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Remember when Australia was praised as the model for stopping the Rona?

MikeDamone
MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
edited August 2020 in Tug Tavern
And the CoronaBros said Trump fucked it up and the USA citizens are dumbshits?

Are it turns, it's all bullshit and we never should have locked down. Sweden did it right.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN255034

Looks like they aren't sitting around discussing liberty
https://apnews.com/7ac228f3d1e3da5958bc7eae16c64647
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,748 Standard Supporter
    The Rona is all about an election. The virus is just the means of their hopeful end. Stalin would be proud!
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    It's almost as if this is just a virus that's going to do what viruses do.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    Australia has 838 cases and 12 deaths per million of population. This makes Daddy look good how exactly?
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,681 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    Australia has 838 cases and 12 deaths per million of population. This makes Daddy look good how exactly?

    Just wait 16 days or 16 months or whatever it takes for it to get grim
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited August 2020
    HHusky said:

    Australia has 838 cases and 12 deaths per million of population. This makes Daddy look good how exactly?

    They should crush their economy. If it saves one life. It’s science.

    I didn’t say anything about your daddy.
  • Postal91
    Postal91 Member Posts: 1,895

    HHusky said:

    Australia has 838 cases and 12 deaths per million of population. This makes Daddy look good how exactly?

    Just wait 16 days or 16 months or whatever it takes for it to get grim
    Is that when we can finally get The Vaccine™ by Xanadu 2.0 Lollita Express
  • HustlinOwl
    HustlinOwl Member Posts: 953

    Sensible mitigation - masks, distancing, washing hands, whatever
    Protect vulnerable populations
    Clear governmental communication - don't inject needless hysteria
    Avoid punitive measures - invites resistance & partisan energy
    Strengthen health care capacity
    Develop pharmacological prophylaxis - but don't rely
    Study history - Sadly, epidemics run a certain course that weº only have a certain degree of control over

    Or just let the media and local governments put everyone in hysterics, throw millions out of work, cause uncounted deaths from other causes, lie about stats in order to justify the actions taken, move the goal posts several times, give inconsistent messages, give up to the minute death counts, silence those with a different approach or thoughts. Toss in a race war and allow nightly riots because it's protected speech and saw things like racism is bigger public health threat than the virus. And cheer for more death and economic misery in order to move a political ideology.

    That's worked well.
    Top that off with a leader who is in way over his head and scared to take responsibility for anything that might damage his brand name.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    Sensible mitigation - masks, distancing, washing hands, whatever
    Protect vulnerable populations
    Clear governmental communication - don't inject needless hysteria
    Avoid punitive measures - invites resistance & partisan energy
    Strengthen health care capacity
    Develop pharmacological prophylaxis - but don't rely
    Study history - Sadly, epidemics run a certain course that weº only have a certain degree of control over

    Or just let the media and local governments put everyone in hysterics, throw millions out of work, cause uncounted deaths from other causes, lie about stats in order to justify the actions taken, move the goal posts several times, give inconsistent messages, give up to the minute death counts, silence those with a different approach or thoughts. Toss in a race war and allow nightly riots because it's protected speech and saw things like racism is bigger public health threat than the virus. And cheer for more death and economic misery in order to move a political ideology.

    That's worked well.
    Top that off with a leader who is in way over his head and scared to take responsibility for anything that might damage his brand name.
    I honestly don't disagree.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,147 Founders Club

    Sensible mitigation - masks, distancing, washing hands, whatever
    Protect vulnerable populations
    Clear governmental communication - don't inject needless hysteria
    Avoid punitive measures - invites resistance & partisan energy
    Strengthen health care capacity
    Develop pharmacological prophylaxis - but don't rely
    Study history - Sadly, epidemics run a certain course that weº only have a certain degree of control over

    Or just let the media and local governments put everyone in hysterics, throw millions out of work, cause uncounted deaths from other causes, lie about stats in order to justify the actions taken, move the goal posts several times, give inconsistent messages, give up to the minute death counts, silence those with a different approach or thoughts. Toss in a race war and allow nightly riots because it's protected speech and saw things like racism is bigger public health threat than the virus. And cheer for more death and economic misery in order to move a political ideology.

    That's worked well.
    Top that off with a leader who is in way over his head and scared to take responsibility for anything that might damage his brand name.
    I honestly don't disagree.
    How is Trump in over his head? What does he need to take responsibility for that he's afraid will damage his brand name?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898

    Sensible mitigation - masks, distancing, washing hands, whatever
    Protect vulnerable populations
    Clear governmental communication - don't inject needless hysteria
    Avoid punitive measures - invites resistance & partisan energy
    Strengthen health care capacity
    Develop pharmacological prophylaxis - but don't rely
    Study history - Sadly, epidemics run a certain course that weº only have a certain degree of control over

    Or just let the media and local governments put everyone in hysterics, throw millions out of work, cause uncounted deaths from other causes, lie about stats in order to justify the actions taken, move the goal posts several times, give inconsistent messages, give up to the minute death counts, silence those with a different approach or thoughts. Toss in a race war and allow nightly riots because it's protected speech and saw things like racism is bigger public health threat than the virus. And cheer for more death and economic misery in order to move a political ideology.

    That's worked well.
    Top that off with a leader who is in way over his head and scared to take responsibility for anything that might damage his brand name.
    I honestly don't disagree.
    Daddy has failed every single Harry Truman moment he has had. He is the anti-Truman.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    RoadTrip said:

    Sensible mitigation - masks, distancing, washing hands, whatever
    Protect vulnerable populations
    Clear governmental communication - don't inject needless hysteria
    Avoid punitive measures - invites resistance & partisan energy
    Strengthen health care capacity
    Develop pharmacological prophylaxis - but don't rely
    Study history - Sadly, epidemics run a certain course that weº only have a certain degree of control over

    Or just let the media and local governments put everyone in hysterics, throw millions out of work, cause uncounted deaths from other causes, lie about stats in order to justify the actions taken, move the goal posts several times, give inconsistent messages, give up to the minute death counts, silence those with a different approach or thoughts. Toss in a race war and allow nightly riots because it's protected speech and saw things like racism is bigger public health threat than the virus. And cheer for more death and economic misery in order to move a political ideology.

    That's worked well.
    Top that off with a leader who is in way over his head and scared to take responsibility for anything that might damage his brand name.
    I honestly don't disagree.
    How is Trump in over his head? What does he need to take responsibility for that he's afraid will damage his brand name?
    I've given my opinion on that many tims. Trump treated it as an electoral politics issue in March, thereby feeding the oppositional energy (which would have existed anyway to a degree) and taking attention anyway from nuts & bolts governance and response efforts.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Responsible efforts?

    Please expand. What are the “responsible efforts” Trump failed to make?
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    HHusky said:

    Sensible mitigation - masks, distancing, washing hands, whatever
    Protect vulnerable populations
    Clear governmental communication - don't inject needless hysteria
    Avoid punitive measures - invites resistance & partisan energy
    Strengthen health care capacity
    Develop pharmacological prophylaxis - but don't rely
    Study history - Sadly, epidemics run a certain course that weº only have a certain degree of control over

    Or just let the media and local governments put everyone in hysterics, throw millions out of work, cause uncounted deaths from other causes, lie about stats in order to justify the actions taken, move the goal posts several times, give inconsistent messages, give up to the minute death counts, silence those with a different approach or thoughts. Toss in a race war and allow nightly riots because it's protected speech and saw things like racism is bigger public health threat than the virus. And cheer for more death and economic misery in order to move a political ideology.

    That's worked well.
    Top that off with a leader who is in way over his head and scared to take responsibility for anything that might damage his brand name.
    I honestly don't disagree.
    Daddy has failed every single Harry Truman moment he has had. He is the anti-Truman.
    I learned he’s a xenophobe from Biden for shutting down flights from China.

    Now get out there and enjoy Chinese NY. Don’t be a xenophobe and don’t wear a mask.

    https://youtu.be/eFCzoXhNM6c
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    RoadTrip said:

    Sensible mitigation - masks, distancing, washing hands, whatever
    Protect vulnerable populations
    Clear governmental communication - don't inject needless hysteria
    Avoid punitive measures - invites resistance & partisan energy
    Strengthen health care capacity
    Develop pharmacological prophylaxis - but don't rely
    Study history - Sadly, epidemics run a certain course that weº only have a certain degree of control over

    Or just let the media and local governments put everyone in hysterics, throw millions out of work, cause uncounted deaths from other causes, lie about stats in order to justify the actions taken, move the goal posts several times, give inconsistent messages, give up to the minute death counts, silence those with a different approach or thoughts. Toss in a race war and allow nightly riots because it's protected speech and saw things like racism is bigger public health threat than the virus. And cheer for more death and economic misery in order to move a political ideology.

    That's worked well.
    Top that off with a leader who is in way over his head and scared to take responsibility for anything that might damage his brand name.
    I honestly don't disagree.
    How is Trump in over his head? What does he need to take responsibility for that he's afraid will damage his brand name?
    I've given my opinion on that many tims. Trump treated it as an electoral politics issue in March, thereby feeding the oppositional energy (which would have existed anyway to a degree) and taking attention anyway from nuts & bolts governance and response efforts.
    Is this when the NYC Health Director and deBlasio were encouraging people to get out and about? Why yes, it was. Totally Trump’s fault!

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/01/new-york-mayor-bill-de-blasios-repeated-comments-downplaying-coronavirus/?outputType=amp

    New York Mayor Bill de Blasio’s repeated comments downplaying the coronavirus
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    RoadTrip said:

    Sensible mitigation - masks, distancing, washing hands, whatever
    Protect vulnerable populations
    Clear governmental communication - don't inject needless hysteria
    Avoid punitive measures - invites resistance & partisan energy
    Strengthen health care capacity
    Develop pharmacological prophylaxis - but don't rely
    Study history - Sadly, epidemics run a certain course that weº only have a certain degree of control over

    Or just let the media and local governments put everyone in hysterics, throw millions out of work, cause uncounted deaths from other causes, lie about stats in order to justify the actions taken, move the goal posts several times, give inconsistent messages, give up to the minute death counts, silence those with a different approach or thoughts. Toss in a race war and allow nightly riots because it's protected speech and saw things like racism is bigger public health threat than the virus. And cheer for more death and economic misery in order to move a political ideology.

    That's worked well.
    Top that off with a leader who is in way over his head and scared to take responsibility for anything that might damage his brand name.
    I honestly don't disagree.
    How is Trump in over his head? What does he need to take responsibility for that he's afraid will damage his brand name?
    I've given my opinion on that many tims. Trump treated it as an electoral politics issue in March, thereby feeding the oppositional energy (which would have existed anyway to a degree) and taking attention anyway from nuts & bolts governance and response efforts.
    Is this when the NYC Health Director and deBlasio were encouraging people to get out and about? Why yes, it was. Totally Trump’s fault!

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/01/new-york-mayor-bill-de-blasios-repeated-comments-downplaying-coronavirus/?outputType=amp

    New York Mayor Bill de Blasio’s repeated comments downplaying the coronavirus
    In my view, it was a failure of leadership at all level. Trump on down.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,748 Standard Supporter
    The media tells them everything is Trumps fault. It must be so!
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    LOL at Trump treating it as an “electoral issue” as the Democrats were mocking him for being racist and defying federal guidelines solely to shtick it to Trump. deBlasio and Cuomo needlessly killed thousands and infected many more solely because Trump was being a meanie racist and calling it the “China Flu.” Get the fuck outta here with that weakass 20/20 hindsight. Trump hasn’t been perfect but he sure as hell isn’t the main person to blame for New York and San Francisco.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    LOL at Trump treating it as an “electoral issue” as the Democrats were mocking him for being racist and defying federal guidelines solely to shtick it to Trump. deBlasio and Cuomo needlessly killed thousands and infected many more solely because Trump was being a meanie racist and calling it the “China Flu.” Get the fuck outta here with that weakass 20/20 hindsight. Trump hasn’t been perfect but he sure as hell isn’t the main person to blame for New York and San Francisco.

    Look at it however you like, but it's not hindsight on my part. I was saying that a month before you signed up here.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072

    RoadTrip said:

    Sensible mitigation - masks, distancing, washing hands, whatever
    Protect vulnerable populations
    Clear governmental communication - don't inject needless hysteria
    Avoid punitive measures - invites resistance & partisan energy
    Strengthen health care capacity
    Develop pharmacological prophylaxis - but don't rely
    Study history - Sadly, epidemics run a certain course that weº only have a certain degree of control over

    Or just let the media and local governments put everyone in hysterics, throw millions out of work, cause uncounted deaths from other causes, lie about stats in order to justify the actions taken, move the goal posts several times, give inconsistent messages, give up to the minute death counts, silence those with a different approach or thoughts. Toss in a race war and allow nightly riots because it's protected speech and saw things like racism is bigger public health threat than the virus. And cheer for more death and economic misery in order to move a political ideology.

    That's worked well.
    Top that off with a leader who is in way over his head and scared to take responsibility for anything that might damage his brand name.
    I honestly don't disagree.
    How is Trump in over his head? What does he need to take responsibility for that he's afraid will damage his brand name?
    I've given my opinion on that many tims. Trump treated it as an electoral politics issue in March, thereby feeding the oppositional energy (which would have existed anyway to a degree) and taking attention anyway from nuts & bolts governance and response efforts.
    Is this when the NYC Health Director and deBlasio were encouraging people to get out and about? Why yes, it was. Totally Trump’s fault!

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/01/new-york-mayor-bill-de-blasios-repeated-comments-downplaying-coronavirus/?outputType=amp

    New York Mayor Bill de Blasio’s repeated comments downplaying the coronavirus
    In my view, it was a failure of leadership at all level. Trump on down.
    But you can’t cite any specifics.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    doogie said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Sensible mitigation - masks, distancing, washing hands, whatever
    Protect vulnerable populations
    Clear governmental communication - don't inject needless hysteria
    Avoid punitive measures - invites resistance & partisan energy
    Strengthen health care capacity
    Develop pharmacological prophylaxis - but don't rely
    Study history - Sadly, epidemics run a certain course that weº only have a certain degree of control over

    Or just let the media and local governments put everyone in hysterics, throw millions out of work, cause uncounted deaths from other causes, lie about stats in order to justify the actions taken, move the goal posts several times, give inconsistent messages, give up to the minute death counts, silence those with a different approach or thoughts. Toss in a race war and allow nightly riots because it's protected speech and saw things like racism is bigger public health threat than the virus. And cheer for more death and economic misery in order to move a political ideology.

    That's worked well.
    Top that off with a leader who is in way over his head and scared to take responsibility for anything that might damage his brand name.
    I honestly don't disagree.
    How is Trump in over his head? What does he need to take responsibility for that he's afraid will damage his brand name?
    I've given my opinion on that many tims. Trump treated it as an electoral politics issue in March, thereby feeding the oppositional energy (which would have existed anyway to a degree) and taking attention anyway from nuts & bolts governance and response efforts.
    Is this when the NYC Health Director and deBlasio were encouraging people to get out and about? Why yes, it was. Totally Trump’s fault!

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/01/new-york-mayor-bill-de-blasios-repeated-comments-downplaying-coronavirus/?outputType=amp

    New York Mayor Bill de Blasio’s repeated comments downplaying the coronavirus
    In my view, it was a failure of leadership at all level. Trump on down.
    But you can’t cite any specifics.
    Don't feel like rehashing again, here's one of the original threads
    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/69805/wsj-agrees-with-me/p1
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,147 Founders Club

    RoadTrip said:

    Sensible mitigation - masks, distancing, washing hands, whatever
    Protect vulnerable populations
    Clear governmental communication - don't inject needless hysteria
    Avoid punitive measures - invites resistance & partisan energy
    Strengthen health care capacity
    Develop pharmacological prophylaxis - but don't rely
    Study history - Sadly, epidemics run a certain course that weº only have a certain degree of control over

    Or just let the media and local governments put everyone in hysterics, throw millions out of work, cause uncounted deaths from other causes, lie about stats in order to justify the actions taken, move the goal posts several times, give inconsistent messages, give up to the minute death counts, silence those with a different approach or thoughts. Toss in a race war and allow nightly riots because it's protected speech and saw things like racism is bigger public health threat than the virus. And cheer for more death and economic misery in order to move a political ideology.

    That's worked well.
    Top that off with a leader who is in way over his head and scared to take responsibility for anything that might damage his brand name.
    I honestly don't disagree.
    How is Trump in over his head? What does he need to take responsibility for that he's afraid will damage his brand name?
    I've given my opinion on that many tims. Trump treated it as an electoral politics issue in March, thereby feeding the oppositional energy (which would have existed anyway to a degree) and taking attention anyway from nuts & bolts governance and response efforts.
    Fair enough but this whole COVID-19 issue is bullshit and is 100% political. Trump is up against the entire world and IMO he's allowed to play the game like every other politician. Why are Democrats and Rhinos always given a pass? We both know the answer to that question and until both sides are allowed to play by the same rules, there's going to be civil unrest in this country and it's going to get worse if that's possible.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,147 Founders Club

    RoadTrip said:

    Sensible mitigation - masks, distancing, washing hands, whatever
    Protect vulnerable populations
    Clear governmental communication - don't inject needless hysteria
    Avoid punitive measures - invites resistance & partisan energy
    Strengthen health care capacity
    Develop pharmacological prophylaxis - but don't rely
    Study history - Sadly, epidemics run a certain course that weº only have a certain degree of control over

    Or just let the media and local governments put everyone in hysterics, throw millions out of work, cause uncounted deaths from other causes, lie about stats in order to justify the actions taken, move the goal posts several times, give inconsistent messages, give up to the minute death counts, silence those with a different approach or thoughts. Toss in a race war and allow nightly riots because it's protected speech and saw things like racism is bigger public health threat than the virus. And cheer for more death and economic misery in order to move a political ideology.

    That's worked well.
    Top that off with a leader who is in way over his head and scared to take responsibility for anything that might damage his brand name.
    I honestly don't disagree.
    How is Trump in over his head? What does he need to take responsibility for that he's afraid will damage his brand name?
    I've given my opinion on that many tims. Trump treated it as an electoral politics issue in March, thereby feeding the oppositional energy (which would have existed anyway to a degree) and taking attention anyway from nuts & bolts governance and response efforts.
    Is this when the NYC Health Director and deBlasio were encouraging people to get out and about? Why yes, it was. Totally Trump’s fault!

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/01/new-york-mayor-bill-de-blasios-repeated-comments-downplaying-coronavirus/?outputType=amp

    New York Mayor Bill de Blasio’s repeated comments downplaying the coronavirus
    In my view, it was a failure of leadership at all level. Trump on down.
    So Trump is responsible for not doing what countless administrations failed to do before him while 100% of his time was consumed fighting off treasonous accusations of being in bed with the Russians to steal an election? If he failed at all, it was in trusting anyone who had ever worked 1 day in the government to guide him.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072

    doogie said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Sensible mitigation - masks, distancing, washing hands, whatever
    Protect vulnerable populations
    Clear governmental communication - don't inject needless hysteria
    Avoid punitive measures - invites resistance & partisan energy
    Strengthen health care capacity
    Develop pharmacological prophylaxis - but don't rely
    Study history - Sadly, epidemics run a certain course that weº only have a certain degree of control over

    Or just let the media and local governments put everyone in hysterics, throw millions out of work, cause uncounted deaths from other causes, lie about stats in order to justify the actions taken, move the goal posts several times, give inconsistent messages, give up to the minute death counts, silence those with a different approach or thoughts. Toss in a race war and allow nightly riots because it's protected speech and saw things like racism is bigger public health threat than the virus. And cheer for more death and economic misery in order to move a political ideology.

    That's worked well.
    Top that off with a leader who is in way over his head and scared to take responsibility for anything that might damage his brand name.
    I honestly don't disagree.
    How is Trump in over his head? What does he need to take responsibility for that he's afraid will damage his brand name?
    I've given my opinion on that many tims. Trump treated it as an electoral politics issue in March, thereby feeding the oppositional energy (which would have existed anyway to a degree) and taking attention anyway from nuts & bolts governance and response efforts.
    Is this when the NYC Health Director and deBlasio were encouraging people to get out and about? Why yes, it was. Totally Trump’s fault!

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/01/new-york-mayor-bill-de-blasios-repeated-comments-downplaying-coronavirus/?outputType=amp

    New York Mayor Bill de Blasio’s repeated comments downplaying the coronavirus
    In my view, it was a failure of leadership at all level. Trump on down.
    But you can’t cite any specifics.
    Don't feel like rehashing again, here's one of the original threads
    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/69805/wsj-agrees-with-me/p1
    I don’t blame you. You’ve been proven wrong
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    2.3-3.5 Million, mostly children and young healthy people DEAD in 30-60 days.


    now we talkin Cases. And white upper-middle class terrorists chanting Black Lives, in Gucci stores stealing free shit, Matter!

    No, sorry, you simply are wrong
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    doogie said:

    2.3-3.5 Million, mostly children and young healthy people DEAD in 30-60 days.


    now we talkin Cases. And white upper-middle class terrorists chanting Black Lives, in Gucci stores stealing free shit, Matter!

    No, sorry, you simply are wrong

    Did you believe that?