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HHusky
HHusky Member Posts: 23,905
we didn't panic.


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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,939 Founders Club
    How many lives would panic have saved?

    Woodward obviously thought book sales were more important that getting the story out
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,905

    You certainly kept your head, and discerned what guidelines to ignore.

    Just doing my part.

    (You're aware essential travel is not against any advisory, I trust.)
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,939 Founders Club
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,232 Standard Supporter
    50,000

    Maybe 75,000

    Ugly flu bug.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,905

    How many lives would panic have saved?

    Woodward obviously thought book sales were more important that getting the story out

    Our only two choices when faced with adversity are (1) panic or (2) pretend there isn't a problem.

    That's obvious.
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117

    Did another 78 year old with stage 4 colon cancer and late stage dementia who happened to have Covid die again?

    6.5 million cases is a joke. I'd be shocked if the real number is under 30mil.

    And the death totals are and have always been inflated
    , because any death of a Covid patient regardless if Covid is the primary cause or not is counted.

    But continue to hide in your parent's basement champ.

    Actually the death count is probably under counted right now. Excess deaths in the US from March-July was 200k over the average year.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/08/12/us/covid-deaths-us.html

    Across the United States, at least 200,000 more people have died than usual since March, according to a New York Times analysis of estimates from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. This is about 60,000 higher than the number of deaths that have been directly linked to the coronavirus.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,939 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    How many lives would panic have saved?

    Woodward obviously thought book sales were more important that getting the story out

    Our only two choices when faced with adversity are (1) panic or (2) pretend there isn't a problem.

    That's obvious.
    Or hold the book until election time

    It was that big of a story
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,939 Founders Club
    Good thing Trump signed that EO for the extra 300 bucks a week in UI
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    edited September 2020

    Did another 78 year old with stage 4 colon cancer and late stage dementia who happened to have Covid die again?

    6.5 million cases is a joke. I'd be shocked if the real number is under 30mil.

    And the death totals are and have always been inflated
    , because any death of a Covid patient regardless if Covid is the primary cause or not is counted.

    But continue to hide in your parent's basement champ.

    Actually the death count is probably under counted right now. Excess deaths in the US from March-July was 200k over the average year.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/08/12/us/covid-deaths-us.html

    Across the United States, at least 200,000 more people have died than usual since March, according to a New York Times analysis of estimates from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. This is about 60,000 higher than the number of deaths that have been directly linked to the coronavirus.
    200k over what number? I'm sure the rise has nothing to do with the increase in obesity, boomers getting older, cancer rates at all time highs, suicide rate increases, etc. But I guess since a lot of these deaths could be linked to issues involving isolation and unemployment, due the virus, they also count as Covid death.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560

    Are democrats tanking for the lottery pick?
    Democrats can't help but to shoot themselves over this thing.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    Are democrats tanking for the lottery pick?
    Democrats can't help but to shoot themselves over this thing.
    Seems more calculated to me. Much fewer people will pay attention to the nuances of congressional negotiations than will feel the economic pain at the ballot box come November.

    We're well past the point of actual governance and legislating paying off. Letting the majority party foot the bill for inaction has become the go-to strategy.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,939 Founders Club
    Unemployment payments are a state thing and the governors originally said no to the 300 then said yes They heard from people who understand

    Now the democrats are letting Trump EO the money to the people. I get the plan but seems risky IMO

    Are democrats tanking for the lottery pick?
    Democrats can't help but to shoot themselves over this thing.
    Seems more calculated to me. Much fewer people will pay attention to the nuances of congressional negotiations than will feel the economic pain at the ballot box come November.

    We're well past the point of actual governance and legislating paying off. Letting the majority party foot the bill for inaction has become the go-to strategy.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    Unemployment payments are a state thing and the governors originally said no to the 300 then said yes They heard from people who understand

    Now the democrats are letting Trump EO the money to the people. I get the plan but seems risky IMO

    Are democrats tanking for the lottery pick?
    Democrats can't help but to shoot themselves over this thing.
    Seems more calculated to me. Much fewer people will pay attention to the nuances of congressional negotiations than will feel the economic pain at the ballot box come November.

    We're well past the point of actual governance and legislating paying off. Letting the majority party foot the bill for inaction has become the go-to strategy.
    But no expanded small business relief and that UE backstop is only half of the first iteration. We've only had a little over a month with the stimulus spicket turned off. Things are going to get worse fast, especially with evictions picking up steam.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,939 Founders Club

    Unemployment payments are a state thing and the governors originally said no to the 300 then said yes They heard from people who understand

    Now the democrats are letting Trump EO the money to the people. I get the plan but seems risky IMO

    Are democrats tanking for the lottery pick?
    Democrats can't help but to shoot themselves over this thing.
    Seems more calculated to me. Much fewer people will pay attention to the nuances of congressional negotiations than will feel the economic pain at the ballot box come November.

    We're well past the point of actual governance and legislating paying off. Letting the majority party foot the bill for inaction has become the go-to strategy.
    But no expanded small business relief and that UE backstop is only half of the first iteration. We've only had a little over a month with the stimulus spicket turned off. Things are going to get worse fast, especially with evictions picking up steam.
    I know they are. Warned about it in March. Probably could have used some panic on what we? did to the economy.

    I get daily updates from my wife on the shit Newsom is pulling. Its all about the illegals while he was saying no to the 300 bucks. She hates him with the flames of a thousand burning suns.

    Trump gets and will continue to get blame but when you have Queen Nancy and her ice cream while people's lives crumble there is room to spread it around
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,682 Founders Club

    Unemployment payments are a state thing and the governors originally said no to the 300 then said yes They heard from people who understand

    Now the democrats are letting Trump EO the money to the people. I get the plan but seems risky IMO

    Are democrats tanking for the lottery pick?
    Democrats can't help but to shoot themselves over this thing.
    Seems more calculated to me. Much fewer people will pay attention to the nuances of congressional negotiations than will feel the economic pain at the ballot box come November.

    We're well past the point of actual governance and legislating paying off. Letting the majority party foot the bill for inaction has become the go-to strategy.
    But no expanded small business relief and that UE backstop is only half of the first iteration. We've only had a little over a month with the stimulus spicket turned off. Things are going to get worse fast, especially with evictions picking up steam.
    Marx hated the petite bourgeois, aka the small business owner and working class. He hated them because they were mostly set reliant had some ambition to get to the top tier and were not easy to radicalize as a result. But their support and action was necessary for revolution. So what do you do? You kill their ability to be self sufficient with fast economic meltdown so they don’t have time to react to maintain status. Now you can radicalize them.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,630 Standard Supporter
    In AZ, folks are mooching off the $300
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,246 Standard Supporter
    HHusky too stupid to see the long game. Kill off all the old, unhealthy people and Medicaire and Social Security might actually become solvent.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,246 Standard Supporter

    Unemployment payments are a state thing and the governors originally said no to the 300 then said yes They heard from people who understand

    Now the democrats are letting Trump EO the money to the people. I get the plan but seems risky IMO

    Are democrats tanking for the lottery pick?
    Democrats can't help but to shoot themselves over this thing.
    Seems more calculated to me. Much fewer people will pay attention to the nuances of congressional negotiations than will feel the economic pain at the ballot box come November.

    We're well past the point of actual governance and legislating paying off. Letting the majority party foot the bill for inaction has become the go-to strategy.
    But no expanded small business relief and that UE backstop is only half of the first iteration. We've only had a little over a month with the stimulus spicket turned off. Things are going to get worse fast, especially with evictions picking up steam.
    Evictions are not actually picking up steam. No data supports that statement right now.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,905

    HHusky too stupid to see the long game. Kill off all the old, unhealthy people and Medicaire and Social Security might actually become solvent.

    Fuck off. I was advocating this back when you girls were against it.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    Unemployment payments are a state thing and the governors originally said no to the 300 then said yes They heard from people who understand

    Now the democrats are letting Trump EO the money to the people. I get the plan but seems risky IMO

    Are democrats tanking for the lottery pick?
    Democrats can't help but to shoot themselves over this thing.
    Seems more calculated to me. Much fewer people will pay attention to the nuances of congressional negotiations than will feel the economic pain at the ballot box come November.

    We're well past the point of actual governance and legislating paying off. Letting the majority party foot the bill for inaction has become the go-to strategy.
    But no expanded small business relief and that UE backstop is only half of the first iteration. We've only had a little over a month with the stimulus spicket turned off. Things are going to get worse fast, especially with evictions picking up steam.
    Evictions are not actually picking up steam. No data supports that statement right now.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/09/01/business/eviction-moratorium-order.amp.html

    I intentionally chose that phrase because the bar for "picking up steam" is comically low considering there's been federal and municipal bans on evictions for much of the pandemic.

    The article above details how that moratorium for renters of federally backed mortgaged properties expired at the end of July. There's an extension in place, but it's done on an application basis and is a relatively lukewarm measure.

    The rest of the country's renters are at the mercy of their city or state. These renters in Texas are already getting the boot.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.texastribune.org/2020/08/25/texas-evictions-coronavirus/amp/

    You'd be naive to think more aren't coming.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,682 Founders Club

    Did another 78 year old with stage 4 colon cancer and late stage dementia who happened to have Covid die again?

    6.5 million cases is a joke. I'd be shocked if the real number is under 30mil.

    And the death totals are and have always been inflated
    , because any death of a Covid patient regardless if Covid is the primary cause or not is counted.

    But continue to hide in your parent's basement champ.

    Actually the death count is probably under counted right now. Excess deaths in the US from March-July was 200k over the average year.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/08/12/us/covid-deaths-us.html

    Across the United States, at least 200,000 more people have died than usual since March, according to a New York Times analysis of estimates from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. This is about 60,000 higher than the number of deaths that have been directly linked to the coronavirus.
    This is a bad take even for you.