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I've been reading the same bullshit since MarchMelloDawg said:
I guess I'm curious what you consider to be "clogged" or how we should interpret commentary from people who work at hospitals. I read a news blurb today from the Republican mayor of Miami that said hospitals are "at their peak" and are at 91-92% capacity and that staffing has become an issue. I'm no hospital administrator, but that number seems like it could cause problems. Is it all COVID? No, probably not, but I don't imagine COVID is helping.RaceBannon said:
How so?HHusky said:
The rate of positive tests is too high here and most places.Tequilla said:
Are they?HHusky said:
Probably. Trends are moving the wrong way.MelloDawg said:I imagine Inslee will eventually do the same.
I get that cases are increasing but so has testing. By default, more testing was always going to lead to more cases ... including asymptomatic cases that we were never picking up initially.
The key stats to me have always been death, hospital capacity, and ICUs available for the most sick.
I'm fully resigned to the fact that life isn't going to be normal until at some point next year after there's a solid vaccine option available. I know that the balance of life is going to be at home, being very careful at who you associate with, maintaining distance as much as possible, and enjoying golf while I can.
But I'm not going to say that I'm super worried about 20 year olds in general getting the virus ... they will be fine.
The spike in cases is almost assuredly coming in part due to the protesting in June and the spread tied into it. It never made sense to me how we have been so diligent about maintaining space, sports shut down, etc. etc. but when it came to massive people gatherings for protest and related activities that was all ok. I'm not saying that protests and the right to assemble, freedom of speech, etc. isn't important so don't twist. I'm not saying that I'm not recognizing instances of police abuse and social justice so don't twist. But the uptick in at least some level makes a ton of sense given the events.
If it doesn't clog the hospitals or stack the dead who gives a fuck?
46 million out of work because you're a pussy
And I don't fall for it
46 million unemployed
I don't imagine that helps anyone other than Biden and his supporters -
It also puts tens of millions on government dependence. No need to vote in Socialism when you can manufacture a “pandemic” and arrest people who just want to work and pay bills.RaceBannon said:
I've been reading the same bullshit since MarchMelloDawg said:
I guess I'm curious what you consider to be "clogged" or how we should interpret commentary from people who work at hospitals. I read a news blurb today from the Republican mayor of Miami that said hospitals are "at their peak" and are at 91-92% capacity and that staffing has become an issue. I'm no hospital administrator, but that number seems like it could cause problems. Is it all COVID? No, probably not, but I don't imagine COVID is helping.RaceBannon said:
How so?HHusky said:
The rate of positive tests is too high here and most places.Tequilla said:
Are they?HHusky said:
Probably. Trends are moving the wrong way.MelloDawg said:I imagine Inslee will eventually do the same.
I get that cases are increasing but so has testing. By default, more testing was always going to lead to more cases ... including asymptomatic cases that we were never picking up initially.
The key stats to me have always been death, hospital capacity, and ICUs available for the most sick.
I'm fully resigned to the fact that life isn't going to be normal until at some point next year after there's a solid vaccine option available. I know that the balance of life is going to be at home, being very careful at who you associate with, maintaining distance as much as possible, and enjoying golf while I can.
But I'm not going to say that I'm super worried about 20 year olds in general getting the virus ... they will be fine.
The spike in cases is almost assuredly coming in part due to the protesting in June and the spread tied into it. It never made sense to me how we have been so diligent about maintaining space, sports shut down, etc. etc. but when it came to massive people gatherings for protest and related activities that was all ok. I'm not saying that protests and the right to assemble, freedom of speech, etc. isn't important so don't twist. I'm not saying that I'm not recognizing instances of police abuse and social justice so don't twist. But the uptick in at least some level makes a ton of sense given the events.
If it doesn't clog the hospitals or stack the dead who gives a fuck?
46 million out of work because you're a pussy
And I don't fall for it
46 million unemployed
I don't imagine that helps anyone other than Biden and his supporters
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You don't fall for it in that you don't think that percentages like that are accurate (hence, made up) or you don't fall for it in that you don't think that numbers like that can be problematic for hospitals? Or abundance?RaceBannon said:
I've been reading the same bullshit since MarchMelloDawg said:
I guess I'm curious what you consider to be "clogged" or how we should interpret commentary from people who work at hospitals. I read a news blurb today from the Republican mayor of Miami that said hospitals are "at their peak" and are at 91-92% capacity and that staffing has become an issue. I'm no hospital administrator, but that number seems like it could cause problems. Is it all COVID? No, probably not, but I don't imagine COVID is helping.RaceBannon said:
How so?HHusky said:
The rate of positive tests is too high here and most places.Tequilla said:
Are they?HHusky said:
Probably. Trends are moving the wrong way.MelloDawg said:I imagine Inslee will eventually do the same.
I get that cases are increasing but so has testing. By default, more testing was always going to lead to more cases ... including asymptomatic cases that we were never picking up initially.
The key stats to me have always been death, hospital capacity, and ICUs available for the most sick.
I'm fully resigned to the fact that life isn't going to be normal until at some point next year after there's a solid vaccine option available. I know that the balance of life is going to be at home, being very careful at who you associate with, maintaining distance as much as possible, and enjoying golf while I can.
But I'm not going to say that I'm super worried about 20 year olds in general getting the virus ... they will be fine.
The spike in cases is almost assuredly coming in part due to the protesting in June and the spread tied into it. It never made sense to me how we have been so diligent about maintaining space, sports shut down, etc. etc. but when it came to massive people gatherings for protest and related activities that was all ok. I'm not saying that protests and the right to assemble, freedom of speech, etc. isn't important so don't twist. I'm not saying that I'm not recognizing instances of police abuse and social justice so don't twist. But the uptick in at least some level makes a ton of sense given the events.
If it doesn't clog the hospitals or stack the dead who gives a fuck?
46 million out of work because you're a pussy
And I don't fall for it
46 million unemployed
I don't imagine that helps anyone other than Biden and his supporters
Bad economic numbers do help Biden, however, you're right. -
ScamdemicNorthwestFresh said:
It also puts tens of millions on government dependence. No need to vote in Socialism when you can manufacture a “pandemic” and arrest people who just want to work and pay bills.RaceBannon said:
I've been reading the same bullshit since MarchMelloDawg said:
I guess I'm curious what you consider to be "clogged" or how we should interpret commentary from people who work at hospitals. I read a news blurb today from the Republican mayor of Miami that said hospitals are "at their peak" and are at 91-92% capacity and that staffing has become an issue. I'm no hospital administrator, but that number seems like it could cause problems. Is it all COVID? No, probably not, but I don't imagine COVID is helping.RaceBannon said:
How so?HHusky said:
The rate of positive tests is too high here and most places.Tequilla said:
Are they?HHusky said:
Probably. Trends are moving the wrong way.MelloDawg said:I imagine Inslee will eventually do the same.
I get that cases are increasing but so has testing. By default, more testing was always going to lead to more cases ... including asymptomatic cases that we were never picking up initially.
The key stats to me have always been death, hospital capacity, and ICUs available for the most sick.
I'm fully resigned to the fact that life isn't going to be normal until at some point next year after there's a solid vaccine option available. I know that the balance of life is going to be at home, being very careful at who you associate with, maintaining distance as much as possible, and enjoying golf while I can.
But I'm not going to say that I'm super worried about 20 year olds in general getting the virus ... they will be fine.
The spike in cases is almost assuredly coming in part due to the protesting in June and the spread tied into it. It never made sense to me how we have been so diligent about maintaining space, sports shut down, etc. etc. but when it came to massive people gatherings for protest and related activities that was all ok. I'm not saying that protests and the right to assemble, freedom of speech, etc. isn't important so don't twist. I'm not saying that I'm not recognizing instances of police abuse and social justice so don't twist. But the uptick in at least some level makes a ton of sense given the events.
If it doesn't clog the hospitals or stack the dead who gives a fuck?
46 million out of work because you're a pussy
And I don't fall for it
46 million unemployed
I don't imagine that helps anyone other than Biden and his supporters -
The curve is flattened. The hospitals are fine. The dead aren't stacked in the streetMelloDawg said:
You don't fall for it in that you don't think that percentages like that are accurate (hence, made up) or you in that you don't think that numbers like that can be problematic for hospitals? Or abundance?RaceBannon said:
I've been reading the same bullshit since MarchMelloDawg said:
I guess I'm curious what you consider to be "clogged" or how we should interpret commentary from people who work at hospitals. I read a news blurb today from the Republican mayor of Miami that said hospitals are "at their peak" and are at 91-92% capacity and that staffing has become an issue. I'm no hospital administrator, but that number seems like it could cause problems. Is it all COVID? No, probably not, but I don't imagine COVID is helping.RaceBannon said:
How so?HHusky said:
The rate of positive tests is too high here and most places.Tequilla said:
Are they?HHusky said:
Probably. Trends are moving the wrong way.MelloDawg said:I imagine Inslee will eventually do the same.
I get that cases are increasing but so has testing. By default, more testing was always going to lead to more cases ... including asymptomatic cases that we were never picking up initially.
The key stats to me have always been death, hospital capacity, and ICUs available for the most sick.
I'm fully resigned to the fact that life isn't going to be normal until at some point next year after there's a solid vaccine option available. I know that the balance of life is going to be at home, being very careful at who you associate with, maintaining distance as much as possible, and enjoying golf while I can.
But I'm not going to say that I'm super worried about 20 year olds in general getting the virus ... they will be fine.
The spike in cases is almost assuredly coming in part due to the protesting in June and the spread tied into it. It never made sense to me how we have been so diligent about maintaining space, sports shut down, etc. etc. but when it came to massive people gatherings for protest and related activities that was all ok. I'm not saying that protests and the right to assemble, freedom of speech, etc. isn't important so don't twist. I'm not saying that I'm not recognizing instances of police abuse and social justice so don't twist. But the uptick in at least some level makes a ton of sense given the events.
If it doesn't clog the hospitals or stack the dead who gives a fuck?
46 million out of work because you're a pussy
And I don't fall for it
46 million unemployed
I don't imagine that helps anyone other than Biden and his supporters
Bad economic numbers do help Biden, however, you're right.
That's why we closed in March and should have opened in April
I don't fall fo bullshit articles talking about 2 weeks from now for 4 months
Wake the fuck up -
Willful ignorance.RaceBannon said:
The curve is flattened.MelloDawg said:
You don't fall for it in that you don't think that percentages like that are accurate (hence, made up) or you in that you don't think that numbers like that can be problematic for hospitals? Or abundance?RaceBannon said:
I've been reading the same bullshit since MarchMelloDawg said:
I guess I'm curious what you consider to be "clogged" or how we should interpret commentary from people who work at hospitals. I read a news blurb today from the Republican mayor of Miami that said hospitals are "at their peak" and are at 91-92% capacity and that staffing has become an issue. I'm no hospital administrator, but that number seems like it could cause problems. Is it all COVID? No, probably not, but I don't imagine COVID is helping.RaceBannon said:
How so?HHusky said:
The rate of positive tests is too high here and most places.Tequilla said:
Are they?HHusky said:
Probably. Trends are moving the wrong way.MelloDawg said:I imagine Inslee will eventually do the same.
I get that cases are increasing but so has testing. By default, more testing was always going to lead to more cases ... including asymptomatic cases that we were never picking up initially.
The key stats to me have always been death, hospital capacity, and ICUs available for the most sick.
I'm fully resigned to the fact that life isn't going to be normal until at some point next year after there's a solid vaccine option available. I know that the balance of life is going to be at home, being very careful at who you associate with, maintaining distance as much as possible, and enjoying golf while I can.
But I'm not going to say that I'm super worried about 20 year olds in general getting the virus ... they will be fine.
The spike in cases is almost assuredly coming in part due to the protesting in June and the spread tied into it. It never made sense to me how we have been so diligent about maintaining space, sports shut down, etc. etc. but when it came to massive people gatherings for protest and related activities that was all ok. I'm not saying that protests and the right to assemble, freedom of speech, etc. isn't important so don't twist. I'm not saying that I'm not recognizing instances of police abuse and social justice so don't twist. But the uptick in at least some level makes a ton of sense given the events.
If it doesn't clog the hospitals or stack the dead who gives a fuck?
46 million out of work because you're a pussy
And I don't fall for it
46 million unemployed
I don't imagine that helps anyone other than Biden and his supporters
Bad economic numbers do help Biden, however, you're right. -
Willful ignorance is you and your coronabros ignoring the financial and mental impact of tens of millions out of a job for no good reason.HHusky said:
Willful ignorance.RaceBannon said:
The curve is flattened.MelloDawg said:
You don't fall for it in that you don't think that percentages like that are accurate (hence, made up) or you in that you don't think that numbers like that can be problematic for hospitals? Or abundance?RaceBannon said:
I've been reading the same bullshit since MarchMelloDawg said:
I guess I'm curious what you consider to be "clogged" or how we should interpret commentary from people who work at hospitals. I read a news blurb today from the Republican mayor of Miami that said hospitals are "at their peak" and are at 91-92% capacity and that staffing has become an issue. I'm no hospital administrator, but that number seems like it could cause problems. Is it all COVID? No, probably not, but I don't imagine COVID is helping.RaceBannon said:
How so?HHusky said:
The rate of positive tests is too high here and most places.Tequilla said:
Are they?HHusky said:
Probably. Trends are moving the wrong way.MelloDawg said:I imagine Inslee will eventually do the same.
I get that cases are increasing but so has testing. By default, more testing was always going to lead to more cases ... including asymptomatic cases that we were never picking up initially.
The key stats to me have always been death, hospital capacity, and ICUs available for the most sick.
I'm fully resigned to the fact that life isn't going to be normal until at some point next year after there's a solid vaccine option available. I know that the balance of life is going to be at home, being very careful at who you associate with, maintaining distance as much as possible, and enjoying golf while I can.
But I'm not going to say that I'm super worried about 20 year olds in general getting the virus ... they will be fine.
The spike in cases is almost assuredly coming in part due to the protesting in June and the spread tied into it. It never made sense to me how we have been so diligent about maintaining space, sports shut down, etc. etc. but when it came to massive people gatherings for protest and related activities that was all ok. I'm not saying that protests and the right to assemble, freedom of speech, etc. isn't important so don't twist. I'm not saying that I'm not recognizing instances of police abuse and social justice so don't twist. But the uptick in at least some level makes a ton of sense given the events.
If it doesn't clog the hospitals or stack the dead who gives a fuck?
46 million out of work because you're a pussy
And I don't fall for it
46 million unemployed
I don't imagine that helps anyone other than Biden and his supporters
Bad economic numbers do help Biden, however, you're right.
Did you take your forced airline trip yet? Poor guy may have to retire early because there are less olds with underlying conditions for him to prey upon. Feel his pain. -
MelloDawg said:
I could have missed it, but I'm not sure anyone said that the protests were conducive to the containment of COVID and, if you asked public health "experts," 100% of them would say it was a dumbfuck idea if you're trying to prevent spread. As such, they'd probably agree with you that the uptick is because of those protests. The people that protested thought that social justice and racial equality demonstrations superseded the chance they could get COVID, just like the kids who went to go party for spring break and Memorial Day thought the same. Neither was correct.Tequilla said:
Are they?HHusky said:
Probably. Trends are moving the wrong way.MelloDawg said:I imagine Inslee will eventually do the same.
I get that cases are increasing but so has testing. By default, more testing was always going to lead to more cases ... including asymptomatic cases that we were never picking up initially.
The key stats to me have always been death, hospital capacity, and ICUs available for the most sick.
I'm fully resigned to the fact that life isn't going to be normal until at some point next year after there's a solid vaccine option available. I know that the balance of life is going to be at home, being very careful at who you associate with, maintaining distance as much as possible, and enjoying golf while I can.
But I'm not going to say that I'm super worried about 20 year olds in general getting the virus ... they will be fine.
The spike in cases is almost assuredly coming in part due to the protesting in June and the spread tied into it. It never made sense to me how we have been so diligent about maintaining space, sports shut down, etc. etc. but when it came to massive people gatherings for protest and related activities that was all ok. I'm not saying that protests and the right to assemble, freedom of speech, etc. isn't important so don't twist. I'm not saying that I'm not recognizing instances of police abuse and social justice so don't twist. But the uptick in at least some level makes a ton of sense given the events.
I'd agree your metrics are probably the real way we should be looking at this, but they'll make the argument that more cases leads to more hospitalization leads to full ICU beds leads to deaths.
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Pick a lane. Do you want to lie about the data or claim you don't care about the data?NorthwestFresh said:
Willful ignorance is you and your coronabros ignoring the financial and mental impact of tens of millions out of a job for no good reason.HHusky said:
Willful ignorance.RaceBannon said:
The curve is flattened.MelloDawg said:
You don't fall for it in that you don't think that percentages like that are accurate (hence, made up) or you in that you don't think that numbers like that can be problematic for hospitals? Or abundance?RaceBannon said:
I've been reading the same bullshit since MarchMelloDawg said:
I guess I'm curious what you consider to be "clogged" or how we should interpret commentary from people who work at hospitals. I read a news blurb today from the Republican mayor of Miami that said hospitals are "at their peak" and are at 91-92% capacity and that staffing has become an issue. I'm no hospital administrator, but that number seems like it could cause problems. Is it all COVID? No, probably not, but I don't imagine COVID is helping.RaceBannon said:
How so?HHusky said:
The rate of positive tests is too high here and most places.Tequilla said:
Are they?HHusky said:
Probably. Trends are moving the wrong way.MelloDawg said:I imagine Inslee will eventually do the same.
I get that cases are increasing but so has testing. By default, more testing was always going to lead to more cases ... including asymptomatic cases that we were never picking up initially.
The key stats to me have always been death, hospital capacity, and ICUs available for the most sick.
I'm fully resigned to the fact that life isn't going to be normal until at some point next year after there's a solid vaccine option available. I know that the balance of life is going to be at home, being very careful at who you associate with, maintaining distance as much as possible, and enjoying golf while I can.
But I'm not going to say that I'm super worried about 20 year olds in general getting the virus ... they will be fine.
The spike in cases is almost assuredly coming in part due to the protesting in June and the spread tied into it. It never made sense to me how we have been so diligent about maintaining space, sports shut down, etc. etc. but when it came to massive people gatherings for protest and related activities that was all ok. I'm not saying that protests and the right to assemble, freedom of speech, etc. isn't important so don't twist. I'm not saying that I'm not recognizing instances of police abuse and social justice so don't twist. But the uptick in at least some level makes a ton of sense given the events.
If it doesn't clog the hospitals or stack the dead who gives a fuck?
46 million out of work because you're a pussy
And I don't fall for it
46 million unemployed
I don't imagine that helps anyone other than Biden and his supporters
Bad economic numbers do help Biden, however, you're right.
Did you take your forced airline trip yet? Poor guy may have to retire early because there are less olds with underlying conditions for him to prey upon. Feel his pain. -
Agreed that hospitalizations and deaths are the only stats that matter. But the increase in cases isn't purely a function of increased testing. The positivity rate has been increasing as well.Tequilla said:
Are they?HHusky said:
Probably. Trends are moving the wrong way.MelloDawg said:I imagine Inslee will eventually do the same.
I get that cases are increasing but so has testing. By default, more testing was always going to lead to more cases ... including asymptomatic cases that we were never picking up initially.
The key stats to me have always been death, hospital capacity, and ICUs available for the most sick.
I'm fully resigned to the fact that life isn't going to be normal until at some point next year after there's a solid vaccine option available. I know that the balance of life is going to be at home, being very careful at who you associate with, maintaining distance as much as possible, and enjoying golf while I can.
But I'm not going to say that I'm super worried about 20 year olds in general getting the virus ... they will be fine.
The spike in cases is almost assuredly coming in part due to the protesting in June and the spread tied into it. It never made sense to me how we have been so diligent about maintaining space, sports shut down, etc. etc. but when it came to massive people gatherings for protest and related activities that was all ok. I'm not saying that protests and the right to assemble, freedom of speech, etc. isn't important so don't twist. I'm not saying that I'm not recognizing instances of police abuse and social justice so don't twist. But the uptick in at least some level makes a ton of sense given the events.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/06/22/no-more-testing-doesnt-explain-rise-covid-19-cases-us/
If it doesn't result in an outcome of more and death, then at the end of the day it's relatively moot. But the "cases are increasing only because we're testing more" line of thinking, which at first glance appears to be common sense, isn't necessarily true.
