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  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,178 Standard Supporter
    DerekJohnson said:

    thechatch said:

    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    As one of the only people that post here that lives petty much in the heart of the city, this isn't really accurate DJ...

    Especially the part about it becoming Cleveland in 2 years.

    Tech is going no where.

    Dont get me wrong, there are some bat shit crazy policies. But it's far from the hell hole my fellow tuggers think it is.

    I live at 9th and Pine, across from the Paramount Theatre in one of the nicer apartment buildings in the city. The street below is littered with homelessness and drug use. Multiple Murders this year blocks from where I live. Cars and buildings set ablaze during the riots a month ago. DT Seattle is clearly on a descent. It is what it is. It’s the main reason I am pulling up tent stakes both on my home residence and office/warehouse space In SODO and moving to Bellevue.
    Sawant is a member of a Marxist organization. All her decisions on the City Council stem from what that organization tells her to do. The chaos you're seeing is not an accident.
    Almost all of the other council members vote in lock step with her. I remember watching a Seattle city council meeting when the big issue was the homelessness and the crime and violence it was bringing with it. As local after local came to the mic pleading for help from the council, the members sat there with a smile on their faces and ignored each and every voice they heard that day.
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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    YellowSnow said:

    I can tell you guysm from my own internal polling, the majority of current or would be Seattle home buyers aren’t all that phased by CHOP or Defund The Police. They seem to think it’s progress. There would have to be a massive uptick of violent crime in Madison Park, QA, Ravenna, etc before folks think there is a big problem.

    The o/u is $3m. Under is looking for any port in a storm. Over wants out (with a couple notable exceptions).

    #BellevueIsBooming
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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    thechatch said:

    It’s never going to be Cleveland or Newark because the economic bases aren’t comparable, especially with it being the POE to the Pacific Rim, but it will certainly becomes a city almost devoid of its founding culture, as it looks to acquiesce to a militant minority voting bloc and cater more and more to foreign Corporate, political, and economic pressure. If Amazon, MS, or Boeing ever decide that they’ve had enough with people like Sawant, it could be dark, dark times for what was once the metropolitan capital of the Pacific NW. There are measures that can be taken to mitigate and prevent such realities, but those are politically problematic for our woke leadership.

    The greater area will be fine, however Amazon is full stop moving to Bellevue. The publicly have said their entire Worldwide operations will be in Bellevue. They just signed another million sqft of office space last week. Nearly every office building coming out of the ground in the downtown Bellevue core has Amazon's name on it by ownership or committed lease.

    #BellevueIsBooming
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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    creepycoug said:

    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    As one of the only people that post here that lives petty much in the heart of the city, this isn't really accurate DJ...

    Especially the part about it becoming Cleveland in 2 years.

    Tech is going no where.

    Dont get me wrong, there are some bat shit crazy policies. But it's far from the hell hole my fellow tuggers think it is.

    This. I live in the city. This dystopian take is fun for the usual Tug Hyperbole Olympics, but it’s time to dial back the hysteria ladies. And whoever said Bellevue and the East Side is going to shit ... really? How so? In my view it’s never been better. ES has grown like crazy last 5 yrs, has more services, great public schools and tax base, and is attracting more bidness than ever. The only negative is that it’s become really expensive to buy in, and that is usually a sign that people want to be there.

    Yeah there are some challenges at the present moment, but relax for Christ’s sake. I was working downtown during WTO, and we? have had a homeless issues here on and off for years. The U District itself was a blight of homelessness when I was there in the late 80s / early 90s. Granted not to the level we see now, and I sure don’t remember anyone like Sawant b4. But fuck, that doesn’t mean the city will be an ash heap any time soon.

    Take a deep breath.
    100% THIS.

    Thankfully? my economic lively hood depends on it.
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  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,704 Founders Club
    ES Casinos are still shit
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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    edited July 2020
    thechatch said:

    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    As one of the only people that post here that lives petty much in the heart of the city, this isn't really accurate DJ...

    Especially the part about it becoming Cleveland in 2 years.

    Tech is going no where.

    Dont get me wrong, there are some bat shit crazy policies. But it's far from the hell hole my fellow tuggers think it is.

    I live at 9th and Pine, across from the Paramount Theatre in one of the nicer apartment buildings in the city. The street below is littered with homelessness and drug use. Multiple Murders this year blocks from where I live. Cars and buildings set ablaze during the riots a month ago. DT Seattle is clearly on a descent. It is what it is. It’s the main reason I am pulling up tent stakes both on my home residence and office/warehouse space In SODO and moving to Bellevue.
    Is that building full yet? It was an aggressive project when it came out of the ground. The luxury apartment (and downtown condo) market is currently flooded.

    Frankly that soft spot in the market is a leading indicator of what is to come for Seattle proper imo.
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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    LoneStarDawg said:

    ES Casinos are still shit

    The only place to go for poker is Fortune in Renton. 💯
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  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,704 Founders Club
    pawz said:

    LoneStarDawg said:

    ES Casinos are still shit

    The only place to go for poker is Fortune in Renton. 💯
    What if you want to choke slam someone?

    2016 ES used to be beat up your girlfriend TUFF
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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    LoneStarDawg said:

    pawz said:

    LoneStarDawg said:

    ES Casinos are still shit

    The only place to go for poker is Fortune in Renton. 💯
    What if you want to choke slam someone?

    2016 ES used to be beat up your girlfriend TUFF
    Udistrict or bust, baybee!

    Just yesterday a walked a homeless couple couple fighting and all I got out of the conversation was him demanding she get naked for some reason. Thanks, no thanks.
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  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,704 Founders Club
    pawz said:

    LoneStarDawg said:

    pawz said:

    LoneStarDawg said:

    ES Casinos are still shit

    The only place to go for poker is Fortune in Renton. 💯
    What if you want to choke slam someone?

    2016 ES used to be beat up your girlfriend TUFF
    Udistrict or bust, baybee!

    Just yesterday a walked a homeless couple couple fighting and all I got out of the conversation was him demanding she get naked for some reason. Thanks, no thanks.
    https://youtu.be/8maBNxzTZoc
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