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Uber/Lyft Looking to Shut Down in California Tomorrow

NorthwestFresh
NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
Awesome state government. I’d say watch DUIs skyrocket, but will there be any police to make arrests? Time to get robbed and stabbed on BART instead. Fun times.



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  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,697 Standard Supporter
    Might have to actually use a taxi
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    Might have to actually use a taxi

    Pay twice as much and as a bonus the smell of piss and puke in the cab. How progressive.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662

    Might have to actually use a taxi

    Pay twice as much and as a bonus the smell of piss and puke in the cab. How progressive.
    Ugh the bad old days


    At least half of mine were free

    "My card machine doesn't work"

    "Welp I don't have cash so go fuck yourself. Peace"
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    Lyft officially down, Uber to soon follow.

    https://apple.news/A1ftb9MNeT62epeBO7eJr6g


    Lyft said it is suspending service in California as of midnight PT Thursday because a court allowed a requirement that it reclassify drivers as employees.

    Uber and Lyft warned last week they would likely have to suspend their ride-hailing services to comply with the court order, which would force them to restructure their operations and rehire workers. 

    Uber has not made a formal announcement about suspending service in California, but it is expected to do so
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Lyft officially down, Uber to soon follow.

    https://apple.news/A1ftb9MNeT62epeBO7eJr6g


    Lyft said it is suspending service in California as of midnight PT Thursday because a court allowed a requirement that it reclassify drivers as employees.

    Uber and Lyft warned last week they would likely have to suspend their ride-hailing services to comply with the court order, which would force them to restructure their operations and rehire workers. 

    Uber has not made a formal announcement about suspending service in California, but it is expected to do so

    Good thing the economy is so strong right now and all of those people making a few dollars working for Uber or Lyft will be able to find jobs elsewhere. And it's not as if anyone is really using Uber Eats or Doordash right now.
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    SFGbob said:

    Lyft officially down, Uber to soon follow.

    https://apple.news/A1ftb9MNeT62epeBO7eJr6g


    Lyft said it is suspending service in California as of midnight PT Thursday because a court allowed a requirement that it reclassify drivers as employees.

    Uber and Lyft warned last week they would likely have to suspend their ride-hailing services to comply with the court order, which would force them to restructure their operations and rehire workers. 

    Uber has not made a formal announcement about suspending service in California, but it is expected to do so

    Good thing the economy is so strong right now and all of those people making a few dollars working for Uber or Lyft will be able to find jobs elsewhere. And it's not as if anyone is really using Uber Eats or Doordash right now.
    Wait until the liberals assholes in Los Altos find out it’s going to take half a day to get their $300 of shitty PF Chang’s delivered for their kids and their friends, or much worse, they have to do takeout.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662

    SFGbob said:

    Lyft officially down, Uber to soon follow.

    https://apple.news/A1ftb9MNeT62epeBO7eJr6g


    Lyft said it is suspending service in California as of midnight PT Thursday because a court allowed a requirement that it reclassify drivers as employees.

    Uber and Lyft warned last week they would likely have to suspend their ride-hailing services to comply with the court order, which would force them to restructure their operations and rehire workers. 

    Uber has not made a formal announcement about suspending service in California, but it is expected to do so

    Good thing the economy is so strong right now and all of those people making a few dollars working for Uber or Lyft will be able to find jobs elsewhere. And it's not as if anyone is really using Uber Eats or Doordash right now.
    Wait until the liberals assholes in Los Altos find out it’s going to take half a day to get their $300 of shitty PF Chang’s delivered for their kids and their friends, or much worse, they have to do takeout.
    Takeout is for peasants
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 8,004 Standard Supporter
    edited August 2020
    The judge put a stay in until October
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    Goduckies said:

    The judge put a stay in until October

    Surprised the stay wasn’t extended until November 4th. I’m sure it will be soon.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,671 Standard Supporter
    The drivers want to be independent contractors because they can deduct their expenses including the cost of the car. If you are an employee, then you get no business deductions and are taxed on your wages. No car expenses.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,481 Founders Club

    The drivers want to be independent contractors because they can deduct their expenses including the cost of the car. If you are an employee, then you get no business deductions and are taxed on your wages. No car expenses.

    Not totally correct. Uber/Lyft would have to reimburse drivers for the cost of using driver's vehicle. 58c per mile adds up, to be honest..
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,671 Standard Supporter
    Not that I don't believe you, just trying to learn more about this.
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    edited August 2020

    The drivers want to be independent contractors because they can deduct their expenses including the cost of the car. If you are an employee, then you get no business deductions and are taxed on your wages. No car expenses.

    When I’ve taken Uber or Lyft, the driver is often working for both services on a 1099 contract. How does that continue when both companies have to claim drivers as employees? I don’t see how it’s possible without an employee contract involved. Coke and Pepsi aren’t going to employ the same W-4 employee simultaneously. Uber and Lyft work because of the 1099 contracts of their drivers. California is in deep, deep shit if all 1099 workers are eventually eliminated.

    Liberalism is a mental order. They have no idea how successful businesses grow and survive. Are most voters in CA local, state, or federal government workers? That’s the only way this law makes sense for there not being protests in Sacramento.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,671 Standard Supporter
    Free lance journalists have been "fired" because the cost of registering your out of state publication in Cali is outrageous. When we speak of high taxes and regulatory burden on businesses this is a perfect example. Making them employees is a very high regulatory hurdle. So high at this point businesses just stop paying Californians rather than comply.
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 8,004 Standard Supporter
    The reason ab5 was pushed forward was two fold... there are a lot of dumb drivers who take every ride and don't think for themselves so they would barely make anything and the state was getting no money from us because of the deduction. So this only helps the idiot drivers not the smart ones.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited August 2020
    For Drivers who want to drive for both, nothing changes. Each trip is independent of every other trip. ( Teamsters are muscling in to change that)

    Uber or Lyft will simply calculate .58/mile for your 6 block trip and tag it onto your receipt like the airport fee and county tax, city tax, insurance fee that they do now.
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    doogie said:

    For Drivers who want to drive for both, nothing changes. Each trip is independent of every other trip. ( Teamsters are muscling in to change that)

    Uber or Lyft will simply calculate .58/mile for your 6 block trip and tag it onto your receipt like the airport fee and county tax, city tax, insurance fee that they do now.

    It changes a lot for the driver, doesn’t it?
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited August 2020
    Union dues, assigned times and areas to drive, mileage charges, driver benefit charges, local/state taxes Yes, there are rumors of big changes coming to a Rideshare receipt near you

    There are rumors of other entrants on the sidelines when Lyft and Uber stop running. Other than Waymo, who?.gif.

    Lyft and Uber are Coke and Pepsi now and everything else is just cola at this point. The two big Dawgs are happy to let “New entrants waiting on the sidelines with dicks in hands” wrestle with California Regulators for awhile and deal with other locals who are serious about dealing to set the agenda.

    California losing tens of thousands of rides overnight forces workers back into transit, like it or not.

    It’s also best to double/triple the cost of something After an election
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 8,004 Standard Supporter
    doogie said:

    For Drivers who want to drive for both, nothing changes. Each trip is independent of every other trip. ( Teamsters are muscling in to change that)

    Uber or Lyft will simply calculate .58/mile for your 6 block trip and tag it onto your receipt like the airport fee and county tax, city tax, insurance fee that they do now.

    That isn't clear at all doggie
  • tap1thur29weretaken
    tap1thur29weretaken Member Posts: 64
    Best discussion topic in history of Pacific Online Washington University message board.

    Death to Uber and Lyft!
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Goduckies said:

    doogie said:

    For Drivers who want to drive for both, nothing changes. Each trip is independent of every other trip. ( Teamsters are muscling in to change that)

    Uber or Lyft will simply calculate .58/mile for your 6 block trip and tag it onto your receipt like the airport fee and county tax, city tax, insurance fee that they do now.

    That isn't clear at all doggie
    Agree that nothing is for sure in the future of ride share but, it’s trending this way from my angle.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited August 2020

    Best discussion topic in history of Pacific Online Washington University message board.

    Death to Uber and Lyft!

    sure. gif

    People like their on demand mobility. Now that everyone wants to stick a hand in the cookie jar, let’s see what folks are willing to pay.
  • tap1thur29weretaken
    tap1thur29weretaken Member Posts: 64
    doogie said:

    Best discussion topic in history of Pacific Online Washington University message board.

    Death to Uber and Lyft!

    sure. gif

    People like their on demand mobility. Now that everyone wants to stick a hand in the cookie jar, let’s see what folks are willing to pay.
    Notice Mr. @doogie that these are astonishing events in the history of transportation. We have these incidents in our past and in our history of piety. Many people of California are prepared to sacrifice Uber and Lyft with own hands, with complete willingness!

    You might wish to be portraying a dark picture of the situation with hundreds of tongues and hundreds of means. If there is a strong point in your country, they deny it outright. They either maintain silence or deny it completely. Well, good tasks are being carried out in the country, but none of them, whatsoever, is reflected in America ride sharing smartphone applications. If there is a weakness, they magnify it ten, and sometimes, a hundred times. Why do they do so? They do it in order to undermine the people’s morale and hope, in particular that of your youth. This is because when youth are hopeful, they become extraordinarily dynamic. Youth play a pioneering and leading role. However, if they have no hope, they stop moving, like a taxi car which runs out of gas. They stop moving without hope.

    We do hope residents of Bear Republic consider alternative, Tapsi/Tap30 ride sharing application!

    https://youtu.be/FJaqDWfLTaU

    Tapsi/Tap30.ir
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 8,004 Standard Supporter
    With the stay until October that means they only have to shit down one month until the election. All I know is that being an employee is not a good thing. I would've thousands in income and my freedom
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,573 Founders Club
    This is an interesting thread.