Ballots can arrive and be counted at 4am the day after Election Day. This of course varies by state, but some states allow ballots to be dropped off days after Election Day. These are legal votes. And the counting doesn’t stop until the votes are all counted or a state hits their deadline being able to count, which again varies by state. This is basic election process that occurs every year. Republicans just seem to have forgot it this year.
    Why don’t you want to investigate Biden getting over 130,000 votes on a data dump?

    Seems like you’re totally all-in on potential fraud. I welcomed the Russian Collusion Hoax investigations because I knew it was bullshit, as the investigations proved.
    I mean I’m just a random internet poaster so not sure why my opinion matters. Also I really can’t follow all the rumors and theories at this point; sharpies, burning ballots, ballots in ditches, dead people voting, dogs voting, glitches, who can track all this. The 130k one seems important to you but I really have no idea. But just for shits and giggles, hypothetically if I was charge and I did know which theory you were referring to I’d say the same thing as before. Gather evidence, bring to a court, and present it to a judge. You do realize that trump team is doing this, right? So far they’re getting rejected from every court. This isn’t going to the SCOTUS people, the evidence is so flimsy at this point that it isn’t making it past the lowest courts.
    Even
    Sledog said:

    Especially interesting since they said they had stopped counting. And 132k Joe only ballots get added to the count.

    I don't get why you Trump fans are so concerned with this particular election. When Trump won I was pissed but didn't think it was "stolen."

    Every time a Democrat wins it's rigged? Is that just it?
    Are you really this stupid or do you really think we are

    Do better
    RoadTrip said:

    Hillary is an idiot. I'm happy to count all the votes. Most liberals hate Trumpers not Russians, because they know Trumpers elected him fair and square.

    I support working class politics not corporate and identity-based Dems.

    Well then you must really hate the RAT party now that or you're really old and are confused about what and who the modern day RAT party is.
    Trump had a chance to carry out infrastructure projects or otherwise try to improve the lives of working people but failed utterly. He showed no interest in policy instead fixating on the "wall" and other such gay priorities.

    Did Trump ever support workers? Don't remember hearing about that. He had a chance.
    Having this conversation with you is worthless. Supporting workers you ask? Well the United States had the lowest unemployment in the history of the country up until the China virus hit; all time lows for African Americans, Latinos and Asians. Why do you think more of these minority groups voted for him, by a large margin, over any other repubicon ever? The average family of four took home several thousand more a year than under the 8 years of Obama. You didn't hear about it because you didn't want to believe it.
    Infrastructure projects like useless train projects from nowhere to nowhere? Useless light rail expansion that no one uses? How about some highway expansion and a new bridge over the Columbia paid for with gasoline taxes that aren't based on borrowing money from our grandkids. You dems just spent stimulus dollars on state and local government workers. The real workers that make the US work. Yeah, right.
    You sound more like an establishment (free market) Republican than a Trump fan. Trump ran as a nationalist who would use government policies to put people to work. Trade policy and infrastructure.

  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,534 Standard Supporter
    Trump ran on the fact the free trade was not fair trade. Chicoms were and are stealing our intellectual property. Americans were being excluded from foreign markets through tariffs and foreign goverment regulations which didn't apply to foreign companies seeking access to our markets. Our US courts would enforce foreign patent rights against US companies. In China, good luck getting any serious recovery from Chinese courts. So, no, I'm not a traditional phuck American business man. Imagine wanting the US to have fair trade with the chicoms. Almost like Hitler. Keep rooting for the away team.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited November 2020

    SFGbob said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Hillary is an idiot. I'm happy to count all the votes. Most liberals hate Trumpers not Russians, because they know Trumpers elected him fair and square.

    I support working class politics not corporate and identity-based Dems.

    How about count all legal votes, and not those dumped at 4am after counts were supposedly halted?
    Again that’s just not how this works. Ballots that are perfectly legal, all rules followed and postmarked within the allowed timeframe, arrive at different times. There is no rule that says ballots that arrive after 12am, 2am, or whatever time you want to throw out are illegal. As long as the postmark is within the timeframe, a ballot can arrive after Election Day, as is often the case with overseas military ballots. This “4am ballot dump” is again a conspiracy theory. Ballots can arrive and be counted at 4am the day after Election Day. This of course varies by state, but some states allow ballots to be dropped off days after Election Day. These are legal votes. And the counting doesn’t stop until the votes are all counted or a state hits their deadline being able to count, which again varies by state. This is basic election process that occurs every year. Republicans just seem to have forgot it this year.
    Why don’t you want to investigate Biden getting over 130,000 votes on a data dump?

    Seems like you’re totally all-in on potential fraud. I welcomed the Russian Collusion Hoax investigations because I knew it was bullshit, as the investigations proved.
    I mean I’m just a random internet poaster so not sure why my opinion matters. Also I really can’t follow all the rumors and theories at this point; sharpies, burning ballots, ballots in ditches, dead people voting, dogs voting, glitches, who can track all this. The 130k one seems important to you but I really have no idea. But just for shits and giggles, hypothetically if I was charge and I did know which theory you were referring to I’d say the same thing as before. Gather evidence, bring to a court, and present it to a judge. You do realize that trump team is doing this, right? So far they’re getting rejected from every court. This isn’t going to the SCOTUS people, the evidence is so flimsy at this point that it isn’t making it past the lowest courts.
    Even
    Sledog said:

    Especially interesting since they said they had stopped counting. And 132k Joe only ballots get added to the count.

    I don't get why you Trump fans are so concerned with this particular election. When Trump won I was pissed but didn't think it was "stolen."

    Every time a Democrat wins it's rigged? Is that just it?
    Are you really this stupid or do you really think we are

    Do better
    RoadTrip said:

    Hillary is an idiot. I'm happy to count all the votes. Most liberals hate Trumpers not Russians, because they know Trumpers elected him fair and square.

    I support working class politics not corporate and identity-based Dems.

    Well then you must really hate the RAT party now that or you're really old and are confused about what and who the modern day RAT party is.
    Trump had a chance to carry out infrastructure projects or otherwise try to improve the lives of working people but failed utterly. He showed no interest in policy instead fixating on the "wall" and other such gay priorities.

    Did Trump ever support workers? Don't remember hearing about that. He had a chance.
    Having this conversation with you is worthless. Supporting workers you ask? Well the United States had the lowest unemployment in the history of the country up until the China virus hit; all time lows for African Americans, Latinos and Asians. Why do you think more of these minority groups voted for him, by a large margin, over any other repubicon ever? The average family of four took home several thousand more a year than under the 8 years of Obama. You didn't hear about it because you didn't want to believe it.
    His stance on illegal immigration also help to raise wages for low income workers for the first time in decades. Trump did more to help working class employees than any Rat President has done since LBJ.
    Every president since FDR has sucked in terms of helping working people, what's your point?
    The only thing worse than a liberal with a big mouth are fucking liberals who can't even keep track of the bullshit that leaves their own mouths.


    You said the following:

    Trump had a chance to carry out infrastructure projects or otherwise try to improve the lives of working people but failed utterly. He showed no interest in policy instead fixating on the "wall" and other such gay priorities.

    I gave you a "policy": cutting illegal immigration, that did help working people. The "point" is that you're either a liar or moron. Your response didn't even address what I said. All it did was give you another opportunity to run your mouth.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016

    RoadTrip said:

    Hillary is an idiot. I'm happy to count all the votes. Most liberals hate Trumpers not Russians, because they know Trumpers elected him fair and square.

    I support working class politics not corporate and identity-based Dems.

    How about count all legal votes, and not those dumped at 4am after counts were supposedly halted?
    Again that’s just not how this works. Ballots that are perfectly legal, all rules followed and postmarked within the allowed timeframe, arrive at different times. There is no rule that says ballots that arrive after 12am, 2am, or whatever time you want to throw out are illegal. As long as the postmark is within the timeframe, a ballot can arrive after Election Day, as is often the case with overseas military ballots. This “4am ballot dump” is again a conspiracy theory. Ballots can arrive and be counted at 4am the day after Election Day. This of course varies by state, but some states allow ballots to be dropped off days after Election Day. These are legal votes. And the counting doesn’t stop until the votes are all counted or a state hits their deadline being able to count, which again varies by state. This is basic election process that occurs every year. Republicans just seem to have forgot it this year.
    Why don’t you want to investigate Biden getting over 130,000 votes on a data dump?

    Seems like you’re totally all-in on potential fraud. I welcomed the Russian Collusion Hoax investigations because I knew it was bullshit, as the investigations proved.
    I mean I’m just a random internet poaster so not sure why my opinion matters. Also I really can’t follow all the rumors and theories at this point; sharpies, burning ballots, ballots in ditches, dead people voting, dogs voting, glitches, who can track all this. The 130k one seems important to you but I really have no idea. But just for shits and giggles, hypothetically if I was charge and I did know which theory you were referring to I’d say the same thing as before. Gather evidence, bring to a court, and present it to a judge. You do realize that trump team is doing this, right? So far they’re getting rejected from every court. This isn’t going to the SCOTUS people, the evidence is so flimsy at this point that it isn’t making it past the lowest courts.
    Even
    Sledog said:

    Especially interesting since they said they had stopped counting. And 132k Joe only ballots get added to the count.

    I don't get why you Trump fans are so concerned with this particular election. When Trump won I was pissed but didn't think it was "stolen."

    Every time a Democrat wins it's rigged? Is that just it?
    Are you really this stupid or do you really think we are

    Do better
    RoadTrip said:

    Hillary is an idiot. I'm happy to count all the votes. Most liberals hate Trumpers not Russians, because they know Trumpers elected him fair and square.

    I support working class politics not corporate and identity-based Dems.

    Well then you must really hate the RAT party now that or you're really old and are confused about what and who the modern day RAT party is.
    Trump had a chance to carry out infrastructure projects or otherwise try to improve the lives of working people but failed utterly. He showed no interest in policy instead fixating on the "wall" and other such gay priorities.

    Did Trump ever support workers? Don't remember hearing about that. He had a chance.
    Having this conversation with you is worthless. Supporting workers you ask? Well the United States had the lowest unemployment in the history of the country up until the China virus hit; all time lows for African Americans, Latinos and Asians. Why do you think more of these minority groups voted for him, by a large margin, over any other repubicon ever? The average family of four took home several thousand more a year than under the 8 years of Obama. You didn't hear about it because you didn't want to believe it.
    Infrastructure projects like useless train projects from nowhere to nowhere? Useless light rail expansion that no one uses? How about some highway expansion and a new bridge over the Columbia paid for with gasoline taxes that aren't based on borrowing money from our grandkids. You dems just spent stimulus dollars on state and local government workers. The real workers that make the US work. Yeah, right.
    You sound more like an establishment (free market) Republican than a Trump fan. Trump ran as a nationalist who would use government policies to put people to work. Trade policy and infrastructure.

    You are incorrect. Stick around and get a feel for the place.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,005
    edited November 2020

    SFGbob said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Hillary is an idiot. I'm happy to count all the votes. Most liberals hate Trumpers not Russians, because they know Trumpers elected him fair and square.

    I support working class politics not corporate and identity-based Dems.

    How about count all legal votes, and not those dumped at 4am after counts were supposedly halted?
    Again that’s just not how this works. Ballots that are perfectly legal, all rules followed and postmarked within the allowed timeframe, arrive at different times. There is no rule that says ballots that arrive after 12am, 2am, or whatever time you want to throw out are illegal. As long as the postmark is within the timeframe, a ballot can arrive after Election Day, as is often the case with overseas military ballots. This “4am ballot dump” is again a conspiracy theory. Ballots can arrive and be counted at 4am the day after Election Day. This of course varies by state, but some states allow ballots to be dropped off days after Election Day. These are legal votes. And the counting doesn’t stop until the votes are all counted or a state hits their deadline being able to count, which again varies by state. This is basic election process that occurs every year. Republicans just seem to have forgot it this year.
    Why don’t you want to investigate Biden getting over 130,000 votes on a data dump?

    Seems like you’re totally all-in on potential fraud. I welcomed the Russian Collusion Hoax investigations because I knew it was bullshit, as the investigations proved.
    I mean I’m just a random internet poaster so not sure why my opinion matters. Also I really can’t follow all the rumors and theories at this point; sharpies, burning ballots, ballots in ditches, dead people voting, dogs voting, glitches, who can track all this. The 130k one seems important to you but I really have no idea. But just for shits and giggles, hypothetically if I was charge and I did know which theory you were referring to I’d say the same thing as before. Gather evidence, bring to a court, and present it to a judge. You do realize that trump team is doing this, right? So far they’re getting rejected from every court. This isn’t going to the SCOTUS people, the evidence is so flimsy at this point that it isn’t making it past the lowest courts.
    Even
    Sledog said:

    Especially interesting since they said they had stopped counting. And 132k Joe only ballots get added to the count.

    I don't get why you Trump fans are so concerned with this particular election. When Trump won I was pissed but didn't think it was "stolen."

    Every time a Democrat wins it's rigged? Is that just it?
    Are you really this stupid or do you really think we are

    Do better
    RoadTrip said:

    Hillary is an idiot. I'm happy to count all the votes. Most liberals hate Trumpers not Russians, because they know Trumpers elected him fair and square.

    I support working class politics not corporate and identity-based Dems.

    Well then you must really hate the RAT party now that or you're really old and are confused about what and who the modern day RAT party is.
    Trump had a chance to carry out infrastructure projects or otherwise try to improve the lives of working people but failed utterly. He showed no interest in policy instead fixating on the "wall" and other such gay priorities.

    Did Trump ever support workers? Don't remember hearing about that. He had a chance.
    Having this conversation with you is worthless. Supporting workers you ask? Well the United States had the lowest unemployment in the history of the country up until the China virus hit; all time lows for African Americans, Latinos and Asians. Why do you think more of these minority groups voted for him, by a large margin, over any other repubicon ever? The average family of four took home several thousand more a year than under the 8 years of Obama. You didn't hear about it because you didn't want to believe it.
    His stance on illegal immigration also help to raise wages for low income workers for the first time in decades. Trump did more to help working class employees than any Rat President has done since LBJ.
    Every president since FDR has sucked in terms of helping working people, what's your point?


    Ike we say, fuck off.

    Churchill did more than FDR to help the American working people.

    Hell, Tojo did more to help the American working people than FDR if you really want to know who got the ball rolling.




  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    RoadTrip said:

    Swaye said:

    That was epic. Takedown on voter fraud, big tech, and pollsters, and how ALL of it conspired to flip this election. And it's unassailable. Which means the usual useful idiots will be here soon to tell us these facts aren't really facts because you know, reasons. And Trump bad. And other stuff!

    2020 is the biggest sham in the history of shams.

    2015.5 - 2020 has been the biggest sham in the history of shams.

    RATs 2016
    "Russia rigged our election."

    RATs 2020
    "It's impossible to rig an election."
    Yeah, I've never met anyone who actually thinks Russians messed with the ballots. The questions were to do with Russian "disinformation" on social media. MSNBC took the whole thing too far, much like right wing media is doing right now.

    Hillary is an idiot. I'm happy to count all the votes. Most liberals hate Trumpers not Russians, because they know Trumpers elected him fair and square.

    I support working class politics not corporate and identity-based Dems.

    How about count all legal votes, and not those dumped at 4am after counts were supposedly halted?

  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072

    doogie said:

    Hillary is an idiot. I'm happy to count all the votes. Most liberals hate Trumpers not Russians, because they know Trumpers elected him fair and square.

    I support working class politics not corporate and identity-based Dems.

    How about count all legal votes, and not those dumped at 4am after counts were supposedly halted?
    Again that’s just not how this works. Ballots that are perfectly legal, all rules followed and postmarked within the allowed timeframe, arrive at different times. There is no rule that says ballots that arrive after 12am, 2am, or whatever time you want to throw out are illegal. As long as the postmark is within the timeframe, a ballot can arrive after Election Day, as is often the case with overseas military ballots. This “4am ballot dump” is again a conspiracy theory. Ballots can arrive and be counted at 4am the day after Election Day. This of course varies by state, but some states allow ballots to be dropped off days after Election Day. These are legal votes. And the counting doesn’t stop until the votes are all counted or a state hits their deadline being able to count, which again varies by state. This is basic election process that occurs every year. Republicans just seem to have forgot it this year.
    Why don’t you want to investigate Biden getting over 130,000 votes on a data dump?

    Seems like you’re totally all-in on potential fraud. I welcomed the Russian Collusion Hoax investigations because I knew it was bullshit, as the investigations proved.
    I mean I’m just a random internet poaster so not sure why my opinion matters. Also I really can’t follow all the rumors and theories at this point; sharpies, burning ballots, ballots in ditches, dead people voting, dogs voting, glitches, who can track all this. The 130k one seems important to you but I really have no idea. But just for shits and giggles, hypothetically if I was charge and I did know which theory you were referring to I’d say the same thing as before. Gather evidence, bring to a court, and present it to a judge. You do realize that trump team is doing this, right? So far they’re getting rejected from every court. This isn’t going to the SCOTUS people, the evidence is so flimsy at this point that it isn’t making it past the lowest courts.
    Even
    Sledog said:

    Especially interesting since they said they had stopped counting. And 132k Joe only ballots get added to the count.

    I don't get why you Trump fans are so concerned with this particular election. When Trump won I was pissed but didn't think it was "stolen."

    Every time a Democrat wins it's rigged? Is that just it?
    Are you really this stupid or do you really think we are

    Do better
    RoadTrip said:

    Hillary is an idiot. I'm happy to count all the votes. Most liberals hate Trumpers not Russians, because they know Trumpers elected him fair and square.

    I support working class politics not corporate and identity-based Dems.

    Well then you must really hate the RAT party now that or you're really old and are confused about what and who the modern day RAT party is.
    Trump had a chance to carry out infrastructure projects or otherwise try to improve the lives of working people but failed utterly. He showed no interest in policy instead fixating on the "wall" and other such gay priorities.

    Did Trump ever support workers? Don't remember hearing about that. He had a chance.
    Name the Infrastructure projects Trump supported Nancy was prepared to fund.

    I’ll wait
    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/520703-wisconsin-says-foxconn-factory-touted-by-trump-has-failed-to-deliver-on

    Wake up fucko.

    Trump was literally promising to "bring back" manufacturing jobs (not that I believed him). Some voters in Mich., WI, and Pennnsylvania noticed too.
    You were shaking and about to vomit regarding the infrastructure projects Trump wanted that Pelosi refused to fund.

    I simply asked for a few.