Looks like California is closing

HHusky

a bunch of things that never reopened according to our resident Californians.

MelloDawg

I imagine Inslee will eventually do the same.

HHusky

MelloDawg said:

I imagine Inslee will eventually do the same.

Probably. Trends are moving the wrong way.

Tequilla

HHusky said:

MelloDawg said:

I imagine Inslee will eventually do the same.

Probably. Trends are moving the wrong way.

Are they?

I get that cases are increasing but so has testing. By default, more testing was always going to lead to more cases ... including asymptomatic cases that we were never picking up initially.

The key stats to me have always been death, hospital capacity, and ICUs available for the most sick.

I'm fully resigned to the fact that life isn't going to be normal until at some point next year after there's a solid vaccine option available. I know that the balance of life is going to be at home, being very careful at who you associate with, maintaining distance as much as possible, and enjoying golf while I can.

But I'm not going to say that I'm super worried about 20 year olds in general getting the virus ... they will be fine.

The spike in cases is almost assuredly coming in part due to the protesting in June and the spread tied into it. It never made sense to me how we have been so diligent about maintaining space, sports shut down, etc. etc. but when it came to massive people gatherings for protest and related activities that was all ok. I'm not saying that protests and the right to assemble, freedom of speech, etc. isn't important so don't twist. I'm not saying that I'm not recognizing instances of police abuse and social justice so don't twist. But the uptick in at least some level makes a ton of sense given the events.

greenblood

Great...so a lot of these Californian morons will be coming up north, ruining it for everybody. I'm still pissed our? governors don't just shutdown their borders. It's quite simple: stop any vehicle with an out of state license plate. If they can't prove they are essential, slap them with a $2,500 fine. If people arrive out of state through air, then force them into two weeks quarantine, just like Hawaii is doing. I for one think this is way overblown, but if shutting down the borders keeps the states open for the most part, I'm all for it. Nobody really wants Californians anyway.

MelloDawg

Tequilla said:

HHusky said:

MelloDawg said:

I imagine Inslee will eventually do the same.

Probably. Trends are moving the wrong way.

Are they?

I get that cases are increasing but so has testing. By default, more testing was always going to lead to more cases ... including asymptomatic cases that we were never picking up initially.

The key stats to me have always been death, hospital capacity, and ICUs available for the most sick.

I'm fully resigned to the fact that life isn't going to be normal until at some point next year after there's a solid vaccine option available. I know that the balance of life is going to be at home, being very careful at who you associate with, maintaining distance as much as possible, and enjoying golf while I can.

But I'm not going to say that I'm super worried about 20 year olds in general getting the virus ... they will be fine.

The spike in cases is almost assuredly coming in part due to the protesting in June and the spread tied into it. It never made sense to me how we have been so diligent about maintaining space, sports shut down, etc. etc. but when it came to massive people gatherings for protest and related activities that was all ok. I'm not saying that protests and the right to assemble, freedom of speech, etc. isn't important so don't twist. I'm not saying that I'm not recognizing instances of police abuse and social justice so don't twist. But the uptick in at least some level makes a ton of sense given the events.

I could have missed it, but I'm not sure anyone said that the protests were conducive to the containment of COVID and, if you asked public health "experts," 100% of them would say it was a dumbfuck idea if you're trying to prevent spread. As such, they'd probably agree with you that the uptick is because of those protests. The people that protested thought that social justice and racial equality demonstrations superseded the chance they could get COVID, just like the kids who went to go party for spring break and Memorial Day thought the same. Neither was correct.

I'd agree your metrics are probably the real way we should be looking at this, but they'll make the argument that more cases leads to more hospitalization leads to full ICU beds leads to deaths.

LebamDawg

Boy I wish we had something to protest about so we could put the Vid on the back burner.

RaceBannon

Imagine taking Newsom seriously

Bob_C

MelloDawg said:

Tequilla said:

HHusky said:

MelloDawg said:

I imagine Inslee will eventually do the same.

Probably. Trends are moving the wrong way.

Are they?

I get that cases are increasing but so has testing. By default, more testing was always going to lead to more cases ... including asymptomatic cases that we were never picking up initially.

The key stats to me have always been death, hospital capacity, and ICUs available for the most sick.

I'm fully resigned to the fact that life isn't going to be normal until at some point next year after there's a solid vaccine option available. I know that the balance of life is going to be at home, being very careful at who you associate with, maintaining distance as much as possible, and enjoying golf while I can.

But I'm not going to say that I'm super worried about 20 year olds in general getting the virus ... they will be fine.

The spike in cases is almost assuredly coming in part due to the protesting in June and the spread tied into it. It never made sense to me how we have been so diligent about maintaining space, sports shut down, etc. etc. but when it came to massive people gatherings for protest and related activities that was all ok. I'm not saying that protests and the right to assemble, freedom of speech, etc. isn't important so don't twist. I'm not saying that I'm not recognizing instances of police abuse and social justice so don't twist. But the uptick in at least some level makes a ton of sense given the events.

I could have missed it, but I'm not sure anyone said that the protests were conducive to the containment of COVID and, if you asked public health "experts," 100% of them would say it was a dumbfuck idea if you're trying to prevent spread. As such, they'd probably agree with you that the uptick is because of those protests. The people that protested thought that social justice and racial equality demonstrations superseded the chance they could get COVID, just like the kids who went to go party for spring break and Memorial Day thought the same. Neither was correct.

I'd agree your metrics are probably the real way we should be looking at this, but they'll make the argument that more cases leads to more hospitalization leads to full ICU beds leads to deaths.

People were pretty nuanced with the language around the protests. To your point, no one said it was conducive to the containment, but they all said the inverse in that it wasn’t going to spread it, or said it was more important to protest than to limit spread. Mental health was given a seat at the table for protesting. The reports that the protests didn’t spread the virus were written in advance of the results, we knew it was going to be that way. Then the results came in and the right was blamed for them.

Still no touching flagsticks or rakes in the bunkers though, so we’re safe there.

PostGameOrangeSlices

If it saves one fucking life...

MelloDawg

Bob_C said:

MelloDawg said:

Tequilla said:

HHusky said:

MelloDawg said:

I imagine Inslee will eventually do the same.

Probably. Trends are moving the wrong way.

Are they?

I get that cases are increasing but so has testing. By default, more testing was always going to lead to more cases ... including asymptomatic cases that we were never picking up initially.

The key stats to me have always been death, hospital capacity, and ICUs available for the most sick.

I'm fully resigned to the fact that life isn't going to be normal until at some point next year after there's a solid vaccine option available. I know that the balance of life is going to be at home, being very careful at who you associate with, maintaining distance as much as possible, and enjoying golf while I can.

But I'm not going to say that I'm super worried about 20 year olds in general getting the virus ... they will be fine.

The spike in cases is almost assuredly coming in part due to the protesting in June and the spread tied into it. It never made sense to me how we have been so diligent about maintaining space, sports shut down, etc. etc. but when it came to massive people gatherings for protest and related activities that was all ok. I'm not saying that protests and the right to assemble, freedom of speech, etc. isn't important so don't twist. I'm not saying that I'm not recognizing instances of police abuse and social justice so don't twist. But the uptick in at least some level makes a ton of sense given the events.

I could have missed it, but I'm not sure anyone said that the protests were conducive to the containment of COVID and, if you asked public health "experts," 100% of them would say it was a dumbfuck idea if you're trying to prevent spread. As such, they'd probably agree with you that the uptick is because of those protests. The people that protested thought that social justice and racial equality demonstrations superseded the chance they could get COVID, just like the kids who went to go party for spring break and Memorial Day thought the same. Neither was correct.

I'd agree your metrics are probably the real way we should be looking at this, but they'll make the argument that more cases leads to more hospitalization leads to full ICU beds leads to deaths.

People were pretty nuanced with the language around the protests. To your point, no one said it was conducive to the containment, but they all said the inverse in that it wasn’t going to spread it, or said it was more important to protest than to limit spread. Mental health was given a seat at the table for protesting. The reports that the protests didn’t spread the virus were written in advance of the results, we knew it was going to be that way. Then the results came in and the right was blamed for them.

Still no touching flagsticks or rakes in the bunkers though, so we’re safe there.

Yes, it seemed in conflict with various guidance from the CDC that large groups were ill-advised. How many people actually believed that the protests weren't going to be bad for COVID spread though? I think anyone with half a brain on either side realized how absurd that sounded. They just thought it was more important to protest.

Baseman

greenblood said:

Great...so a lot of these Californian morons will be coming up north, ruining it for everybody. I'm still pissed our? governors don't just shutdown their borders. It's quite simple: stop any vehicle with an out of state license plate. If they can't prove they are essential, slap them with a $2,500 fine. If people arrive out of state through air, then force them into two weeks quarantine, just like Hawaii is doing. I for one think this is way overblown, but if shutting down the borders keeps the states open for the most part, I'm all for it. Nobody really wants Californians anyway.

Hearing there's no sales tax in Oregon and their gas station attendants even pump the gas for you!

HHusky

Baseman said:

greenblood said:

Great...so a lot of these Californian morons will be coming up north, ruining it for everybody. I'm still pissed our? governors don't just shutdown their borders. It's quite simple: stop any vehicle with an out of state license plate. If they can't prove they are essential, slap them with a $2,500 fine. If people arrive out of state through air, then force them into two weeks quarantine, just like Hawaii is doing. I for one think this is way overblown, but if shutting down the borders keeps the states open for the most part, I'm all for it. Nobody really wants Californians anyway.

Hearing there's no sales tax in Oregon and their gas station attendants even pump the gas for you!

If it saves even one driver from immolation . . .

YouKnowIt

Bob_C said:

Still no touching flagsticks or rakes in the bunkers though, so we’re safe there.

it's not like you actually raked the bunker correctly anyways...

HHusky

Tequilla said:

HHusky said:

MelloDawg said:

I imagine Inslee will eventually do the same.

Probably. Trends are moving the wrong way.

Are they?

I get that cases are increasing but so has testing. By default, more testing was always going to lead to more cases ... including asymptomatic cases that we were never picking up initially.

The key stats to me have always been death, hospital capacity, and ICUs available for the most sick.

I'm fully resigned to the fact that life isn't going to be normal until at some point next year after there's a solid vaccine option available. I know that the balance of life is going to be at home, being very careful at who you associate with, maintaining distance as much as possible, and enjoying golf while I can.

But I'm not going to say that I'm super worried about 20 year olds in general getting the virus ... they will be fine.

The spike in cases is almost assuredly coming in part due to the protesting in June and the spread tied into it. It never made sense to me how we have been so diligent about maintaining space, sports shut down, etc. etc. but when it came to massive people gatherings for protest and related activities that was all ok. I'm not saying that protests and the right to assemble, freedom of speech, etc. isn't important so don't twist. I'm not saying that I'm not recognizing instances of police abuse and social justice so don't twist. But the uptick in at least some level makes a ton of sense given the events.

The rate of positive tests is too high here and most places.

RaceBannon

HHusky said:

Tequilla said:

HHusky said:

MelloDawg said:

I imagine Inslee will eventually do the same.

Probably. Trends are moving the wrong way.

Are they?

I get that cases are increasing but so has testing. By default, more testing was always going to lead to more cases ... including asymptomatic cases that we were never picking up initially.

The key stats to me have always been death, hospital capacity, and ICUs available for the most sick.

I'm fully resigned to the fact that life isn't going to be normal until at some point next year after there's a solid vaccine option available. I know that the balance of life is going to be at home, being very careful at who you associate with, maintaining distance as much as possible, and enjoying golf while I can.

But I'm not going to say that I'm super worried about 20 year olds in general getting the virus ... they will be fine.

The spike in cases is almost assuredly coming in part due to the protesting in June and the spread tied into it. It never made sense to me how we have been so diligent about maintaining space, sports shut down, etc. etc. but when it came to massive people gatherings for protest and related activities that was all ok. I'm not saying that protests and the right to assemble, freedom of speech, etc. isn't important so don't twist. I'm not saying that I'm not recognizing instances of police abuse and social justice so don't twist. But the uptick in at least some level makes a ton of sense given the events.

The rate of positive tests is too high here and most places.

How so?

If it doesn't clog the hospitals or stack the dead who gives a fuck?

46 million out of work because you're a pussy

HHusky

RaceBannon said:

HHusky said:

Tequilla said:

HHusky said:

MelloDawg said:

I imagine Inslee will eventually do the same.

Probably. Trends are moving the wrong way.

Are they?

I get that cases are increasing but so has testing. By default, more testing was always going to lead to more cases ... including asymptomatic cases that we were never picking up initially.

The key stats to me have always been death, hospital capacity, and ICUs available for the most sick.

I'm fully resigned to the fact that life isn't going to be normal until at some point next year after there's a solid vaccine option available. I know that the balance of life is going to be at home, being very careful at who you associate with, maintaining distance as much as possible, and enjoying golf while I can.

But I'm not going to say that I'm super worried about 20 year olds in general getting the virus ... they will be fine.

The spike in cases is almost assuredly coming in part due to the protesting in June and the spread tied into it. It never made sense to me how we have been so diligent about maintaining space, sports shut down, etc. etc. but when it came to massive people gatherings for protest and related activities that was all ok. I'm not saying that protests and the right to assemble, freedom of speech, etc. isn't important so don't twist. I'm not saying that I'm not recognizing instances of police abuse and social justice so don't twist. But the uptick in at least some level makes a ton of sense given the events.

The rate of positive tests is too high here and most places.

How so?

If it doesn't clog the hospitals or stack the dead who gives a fuck?

46 million out of work because you're a pussy

Seriously? Do you ever read anything on this subject?

PurpleThrobber

Baseman said:

greenblood said:

Great...so a lot of these Californian morons will be coming up north, ruining it for everybody. I'm still pissed our? governors don't just shutdown their borders. It's quite simple: stop any vehicle with an out of state license plate. If they can't prove they are essential, slap them with a $2,500 fine. If people arrive out of state through air, then force them into two weeks quarantine, just like Hawaii is doing. I for one think this is way overblown, but if shutting down the borders keeps the states open for the most part, I'm all for it. Nobody really wants Californians anyway.

Hearing there's no sales tax in Oregon and their gas station attendants even pump the gas for you!

Do the attendants stack bodies like cordwood between fill-ups?

huskyhooligan

LebamDawg said:

Boy I wish we had something to protest about so we could put the Vid on the back burner.

I'm willing to protest for social justice at Husky Stadium on say, Sep 5.

MelloDawg

RaceBannon said:

HHusky said:

Tequilla said:

HHusky said:

MelloDawg said:

I imagine Inslee will eventually do the same.

Probably. Trends are moving the wrong way.

Are they?

I get that cases are increasing but so has testing. By default, more testing was always going to lead to more cases ... including asymptomatic cases that we were never picking up initially.

The key stats to me have always been death, hospital capacity, and ICUs available for the most sick.

I'm fully resigned to the fact that life isn't going to be normal until at some point next year after there's a solid vaccine option available. I know that the balance of life is going to be at home, being very careful at who you associate with, maintaining distance as much as possible, and enjoying golf while I can.

But I'm not going to say that I'm super worried about 20 year olds in general getting the virus ... they will be fine.

The spike in cases is almost assuredly coming in part due to the protesting in June and the spread tied into it. It never made sense to me how we have been so diligent about maintaining space, sports shut down, etc. etc. but when it came to massive people gatherings for protest and related activities that was all ok. I'm not saying that protests and the right to assemble, freedom of speech, etc. isn't important so don't twist. I'm not saying that I'm not recognizing instances of police abuse and social justice so don't twist. But the uptick in at least some level makes a ton of sense given the events.

The rate of positive tests is too high here and most places.

How so?

If it doesn't clog the hospitals or stack the dead who gives a fuck?

46 million out of work because you're a pussy

I guess I'm curious what you consider to be "clogged" or how we should interpret commentary from people who work at hospitals. I read a news blurb today from the Republican mayor of Miami that said hospitals are "at their peak" and are at 91-92% capacity and that staffing has become an issue. I'm no hospital administrator, but that number seems like it could cause problems. Is it all COVID? No, probably not, but I don't imagine COVID is helping.

RaceBannon

HHusky said:

RaceBannon said:

HHusky said:

Tequilla said:

HHusky said:

MelloDawg said:

I imagine Inslee will eventually do the same.

Probably. Trends are moving the wrong way.

Are they?

I get that cases are increasing but so has testing. By default, more testing was always going to lead to more cases ... including asymptomatic cases that we were never picking up initially.

The key stats to me have always been death, hospital capacity, and ICUs available for the most sick.

I'm fully resigned to the fact that life isn't going to be normal until at some point next year after there's a solid vaccine option available. I know that the balance of life is going to be at home, being very careful at who you associate with, maintaining distance as much as possible, and enjoying golf while I can.

But I'm not going to say that I'm super worried about 20 year olds in general getting the virus ... they will be fine.

The spike in cases is almost assuredly coming in part due to the protesting in June and the spread tied into it. It never made sense to me how we have been so diligent about maintaining space, sports shut down, etc. etc. but when it came to massive people gatherings for protest and related activities that was all ok. I'm not saying that protests and the right to assemble, freedom of speech, etc. isn't important so don't twist. I'm not saying that I'm not recognizing instances of police abuse and social justice so don't twist. But the uptick in at least some level makes a ton of sense given the events.

The rate of positive tests is too high here and most places.

How so?

If it doesn't clog the hospitals or stack the dead who gives a fuck?

46 million out of work because you're a pussy

Seriously? Do you ever read anything on this subject?

I knew you couldn't explain your own talking point