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Trump Confidence to Win Pole - 5 weeks out edition

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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,817 Founders Club

    2020 is the year of corrupt science

    I win

    Science is science. The Corona Bros just don’t follow it.
    And you are assuming media outlets do

    Silver's science appeared to be lacking in 2016 while I had Trump from the jump
    The media outlets (other than Fox) are all in for Biden. Same as it ever was.

    The point where I disagree with many of you guysm was how off the poles were in 2016. Trump was within the margin of error (+/- 2%) in a lot of polls for the blue wall states in that year. It shouldn't have been as big of shock to the pundits as it was.

    I think the polls can definitely get it wrong from time to time. But the way its looking at the moment, they have to be off by a lot more than 2016 for Trump to win.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,875 Founders Club

    2020 is the year of corrupt science

    I win

    Science is science. The Corona Bros just don’t follow it.
    And you are assuming media outlets do

    Silver's science appeared to be lacking in 2016 while I had Trump from the jump
    The media outlets (other than Fox) are all in for Biden. Same as it ever was.

    The point where I disagree with many of you guysm was how off the poles were in 2016. Trump was within the margin of error (+/- 2%) in a lot of polls for the blue wall states in that year. It shouldn't have been as big of shock to the pundits as it was.

    I think the polls can definitely get it wrong from time to time. But the way its looking at the moment, they have to be off by a lot more than 2016 for Trump to win.
    As we have discussed the last poll is always close enough to save face. If you look at that Silver link he was WAY off while I was right. As usual

    Win percentage is the main weapon of choice. 90% Hills the day of

    Does anyone seriously think Biden is up by 13 points nationwide?
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,848 Founders Club
    If you put a gun to my head, I think Trump wins.

    Two variables at play: How big is the silent majority and to what lengths will the left stuff the ballots?

    It's pretty clear the media will run cover for any trash canned Trump ballets and not bat an eye when more dead people show up to vote D. They are all in on this front.

    How many people are sitting on their hands, itching to get rid of this mad Max antifa bullshit in the streets? How many middle class average Joe's just doing the best they can are tired of being called racist for expecting law and order and accountability?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,875 Founders Club
    The Governor of Texas has restricted drop off boxes for mail in ballots meaning more people will have to mail in the mail in ballot.

    The left, who a week ago was defending the Post Office to the death is calling this voter suppression and an outrage

    Abbott (R) Texas says the drop off boxes are not secure. Trump (R) America says the PO is not secure. Biden (D) The Basement said huh?

    I'm with Joe
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,842
    Trump wins bigger than he did in 2016

    Cook it
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,817 Founders Club

    2020 is the year of corrupt science

    I win

    Science is science. The Corona Bros just don’t follow it.
    And you are assuming media outlets do

    Silver's science appeared to be lacking in 2016 while I had Trump from the jump
    The media outlets (other than Fox) are all in for Biden. Same as it ever was.

    The point where I disagree with many of you guysm was how off the poles were in 2016. Trump was within the margin of error (+/- 2%) in a lot of polls for the blue wall states in that year. It shouldn't have been as big of shock to the pundits as it was.

    I think the polls can definitely get it wrong from time to time. But the way its looking at the moment, they have to be off by a lot more than 2016 for Trump to win.
    As we have discussed the last poll is always close enough to save face. If you look at that Silver link he was WAY off while I was right. As usual

    Win percentage is the main weapon of choice. 90% Hills the day of

    Does anyone seriously think Biden is up by 13 points nationwide?
    Let's clean a few things up, shall we:

    1- Biden isn't ahead by 13 pts nationally. The RCP national average has been around 7 for a while. But NOC about the national number. The RCP average for in places like OH, FL and NC has been a dead heat ( i.e., Biden up by 1- 3 pts). I think it's probable he holds serve in these states. Biden's polling lead in MI, WI and PA is larger (around 5% in each state). If he can't close the gap to like 2 or 3 points down I don't see it happening.

    2- Silver didn't flex Trump to 28% last minute in 2016 to not look bad. It varied from time to time, but there were points along the way where they had Trump in a dead heat. For example 50.1% chance to win on July 30, 2016 and 45.2% on Sept. 26.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/




  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,875 Founders Club
    MSN home page today Biden opens 13 point lead after debates

    Fact

    Close poll favors Trump who is underrepresented

    Fact

    Silver blew the 16 election. I didn't

    Fact

  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,842
    Let me help you Silver dick sucking idiots out

    Did Trump lose the support that won him the swing states in 2016? No

    Do those voters know that things were as good as theyve ever been economically in this country before the covid scam? Yes

    Do those voters think the Dems shutting down everything over a bad flu is a good idea? No

    Are many of these voters pissed their livelihood has been shit on by a bad flu? Yes

    Do those voters want to defund the police? No

    Do those voters agree with riots burning businesses? No

    Is anyone on the Left excited by a Biden/Harris ticket? No



    Pretty simple really. Trump has not lost his base, Biden has no enthusiasm. It's game over before it even started

    But but but the national polls and media!! You chumps learned nothing 4 years ago
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,817 Founders Club

    Let me help you Silver dick sucking idiots out

    Did Trump lose the support that won him the swing states in 2016? No

    Do those voters know that things were as good as theyve ever been economically in this country before the covid scam? Yes

    Do those voters think the Dems shutting down everything over a bad flu is a good idea? No

    Are many of these voters pissed their livelihood has been shit on by a bad flu? Yes

    Do those voters want to defund the police? No

    Do those voters agree with riots burning businesses? No

    Is anyone on the Left excited by a Biden/Harris ticket? No



    Pretty simple really. Trump has not lost his base, Biden has no enthusiasm. It's game over before it even started

    But but but the national polls and media!! You chumps learned nothing 4 years ago

    He won the blue wall rust belt states by a c-hair against the most hated Dem nominee in a long time. Biden sucks and is senile old geezer, but isn't hated to the degree Hillary was/is. You don't think things could change by a few hundred thousand votes?
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,842

    Let me help you Silver dick sucking idiots out

    Did Trump lose the support that won him the swing states in 2016? No

    Do those voters know that things were as good as theyve ever been economically in this country before the covid scam? Yes

    Do those voters think the Dems shutting down everything over a bad flu is a good idea? No

    Are many of these voters pissed their livelihood has been shit on by a bad flu? Yes

    Do those voters want to defund the police? No

    Do those voters agree with riots burning businesses? No

    Is anyone on the Left excited by a Biden/Harris ticket? No



    Pretty simple really. Trump has not lost his base, Biden has no enthusiasm. It's game over before it even started

    But but but the national polls and media!! You chumps learned nothing 4 years ago

    He won the blue wall rust belt states by a c-hair against the most hated Dem nominee in a long time. Biden sucks and is senile old geezer, but isn't hated to the degree Hillary was/is. You don't think things could change by a few hundred thousand votes?
    Nope. The same people that hate Hillary hate Biden. Hth