The City of Seattle’s Relationship With UW & UW Football
That got me wondering about Seattle and its relationship to UW and Husky Football during that era. That was a bit before my tim, so I’m curious - was Seattle as enamored with the DWAGS back in the day as it is with the
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During my childhood, in the late eighties/early nineties, it was all Dwags and much less Seahawks. There was Largent, though. I also never lived in the city.
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Didn't live in the city either, but in a shithole county in the state. I remember the Seahawks being a joke and real football talk all around The Dwags. "You know, the Huskies WOULD BEAT the Chickenhawks loloolollloollo."
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UW football was the hottest ticket around and Don James success was something that grated on upper campus.
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Holy crap, I totally remember that argument!GrundleStiltzkin said:Didn't live in the city either, but in a shithole county in the state. I remember the Seahawks being a joke and real football talk all around The Dwags. "You know, the Huskies WOULD BEAT the Chickenhawks loloolollloollo."
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Almost as good as Bellevue would beat UPS.1to392831weretaken said:
Holy crap, I totally remember that argument!GrundleStiltzkin said:Didn't live in the city either, but in a shithole county in the state. I remember the Seahawks being a joke and real football talk all around The Dwags. "You know, the Huskies WOULD BEAT the Chickenhawks loloolollloollo."
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The team with Myles Jack and Budda would have.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Almost as good as Bellevue would beat UPS.1to392831weretaken said:
Holy crap, I totally remember that argument!GrundleStiltzkin said:Didn't live in the city either, but in a shithole county in the state. I remember the Seahawks being a joke and real football talk all around The Dwags. "You know, the Huskies WOULD BEAT the Chickenhawks loloolollloollo."
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The Seahawks were still a big deal until 1992 or 1993. By '92 everyone knew they really sucked and Behring was a fat fuck who didn't care enough about winning. In the 80s though, they were a hot ticket and competitive enough to sell out.
Honestly I was a little more into them until 1990. They were on every week. The Huskies were on KOMO 4 Buttfuckers (KIRO in the mid 80s), and KCPQ maybe five times a year. They weren't on cable much at all. For you young doogs, 30 years ago you couldn't watch on the internets (there was no internet), and there was one ESPN and no Fox Sports. You had a gaybc game at 12:30 and a CBS game at 11:30. Maybe there was a double header a few times a year. Different tims. Even in 1991, the K State game wasn't on live TV and a few more weren't. You listened to Rondeau and Chuck Nelson on the radio, damnit.
As far as Seattle went, it seemed like a better place. There were still a few tuff liberals including some of my relatives. Grunge put it more on the map. It hadn't fagged out yet. You could still put a Republicant yd. sign up and not have to worry about it being lit on fire. It happened gradually. By the 2000s, the faggotry you see today was picking up steam quickly.
I don't know a lot about the Krackens. Go Canucks. I didn't see too much related to them when I was visiting there in July. Just bums all over the place. The Dawgs were a big deal in the early 90s and overtook the Hawks to answer the OP. -
My perspective is probably different than most here in that I grew up in a Seahawks family who DNGAF about UW. Dad got me hooked on the Hawks and I adopted UW on my own shortly thereafter. My Dad grew up Mormon and his family hated UW because they refused to play BYU back in the day and he had a little soft spot for the Cougs because he was from Eastern Washington. Thankfully he didn't really GAF about college football in general so he didn't discourage me from pulling for UW he just didn't care, nor did anyone else in my family. To my perspective in that 85-90 era where I first cared about sports the Seahawks were a bigger deal than the Dawgs in the area. I do think the Dawgs were a bigger deal in the early 90s - some kids at my middle school and even a few at my high school wore UW gear. It wasn't rare to see Sonics or even Mariners gear but NOBODY wore Seahawks gear at that point. Myself included.Doog_de_Jour said:On Yella’s Muzak Bored he questioned why members of grunge bands were depressed. Seattle was “way cooler” in the late eighties and early nineties, and UW football was kicking ass.
That got me wondering about Seattle and its relationship to UW and Husky Football during that era. That was a bit before my tim, so I’m curious - was Seattle as enamored with the DWAGS back in the day as it is with theHawksSoundersKraken now?
I don't think it was ever as Husky dominant as it is Seahawk dominant now (at least not in my lifetime) but I'm not there now so maybe it's not as Hawks centric as my impression. -
Being an old fart - the Dawgs were king until the Seahawks arrived. Both were actually equal in the press as they had different play days. Sunday paper had a huge section for the UW, Monday for the Hawks.
Sonics got a lot of glory but obvious different time frame.
Absolutely no coverage of recruiting that I can remember but I was growing up in a drug-induced stupor in South Seattle (Rainier Beach guy here)
Komo used to have an hour show on Sundays for Owens and then James to review the previous days game. There was no sports radio to bolster the audience back then either. -
Thanks for the chinsights.
I do of course remember coming to Seattle during that era, but as a kid I never got the (forgive me the expression) the “12” vibe for either the Hawks or the Huskies. But I never saw much beyond UW’s campus and the touristy sites.
I get that Seattle’s love affair with the Dawgs was a long tim ago, that it’s not a college town, and that there’s been a huge influx of transplants, etc but it would be nice to see more support for the football program in the city.
Eh. I need to STOP LIVING IN THE PAST! -
Grew up in the city of Seattle, 4th generation in the city. Huskies were big late '70s-mid 80's. Seahawks sucked until '83 when they got Curt Warner and got to the AFC championship. Hawks were good from '84-'86, '87. Seahawks were actually huge in the mid-80s with the Bronco-busters and Raider-busters shit. Kingdome was an awesome place when it got cranked up.
Dawgs ruled in the early '90s because they were at a peak and the Seahawks sucked until Holmgren showed up. The Sunday Seattle Times sports section was packed with Husky info and stories. Nothing louder than Husky stadium in the early '90s, nothing..... -
Prime Sports showed up on cable in 88 with a Saturday afternoon game and full Husky replays on Sunday night.
Q13 took over the coaches show.
When the Hawks talked about hiring James in the early 80s after 3 Rose Bowls people threatened to cut up their Nordstrom cards. Nordy got out not long after. The Hawks hired Chuck Knox and James got paid by UW -
Really?That’s amazing.RaceBannon said:Prime Sports showed up on cable in 88 with a Saturday afternoon game and full Husky replays on Sunday night.
Q13 took over the coaches show.
When the Hawks talked about hiring James in the early 80s after 3 Rose Bowls people threatened to cut up their Nordstrom cards. Nordy got out not long after. The Hawks hired Chuck Knox and James got paid by UW
Though I don’t like the idea of cutting up my Nordy card. 💄👠👜💍👗 -
Dawgs were huge. I grew up near the University though, and many of the houses in the area were rentals filled with UW students, or filled with their professors / employees. We could sometimes here the roar from Husky stadium, and there was a waiting list for season tickets. Definitely echo what others have said that the Hawks, especially late 80's when they won AFC west were big, and Steve Largent was a god. Everykid who played football wanted to be him. That being said, 89 - 2001 Dawgs were definitely the bigger ticket. My middle and high school were filled with kids wearing UW gear regularly. I mean, Sir Mix A lot repped UW in Baby Got Back.
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Good shit. You can't get more 80s hawks insider than @Kingdome_Urinals.Kingdome_Urinals said:Grew up in the city of Seattle, 4th generation in the city. Huskies were big late '70s-mid 80's. Seahawks sucked until '83 when they got Curt Warner and got to the AFC championship. Hawks were good from '84-'86, '87. Seahawks were actually huge in the mid-80s with the Bronco-busters and Raider-busters shit. Kingdome was an awesome place when it got cranked up.
Dawgs ruled in the early '90s because they were at a peak and the Seahawks sucked until Holmgren showed up. The Sunday Seattle Times sports section was packed with Husky info and stories. Nothing louder than Husky stadium in the early '90s, nothing..... -
The only thing I'll add to what's been said by @dnc, @Fire_Marshall_Bill, etc. is that I believe there was a waiting for UW season tickets in the 80s and 90s while there were people trying to sell their Seahawks season tickets. That might be a bit of hyperbole but it's pretty close to true.
All the faggoty liberals and the transplants hurt UW football's standing in the city. I despise the transplants who are HUGE 12s. -
Seahawks had a huge season ticket waiting list in the late 80s I know that. Wouldn’t shock me if UW did too.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:The only thing I'll add to what's been said by @dnc, @Fire_Marshall_Bill, etc. is that I believe there was a waiting for UW season tickets in the 80s and 90s while there were people trying to sell their Seahawks season tickets. That might be a bit of hyperbole but it's pretty close to true.
All the faggoty liberals and the transplants hurt UW football's standing in the city. I despise the transplants who are HUGE 12s.
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In the late 70's, when I'd go to the store with my dads, the grocery bags said "Husky Fever!", and everyone in Shelton had those bags in their house, even the dumb Cooger families. Don James had his own show on Sunday evening where he'd tell you how much better the Huskies needed to do, even if they'd just dismantled their opponent.
My old man watched Don James' show, and he was a guy that considered television a colossal waste of time - except for Hee Haw and Don James.
At least that's how I remember it. Years of drugs and alcohol may have blurred some of my memories, so keep that in mind. -
I loved the Husky Fever stuff as a kid.
Our current marking campaign might as well be called “Husky Asymptomatic”. -
POTDDoog_de_Jour said:I loved the Husky Fever stuff as a kid.
Our current marking campaign might as well be called “Husky Asymptomatic”. -
UW was the biggest deal in town in the late 80s. But Seattle itself never did like big time football. The Seattle Times would write a glowing article about the team in the Sports section with guys like Blaine Newnham. While at the same time the Northwest section would write 2 stories about how Don James was the highest paid public employee and how that was wrong and every time a football player would get a DUI.
Fans used to make UW #1. Seattle never liked them. -
It is interesting that UW football was held to a higher standard of conduct than the Seahawks. I know a big part of that is because of its ties to a publicly funded university, but don’t tell me the Seahawks, Sounders, etc. players don’t pull a lot of the same off field shenanigans that the Husky players do.Alexis said:UW was the biggest deal in town in the late 80s. But Seattle itself never did like big time football. The Seattle Times would write a glowing article about the team in the Sports section with guys like Blaine Newnham. While at the same time the Northwest section would write 2 stories about how Don James was the highest paid public employee and how that was wrong and every time a football player would get a DUI.
Fans used to make UW #1. Seattle never liked them. -
I remember going to a Seahawk game in the 80's when they had risen to average. It was the day after a Husky game. No comparison between the two atmospheres. Husky Stadium was so much more alive.
I never understood why UW AD tries so hard to have a pro atmosphere at Husky Stadium. Well, I do, it pays but it destroyed the game day
When I was young out of town scores were announced over the speaker and there was no video board and we were THANKFUL for it as we walked home uphill in the snow -
Oh come on Race, I bet you would’ve loved to have seen highlights from the Oregon Agricultural Aggie games.RaceBannon said:I remember going to a Seahawk game in the 80's when they had risen to average. It was the day after a Husky game. No comparison between the two atmospheres. Husky Stadium was so much more alive.
I never understood why UW AD tries so hard to have a pro atmosphere at Husky Stadium. Well, I do, it pays but it destroyed the game day
When I was young out of town scores were announced over the speaker and there was no video board and we were THANKFUL for it as we walked home uphill in the snow -
First Husky experience was in 74. Road tripped from EWA with my uncle and his buddies for UCLA. Sat just above the student section.
My 14 year old impressions: Lots of girls, drinking, first time I ever smelled pot...this college thing needs to be explored. My pops was a fan, because he was from Texas, and was very familiar with Owens from when he was at Okie. One of my buddies dads played for 2 years at UW in the late 50's, and he and I were pretty much the only dawg fans in a town of Cuogs.
Many cross-state trips over the years (3-4 per year, beginning in college), we had so much fun before, during, and after the games. People were passionate, knowledgeable, loud, and there for football FIRST, not to get trashed in "The Zone", or on a boat. You got trashed in your seat, watching the game. Post-game to the U district or Pioneer Square. When it was safe to be in either place (or anywhere in Seattle) after dark.
Fast forward, moved to Seattle, season tickets, different vibe now. Less a football game, more an "entertainment experience"...For me, the last remnants of the good old days was the Stanford plungering...we gave up the tix in '19...no Lou Gellerman (RIP), no good band, seizure-inducing graphics / music, students / others leaving at half time...that 'aint Husky football. Never been to a Century Link Hawk game / money grab. It sucks getting old, Time Waits for No One...give me back my Keith Jackson...
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I left out that my Dad’s name is Dave and he went to GRCC. Go Gatorz!dnc said:
My perspective is probably different than most here in that I grew up in a Seahawks family who DNGAF about UW. Dad got me hooked on the Hawks and I adopted UW on my own shortly thereafter. My Dad grew up Mormon and his family hated UW because they refused to play BYU back in the day and he had a little soft spot for the Cougs because he was from Eastern Washington. Thankfully he didn't really GAF about college football in general so he didn't discourage me from pulling for UW he just didn't care, nor did anyone else in my family. To my perspective in that 85-90 era where I first cared about sports the Seahawks were a bigger deal than the Dawgs in the area. I do think the Dawgs were a bigger deal in the early 90s - some kids at my middle school and even a few at my high school wore UW gear. It wasn't rare to see Sonics or even Mariners gear but NOBODY wore Seahawks gear at that point. Myself included.Doog_de_Jour said:On Yella’s Muzak Bored he questioned why members of grunge bands were depressed. Seattle was “way cooler” in the late eighties and early nineties, and UW football was kicking ass.
That got me wondering about Seattle and its relationship to UW and Husky Football during that era. That was a bit before my tim, so I’m curious - was Seattle as enamored with the DWAGS back in the day as it is with theHawksSoundersKraken now?
I don't think it was ever as Husky dominant as it is Seahawk dominant now (at least not in my lifetime) but I'm not there now so maybe it's not as Hawks centric as my impression. -
As an old-time Seattleite that grew up in Montlake my perspective is a little different regarding the Seattle sports scene.
Picture this:
in the 50's the big thing in Seattle was hydro racing ~ the city was NUTS about the rivalry with detroit and the gold cup was the thing that the entire town stopped and watched on the local boats, along the shoreline or on TV. TV was NEW... think about that. The most exciting TV ads were the local dairy ads for cottage cheese because the color guns on the new color tv's were out of alignment and so the cottage cheese ads looked like rainbow-colored product offerings. Cool.
Seattle was a small town that basically stopped at the city limits which was around the 7/11 on aurora that people in here are fond of referring to. Bellevue was a cow town that you needed to plan a day trip to get to because the bridge didn't exist yet. The freeway system through Seattle was just being built.
Seattle was a major league west coast city from a sports perspective in the sense that the PCL baseball league consisted of all of the major west coast teams... LA, SF, San Diego, Portland, Seattle and Vancouver BC. Throw in the Salt lake city Bees and the Hawaii Islanders and that was the league.
Same with hockey... the Western Hockey league was killer with LA, SF, Portland, Seattle and Vancouver BC and the local Canucks were a dynamite team. Seattle was definitely a great hockey town and the old ice arena really rocked... Yow, it was exciting to watch the long slap shots from the blue line amidst the smoke and air horns.
UW crew was a really big deal... it was the Dawgs and Cal vs the eastern powers of Harvard and some of the other IVY league schools.
The NFL didn't really exist on the west coast until the 49ers and Rams were introduced on the west coast... so you had your choice of which of those two teams were your local favorite.
So, the college football scene was the only game in town throughout most of the west. West coast football was a regional affair ~ UCLA, USC, Washington and Cal were the teams of note but the big ten and the big 12 were really the teams that mattered nationally. No one really expected the west coast teams to do much from a national perspective until the west coast teams actually started to do something unusual ~ some of the teams started to throw the football, sometimes as much as 20X a game [origins of the so-called West Coast Offense]
Some of the games were televised but until ABC sports started televising national games, football was all about going to the game. The metro league was an important part of the Dawgs recruiting footprint. In those days the Metro league was the best part of the local football scene, and there was a city vs state all-star game at the end of the season that the City team was usually the winner of.
It was one platoon football, the teams were small and the schedule often included luminary offerings ~ Here is the 1957 schedule:
University of Colorado SEP 21 ~ SEATTLE, WASH.
MINNESOTA SEP 28 ~ At MINNEAPOLIS AND SAINT PAUL, MINN.
OHIO STATE OCT 5 ~ SEATTLE, WASH.
UCLA OCT 12 ~ AT UCLA LOS ANGELES, CALIF.
Stanford OCT 19 ~ SEATTLE, WASH.
Oregon State OCT 26 ~ SEATTLE, WASH.
University of Southern California NOV 2 ~ SEATTLE, WASH.
University of Oregon NOV 9 ~ AT EUGENE, ORE.
University of California NOV 16 ~ AT BERKELEY, CALIF.
Washington State NOV 23 ~ SEATTLE, WASH.
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I miss WASHINGTON, dammit!DawgsCanDance said:As an old-time Seattleite that grew up in Montlake my perspective is a little different regarding the Seattle sports scene.
Picture this:
in the 50's the big thing in Seattle was hydro racing ~ the city was NUTS about the rivalry with detroit and the gold cup was the thing that the entire town stopped and watched on the local boats, along the shoreline or on TV. TV was NEW... think about that. The most exciting TV ads were the local dairy ads for cottage cheese because the color guns on the new color tv's were out of alignment and so the cottage cheese ads looked like rainbow-colored product offerings. Cool.
Seattle was a small town that basically stopped at the city limits which was around the 7/11 on aurora that people in here are fond of referring to. Bellevue was a cow town that you needed to plan a day trip to get to because the bridge didn't exist yet. The freeway system through Seattle was just being built.
Seattle was a major league west coast city from a sports perspective in the sense that the PCL baseball league consisted of all of the major west coast teams... LA, SF, San Diego, Portland, Seattle and Vancouver BC. Throw in the Salt lake city Bees and the Hawaii Islanders and that was the league.
Same with hockey... the Western Hockey league was killer with LA, SF, Portland, Seattle and Vancouver BC and the local Canucks were a dynamite team. Seattle was definitely a great hockey town and the old ice arena really rocked... Yow, it was exciting to watch the long slap shots from the blue line amidst the smoke and air horns.
UW crew was a really big deal... it was the Dawgs and Cal vs the eastern powers of Harvard and some of the other IVY league schools.
The NFL didn't really exist on the west coast until the 49ers and Rams were introduced on the west coast... so you had your choice of which of those two teams were your local favorite.
So, the college football scene was the only game in town throughout most of the west. West coast football was a regional affair ~ UCLA, USC, Washington and Cal were the teams of note but the big ten and the big 12 were really the teams that mattered nationally. No one really expected the west coast teams to do much from a national perspective until the west coast teams actually started to do something unusual ~ some of the teams started to throw the football, sometimes as much as 20X a game [origins of the so-called West Coast Offense]
Some of the games were televised but until ABC sports started televising national games, football was all about going to the game. The metro league was an important part of the Dawgs recruiting footprint. In those days the Metro league was the best part of the local football scene, and there was a city vs state all-star game at the end of the season that the City team was usually the winner of.
It was one platoon football, the teams were small and the schedule often included luminary offerings ~ Here is the 1957 schedule:
University of Colorado SEP 21 ~ SEATTLE, WASH.
MINNESOTA SEP 28 ~ At MINNEAPOLIS AND SAINT PAUL, MINN.
OHIO STATE OCT 5 ~ SEATTLE, WASH.
UCLA OCT 12 ~ AT UCLA LOS ANGELES, CALIF.
Stanford OCT 19 ~ SEATTLE, WASH.
Oregon State OCT 26 ~ SEATTLE, WASH.
University of Southern California NOV 2 ~ SEATTLE, WASH.
University of Oregon NOV 9 ~ AT EUGENE, ORE.
University of California NOV 16 ~ AT BERKELEY, CALIF.
Washington State NOV 23 ~ SEATTLE, WASH. -
Very true. But let's not forget that the local rag isn't filled with "journalists" who were San Francisco 49ers or LA Rams in college either (or Broncos or Raiders).Doog_de_Jour said:
It is interesting that UW football was held to a higher standard of conduct than the Seahawks. I know a big part of that is because of its ties to a publicly funded university, but don’t tell me the Seahawks, Sounders, etc. players don’t pull a lot of the same off field shenanigans that the Husky players do.Alexis said:UW was the biggest deal in town in the late 80s. But Seattle itself never did like big time football. The Seattle Times would write a glowing article about the team in the Sports section with guys like Blaine Newnham. While at the same time the Northwest section would write 2 stories about how Don James was the highest paid public employee and how that was wrong and every time a football player would get a DUI.
Fans used to make UW #1. Seattle never liked them. -
This would be such a fucking tits schedule if we had it today. We'd go 6-4 but still...DawgsCanDance said:As an old-time Seattleite that grew up in Montlake my perspective is a little different regarding the Seattle sports scene.
Picture this:
in the 50's the big thing in Seattle was hydro racing ~ the city was NUTS about the rivalry with detroit and the gold cup was the thing that the entire town stopped and watched on the local boats, along the shoreline or on TV. TV was NEW... think about that. The most exciting TV ads were the local dairy ads for cottage cheese because the color guns on the new color tv's were out of alignment and so the cottage cheese ads looked like rainbow-colored product offerings. Cool.
Seattle was a small town that basically stopped at the city limits which was around the 7/11 on aurora that people in here are fond of referring to. Bellevue was a cow town that you needed to plan a day trip to get to because the bridge didn't exist yet. The freeway system through Seattle was just being built.
Seattle was a major league west coast city from a sports perspective in the sense that the PCL baseball league consisted of all of the major west coast teams... LA, SF, San Diego, Portland, Seattle and Vancouver BC. Throw in the Salt lake city Bees and the Hawaii Islanders and that was the league.
Same with hockey... the Western Hockey league was killer with LA, SF, Portland, Seattle and Vancouver BC and the local Canucks were a dynamite team. Seattle was definitely a great hockey town and the old ice arena really rocked... Yow, it was exciting to watch the long slap shots from the blue line amidst the smoke and air horns.
UW crew was a really big deal... it was the Dawgs and Cal vs the eastern powers of Harvard and some of the other IVY league schools.
The NFL didn't really exist on the west coast until the 49ers and Rams were introduced on the west coast... so you had your choice of which of those two teams were your local favorite.
So, the college football scene was the only game in town throughout most of the west. West coast football was a regional affair ~ UCLA, USC, Washington and Cal were the teams of note but the big ten and the big 12 were really the teams that mattered nationally. No one really expected the west coast teams to do much from a national perspective until the west coast teams actually started to do something unusual ~ some of the teams started to throw the football, sometimes as much as 20X a game [origins of the so-called West Coast Offense]
Some of the games were televised but until ABC sports started televising national games, football was all about going to the game. The metro league was an important part of the Dawgs recruiting footprint. In those days the Metro league was the best part of the local football scene, and there was a city vs state all-star game at the end of the season that the City team was usually the winner of.
It was one platoon football, the teams were small and the schedule often included luminary offerings ~ Here is the 1957 schedule:
University of Colorado SEP 21 ~ SEATTLE, WASH.
MINNESOTA SEP 28 ~ At MINNEAPOLIS AND SAINT PAUL, MINN.
OHIO STATE OCT 5 ~ SEATTLE, WASH.
UCLA OCT 12 ~ AT UCLA LOS ANGELES, CALIF.
Stanford OCT 19 ~ SEATTLE, WASH.
Oregon State OCT 26 ~ SEATTLE, WASH.
University of Southern California NOV 2 ~ SEATTLE, WASH.
University of Oregon NOV 9 ~ AT EUGENE, ORE.
University of California NOV 16 ~ AT BERKELEY, CALIF.
Washington State NOV 23 ~ SEATTLE, WASH.
