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Remember when Australia was praised as the model for stopping the Rona?

MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
edited August 2020 in Tug Tavern
And the CoronaBros said Trump fucked it up and the USA citizens are dumbshits?

Are it turns, it's all bullshit and we never should have locked down. Sweden did it right.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN255034

Looks like they aren't sitting around discussing liberty
https://apnews.com/7ac228f3d1e3da5958bc7eae16c64647
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  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,138 Standard Supporter
    The Rona is all about an election. The virus is just the means of their hopeful end. Stalin would be proud!
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,944
    It's almost as if this is just a virus that's going to do what viruses do.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,376
    Australia has 838 cases and 12 deaths per million of population. This makes Daddy look good how exactly?
  • LoneStarDawgLoneStarDawg Member Posts: 13,302
    HHusky said:

    Australia has 838 cases and 12 deaths per million of population. This makes Daddy look good how exactly?

    Just wait 16 days or 16 months or whatever it takes for it to get grim
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited August 2020
    HHusky said:

    Australia has 838 cases and 12 deaths per million of population. This makes Daddy look good how exactly?

    They should crush their economy. If it saves one life. It’s science.

    I didn’t say anything about your daddy.
  • Postal91Postal91 Member Posts: 1,803

    HHusky said:

    Australia has 838 cases and 12 deaths per million of population. This makes Daddy look good how exactly?

    Just wait 16 days or 16 months or whatever it takes for it to get grim
    Is that when we can finally get The Vaccine™ by Xanadu 2.0 Lollita Express
  • HustlinOwlHustlinOwl Member Posts: 953

    Sensible mitigation - masks, distancing, washing hands, whatever
    Protect vulnerable populations
    Clear governmental communication - don't inject needless hysteria
    Avoid punitive measures - invites resistance & partisan energy
    Strengthen health care capacity
    Develop pharmacological prophylaxis - but don't rely
    Study history - Sadly, epidemics run a certain course that weº only have a certain degree of control over

    Or just let the media and local governments put everyone in hysterics, throw millions out of work, cause uncounted deaths from other causes, lie about stats in order to justify the actions taken, move the goal posts several times, give inconsistent messages, give up to the minute death counts, silence those with a different approach or thoughts. Toss in a race war and allow nightly riots because it's protected speech and saw things like racism is bigger public health threat than the virus. And cheer for more death and economic misery in order to move a political ideology.

    That's worked well.
    Top that off with a leader who is in way over his head and scared to take responsibility for anything that might damage his brand name.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,485 Standard Supporter

    Sensible mitigation - masks, distancing, washing hands, whatever
    Protect vulnerable populations
    Clear governmental communication - don't inject needless hysteria
    Avoid punitive measures - invites resistance & partisan energy
    Strengthen health care capacity
    Develop pharmacological prophylaxis - but don't rely
    Study history - Sadly, epidemics run a certain course that weº only have a certain degree of control over

    Or just let the media and local governments put everyone in hysterics, throw millions out of work, cause uncounted deaths from other causes, lie about stats in order to justify the actions taken, move the goal posts several times, give inconsistent messages, give up to the minute death counts, silence those with a different approach or thoughts. Toss in a race war and allow nightly riots because it's protected speech and saw things like racism is bigger public health threat than the virus. And cheer for more death and economic misery in order to move a political ideology.

    That's worked well.
    Top that off with a leader who is in way over his head and scared to take responsibility for anything that might damage his brand name.
    I honestly don't disagree.
  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,645 Founders Club

    Sensible mitigation - masks, distancing, washing hands, whatever
    Protect vulnerable populations
    Clear governmental communication - don't inject needless hysteria
    Avoid punitive measures - invites resistance & partisan energy
    Strengthen health care capacity
    Develop pharmacological prophylaxis - but don't rely
    Study history - Sadly, epidemics run a certain course that weº only have a certain degree of control over

    Or just let the media and local governments put everyone in hysterics, throw millions out of work, cause uncounted deaths from other causes, lie about stats in order to justify the actions taken, move the goal posts several times, give inconsistent messages, give up to the minute death counts, silence those with a different approach or thoughts. Toss in a race war and allow nightly riots because it's protected speech and saw things like racism is bigger public health threat than the virus. And cheer for more death and economic misery in order to move a political ideology.

    That's worked well.
    Top that off with a leader who is in way over his head and scared to take responsibility for anything that might damage his brand name.
    I honestly don't disagree.
    How is Trump in over his head? What does he need to take responsibility for that he's afraid will damage his brand name?
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,376

    Sensible mitigation - masks, distancing, washing hands, whatever
    Protect vulnerable populations
    Clear governmental communication - don't inject needless hysteria
    Avoid punitive measures - invites resistance & partisan energy
    Strengthen health care capacity
    Develop pharmacological prophylaxis - but don't rely
    Study history - Sadly, epidemics run a certain course that weº only have a certain degree of control over

    Or just let the media and local governments put everyone in hysterics, throw millions out of work, cause uncounted deaths from other causes, lie about stats in order to justify the actions taken, move the goal posts several times, give inconsistent messages, give up to the minute death counts, silence those with a different approach or thoughts. Toss in a race war and allow nightly riots because it's protected speech and saw things like racism is bigger public health threat than the virus. And cheer for more death and economic misery in order to move a political ideology.

    That's worked well.
    Top that off with a leader who is in way over his head and scared to take responsibility for anything that might damage his brand name.
    I honestly don't disagree.
    Daddy has failed every single Harry Truman moment he has had. He is the anti-Truman.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,485 Standard Supporter
    RoadTrip said:

    Sensible mitigation - masks, distancing, washing hands, whatever
    Protect vulnerable populations
    Clear governmental communication - don't inject needless hysteria
    Avoid punitive measures - invites resistance & partisan energy
    Strengthen health care capacity
    Develop pharmacological prophylaxis - but don't rely
    Study history - Sadly, epidemics run a certain course that weº only have a certain degree of control over

    Or just let the media and local governments put everyone in hysterics, throw millions out of work, cause uncounted deaths from other causes, lie about stats in order to justify the actions taken, move the goal posts several times, give inconsistent messages, give up to the minute death counts, silence those with a different approach or thoughts. Toss in a race war and allow nightly riots because it's protected speech and saw things like racism is bigger public health threat than the virus. And cheer for more death and economic misery in order to move a political ideology.

    That's worked well.
    Top that off with a leader who is in way over his head and scared to take responsibility for anything that might damage his brand name.
    I honestly don't disagree.
    How is Trump in over his head? What does he need to take responsibility for that he's afraid will damage his brand name?
    I've given my opinion on that many tims. Trump treated it as an electoral politics issue in March, thereby feeding the oppositional energy (which would have existed anyway to a degree) and taking attention anyway from nuts & bolts governance and response efforts.
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Responsible efforts?

    Please expand. What are the “responsible efforts” Trump failed to make?
  • NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    HHusky said:

    Sensible mitigation - masks, distancing, washing hands, whatever
    Protect vulnerable populations
    Clear governmental communication - don't inject needless hysteria
    Avoid punitive measures - invites resistance & partisan energy
    Strengthen health care capacity
    Develop pharmacological prophylaxis - but don't rely
    Study history - Sadly, epidemics run a certain course that weº only have a certain degree of control over

    Or just let the media and local governments put everyone in hysterics, throw millions out of work, cause uncounted deaths from other causes, lie about stats in order to justify the actions taken, move the goal posts several times, give inconsistent messages, give up to the minute death counts, silence those with a different approach or thoughts. Toss in a race war and allow nightly riots because it's protected speech and saw things like racism is bigger public health threat than the virus. And cheer for more death and economic misery in order to move a political ideology.

    That's worked well.
    Top that off with a leader who is in way over his head and scared to take responsibility for anything that might damage his brand name.
    I honestly don't disagree.
    Daddy has failed every single Harry Truman moment he has had. He is the anti-Truman.
    I learned he’s a xenophobe from Biden for shutting down flights from China.

    Now get out there and enjoy Chinese NY. Don’t be a xenophobe and don’t wear a mask.

    https://youtu.be/eFCzoXhNM6c
  • NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    RoadTrip said:

    Sensible mitigation - masks, distancing, washing hands, whatever
    Protect vulnerable populations
    Clear governmental communication - don't inject needless hysteria
    Avoid punitive measures - invites resistance & partisan energy
    Strengthen health care capacity
    Develop pharmacological prophylaxis - but don't rely
    Study history - Sadly, epidemics run a certain course that weº only have a certain degree of control over

    Or just let the media and local governments put everyone in hysterics, throw millions out of work, cause uncounted deaths from other causes, lie about stats in order to justify the actions taken, move the goal posts several times, give inconsistent messages, give up to the minute death counts, silence those with a different approach or thoughts. Toss in a race war and allow nightly riots because it's protected speech and saw things like racism is bigger public health threat than the virus. And cheer for more death and economic misery in order to move a political ideology.

    That's worked well.
    Top that off with a leader who is in way over his head and scared to take responsibility for anything that might damage his brand name.
    I honestly don't disagree.
    How is Trump in over his head? What does he need to take responsibility for that he's afraid will damage his brand name?
    I've given my opinion on that many tims. Trump treated it as an electoral politics issue in March, thereby feeding the oppositional energy (which would have existed anyway to a degree) and taking attention anyway from nuts & bolts governance and response efforts.
    Is this when the NYC Health Director and deBlasio were encouraging people to get out and about? Why yes, it was. Totally Trump’s fault!

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/01/new-york-mayor-bill-de-blasios-repeated-comments-downplaying-coronavirus/?outputType=amp

    New York Mayor Bill de Blasio’s repeated comments downplaying the coronavirus
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,485 Standard Supporter

    RoadTrip said:

    Sensible mitigation - masks, distancing, washing hands, whatever
    Protect vulnerable populations
    Clear governmental communication - don't inject needless hysteria
    Avoid punitive measures - invites resistance & partisan energy
    Strengthen health care capacity
    Develop pharmacological prophylaxis - but don't rely
    Study history - Sadly, epidemics run a certain course that weº only have a certain degree of control over

    Or just let the media and local governments put everyone in hysterics, throw millions out of work, cause uncounted deaths from other causes, lie about stats in order to justify the actions taken, move the goal posts several times, give inconsistent messages, give up to the minute death counts, silence those with a different approach or thoughts. Toss in a race war and allow nightly riots because it's protected speech and saw things like racism is bigger public health threat than the virus. And cheer for more death and economic misery in order to move a political ideology.

    That's worked well.
    Top that off with a leader who is in way over his head and scared to take responsibility for anything that might damage his brand name.
    I honestly don't disagree.
    How is Trump in over his head? What does he need to take responsibility for that he's afraid will damage his brand name?
    I've given my opinion on that many tims. Trump treated it as an electoral politics issue in March, thereby feeding the oppositional energy (which would have existed anyway to a degree) and taking attention anyway from nuts & bolts governance and response efforts.
    Is this when the NYC Health Director and deBlasio were encouraging people to get out and about? Why yes, it was. Totally Trump’s fault!

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/01/new-york-mayor-bill-de-blasios-repeated-comments-downplaying-coronavirus/?outputType=amp

    New York Mayor Bill de Blasio’s repeated comments downplaying the coronavirus
    In my view, it was a failure of leadership at all level. Trump on down.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,138 Standard Supporter
    The media tells them everything is Trumps fault. It must be so!
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