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    PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,497
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    PurpleJ said:

    That poll needed an option for The Field badly. I'll take either of the remaining AFC quarterbacks.

    Not either... just Brady.
    Peyton isn't choking this year. He knows it might be his last chance.
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    That poll needed an option for The Field badly. I'll take either of the remaining AFC quarterbacks.

    Not either... just Brady.
    Peyton isn't choking this year. He knows it might be his last chance.
    So your argument is that the guy who sucks under pressure is going to rise to the occasion when there's more pressure than ever before?

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    PassionPassion Member Posts: 4,622
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    Pete Carroll is the head coach and in a windstorm when your defense is playing great he's not going to let Bevell go all Sarktarded. Of course it was conservative. They won too.

    The offense has been sputtering for a month. Wilson was Locker-inaccurate on Saturday on those slant routes.
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    PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,497
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    dnc said:

    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    That poll needed an option for The Field badly. I'll take either of the remaining AFC quarterbacks.

    Not either... just Brady.
    Peyton isn't choking this year. He knows it might be his last chance.
    So your argument is that the guy who sucks under pressure is going to rise to the occasion when there's more pressure than ever before?

    Yes, and it helps when you are playing at home with two good running backs.
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    BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,333
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    Pete Carroll is the head coach and in a windstorm when your defense is playing great he's not going to let Bevell go all Sarktarded. Of course it was conservative. They won too.

    Race does it again!
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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    Bob_C said:

    People blaming the OC is kind of a cop out IMO. Just guessing, but I'd imagine that the play calling hasn't changed all that much over the course of the season. All the plays when they were made were outside of the regular offense anyways, Wilson just isn't making them as frequently as he once did.

    This is the NFL. If you aren't evolving as the season goes on, you're falling behind.

    That's on the coaches.
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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    That poll needed an option for The Field badly. I'll take either of the remaining AFC quarterbacks.

    Not either... just Brady.
    Peyton isn't choking this year. He knows it might be his last chance.
    Wake me when Peyton does something more than survive against a team that needed a metric shitton of luck just to make the playoffs.
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    Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,898
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    Bob_C said:

    People blaming the OC is kind of a cop out IMO. Just guessing, but I'd imagine that the play calling hasn't changed all that much over the course of the season. All the plays when they were made were outside of the regular offense anyways, Wilson just isn't making them as frequently as he once did.

    This is the NFL. If you aren't evolving as the season goes on, you're falling behind.

    That's on the coaches.
    Agree to a certain extent... But the difference here is that Wilson has never really made a lot of plays or great throws within the general framework of the offense. It's always been after things breakdown.

    When he stops making the improvised plays like he has it shines a light on the roach of an offense that is Seattle.

    So Bevell is exactly who is has been from the beginning, and was on Minnesota, a pretty average or below average coordinator. The only variable that has seemingly change is Wilson not making as many plays on the move.

    Wilson was kind of always this shitty in the pocket, just like everyone thought he was going to be. It's the other stuff not happening though that is what is going to cost them.

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    PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,497
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    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    That poll needed an option for The Field badly. I'll take either of the remaining AFC quarterbacks.

    Not either... just Brady.
    Peyton isn't choking this year. He knows it might be his last chance.
    Wake me when Peyton does something more than survive against a team that needed a metric shitton of luck just to make the playoffs.
    You need to see another championship?
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    Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,898
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    He probably should have won like 3 in that 2005 - 2008 window. Indy had homefield like 3 times and lost to some pretty mediocre teams at home.
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    doogsinparadisedoogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
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    Passion said:

    They're both incredible athletes. Wilson has a great attitude, excellent work ethic, and a more likable personality. I voted for him. But, I wish the Seahawks had SF's OL and WR corps.

    Hmmm...tough call.
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    RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123
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    Russell has been struggling lately, but I would still easily take him over Kaepernick. Not only is Russell a better player, he's a face of the franchise type guy.
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    CuntWaffleCuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,493
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    One thing I will point out is that the Panthers secondary is average at best, they maul you with their front 7 by stuffing the run and creating havoc on your QB. They didn't do that at all after the first quarter. It bodes well for Seattle because the secondary is elite, hopefully the pass rush will play a bit better than the Panthers.
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    dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
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    One thing I will point out is that the Panthers secondary is average at best, they maul you with their front 7 by stuffing the run and creating havoc on your QB. They didn't do that at all after the first quarter. It bodes well for Seattle because the secondary is elite, hopefully the pass rush will play a bit better than the Panthers.

    their corners had a really bad game. That blown coverage on Boldin basically lost them the game
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    CuntWaffleCuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,493
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    dhdawg said:

    One thing I will point out is that the Panthers secondary is average at best, they maul you with their front 7 by stuffing the run and creating havoc on your QB. They didn't do that at all after the first quarter. It bodes well for Seattle because the secondary is elite, hopefully the pass rush will play a bit better than the Panthers.

    their corners had a really bad game. That blown coverage on Boldin basically lost them the game
    That play was terrible, it was like he fell asleep. Boldin isn't a burner, that would be like Zach Miller torching someone.
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    topdawgnctopdawgnc Member Posts: 7,838
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    Bob_C said:



    Bob_C said:

    People blaming the OC is kind of a cop out IMO. Just guessing, but I'd imagine that the play calling hasn't changed all that much over the course of the season. All the plays when they were made were outside of the regular offense anyways, Wilson just isn't making them as frequently as he once did.

    This is the NFL. If you aren't evolving as the season goes on, you're falling behind.

    That's on the coaches.
    Agree to a certain extent... But the difference here is that Wilson has never really made a lot of plays or great throws within the general framework of the offense. It's always been after things breakdown.

    When he stops making the improvised plays like he has it shines a light on the roach of an offense that is Seattle.

    So Bevell is exactly who is has been from the beginning, and was on Minnesota, a pretty average or below average coordinator. The only variable that has seemingly change is Wilson not making as many plays on the move.

    Wilson was kind of always this shitty in the pocket, just like everyone thought he was going to be. It's the other stuff not happening though that is what is going to cost them.

    I have zero street cred when it comes to the Seahawks, as some here will remind me.

    The one thing I see when I do watch the games ... the offense isn't as fluid as it is with a Manning or a Brady.

    To the quoted point... it seems as if the big plays are a result of breakdowns.

    Teams are figuring Wilson out ... and Seattle isn't countering.

    Again ... I don't follow as religiously so ... I am likely wrong.
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    CuntWaffleCuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,493
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    You aren't 100% wrong topdawg. I would say there are a lot of factors that play in other than just "figuring out Wilson" but teams are containing him better. The difference between Russell and Brady/Manning is neither of those teams has the defense that Seattle has.
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    CuntWaffleCuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,493
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    While Wilson goes through this stretch, we must remember that he hasn't been making killer mistakes. He hasn't injured the team with stupid interceptions and stupid decisions. That is valuable.

    Yea and he does deserve credit for that. One thing he said in the post presser yesterday that because of the weather they went extra conservative in the 2nd half because of the weather and the lead. He still made some bad throws/decisions but he was definately in a "don't turn the ball over" mindset rather than "need to make some plays".
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