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Why the mess in Portland matters to the globe

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  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,889

    Murray is an interesting dude. I find that I agree with a lot of what he says.

    I knew little about him, and had this impression of him as a conservative who perhaps was tinged with a racist outlook. That was a very unfair assessment for me to make, but it was based on things I heard and read. But when I heard him on Rogan, and then yesterday with Weinstein, I loved the guy. I'm totally on board. Brilliant thinker, big balls, and much foresight.

    He travels the USA and can see things as an outsider. I winced when he said it is shocking how poorly educated the vast majority of Americans are and what that portends for our future.

    I agree when he said that the future of the world hinges greatly on how America fares.
    The problem is now that being "educated" but having no actual skills (aka most grads) is imo even worse than being uneducated.

    That's how bad it is.
  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 63,197 Founders Club

    Murray is an interesting dude. I find that I agree with a lot of what he says.

    I knew little about him, and had this impression of him as a conservative who perhaps was tinged with a racist outlook. That was a very unfair assessment for me to make, but it was based on things I heard and read. But when I heard him on Rogan, and then yesterday with Weinstein, I loved the guy. I'm totally on board. Brilliant thinker, big balls, and much foresight.

    He travels the USA and can see things as an outsider. I winced when he said it is shocking how poorly educated the vast majority of Americans are and what that portends for our future.

    I agree when he said that the future of the world hinges greatly on how America fares.
    The problem is now that being "educated" but having no actual skills (aka most grads) is imo even worse than being uneducated.

    That's how bad it is.
    That's a great point
  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 63,197 Founders Club

    Douglas’s comment on the disorder in the faces in the mugshots was chilling.

    Glad I got the fuck out.

    Joe Rogan has talked about it too. That you can see the mental disorders just by looking into their faces
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 43,970 Standard Supporter

    Douglas’s comment on the disorder in the faces in the mugshots was chilling.

    Glad I got the fuck out.

    Joe Rogan has talked about it too. That you can see the mental disorders just by looking into their faces
    Smear the queer and some decent mental institutions would have solved this problem years ago.
  • LoneStarDawgLoneStarDawg Member Posts: 13,336

    Murray is an interesting dude. I find that I agree with a lot of what he says.

    I knew little about him, and had this impression of him as a conservative who perhaps was tinged with a racist outlook. That was a very unfair assessment for me to make, but it was based on things I heard and read. But when I heard him on Rogan, and then yesterday with Weinstein, I loved the guy. I'm totally on board. Brilliant thinker, big balls, and much foresight.

    He travels the USA and can see things as an outsider. I winced when he said it is shocking how poorly educated the vast majority of Americans are and what that portends for our future.

    I agree when he said that the future of the world hinges greatly on how America fares.
    The problem is now that being "educated" but having no actual skills (aka most grads) is imo even worse than being uneducated.

    That's how bad it is.
    Spending 100k and “working hard” for 4 years is the macro level equivalent of a middle manager who is in his seat 8-5 forwarding emails around and making charts.

    Effort does not equal accomplishment
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,347 Founders Club

    Douglas’s comment on the disorder in the faces in the mugshots was chilling.

    Glad I got the fuck out.

    Joe Rogan has talked about it too. That you can see the mental disorders just by looking into their faces
    Malformed souls.
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,431 Swaye's Wigwam

    Murray is an interesting dude. I find that I agree with a lot of what he says.

    I knew little about him, and had this impression of him as a conservative who perhaps was tinged with a racist outlook. That was a very unfair assessment for me to make, but it was based on things I heard and read. But when I heard him on Rogan, and then yesterday with Weinstein, I loved the guy. I'm totally on board. Brilliant thinker, big balls, and much foresight.

    He travels the USA and can see things as an outsider. I winced when he said it is shocking how poorly educated the vast majority of Americans are and what that portends for our future.

    I agree when he said that the future of the world hinges greatly on how America fares.
    They’re aren’t any actual racists left.

    Murray is an interesting dude. I find that I agree with a lot of what he says.

    I knew little about him, and had this impression of him as a conservative who perhaps was tinged with a racist outlook. That was a very unfair assessment for me to make, but it was based on things I heard and read. But when I heard him on Rogan, and then yesterday with Weinstein, I loved the guy. I'm totally on board. Brilliant thinker, big balls, and much foresight.

    He travels the USA and can see things as an outsider. I winced when he said it is shocking how poorly educated the vast majority of Americans are and what that portends for our future.

    I agree when he said that the future of the world hinges greatly on how America fares.
    The problem is now that being "educated" but having no actual skills (aka most grads) is imo even worse than being uneducated.

    That's how bad it is.
    Thomas Sowell has been on that point for a long time. They fee entitled because of education and become resentful.

    Trump could get on Mt Rushmore if he could dismantle federal education loan programs in 2nd term.
  • PHD_DawgPHD_Dawg Member Posts: 154
    I love hearing shit like this from people who don't live here. It's a few blocks downtown. You wouldn't know anything had been any different for the past 5 months from a mile away, outside of a few isolated incidents.
  • PHD_DawgPHD_Dawg Member Posts: 154

    Murray is an interesting dude. I find that I agree with a lot of what he says.

    I knew little about him, and had this impression of him as a conservative who perhaps was tinged with a racist outlook. That was a very unfair assessment for me to make, but it was based on things I heard and read. But when I heard him on Rogan, and then yesterday with Weinstein, I loved the guy. I'm totally on board. Brilliant thinker, big balls, and much foresight.

    He travels the USA and can see things as an outsider. I winced when he said it is shocking how poorly educated the vast majority of Americans are and what that portends for our future.

    I agree when he said that the future of the world hinges greatly on how America fares.
    this is hilarious coming from a Rogan fan
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,496 Standard Supporter
    PHD_Dawg said:

    Murray is an interesting dude. I find that I agree with a lot of what he says.

    I knew little about him, and had this impression of him as a conservative who perhaps was tinged with a racist outlook. That was a very unfair assessment for me to make, but it was based on things I heard and read. But when I heard him on Rogan, and then yesterday with Weinstein, I loved the guy. I'm totally on board. Brilliant thinker, big balls, and much foresight.

    He travels the USA and can see things as an outsider. I winced when he said it is shocking how poorly educated the vast majority of Americans are and what that portends for our future.

    I agree when he said that the future of the world hinges greatly on how America fares.
    this is hilarious coming from a Rogan fan
    Go on...
  • haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,766 Swaye's Wigwam
    The state of Oregon is uneducated and doesn't give a shit about education. Leave Washington and California out of it, and what does he base that claim on anyways? In terms of software UK seems way behind and just copies whatever the hell we do and teach anyways.

    Downtown Portland is an absolute embarrassment, but the rest of the city is fine and has been this whole time.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,655 Standard Supporter
    It matters to me because we now have people in power that will allow their political allies to commit crimes at will without punishment. They will lose them on their own citizens that do not agree with them with carte blanche to loot, burn, assault and murder. This isn't the America I know nor the America that were intended to live in. One side is actually in a physical war. It'll be interesting when Trump crushes Biden. Lets see what these communist assholes do. There may be less of them if they get too frisky!
  • LoneStarDawgLoneStarDawg Member Posts: 13,336
    PHD_Dawg said:

    I love hearing shit like this from people who don't live here. It's a few blocks downtown. You wouldn't know anything had been any different for the past 5 months from a mile away, outside of a few isolated incidents.

    93% peaceful
  • haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,766 Swaye's Wigwam
    PHD_Dawg said:

    I love hearing shit like this from people who don't live here. It's a few blocks downtown. You wouldn't know anything had been any different for the past 5 months from a mile away, outside of a few isolated incidents.

    What's more pathetic is the ridiculous lockdown rules at all the breweries whereas in downtown Vancouver just north, everyone is partying again.

    Downtown is our Chaz. It's okay though because I've been told that the chaz in Seattle was just a festival so it's not as embarrassing as it sounds like.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,116

    Murray is an interesting dude. I find that I agree with a lot of what he says.

    I knew little about him, and had this impression of him as a conservative who perhaps was tinged with a racist outlook. That was a very unfair assessment for me to make, but it was based on things I heard and read. But when I heard him on Rogan, and then yesterday with Weinstein, I loved the guy. I'm totally on board. Brilliant thinker, big balls, and much foresight.

    He travels the USA and can see things as an outsider. I winced when he said it is shocking how poorly educated the vast majority of Americans are and what that portends for our future.

    I agree when he said that the future of the world hinges greatly on how America fares.
    The problem is now that being "educated" but having no actual skills (aka most grads) is imo even worse than being uneducated.

    That's how bad it is.
    It should be rather uncontroversial:

    - Educated + Practical Skills = #1
    - Non-Educated + Practical Skills = #2
    - Educated + No Practical Skills = #3
    - Uneducated + No Practical Skills = #4 and worst.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,496 Standard Supporter

    Douglas Murray, British thinker and author, is on a tour of the chaos of the west coast. He and Bret Weinstein have a discussion about the train wreck that is Portland and other west coast cities.

    Super enlightening but ultimately traumatizing to realize the trajectory we’re on.

    https://youtu.be/E7LMSZ2xsRs

    Listening now, good chit, thank you
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