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  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,722 Founders Club
    He probably should have won like 3 in that 2005 - 2008 window. Indy had homefield like 3 times and lost to some pretty mediocre teams at home.
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  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Passion said:

    PurpleBaze said:

    They're both incredible athletes. Wilson has a great attitude, excellent work ethic, and a more likable personality. I voted for him. But, I wish the Seahawks had SF's OL and WR corps.

    Hmmm...tough call.
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    PassionFS.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,146
    Russell has been struggling lately, but I would still easily take him over Kaepernick. Not only is Russell a better player, he's a face of the franchise type guy.
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  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    One thing I will point out is that the Panthers secondary is average at best, they maul you with their front 7 by stuffing the run and creating havoc on your QB. They didn't do that at all after the first quarter. It bodes well for Seattle because the secondary is elite, hopefully the pass rush will play a bit better than the Panthers.
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  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    CuntWaffle said:

    One thing I will point out is that the Panthers secondary is average at best, they maul you with their front 7 by stuffing the run and creating havoc on your QB. They didn't do that at all after the first quarter. It bodes well for Seattle because the secondary is elite, hopefully the pass rush will play a bit better than the Panthers.

    their corners had a really bad game. That blown coverage on Boldin basically lost them the game
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  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    dhdawg said:

    CuntWaffle said:

    One thing I will point out is that the Panthers secondary is average at best, they maul you with their front 7 by stuffing the run and creating havoc on your QB. They didn't do that at all after the first quarter. It bodes well for Seattle because the secondary is elite, hopefully the pass rush will play a bit better than the Panthers.

    their corners had a really bad game. That blown coverage on Boldin basically lost them the game
    That play was terrible, it was like he fell asleep. Boldin isn't a burner, that would be like Zach Miller torching someone.
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  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    Bob_C said:



    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    Bob_C said:

    People blaming the OC is kind of a cop out IMO. Just guessing, but I'd imagine that the play calling hasn't changed all that much over the course of the season. All the plays when they were made were outside of the regular offense anyways, Wilson just isn't making them as frequently as he once did.

    This is the NFL. If you aren't evolving as the season goes on, you're falling behind.

    That's on the coaches.
    Agree to a certain extent... But the difference here is that Wilson has never really made a lot of plays or great throws within the general framework of the offense. It's always been after things breakdown.

    When he stops making the improvised plays like he has it shines a light on the roach of an offense that is Seattle.

    So Bevell is exactly who is has been from the beginning, and was on Minnesota, a pretty average or below average coordinator. The only variable that has seemingly change is Wilson not making as many plays on the move.

    Wilson was kind of always this shitty in the pocket, just like everyone thought he was going to be. It's the other stuff not happening though that is what is going to cost them.

    I have zero street cred when it comes to the Seahawks, as some here will remind me.

    The one thing I see when I do watch the games ... the offense isn't as fluid as it is with a Manning or a Brady.

    To the quoted point... it seems as if the big plays are a result of breakdowns.

    Teams are figuring Wilson out ... and Seattle isn't countering.

    Again ... I don't follow as religiously so ... I am likely wrong.
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  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    You aren't 100% wrong topdawg. I would say there are a lot of factors that play in other than just "figuring out Wilson" but teams are containing him better. The difference between Russell and Brady/Manning is neither of those teams has the defense that Seattle has.
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  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    DerekJohnson said:

    While Wilson goes through this stretch, we must remember that he hasn't been making killer mistakes. He hasn't injured the team with stupid interceptions and stupid decisions. That is valuable.

    Yea and he does deserve credit for that. One thing he said in the post presser yesterday that because of the weather they went extra conservative in the 2nd half because of the weather and the lead. He still made some bad throws/decisions but he was definately in a "don't turn the ball over" mindset rather than "need to make some plays".
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  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    DerekJohnson said:

    While Wilson goes through this stretch, we must remember that he hasn't been making killer mistakes. He hasn't injured the team with stupid interceptions and stupid decisions. That is valuable.

    Knock on wood.
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    RaceBannon said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    While Wilson goes through this stretch, we must remember that he hasn't been making killer mistakes. He hasn't injured the team with stupid interceptions and stupid decisions. That is valuable.

    He's doing what Pete wants. Every team left standing is running the ball. The two NFC teams play defense. Real football in a Micky mouse era
    NFL plays REAL football while college is a lottery to see which team has the ball last.
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  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    RaceBannon said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    While Wilson goes through this stretch, we must remember that he hasn't been making killer mistakes. He hasn't injured the team with stupid interceptions and stupid decisions. That is valuable.

    He's doing what Pete wants. Every team left standing is running the ball. The two NFC teams play defense. Real football in a Micky mouse era
    NFL plays REAL football while college is a lottery to see which team has the ball last.
    ApostleofGrief??? True?!?!?
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,108 Founders Club
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    RaceBannon said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    While Wilson goes through this stretch, we must remember that he hasn't been making killer mistakes. He hasn't injured the team with stupid interceptions and stupid decisions. That is valuable.

    He's doing what Pete wants. Every team left standing is running the ball. The two NFC teams play defense. Real football in a Micky mouse era
    NFL plays REAL football while college is a lottery to see which team has the ball last.
    Your beloved wild card weekend disagrees
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    RaceBannon said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    RaceBannon said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    While Wilson goes through this stretch, we must remember that he hasn't been making killer mistakes. He hasn't injured the team with stupid interceptions and stupid decisions. That is valuable.

    He's doing what Pete wants. Every team left standing is running the ball. The two NFC teams play defense. Real football in a Micky mouse era
    NFL plays REAL football while college is a lottery to see which team has the ball last.
    Your beloved wild card weekend disagrees
    Who's wild card weekend? Does he poast here?

    The four best teams are left.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,108 Founders Club
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    RaceBannon said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    RaceBannon said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    While Wilson goes through this stretch, we must remember that he hasn't been making killer mistakes. He hasn't injured the team with stupid interceptions and stupid decisions. That is valuable.

    He's doing what Pete wants. Every team left standing is running the ball. The two NFC teams play defense. Real football in a Micky mouse era
    NFL plays REAL football while college is a lottery to see which team has the ball last.
    Your beloved wild card weekend disagrees
    Who's wild card weekend? Does he poast here?

    The four best teams are left.
    Wild card weekend and the whole season = Micky mouse football
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    RaceBannon said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    RaceBannon said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    RaceBannon said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    While Wilson goes through this stretch, we must remember that he hasn't been making killer mistakes. He hasn't injured the team with stupid interceptions and stupid decisions. That is valuable.

    He's doing what Pete wants. Every team left standing is running the ball. The two NFC teams play defense. Real football in a Micky mouse era
    NFL plays REAL football while college is a lottery to see which team has the ball last.
    Your beloved wild card weekend disagrees
    Who's wild card weekend? Does he poast here?

    The four best teams are left.
    Wild card weekend and the whole season = Micky mouse football
    For Denver, yes. For the other three teams remaining, not the case.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,108 Founders Club
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    RaceBannon said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    RaceBannon said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    RaceBannon said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    While Wilson goes through this stretch, we must remember that he hasn't been making killer mistakes. He hasn't injured the team with stupid interceptions and stupid decisions. That is valuable.

    He's doing what Pete wants. Every team left standing is running the ball. The two NFC teams play defense. Real football in a Micky mouse era
    NFL plays REAL football while college is a lottery to see which team has the ball last.
    Your beloved wild card weekend disagrees
    Who's wild card weekend? Does he poast here?

    The four best teams are left.
    Wild card weekend and the whole season = Micky mouse football
    For Denver, yes. For the other three teams remaining, not the case.
    Thank you for repeating the point of my post
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  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    DerekJohnson said:

    While Wilson goes through this stretch, we must remember that he hasn't been making killer mistakes. He hasn't injured the team with stupid interceptions and stupid decisions. That is valuable.

    Yes - If GB's defensive backs could catch, Krapper would have sunk the 9'ers playoff hopes already. He made two stupid decisions that would have gifted the game to GB if their db's didn't have hands of stone.

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  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,678 Standard Supporter
    It's worth a 15 yd penalty to take a shot at Kaepernick early in the game (not a viscous shot, one that nobody would think about two minutes later ten years ago).
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  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,332 Founders Club
    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    It's worth a 15 yd penalty to take a shot at Kaepernick early in the game (not a viscous shot, one that nobody would think about two minutes later ten years ago).

    I'd like to see Boldin & Crabtree take such a shots. With that said, it would have been nice for the Seahawks to have receivers like those two.
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    It's worth a 15 yd penalty to take a shot at Kaepernick early in the game (not a viscous shot, one that nobody would think about two minutes later ten years ago).

    If you have to resort to cheapshots to win, you suck.

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  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    edited January 2014
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

    Passion said:

    PurpleBaze said:

    They're both incredible athletes. Wilson has a great attitude, excellent work ethic, and a more likable personality. I voted for him. But, I wish the Seahawks had SF's OL and WR corps.

    Hmmm...tough call.
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    This is BrentsFS. It's like the Seahawk fans who post the Instagram accounts of Wilson and Kaepernick and say "look! look! Kaepernick is a douchebag!! Wilson's a family guy therefore he's a better QB!!!"

    I'm a 49ers fan and I'd take Wilson at this point. His decision-making and demeanor on the field are incredible. Kaepernick goes through too many Jack Lockner-type moments on the field.

    If you're only looking at physical tools, it's Kaepernick but Wilson makes up for his shortfall (hi Hugh!) with the mental part of his game.

    The one thing I'm not doing is judging them by their wardrobes, tattoos or Instagram accounts because that's plain fucking stupid.
    Sometimes I think people take the whole not-being-a-doog thing too seriously. Lighten up, Francis. I was just making fun of the guy.
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  • SandyHooker
    SandyHooker Member Posts: 343
    CuntWaffle said:

    One of my buddies played at Nevada and he said he witnessed on multiple occasions Kaepernick pushing people in wheelchairs down flights of stairs. There was also this incident of Kaep's (I like to call him that) homies engaging in a parking lot rape and Colin just stood there and let it happen....

    pics?
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  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    SandyHooker said:

    CuntWaffle said:

    One of my buddies played at Nevada and he said he witnessed on multiple occasions Kaepernick pushing people in wheelchairs down flights of stairs. There was also this incident of Kaep's (I like to call him that) homies engaging in a parking lot rape and Colin just stood there and let it happen....

    pics?
    Of the wheelchairs or rapes? Abundance?
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  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,678 Standard Supporter
    edited January 2014
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    It's worth a 15 yd penalty to take a shot at Kaepernick early in the game (not a viscous shot, one that nobody would think about two minutes later ten years ago).

    If you have to resort to cheapshots to win, you suck.

    yeah, well I'll live with my team that sucks playing in a New Jersey swamp in early February over choir boys who play golf then

    I'm not saying they should spear him, body slam him, or generally try to put him in a stretcher, what they should do enough to make him jittery in the pocket.
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  • [Deleted User]
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    DerekJohnson said:

    While Wilson goes through this stretch, we must remember that he hasn't been making killer mistakes. He hasn't injured the team with stupid interceptions and stupid decisions. That is valuable.

    The Seahawks during this stretch really have been playing Don James football. Good special teams play, good running game, great defense, a QB who makes just enough plays but doesn't fuck up the game.

    Seattle is now 14-3 on the season and I think Wilson will be fine. I believe they know they need Wilson to do more this game so they'll open it up more.

    Wilson played good in the first half, then Bevell went ultra conservative second half. Still when Seattle needed a drive they scored a TD.

    I think long term I'd take Wilson too as he appears more mature than Kaepernik. I couldn't ever picture Peyton, Brady, Brees or Rodgers mocking another QB on Instagram after mocking him during the game.

    Also Kaepernik has yet to really have a good game against the Seahawks, even their win vs Seattle he was mediocre at best.
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