Looks like California is closing

Fire_Marshall_Bill

Tequilla said:

HHusky said:

MelloDawg said:

I imagine Inslee will eventually do the same.

Probably. Trends are moving the wrong way.

Are they?

I get that cases are increasing but so has testing. By default, more testing was always going to lead to more cases ... including asymptomatic cases that we were never picking up initially.

The key stats to me have always been death, hospital capacity, and ICUs available for the most sick.

I'm fully resigned to the fact that life isn't going to be normal until at some point next year after there's a solid vaccine option available. I know that the balance of life is going to be at home, being very careful at who you associate with, maintaining distance as much as possible, and enjoying golf while I can.

But I'm not going to say that I'm super worried about 20 year olds in general getting the virus ... they will be fine.

The spike in cases is almost assuredly coming in part due to the protesting in June and the spread tied into it. It never made sense to me how we have been so diligent about maintaining space, sports shut down, etc. etc. but when it came to massive people gatherings for protest and related activities that was all ok. I'm not saying that protests and the right to assemble, freedom of speech, etc. isn't important so don't twist. I'm not saying that I'm not recognizing instances of police abuse and social justice so don't twist. But the uptick in at least some level makes a ton of sense given the events.

I'm hearing the trans parade and BLM riots were good. Protests in Lansing Michigan were baaaad 🐑

There were 3 rednecks with Confederate flags so everyone is therefore a nazi. Guilt by association.

GrundleStiltzkin

GrundleStiltzkin said:

MelloDawg said:

Tequilla said:

HHusky said:

MelloDawg said:

I imagine Inslee will eventually do the same.

Probably. Trends are moving the wrong way.

Are they?

I get that cases are increasing but so has testing. By default, more testing was always going to lead to more cases ... including asymptomatic cases that we were never picking up initially.

The key stats to me have always been death, hospital capacity, and ICUs available for the most sick.

I'm fully resigned to the fact that life isn't going to be normal until at some point next year after there's a solid vaccine option available. I know that the balance of life is going to be at home, being very careful at who you associate with, maintaining distance as much as possible, and enjoying golf while I can.

But I'm not going to say that I'm super worried about 20 year olds in general getting the virus ... they will be fine.

The spike in cases is almost assuredly coming in part due to the protesting in June and the spread tied into it. It never made sense to me how we have been so diligent about maintaining space, sports shut down, etc. etc. but when it came to massive people gatherings for protest and related activities that was all ok. I'm not saying that protests and the right to assemble, freedom of speech, etc. isn't important so don't twist. I'm not saying that I'm not recognizing instances of police abuse and social justice so don't twist. But the uptick in at least some level makes a ton of sense given the events.

I could have missed it, but I'm not sure anyone said that the protests were conducive to the containment of COVID and, if you asked public health "experts," 100% of them would say it was a dumbfuck idea if you're trying to prevent spread. As such, they'd probably agree with you that the uptick is because of those protests. The people that protested thought that social justice and racial equality demonstrations superseded the chance they could get COVID, just like the kids who went to go party for spring break and Memorial Day thought the same. Neither was correct.

I'd agree your metrics are probably the real way we should be looking at this, but they'll make the argument that more cases leads to more hospitalization leads to full ICU beds leads to deaths.

Pissed all over again. Thanks, dick

haie

So we were wrong about literally everything when it came to covid and how to handle it.

Oh well. They were small businesses whose owners were never voting for us? anyways.

UW_Doog_Bot

haie said:

So we were wrong about literally everything when it came to covid and how to handle it.

Oh well. They were small businesses whose owners were never voting for us? anyways.

They weren't wrong. Everything worked out exactly how they wanted.