A Tale of Two Conventions

Swaye

I watched some of the DNC convention, and some of the RNC last night. Independent of your political philosophy, anyone else struck by the general tone differences? The GOP (last night anyway) seemed to be a message of opportunity. The DNC was full of grievance. One group says America is great and can be better. The other says America is deeply flawed and needs complete cleansing. The contrast is sharp and clear.

Bendintheriver

Well put. That is exactly the perspective I had. One uplifting and counting on people to take advantage of what the country has provided each of us and the other telling everyone they are a victim, that the country is horribly flawed and that big government has the answer to everything.

A 4 year politician/businessman who did his part to widen the possibilities for all Americans and truly believes in the greatness of this country and the other a very flawed and failed, lifetime 47 year establishment politician who is too afraid to come out of his basement and is not very proud of this country that has given him so much. 47 years and this is his perspective. Pretty sad.

GrundleStiltzkin

https://twitter.com/zaidjilani/status/1298113690617745409?s=21

GrundleStiltzkin

https://twitter.com/formernewspaper/status/1298215895630778368?s=21

NorthwestFresh

GrundleStiltzkin said:

https://twitter.com/zaidjilani/status/1298113690617745409?s=21

Says a lot more about how this guy thinks about Black* people than it does anything else. It’s like the Lincoln Project yesterday with the Tweet they deleted about hearing “monkey” instead of “Spygate” when Trump was talking about Obama and spying. Malcolm X was correct about white liberals. They still think they own Black* people and patronize the entire group based solely on skin color. They aren’t diverse according to Joe Biden, and that’s their top of ticket. The blatant racism is obvious yet white liberals love it.

creepycoug

Swaye said:

I watched some of the DNC convention, and some of the RNC last night. Independent of your political philosophy, anyone else struck by the general tone differences? The GOP (last night anyway) seemed to be a message of opportunity. The DNC was full of grievance. One group says America is great and can be better. The other says America is deeply flawed and needs complete cleansing. The contrast is sharp and clear.

Pretty much.

RoadTrip

Swaye said:

I watched some of the DNC convention, and some of the RNC last night. Independent of your political philosophy, anyone else struck by the general tone differences? The GOP (last night anyway) seemed to be a message of opportunity. The DNC was full of grievance. One group says America is great and can be better. The other says America is deeply flawed and needs complete cleansing. The contrast is sharp and clear.

Probably why you're successful and love life. Compare you to posters like H, IC and Bears and you'll see the same contrast.

PurpleThrobber

Americans like winners.

Trump 34-17.

Pitchfork51

I mean conservatives are generally cool and successful and leftists are the fat 38 year old women complaining that life is rigged and there aint no good men

RoadTrip

Pitchfork51 said:

I mean conservatives are generally cool and successful and leftists are the fat 38 year old women complaining that life is rigged and there aint no good men

Or the hyper-insecure hollyweid types who will never be happy no matter who they're sleeping with or how much money they have.

NorthwestFresh

RoadTrip said:

Pitchfork51 said:

I mean conservatives are generally cool and successful and leftists are the fat 38 year old women complaining that life is rigged and there aint no good men

Or the hyper-insecure hollyweid types who will never be happy no matter who they're sleeping with or how much money they have.

Or how many children they molest.

HuskyJW

Swaye said:

I watched some of the DNC convention, and some of the RNC last night. Independent of your political philosophy, anyone else struck by the general tone differences? The GOP (last night anyway) seemed to be a message of opportunity. The DNC was full of grievance. One group says America is great and can be better. The other says America is deeply flawed and needs complete cleansing. The contrast is sharp and clear.

With all due respect....what else would it be?

Why would the DNC say everything is great with a Republican as President?

MelloDawg

HuskyJW said:

Swaye said:

I watched some of the DNC convention, and some of the RNC last night. Independent of your political philosophy, anyone else struck by the general tone differences? The GOP (last night anyway) seemed to be a message of opportunity. The DNC was full of grievance. One group says America is great and can be better. The other says America is deeply flawed and needs complete cleansing. The contrast is sharp and clear.

With all due respect....what else would it be?

Why would the DNC say everything is great with a Republican as President?

This.

Sledog

HuskyJW said:

Swaye said:

I watched some of the DNC convention, and some of the RNC last night. Independent of your political philosophy, anyone else struck by the general tone differences? The GOP (last night anyway) seemed to be a message of opportunity. The DNC was full of grievance. One group says America is great and can be better. The other says America is deeply flawed and needs complete cleansing. The contrast is sharp and clear.

With all due respect....what else would it be?

Why would the DNC say everything is great with a Republican as President?

MelloDawg said:

HuskyJW said:

Swaye said:

I watched some of the DNC convention, and some of the RNC last night. Independent of your political philosophy, anyone else struck by the general tone differences? The GOP (last night anyway) seemed to be a message of opportunity. The DNC was full of grievance. One group says America is great and can be better. The other says America is deeply flawed and needs complete cleansing. The contrast is sharp and clear.

With all due respect....what else would it be?

Why would the DNC say everything is great with a Republican as President?

This.

Only if you think you are currently living under a dictatorship and aren't free. But the lefts promising exactly that!

RaceBannon

HuskyJW said:

Swaye said:

I watched some of the DNC convention, and some of the RNC last night. Independent of your political philosophy, anyone else struck by the general tone differences? The GOP (last night anyway) seemed to be a message of opportunity. The DNC was full of grievance. One group says America is great and can be better. The other says America is deeply flawed and needs complete cleansing. The contrast is sharp and clear.

With all due respect....what else would it be?

Why would the DNC say everything is great with a Republican as President?

You could present an alternative that is better than this veil of tears we live in now

Instead we got 4 nights of America sucks

Good luck with that

Swaye

HuskyJW said:

Swaye said:

I watched some of the DNC convention, and some of the RNC last night. Independent of your political philosophy, anyone else struck by the general tone differences? The GOP (last night anyway) seemed to be a message of opportunity. The DNC was full of grievance. One group says America is great and can be better. The other says America is deeply flawed and needs complete cleansing. The contrast is sharp and clear.

With all due respect....what else would it be?

Why would the DNC say everything is great with a Republican as President?

That's a fair statement. To me, it's one thing to say "hey we got problems but Trump is the root of them," and it's another to imply "America is fundamentally unfair and broken and out to screw you." I think they say a bunch of both, or that is the feeling I got watching it. YMMV.

The first part I expect to hear, but the second part is one of the big reasons I am so turned off on modern Democrats. It feels like they think America is some shithole failure that needs to be blown up, as opposed to a a generally good but flawed country that with little tweaks can be made better. I feel liek the GOP messaging is "America kicks ass and with just a few tweaks we can really make this place perfect," whereas I feel like modern Dems think "fuck this place it's all fucked up let's blow it all up and start over." Again, my read may be colored because I HATE social justice and division politics, which the Dems have been peddling harder than ever the last 4 years.

HuskyJW

Swaye said:

HuskyJW said:

Swaye said:

I watched some of the DNC convention, and some of the RNC last night. Independent of your political philosophy, anyone else struck by the general tone differences? The GOP (last night anyway) seemed to be a message of opportunity. The DNC was full of grievance. One group says America is great and can be better. The other says America is deeply flawed and needs complete cleansing. The contrast is sharp and clear.

With all due respect....what else would it be?

Why would the DNC say everything is great with a Republican as President?

That's a fair statement. To me, it's one thing to say "hey we got problems but Trump is the root of them," and it's another to imply "America is fundamentally unfair and broken and out to screw you." I think they say a bunch of both, or that is the feeling I got watching it. YMMV.

The first part I expect to hear, but the second part is one of the big reasons I am so turned off on modern Democrats. It feels like they think America is some shithole failure that needs to be blown up, as opposed to a a generally good but flawed country that with little tweaks can be made better. I feel liek the GOP messaging is "America kicks ass and with just a few tweaks we can really make this place perfect," whereas I feel like modern Dems think "fuck this place it's all fucked up let's blow it all up and start over." Again, my read may be colored because I HATE social justice and division politics, which the Dems have been peddling harder than ever the last 4 years.

I can agree with this statement

The roles were reversed 8 years ago so if it’s your guy....the world is great. If it’s not...the world is awful and you are going to get screwed.

Cleaning out my mom’s garage last week....LDD and I found a newspaper from over 20 years ago. The two big editorials were why marijuana should be legal....and mail in voting. We had belly laughs over that one.

Bendintheriver

Well put. That is exactly the perspective I had. One uplifting and cou

HuskyJW said:

Swaye said:

I watched some of the DNC convention, and some of the RNC last night. Independent of your political philosophy, anyone else struck by the general tone differences? The GOP (last night anyway) seemed to be a message of opportunity. The DNC was full of grievance. One group says America is great and can be better. The other says America is deeply flawed and needs complete cleansing. The contrast is sharp and clear.

With all due respect....what else would it be?

Why would the DNC say everything is great with a Republican as President?

Did you watch the DNC Convention? The hate for Trump (in reality he represents everyone who doesn't think like rats, that's why they hate him so much). Even when they weren't blaming Trump for their woes and victimization they were constantly telling Americans that they were living in a hell hole. That there is a racist around every corner. Their entire convention was wrapped around dividing the races. That is not because of Trump, that is all the dem platform. You know why I know this? Its because it has been their platform for 3 decades.

HuskyJW

Bendintheriver said:

Well put. That is exactly the perspective I had. One uplifting and cou

HuskyJW said:

Swaye said:

I watched some of the DNC convention, and some of the RNC last night. Independent of your political philosophy, anyone else struck by the general tone differences? The GOP (last night anyway) seemed to be a message of opportunity. The DNC was full of grievance. One group says America is great and can be better. The other says America is deeply flawed and needs complete cleansing. The contrast is sharp and clear.

With all due respect....what else would it be?

Why would the DNC say everything is great with a Republican as President?

Did you watch the DNC Convention? The hate for Trump (in reality he represents everyone who doesn't think like rats, that's why they hate him so much). Even when they weren't blaming Trump for their woes and victimization they were constantly telling Americans that they were living in a hell hole. That there is a racist around every corner. Their entire convention was wrapped around dividing the races. That is not because of Trump, that is all the dem platform. You know why I know this? Its because it has been their platform for 3 decades.

You don’t need to namecall.....be better

RaceBannon

The Democrats have been fighting for minorities for 50 years

Things have never been worse for minorities




The essential problem with political rhetoric

Southerndawg

RaceBannon said:

The Democrats have been fighting for minoritiesminority votes via government dependence and racial division for 50 years

Things have never been worse for minorities




The essential problem with political rhetoric coupled with a wanton lust for evermore power and control