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The City of Seattle’s Relationship With UW & UW Football

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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
    dnc said:

    On Yella’s Muzak Bored he questioned why members of grunge bands were depressed. Seattle was “way cooler” in the late eighties and early nineties, and UW football was kicking ass.

    That got me wondering about Seattle and its relationship to UW and Husky Football during that era. That was a bit before my tim, so I’m curious - was Seattle as enamored with the DWAGS back in the day as it is with the Hawks Sounders Kraken now?

    My perspective is probably different than most here in that I grew up in a Seahawks family who DNGAF about UW. Dad got me hooked on the Hawks and I adopted UW on my own shortly thereafter. My Dad grew up Mormon and his family hated UW because they refused to play BYU back in the day and he had a little soft spot for the Cougs because he was from Eastern Washington. Thankfully he didn't really GAF about college football in general so he didn't discourage me from pulling for UW he just didn't care, nor did anyone else in my family. To my perspective in that 85-90 era where I first cared about sports the Seahawks were a bigger deal than the Dawgs in the area. I do think the Dawgs were a bigger deal in the early 90s - some kids at my middle school and even a few at my high school wore UW gear. It wasn't rare to see Sonics or even Mariners gear but NOBODY wore Seahawks gear at that point. Myself included.

    I don't think it was ever as Husky dominant as it is Seahawk dominant now (at least not in my lifetime) but I'm not there now so maybe it's not as Hawks centric as my impression.
    I left out that my Dad’s name is Dave and he went to GRCC. Go Gatorz!
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614

    Alexis said:

    UW was the biggest deal in town in the late 80s. But Seattle itself never did like big time football. The Seattle Times would write a glowing article about the team in the Sports section with guys like Blaine Newnham. While at the same time the Northwest section would write 2 stories about how Don James was the highest paid public employee and how that was wrong and every time a football player would get a DUI.
    Fans used to make UW #1. Seattle never liked them.

    It is interesting that UW football was held to a higher standard of conduct than the Seahawks. I know a big part of that is because of its ties to a publicly funded university, but don’t tell me the Seahawks, Sounders, etc. players don’t pull a lot of the same off field shenanigans that the Husky players do.
    Very true. But let's not forget that the local rag isn't filled with "journalists" who were San Francisco 49ers or LA Rams in college either (or Broncos or Raiders).
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614

    As an old-time Seattleite that grew up in Montlake my perspective is a little different regarding the Seattle sports scene.

    Picture this:
    in the 50's the big thing in Seattle was hydro racing ~ the city was NUTS about the rivalry with detroit and the gold cup was the thing that the entire town stopped and watched on the local boats, along the shoreline or on TV. TV was NEW... think about that. The most exciting TV ads were the local dairy ads for cottage cheese because the color guns on the new color tv's were out of alignment and so the cottage cheese ads looked like rainbow-colored product offerings. Cool.

    Seattle was a small town that basically stopped at the city limits which was around the 7/11 on aurora that people in here are fond of referring to. Bellevue was a cow town that you needed to plan a day trip to get to because the bridge didn't exist yet. The freeway system through Seattle was just being built.

    Seattle was a major league west coast city from a sports perspective in the sense that the PCL baseball league consisted of all of the major west coast teams... LA, SF, San Diego, Portland, Seattle and Vancouver BC. Throw in the Salt lake city Bees and the Hawaii Islanders and that was the league.

    Same with hockey... the Western Hockey league was killer with LA, SF, Portland, Seattle and Vancouver BC and the local Canucks were a dynamite team. Seattle was definitely a great hockey town and the old ice arena really rocked... Yow, it was exciting to watch the long slap shots from the blue line amidst the smoke and air horns.

    UW crew was a really big deal... it was the Dawgs and Cal vs the eastern powers of Harvard and some of the other IVY league schools.

    The NFL didn't really exist on the west coast until the 49ers and Rams were introduced on the west coast... so you had your choice of which of those two teams were your local favorite.

    So, the college football scene was the only game in town throughout most of the west. West coast football was a regional affair ~ UCLA, USC, Washington and Cal were the teams of note but the big ten and the big 12 were really the teams that mattered nationally. No one really expected the west coast teams to do much from a national perspective until the west coast teams actually started to do something unusual ~ some of the teams started to throw the football, sometimes as much as 20X a game [origins of the so-called West Coast Offense]

    Some of the games were televised but until ABC sports started televising national games, football was all about going to the game. The metro league was an important part of the Dawgs recruiting footprint. In those days the Metro league was the best part of the local football scene, and there was a city vs state all-star game at the end of the season that the City team was usually the winner of.

    It was one platoon football, the teams were small and the schedule often included luminary offerings ~ Here is the 1957 schedule:

    University of Colorado SEP 21 ~ SEATTLE, WASH.
    MINNESOTA SEP 28 ~ At MINNEAPOLIS AND SAINT PAUL, MINN.
    OHIO STATE OCT 5 ~ SEATTLE, WASH.
    UCLA OCT 12 ~ AT UCLA LOS ANGELES, CALIF.
    Stanford OCT 19 ~ SEATTLE, WASH.
    Oregon State OCT 26 ~ SEATTLE, WASH.
    University of Southern California NOV 2 ~ SEATTLE, WASH.
    University of Oregon NOV 9 ~ AT EUGENE, ORE.
    University of California NOV 16 ~ AT BERKELEY, CALIF.
    Washington State NOV 23 ~ SEATTLE, WASH.

    This would be such a fucking tits schedule if we had it today. We'd go 6-4 but still...
    Jim Owens was 6 win Steve before 7 win Steve. Drove my dad crazy. Then some really bad years.


    Owens was kind of our? version of Mike Price in that he was capable of doing something really special by the schools standards when it call came together but was also not especially good most of the time.

    Both are remembered as better coaches than they actually were because when they were good they were really good.

    Basically the inverse of Chris Petersen.
  • Edwin_BambinoEdwin_Bambino Member Posts: 2,943
    edited October 2020
    As someone who was born at the tail end of the 80’s and grew up in NE Seattle most people I grew up with were big Dawg fans by individual family ties or just due to proximity to UW other than those that had other PNW affiliations. The head of the Tyee club lived on my street growing up and his son and I were close which rubbed off on my brothers and I as well as my mom being an alum.

    People that were born and grew up in my part of the city are still generally big UW fans regardless of if they went to UW or not. Also a ton of alums still live in NE Seattle, versus other parts of the city which I doubt care as much about UW. Where the Seahawks have picked up massively from what I have seen is people who moved into the city from outside the region who didn’t already have an NFL teams and disaffected UW fans from the Gilby / Ty era, some of whom while still UW fans are now bigger Seahawks fans. With the final population being non college educated non city dwelling fans who have moved solidly into the fanatical 12’s camp. Most of my friends and family enjoy both teams but if we had to only follow one it would be UW and it wouldn’t be a question.

    Also as UW admits more international and out of state students while some develop an affinity for UW sports many could care less.
  • Doog_de_JourDoog_de_Jour Member Posts: 7,958 Standard Supporter
    AEB said:

    I grew up in Sacramento, but always had strong ties to Seattle as my Mom immigrated to America through Seattle. I grew up loving UW as both parents went there. My freshman year was Fall ‘94, and I partied in Seattle U one Friday night with some girls I knew from Sac. Crashed with them and took the bus back to the UW District Saturday morning first thing. I’ll never forget going up Broadway on the bus - the street had purple and gold banners flying from the lamp posts. Old people. Young people. Everyone slowly started to board the bus as we moved north all dressed in Husky attire. It was amazing. Purple and Gold on lampposts on Broadway heading north. Everyone cared. So cool.

    That must’ve been cool. You’re now even hard pressed to find UW banners on the Ave, never mind Boardway.
  • FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    As an old-time Seattleite that grew up in Montlake my perspective is a little different regarding the Seattle sports scene.

    Picture this:
    in the 50's the big thing in Seattle was hydro racing ~ the city was NUTS about the rivalry with detroit and the gold cup was the thing that the entire town stopped and watched on the local boats, along the shoreline or on TV. TV was NEW... think about that. The most exciting TV ads were the local dairy ads for cottage cheese because the color guns on the new color tv's were out of alignment and so the cottage cheese ads looked like rainbow-colored product offerings. Cool.

    Seattle was a small town that basically stopped at the city limits which was around the 7/11 on aurora that people in here are fond of referring to. Bellevue was a cow town that you needed to plan a day trip to get to because the bridge didn't exist yet. The freeway system through Seattle was just being built.

    Seattle was a major league west coast city from a sports perspective in the sense that the PCL baseball league consisted of all of the major west coast teams... LA, SF, San Diego, Portland, Seattle and Vancouver BC. Throw in the Salt lake city Bees and the Hawaii Islanders and that was the league.

    Same with hockey... the Western Hockey league was killer with LA, SF, Portland, Seattle and Vancouver BC and the local Canucks were a dynamite team. Seattle was definitely a great hockey town and the old ice arena really rocked... Yow, it was exciting to watch the long slap shots from the blue line amidst the smoke and air horns.

    UW crew was a really big deal... it was the Dawgs and Cal vs the eastern powers of Harvard and some of the other IVY league schools.

    The NFL didn't really exist on the west coast until the 49ers and Rams were introduced on the west coast... so you had your choice of which of those two teams were your local favorite.

    So, the college football scene was the only game in town throughout most of the west. West coast football was a regional affair ~ UCLA, USC, Washington and Cal were the teams of note but the big ten and the big 12 were really the teams that mattered nationally. No one really expected the west coast teams to do much from a national perspective until the west coast teams actually started to do something unusual ~ some of the teams started to throw the football, sometimes as much as 20X a game [origins of the so-called West Coast Offense]

    Some of the games were televised but until ABC sports started televising national games, football was all about going to the game. The metro league was an important part of the Dawgs recruiting footprint. In those days the Metro league was the best part of the local football scene, and there was a city vs state all-star game at the end of the season that the City team was usually the winner of.

    It was one platoon football, the teams were small and the schedule often included luminary offerings ~ Here is the 1957 schedule:

    University of Colorado SEP 21 ~ SEATTLE, WASH.
    MINNESOTA SEP 28 ~ At MINNEAPOLIS AND SAINT PAUL, MINN.
    OHIO STATE OCT 5 ~ SEATTLE, WASH.
    UCLA OCT 12 ~ AT UCLA LOS ANGELES, CALIF.
    Stanford OCT 19 ~ SEATTLE, WASH.
    Oregon State OCT 26 ~ SEATTLE, WASH.
    University of Southern California NOV 2 ~ SEATTLE, WASH.
    University of Oregon NOV 9 ~ AT EUGENE, ORE.
    University of California NOV 16 ~ AT BERKELEY, CALIF.
    Washington State NOV 23 ~ SEATTLE, WASH.

    Was race still a bitter fan in the 50s?
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,485 Standard Supporter

    AEB said:

    I grew up in Sacramento, but always had strong ties to Seattle as my Mom immigrated to America through Seattle. I grew up loving UW as both parents went there. My freshman year was Fall ‘94, and I partied in Seattle U one Friday night with some girls I knew from Sac. Crashed with them and took the bus back to the UW District Saturday morning first thing. I’ll never forget going up Broadway on the bus - the street had purple and gold banners flying from the lamp posts. Old people. Young people. Everyone slowly started to board the bus as we moved north all dressed in Husky attire. It was amazing. Purple and Gold on lampposts on Broadway heading north. Everyone cared. So cool.

    That must’ve been cool. You’re now even hard pressed to find UW banners on the Ave, never mind Boardway.
    *Boredwhey
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