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  • Dardanus said:

    CollegeDoog:

    First of all, you are reading into the preview clip way too far. Reality TV is fake. It's almost always loosely scripted, and sometimes it is completely scripted. The producers can edit that shit any way they want, and the trailer is going to be filled with some of the worst stuff because controversy sells. Some 9 and 10 year old kids cry when they get hit too hard. Kids cry and say they can't do it when they get really tired during conditioning. It's nothing unique.

    I would estimate the majority of these of these kids dream of becoming a star player for their high school and playing at Texas or A&M. Working hard is the price you pay to do that. If these kids don't want to do it, they will fall behind the kids that are willing. I don't agree about all the methods and I doubt anyone would disagree that some youth coaches and parents can be psycho's, but there is some good in teaching kids if you want something, you have to work really hard and pay the price. Life is rarely easy, which is something that is obvious you don't understand yet. Hard work for you is studying all night for a really tough chemistry test.

    The crap about these kids being scarred for life by these coaches is bullshit. They are more likely to laugh over beers about it when reminiscing once they get older than being scarred by it. I doubt many kids, even the ones with shitty experiences are affected long term by stuff that happened during youth sports. Kids get scarred by not getting love, being ignored, getting beaten, sexual abuse. Getting yelled at or having a dad that was too tough on you during athletics is probably very low on the list.

    While I agree with you about the best coaches being teachers, there's nothing wrong with yelling. No kid ever needs a fire lit under him? I've seen it work with some kids, and even myself. Some kids can take it, others can't. The best coaches know how to push the right buttons for different kids.

    My point still stands that there are better and more constructive ways to coach youth sports.

    Is this your point? I ask because it seems like there are multiple points you're trying to make in this thread.
    Faux tough guy dumbass coaches suck. Youth sports dads suck.




  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Dardanus said:

    CollegeDoog:

    First of all, you are reading into the preview clip way too far. Reality TV is fake. It's almost always loosely scripted, and sometimes it is completely scripted. The producers can edit that shit any way they want, and the trailer is going to be filled with some of the worst stuff because controversy sells. Some 9 and 10 year old kids cry when they get hit too hard. Kids cry and say they can't do it when they get really tired during conditioning. It's nothing unique.

    I would estimate the majority of these of these kids dream of becoming a star player for their high school and playing at Texas or A&M. Working hard is the price you pay to do that. If these kids don't want to do it, they will fall behind the kids that are willing. I don't agree about all the methods and I doubt anyone would disagree that some youth coaches and parents can be psycho's, but there is some good in teaching kids if you want something, you have to work really hard and pay the price. Life is rarely easy, which is something that is obvious you don't understand yet. Hard work for you is studying all night for a really tough chemistry test.

    The crap about these kids being scarred for life by these coaches is bullshit. They are more likely to laugh over beers about it when reminiscing once they get older than being scarred by it. I doubt many kids, even the ones with shitty experiences are affected long term by stuff that happened during youth sports. Kids get scarred by not getting love, being ignored, getting beaten, sexual abuse. Getting yelled at or having a dad that was too tough on you during athletics is probably very low on the list.

    While I agree with you about the best coaches being teachers, there's nothing wrong with yelling. No kid ever needs a fire lit under him? I've seen it work with some kids, and even myself. Some kids can take it, others can't. The best coaches know how to push the right buttons for different kids.

    My point still stands that there are better and more constructive ways to coach youth sports.

    Is this your point? I ask because it seems like there are multiple points you're trying to make in this thread.
    Faux tough guy dumbass coaches suck. Youth sports dads suck.




    You could have just said that.
  • DardanusDardanus Member Posts: 2,623

    Dardanus said:

    CollegeDoog:

    First of all, you are reading into the preview clip way too far. Reality TV is fake. It's almost always loosely scripted, and sometimes it is completely scripted. The producers can edit that shit any way they want, and the trailer is going to be filled with some of the worst stuff because controversy sells. Some 9 and 10 year old kids cry when they get hit too hard. Kids cry and say they can't do it when they get really tired during conditioning. It's nothing unique.

    I would estimate the majority of these of these kids dream of becoming a star player for their high school and playing at Texas or A&M. Working hard is the price you pay to do that. If these kids don't want to do it, they will fall behind the kids that are willing. I don't agree about all the methods and I doubt anyone would disagree that some youth coaches and parents can be psycho's, but there is some good in teaching kids if you want something, you have to work really hard and pay the price. Life is rarely easy, which is something that is obvious you don't understand yet. Hard work for you is studying all night for a really tough chemistry test.

    The crap about these kids being scarred for life by these coaches is bullshit. They are more likely to laugh over beers about it when reminiscing once they get older than being scarred by it. I doubt many kids, even the ones with shitty experiences are affected long term by stuff that happened during youth sports. Kids get scarred by not getting love, being ignored, getting beaten, sexual abuse. Getting yelled at or having a dad that was too tough on you during athletics is probably very low on the list.

    While I agree with you about the best coaches being teachers, there's nothing wrong with yelling. No kid ever needs a fire lit under him? I've seen it work with some kids, and even myself. Some kids can take it, others can't. The best coaches know how to push the right buttons for different kids.

    My point still stands that there are better and more constructive ways to coach youth sports.

    Is this your point? I ask because it seems like there are multiple points you're trying to make in this thread.
    Faux tough guy dumbass coaches suck. Youth sports dads suck.




    Agreee, but parents can be encouraging and motivational without being Marv Marinovich. Sometimes kids need to be pushed more than they'd like.

    Coaches can motivate, sometimes by yelling, and still be effective teachers. There's a difference between motivating for the benefit of the kid and yelling to inflate the coach's ego. Good coaches know this difference.
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