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Uber/Lyft Looking to Shut Down in California Tomorrow
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The judge put a stay in until October
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Surprised the stay wasn’t extended until November 4th. I’m sure it will be soon.Goduckies said:The judge put a stay in until October
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The drivers want to be independent contractors because they can deduct their expenses including the cost of the car. If you are an employee, then you get no business deductions and are taxed on your wages. No car expenses.
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Not totally correct. Uber/Lyft would have to reimburse drivers for the cost of using driver's vehicle. 58c per mile adds up, to be honest..WestlinnDuck said:The drivers want to be independent contractors because they can deduct their expenses including the cost of the car. If you are an employee, then you get no business deductions and are taxed on your wages. No car expenses.
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Not that I don't believe you, just trying to learn more about this.
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When I’ve taken Uber or Lyft, the driver is often working for both services on a 1099 contract. How does that continue when both companies have to claim drivers as employees? I don’t see how it’s possible without an employee contract involved. Coke and Pepsi aren’t going to employ the same W-4 employee simultaneously. Uber and Lyft work because of the 1099 contracts of their drivers. California is in deep, deep shit if all 1099 workers are eventually eliminated.WestlinnDuck said:The drivers want to be independent contractors because they can deduct their expenses including the cost of the car. If you are an employee, then you get no business deductions and are taxed on your wages. No car expenses.
Liberalism is a mental order. They have no idea how successful businesses grow and survive. Are most voters in CA local, state, or federal government workers? That’s the only way this law makes sense for there not being protests in Sacramento. -
Free lance journalists have been "fired" because the cost of registering your out of state publication in Cali is outrageous. When we speak of high taxes and regulatory burden on businesses this is a perfect example. Making them employees is a very high regulatory hurdle. So high at this point businesses just stop paying Californians rather than comply.
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The talk was 35 cents a mile reimbursement from uber and 25 an hour... while in a ride. What happens when you have no ride etc. And then for me I was most profitable at events. That is gone. The reason I did it even though I have a degree and worked in finance is that if I was smart I could make close to what I made as a banker in actual cash in.pocket, yet I could work when I wanted. Some weeks I worked one day some weeks 7 if I was going on vacation I would work 3 weeks straight. But then I could go to the beach on a random day and have no boss to say no. Or I could go to the beach during the day( fridays) amd.work through bar close.
And events... best ride 280 bucks for an hours worth of driving and i got those at least once a week -
The reason ab5 was pushed forward was two fold... there are a lot of dumb drivers who take every ride and don't think for themselves so they would barely make anything and the state was getting no money from us because of the deduction. So this only helps the idiot drivers not the smart ones.
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For Drivers who want to drive for both, nothing changes. Each trip is independent of every other trip. ( Teamsters are muscling in to change that)
Uber or Lyft will simply calculate .58/mile for your 6 block trip and tag it onto your receipt like the airport fee and county tax, city tax, insurance fee that they do now.
