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Anyone following this Bernardo Palacios-Carbajal police shooting in Utah?

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  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,971
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    alumni94 said:

    SFGbob said:

    They are now rioting in Utah of all places because aguy who had a gun and had just engaged in a armed robbery was running away from the police and refusing to drop his weapon. If you watch the video the piece of shit should have been shot much earlier. They yell at him to drop his weapon numerous times.

    Are we now at the point that armed criminals can't be shot even when they are refusing to drop their weapons? Who the fuck would ever want to be a cop?

    https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/07/09/salt-lake-county/

    I agree with you, but 34 rounds? Seems excessive.
    You keep shooting until the target stops moving. They shouldn't have to risk their lives just because the left might believe the number of rounds shot might be excessive. You commit an armed robbery and then run away from the cops with a gun, refuse to comply with the repeated requests to drop your weapon (intentionally, because he does drop his weapon a couple of times unintentionally, and then proceeds to pick it back up) bad things should happen to you.
    Generally agree, but still seems like a lot of lead. If for no other reason, stop shooting when the perp is a pile of red goo and save some bullets for the budget.
    What's the proper number of rounds that should be fired in this situation?
    Enough to make him dead, which shouldn't require 34 unless the cop is a shitty shot. Maybe that's the issue.

    I'm thinking, like, something south of 15? Sound reasonable?
    Each cop shot two more rounds than you believe is "reasonable." I guess in all the excitement, they kind of lost track of the reasonable number of shots they should have been firing.

    34 rounds and they only hit him 13 to 15 times and of those how many were fatal?
    So, 13 to 15. So, reasonable. All good now; we don't need to litigate this one. If you have been thinking I actually click on the links to the infinite number of articles posted in the Tug, and actually read them, it's because you are probably unaware of my attention disorder. I let you guys find and read read the article and argue about them. I pick a side and jump in. You guys do most of the work.

    Said another way, I really don't care one way or the other about this. I just agreed with someone that it sounded like a lot of lead, but dead is dead. Like you said, you do bad things, bad things will eventually happen to you.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,971
    Sledog said:

    I didn't know that any of my Latino bros lived in Utah. Da fuck are they doing there in the first place?

    They’ve been there for 30 years. I used to clear ski runs and dig ditches with illegal Messicans in Utah @creepycoug
    But no one else wanted those jobs!
    Sleddy, I think you missed the point of Yella's post ... by about 180 degrees.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,971
    89ute said:

    I didn't know that any of my Latino bros lived in Utah. Da fuck are they doing there in the first place?

    The same way we got our D-Line, missionaries bringing souls unto Christ.
    POTD. Well played Ute.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,971
    thechatch said:

    The police NUMBER ONE JOB is to protect the community and themselves from violent criminals. You can’t just run from a crime scene with a weapon and expect them to wave to you because your back is turned.

    Fuck off with the rest of the nonsense. I’m tired of this shit. We are at the point where every shooting(not every shooting...just those involving a POC) is being lumped in with Freddie Gray or George Floyd. It’s just not the case, and this is wholly owed to the way liberals and The News package and present their messaging, catering to the social media musings and rants of a bunch of people so ignorantly partisan in their political ideologies and twisted up in SJW fetishes that they look for boogeymen in every single interpersonal interaction they encounter, online or otherwise.

    Let me be clear. I cannot stand the way Donald Trump carries himself and the office of POTUS. I cannot stand the uneven messaging and incendiary divisive tweets. I want a unifier and a leader as a president...not a boorish shit slinger. I cannot stand the disjointed FP from the WH.

    All that said, I’m almost ready to stroke a vote for the guy, just because I am sick of all the other shit from the left even more. My King Co vote is a throwaway anyway, so it doesn’t matter, but the way the MSM serves up news narratives is fucking embarrassing, and I’ve spent the last 2 months watching the neighborhood where I live and work descend into chaos because of a total abdication of responsibility from democratic leadership, at best, and willful provocation, at worst.

    All the Dems had to do was present a unifying message and a centrist candidate to get my vote in November, but instead the party seems to be going all in on race wars and socialism. In 2020 I’ll be voting R across the fucking board, even though I’d probably give Trump a D as POTUS right now.

    - Protect those individual civil rights outlined in the constitution
    - Keep taxes low
    - Keep Employment and GDP High
    - Acknowledge and embrace our geopolitical allies
    - Acknowledge and confront our geopolitical adversaries, and do it from a position of strength
    - Leave the rest of the shit up to the states.

    That is all I ask. That’s all we really fucking need. The rest is just a bunch of window dressing.

    Fuck.

    You capture my sentiments exactly. Are you Cuban by chance?
  • CH0PwarlordCH0Pwarlord Member Posts: 224
    We should make homeless people who want to go to jail for 3 hots and a cot, armed police. They could enforce laws as they please and at worst they end up in jail in a better situation. Win win.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,971
    edited July 2020
    89ute said:

    thechatch said:

    The police NUMBER ONE JOB is to protect the community and themselves from violent criminals. You can’t just run from a crime scene with a weapon and expect them to wave to you because your back is turned.

    Fuck off with the rest of the nonsense. I’m tired of this shit. We are at the point where every shooting(not every shooting...just those involving a POC) is being lumped in with Freddie Gray or George Floyd. It’s just not the case, and this is wholly owed to the way liberals and The News package and present their messaging, catering to the social media musings and rants of a bunch of people so ignorantly partisan in their political ideologies and twisted up in SJW fetishes that they look for boogeymen in every single interpersonal interaction they encounter, online or otherwise.

    Let me be clear. I cannot stand the way Donald Trump carries himself and the office of POTUS. I cannot stand the uneven messaging and incendiary divisive tweets. I want a unifier and a leader as a president...not a boorish shit slinger. I cannot stand the disjointed FP from the WH.

    All that said, I’m almost ready to stroke a vote for the guy, just because I am sick of all the other shit from the left even more. My King Co vote is a throwaway anyway, so it doesn’t matter, but the way the MSM serves up news narratives is fucking embarrassing, and I’ve spent the last 2 months watching the neighborhood where I live and work descend into chaos because of a total abdication of responsibility from democratic leadership, at best, and willful provocation, at worst.

    All the Dems had to do was present a unifying message and a centrist candidate to get my vote in November, but instead the party seems to be going all in on race wars and socialism. In 2020 I’ll be voting R across the fucking board, even though I’d probably give Trump a D as POTUS right now.

    - Protect those individual civil rights outlined in the constitution
    - Keep taxes low
    - Keep Employment and GDP High
    - Acknowledge and embrace our geopolitical allies
    - Acknowledge and confront our geopolitical adversaries, and do it from a position of strength
    - Leave the rest of the shit up to the states.

    That is all I ask. That’s all we really fucking need. The rest is just a bunch of window dressing.

    Fuck.

    I think you're going to like what comes after Trump (Ted Cruz). Trump is cutting a new path, a path that was once there but became overgrown with decades of bullshit. The path of of being okay with being proud of your country. It's okay to stand up tho China, it's okay to push an America first agenda. I believe it took a guy like Trump to pull this off. Please and thank you will not wake people up.

    I wonder if Ted has the balls for it. I wonder if he's Tug Skrong enough. He got his balls pushed up into his asshole when Trump made fun of his wife. Fuck, that was a warm up for Trump.

    Will Ted be able to align himself, and appeal, to the hard ass right to help him battle the hard ass left?

    I don't know. Cruz, as I said, likes to come off skrong with preacher-like fire and brimstone. But he whines a lot and gets his dick bent rather easily. Like I said, Trump sent him home crying with a warm up shot.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,944

    89ute said:

    thechatch said:

    The police NUMBER ONE JOB is to protect the community and themselves from violent criminals. You can’t just run from a crime scene with a weapon and expect them to wave to you because your back is turned.

    Fuck off with the rest of the nonsense. I’m tired of this shit. We are at the point where every shooting(not every shooting...just those involving a POC) is being lumped in with Freddie Gray or George Floyd. It’s just not the case, and this is wholly owed to the way liberals and The News package and present their messaging, catering to the social media musings and rants of a bunch of people so ignorantly partisan in their political ideologies and twisted up in SJW fetishes that they look for boogeymen in every single interpersonal interaction they encounter, online or otherwise.

    Let me be clear. I cannot stand the way Donald Trump carries himself and the office of POTUS. I cannot stand the uneven messaging and incendiary divisive tweets. I want a unifier and a leader as a president...not a boorish shit slinger. I cannot stand the disjointed FP from the WH.

    All that said, I’m almost ready to stroke a vote for the guy, just because I am sick of all the other shit from the left even more. My King Co vote is a throwaway anyway, so it doesn’t matter, but the way the MSM serves up news narratives is fucking embarrassing, and I’ve spent the last 2 months watching the neighborhood where I live and work descend into chaos because of a total abdication of responsibility from democratic leadership, at best, and willful provocation, at worst.

    All the Dems had to do was present a unifying message and a centrist candidate to get my vote in November, but instead the party seems to be going all in on race wars and socialism. In 2020 I’ll be voting R across the fucking board, even though I’d probably give Trump a D as POTUS right now.

    - Protect those individual civil rights outlined in the constitution
    - Keep taxes low
    - Keep Employment and GDP High
    - Acknowledge and embrace our geopolitical allies
    - Acknowledge and confront our geopolitical adversaries, and do it from a position of strength
    - Leave the rest of the shit up to the states.

    That is all I ask. That’s all we really fucking need. The rest is just a bunch of window dressing.

    Fuck.

    I think you're going to like what comes after Trump (Ted Cruz). Trump is cutting a new path, a path that was once there but became overgrown with decades of bullshit. The path of of being okay with being proud of your country. It's okay to stand up tho China, it's okay to push an America first agenda. I believe it took a guy like Trump to pull this off. Please and thank you will not wake people up.

    I wonder if Ted has the balls for it. I wonder if he's Tug Skrong enough. He got his balls pushed up into his asshole when Trump made fun of his wife. Fuck, that was a warm up for Trump.

    Will Ted be able to align himself, and appeal, to the hard ass right to help him battle the hard ass left?

    I don't know. Cruz, as I said, likes to come off skrong with preacher-like fire and brimstone. But he whines a lot and gets his dick bent rather easily. Like I said, Trump sent him home crying with a warm up shot.
    I like Cruz but his demeanor is really off putting for some people. I don't see him being able to attract the support Trump has.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,971
    edited July 2020
    SFGbob said:

    89ute said:

    thechatch said:

    The police NUMBER ONE JOB is to protect the community and themselves from violent criminals. You can’t just run from a crime scene with a weapon and expect them to wave to you because your back is turned.

    Fuck off with the rest of the nonsense. I’m tired of this shit. We are at the point where every shooting(not every shooting...just those involving a POC) is being lumped in with Freddie Gray or George Floyd. It’s just not the case, and this is wholly owed to the way liberals and The News package and present their messaging, catering to the social media musings and rants of a bunch of people so ignorantly partisan in their political ideologies and twisted up in SJW fetishes that they look for boogeymen in every single interpersonal interaction they encounter, online or otherwise.

    Let me be clear. I cannot stand the way Donald Trump carries himself and the office of POTUS. I cannot stand the uneven messaging and incendiary divisive tweets. I want a unifier and a leader as a president...not a boorish shit slinger. I cannot stand the disjointed FP from the WH.

    All that said, I’m almost ready to stroke a vote for the guy, just because I am sick of all the other shit from the left even more. My King Co vote is a throwaway anyway, so it doesn’t matter, but the way the MSM serves up news narratives is fucking embarrassing, and I’ve spent the last 2 months watching the neighborhood where I live and work descend into chaos because of a total abdication of responsibility from democratic leadership, at best, and willful provocation, at worst.

    All the Dems had to do was present a unifying message and a centrist candidate to get my vote in November, but instead the party seems to be going all in on race wars and socialism. In 2020 I’ll be voting R across the fucking board, even though I’d probably give Trump a D as POTUS right now.

    - Protect those individual civil rights outlined in the constitution
    - Keep taxes low
    - Keep Employment and GDP High
    - Acknowledge and embrace our geopolitical allies
    - Acknowledge and confront our geopolitical adversaries, and do it from a position of strength
    - Leave the rest of the shit up to the states.

    That is all I ask. That’s all we really fucking need. The rest is just a bunch of window dressing.

    Fuck.

    I think you're going to like what comes after Trump (Ted Cruz). Trump is cutting a new path, a path that was once there but became overgrown with decades of bullshit. The path of of being okay with being proud of your country. It's okay to stand up tho China, it's okay to push an America first agenda. I believe it took a guy like Trump to pull this off. Please and thank you will not wake people up.

    I wonder if Ted has the balls for it. I wonder if he's Tug Skrong enough. He got his balls pushed up into his asshole when Trump made fun of his wife. Fuck, that was a warm up for Trump.

    Will Ted be able to align himself, and appeal, to the hard ass right to help him battle the hard ass left?

    I don't know. Cruz, as I said, likes to come off skrong with preacher-like fire and brimstone. But he whines a lot and gets his dick bent rather easily. Like I said, Trump sent him home crying with a warm up shot.
    I like Cruz but his demeanor is really off putting for some people. I don't see him being able to attract the support Trump has.
    That too. I actually do like him. He's really fucking smart. Plus, he has Cuban blood running through his veins, so you know he's got the goods. And, for those of us who occasionally bristle at Don's behavior, Cruz would conduct himself like a statesman and say 1/1000th of the stupid shit that Trump says.

    He's a little too much evangelical camp for my tastes, but I could get over that.

    His real problem is, as you say, he has an offputting way about him. I can't quite put my finger on it. It's a weird combination of trying too hard, being pedantic and sounding whinny. Or something. There is something that makes him come off insincere, or like he's trying hard to be a persona. He certainly isn't the natural that Trump. In those ways, he lacks anything like Trump's charisma.

    I think a lot of people who love Trump might find Cruz underwhelming.
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,357 Founders Club

    I didn't know that any of my Latino bros lived in Utah. Da fuck are they doing there in the first place?

    Must be crops that need picking
    Good thing you don't write for Tucker.
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,357 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    I didn't know that any of my Latino bros lived in Utah. Da fuck are they doing there in the first place?

    Must be crops that need picking
    Or toilets to be cleaned.

    https://youtu.be/a8INEYLFWwc
    Kelly Osbourne. Honey, you're ugly, you're fat and you have no talent. The only thing you have going for you, and I mean the ONLY thing, is that your Ozzy mounted your mommy in a closet somewhere the day you were conceived.

    With that in mind, sit pretty much everything out, hang out by your pool and go shopping. You've earned it.
    YBFE
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,357 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    89ute said:

    thechatch said:

    The police NUMBER ONE JOB is to protect the community and themselves from violent criminals. You can’t just run from a crime scene with a weapon and expect them to wave to you because your back is turned.

    Fuck off with the rest of the nonsense. I’m tired of this shit. We are at the point where every shooting(not every shooting...just those involving a POC) is being lumped in with Freddie Gray or George Floyd. It’s just not the case, and this is wholly owed to the way liberals and The News package and present their messaging, catering to the social media musings and rants of a bunch of people so ignorantly partisan in their political ideologies and twisted up in SJW fetishes that they look for boogeymen in every single interpersonal interaction they encounter, online or otherwise.

    Let me be clear. I cannot stand the way Donald Trump carries himself and the office of POTUS. I cannot stand the uneven messaging and incendiary divisive tweets. I want a unifier and a leader as a president...not a boorish shit slinger. I cannot stand the disjointed FP from the WH.

    All that said, I’m almost ready to stroke a vote for the guy, just because I am sick of all the other shit from the left even more. My King Co vote is a throwaway anyway, so it doesn’t matter, but the way the MSM serves up news narratives is fucking embarrassing, and I’ve spent the last 2 months watching the neighborhood where I live and work descend into chaos because of a total abdication of responsibility from democratic leadership, at best, and willful provocation, at worst.

    All the Dems had to do was present a unifying message and a centrist candidate to get my vote in November, but instead the party seems to be going all in on race wars and socialism. In 2020 I’ll be voting R across the fucking board, even though I’d probably give Trump a D as POTUS right now.

    - Protect those individual civil rights outlined in the constitution
    - Keep taxes low
    - Keep Employment and GDP High
    - Acknowledge and embrace our geopolitical allies
    - Acknowledge and confront our geopolitical adversaries, and do it from a position of strength
    - Leave the rest of the shit up to the states.

    That is all I ask. That’s all we really fucking need. The rest is just a bunch of window dressing.

    Fuck.

    I think you're going to like what comes after Trump (Ted Cruz). Trump is cutting a new path, a path that was once there but became overgrown with decades of bullshit. The path of of being okay with being proud of your country. It's okay to stand up tho China, it's okay to push an America first agenda. I believe it took a guy like Trump to pull this off. Please and thank you will not wake people up.

    I wonder if Ted has the balls for it. I wonder if he's Tug Skrong enough. He got his balls pushed up into his asshole when Trump made fun of his wife. Fuck, that was a warm up for Trump.

    Will Ted be able to align himself, and appeal, to the hard ass right to help him battle the hard ass left?

    I don't know. Cruz, as I said, likes to come off skrong with preacher-like fire and brimstone. But he whines a lot and gets his dick bent rather easily. Like I said, Trump sent him home crying with a warm up shot.
    I like Cruz but his demeanor is really off putting for some people. I don't see him being able to attract the support Trump has.
    That too. I actually do like him. He's really fucking smart. Plus, he has Cuban blood running through his veins, so you know he's got the goods. And, for those of us who occasionally bristle at Don's behavior, Cruz would conduct himself like a statesman and say 1/1000th of the stupid shit that Trump says.

    He's a little too much evangelical camp for my tastes, but I could get over that.

    His real problem is, as you say, he has an offputting way about him. I can't quite put my finger on it. It's a weird combination of trying too hard, being pedantic and sounding whinny. Or something. There is something that makes him come off insincere, or like he's trying hard to be a persona. He certainly isn't the natural that Trump. In those ways, he lacks anything like Trump's charisma.

    I think a lot of people who love Trump might find Cruz underwhelming.
    On paper I like most of Cruz (position wise), but you nailed it, he is just offputting. Not a charismatic bone in his body. Hell Biden has more charisma and he doesn't even know where he is. It's the nasally voice, used car salesman looks, and general "fake politician vibe" he exudes.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 43,594 Standard Supporter
    Swaye said:

    SFGbob said:

    89ute said:

    thechatch said:

    The police NUMBER ONE JOB is to protect the community and themselves from violent criminals. You can’t just run from a crime scene with a weapon and expect them to wave to you because your back is turned.

    Fuck off with the rest of the nonsense. I’m tired of this shit. We are at the point where every shooting(not every shooting...just those involving a POC) is being lumped in with Freddie Gray or George Floyd. It’s just not the case, and this is wholly owed to the way liberals and The News package and present their messaging, catering to the social media musings and rants of a bunch of people so ignorantly partisan in their political ideologies and twisted up in SJW fetishes that they look for boogeymen in every single interpersonal interaction they encounter, online or otherwise.

    Let me be clear. I cannot stand the way Donald Trump carries himself and the office of POTUS. I cannot stand the uneven messaging and incendiary divisive tweets. I want a unifier and a leader as a president...not a boorish shit slinger. I cannot stand the disjointed FP from the WH.

    All that said, I’m almost ready to stroke a vote for the guy, just because I am sick of all the other shit from the left even more. My King Co vote is a throwaway anyway, so it doesn’t matter, but the way the MSM serves up news narratives is fucking embarrassing, and I’ve spent the last 2 months watching the neighborhood where I live and work descend into chaos because of a total abdication of responsibility from democratic leadership, at best, and willful provocation, at worst.

    All the Dems had to do was present a unifying message and a centrist candidate to get my vote in November, but instead the party seems to be going all in on race wars and socialism. In 2020 I’ll be voting R across the fucking board, even though I’d probably give Trump a D as POTUS right now.

    - Protect those individual civil rights outlined in the constitution
    - Keep taxes low
    - Keep Employment and GDP High
    - Acknowledge and embrace our geopolitical allies
    - Acknowledge and confront our geopolitical adversaries, and do it from a position of strength
    - Leave the rest of the shit up to the states.

    That is all I ask. That’s all we really fucking need. The rest is just a bunch of window dressing.

    Fuck.

    I think you're going to like what comes after Trump (Ted Cruz). Trump is cutting a new path, a path that was once there but became overgrown with decades of bullshit. The path of of being okay with being proud of your country. It's okay to stand up tho China, it's okay to push an America first agenda. I believe it took a guy like Trump to pull this off. Please and thank you will not wake people up.

    I wonder if Ted has the balls for it. I wonder if he's Tug Skrong enough. He got his balls pushed up into his asshole when Trump made fun of his wife. Fuck, that was a warm up for Trump.

    Will Ted be able to align himself, and appeal, to the hard ass right to help him battle the hard ass left?

    I don't know. Cruz, as I said, likes to come off skrong with preacher-like fire and brimstone. But he whines a lot and gets his dick bent rather easily. Like I said, Trump sent him home crying with a warm up shot.
    I like Cruz but his demeanor is really off putting for some people. I don't see him being able to attract the support Trump has.
    That too. I actually do like him. He's really fucking smart. Plus, he has Cuban blood running through his veins, so you know he's got the goods. And, for those of us who occasionally bristle at Don's behavior, Cruz would conduct himself like a statesman and say 1/1000th of the stupid shit that Trump says.

    He's a little too much evangelical camp for my tastes, but I could get over that.

    His real problem is, as you say, he has an offputting way about him. I can't quite put my finger on it. It's a weird combination of trying too hard, being pedantic and sounding whinny. Or something. There is something that makes him come off insincere, or like he's trying hard to be a persona. He certainly isn't the natural that Trump. In those ways, he lacks anything like Trump's charisma.

    I think a lot of people who love Trump might find Cruz underwhelming.
    On paper I like most of Cruz (position wise), but you nailed it, he is just offputting. Not a charismatic bone in his body. Hell Biden has more charisma and he doesn't even know where he is. It's the nasally voice, used car salesman looks, and general "fake politician vibe" he exudes.
    Cruz is stepping up his pithy twitters game. He’s doing a pretty decent job of transforming into an internet tuff guy.

    I’d share a Four Loco with him at the 7-11 on Aurora in the UDistrict lately.
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,357 Founders Club

    Swaye said:

    SFGbob said:

    89ute said:

    thechatch said:

    The police NUMBER ONE JOB is to protect the community and themselves from violent criminals. You can’t just run from a crime scene with a weapon and expect them to wave to you because your back is turned.

    Fuck off with the rest of the nonsense. I’m tired of this shit. We are at the point where every shooting(not every shooting...just those involving a POC) is being lumped in with Freddie Gray or George Floyd. It’s just not the case, and this is wholly owed to the way liberals and The News package and present their messaging, catering to the social media musings and rants of a bunch of people so ignorantly partisan in their political ideologies and twisted up in SJW fetishes that they look for boogeymen in every single interpersonal interaction they encounter, online or otherwise.

    Let me be clear. I cannot stand the way Donald Trump carries himself and the office of POTUS. I cannot stand the uneven messaging and incendiary divisive tweets. I want a unifier and a leader as a president...not a boorish shit slinger. I cannot stand the disjointed FP from the WH.

    All that said, I’m almost ready to stroke a vote for the guy, just because I am sick of all the other shit from the left even more. My King Co vote is a throwaway anyway, so it doesn’t matter, but the way the MSM serves up news narratives is fucking embarrassing, and I’ve spent the last 2 months watching the neighborhood where I live and work descend into chaos because of a total abdication of responsibility from democratic leadership, at best, and willful provocation, at worst.

    All the Dems had to do was present a unifying message and a centrist candidate to get my vote in November, but instead the party seems to be going all in on race wars and socialism. In 2020 I’ll be voting R across the fucking board, even though I’d probably give Trump a D as POTUS right now.

    - Protect those individual civil rights outlined in the constitution
    - Keep taxes low
    - Keep Employment and GDP High
    - Acknowledge and embrace our geopolitical allies
    - Acknowledge and confront our geopolitical adversaries, and do it from a position of strength
    - Leave the rest of the shit up to the states.

    That is all I ask. That’s all we really fucking need. The rest is just a bunch of window dressing.

    Fuck.

    I think you're going to like what comes after Trump (Ted Cruz). Trump is cutting a new path, a path that was once there but became overgrown with decades of bullshit. The path of of being okay with being proud of your country. It's okay to stand up tho China, it's okay to push an America first agenda. I believe it took a guy like Trump to pull this off. Please and thank you will not wake people up.

    I wonder if Ted has the balls for it. I wonder if he's Tug Skrong enough. He got his balls pushed up into his asshole when Trump made fun of his wife. Fuck, that was a warm up for Trump.

    Will Ted be able to align himself, and appeal, to the hard ass right to help him battle the hard ass left?

    I don't know. Cruz, as I said, likes to come off skrong with preacher-like fire and brimstone. But he whines a lot and gets his dick bent rather easily. Like I said, Trump sent him home crying with a warm up shot.
    I like Cruz but his demeanor is really off putting for some people. I don't see him being able to attract the support Trump has.
    That too. I actually do like him. He's really fucking smart. Plus, he has Cuban blood running through his veins, so you know he's got the goods. And, for those of us who occasionally bristle at Don's behavior, Cruz would conduct himself like a statesman and say 1/1000th of the stupid shit that Trump says.

    He's a little too much evangelical camp for my tastes, but I could get over that.

    His real problem is, as you say, he has an offputting way about him. I can't quite put my finger on it. It's a weird combination of trying too hard, being pedantic and sounding whinny. Or something. There is something that makes him come off insincere, or like he's trying hard to be a persona. He certainly isn't the natural that Trump. In those ways, he lacks anything like Trump's charisma.

    I think a lot of people who love Trump might find Cruz underwhelming.
    On paper I like most of Cruz (position wise), but you nailed it, he is just offputting. Not a charismatic bone in his body. Hell Biden has more charisma and he doesn't even know where he is. It's the nasally voice, used car salesman looks, and general "fake politician vibe" he exudes.
    Cruz is stepping up his pithy twitters game. He’s doing a pretty decent job of transforming into an internet tuff guy.

    I’d share a Four Loco with him at the 7-11 on Aurora in the UDistrict lately.
    Yeah I haven't paid attention to him since Trump made him cry. Perhaps he is remaking himself and version 2.0 will be more to my tastes. Nobody thought Nixon had a future after the Kennedy debate.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,971

    Swaye said:

    SFGbob said:

    89ute said:

    thechatch said:

    The police NUMBER ONE JOB is to protect the community and themselves from violent criminals. You can’t just run from a crime scene with a weapon and expect them to wave to you because your back is turned.

    Fuck off with the rest of the nonsense. I’m tired of this shit. We are at the point where every shooting(not every shooting...just those involving a POC) is being lumped in with Freddie Gray or George Floyd. It’s just not the case, and this is wholly owed to the way liberals and The News package and present their messaging, catering to the social media musings and rants of a bunch of people so ignorantly partisan in their political ideologies and twisted up in SJW fetishes that they look for boogeymen in every single interpersonal interaction they encounter, online or otherwise.

    Let me be clear. I cannot stand the way Donald Trump carries himself and the office of POTUS. I cannot stand the uneven messaging and incendiary divisive tweets. I want a unifier and a leader as a president...not a boorish shit slinger. I cannot stand the disjointed FP from the WH.

    All that said, I’m almost ready to stroke a vote for the guy, just because I am sick of all the other shit from the left even more. My King Co vote is a throwaway anyway, so it doesn’t matter, but the way the MSM serves up news narratives is fucking embarrassing, and I’ve spent the last 2 months watching the neighborhood where I live and work descend into chaos because of a total abdication of responsibility from democratic leadership, at best, and willful provocation, at worst.

    All the Dems had to do was present a unifying message and a centrist candidate to get my vote in November, but instead the party seems to be going all in on race wars and socialism. In 2020 I’ll be voting R across the fucking board, even though I’d probably give Trump a D as POTUS right now.

    - Protect those individual civil rights outlined in the constitution
    - Keep taxes low
    - Keep Employment and GDP High
    - Acknowledge and embrace our geopolitical allies
    - Acknowledge and confront our geopolitical adversaries, and do it from a position of strength
    - Leave the rest of the shit up to the states.

    That is all I ask. That’s all we really fucking need. The rest is just a bunch of window dressing.

    Fuck.

    I think you're going to like what comes after Trump (Ted Cruz). Trump is cutting a new path, a path that was once there but became overgrown with decades of bullshit. The path of of being okay with being proud of your country. It's okay to stand up tho China, it's okay to push an America first agenda. I believe it took a guy like Trump to pull this off. Please and thank you will not wake people up.

    I wonder if Ted has the balls for it. I wonder if he's Tug Skrong enough. He got his balls pushed up into his asshole when Trump made fun of his wife. Fuck, that was a warm up for Trump.

    Will Ted be able to align himself, and appeal, to the hard ass right to help him battle the hard ass left?

    I don't know. Cruz, as I said, likes to come off skrong with preacher-like fire and brimstone. But he whines a lot and gets his dick bent rather easily. Like I said, Trump sent him home crying with a warm up shot.
    I like Cruz but his demeanor is really off putting for some people. I don't see him being able to attract the support Trump has.
    That too. I actually do like him. He's really fucking smart. Plus, he has Cuban blood running through his veins, so you know he's got the goods. And, for those of us who occasionally bristle at Don's behavior, Cruz would conduct himself like a statesman and say 1/1000th of the stupid shit that Trump says.

    He's a little too much evangelical camp for my tastes, but I could get over that.

    His real problem is, as you say, he has an offputting way about him. I can't quite put my finger on it. It's a weird combination of trying too hard, being pedantic and sounding whinny. Or something. There is something that makes him come off insincere, or like he's trying hard to be a persona. He certainly isn't the natural that Trump. In those ways, he lacks anything like Trump's charisma.

    I think a lot of people who love Trump might find Cruz underwhelming.
    On paper I like most of Cruz (position wise), but you nailed it, he is just offputting. Not a charismatic bone in his body. Hell Biden has more charisma and he doesn't even know where he is. It's the nasally voice, used car salesman looks, and general "fake politician vibe" he exudes.
    Cruz is stepping up his pithy twitters game. He’s doing a pretty decent job of transforming into an internet tuff guy.

    I’d share a Four Loco with him at the 7-11 on Aurora in the UDistrict lately.
    I think if Cruz hung out here for like a two-year training camp, he might shape up enough for a run.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,971
    Swaye said:

    SFGbob said:

    89ute said:

    thechatch said:

    The police NUMBER ONE JOB is to protect the community and themselves from violent criminals. You can’t just run from a crime scene with a weapon and expect them to wave to you because your back is turned.

    Fuck off with the rest of the nonsense. I’m tired of this shit. We are at the point where every shooting(not every shooting...just those involving a POC) is being lumped in with Freddie Gray or George Floyd. It’s just not the case, and this is wholly owed to the way liberals and The News package and present their messaging, catering to the social media musings and rants of a bunch of people so ignorantly partisan in their political ideologies and twisted up in SJW fetishes that they look for boogeymen in every single interpersonal interaction they encounter, online or otherwise.

    Let me be clear. I cannot stand the way Donald Trump carries himself and the office of POTUS. I cannot stand the uneven messaging and incendiary divisive tweets. I want a unifier and a leader as a president...not a boorish shit slinger. I cannot stand the disjointed FP from the WH.

    All that said, I’m almost ready to stroke a vote for the guy, just because I am sick of all the other shit from the left even more. My King Co vote is a throwaway anyway, so it doesn’t matter, but the way the MSM serves up news narratives is fucking embarrassing, and I’ve spent the last 2 months watching the neighborhood where I live and work descend into chaos because of a total abdication of responsibility from democratic leadership, at best, and willful provocation, at worst.

    All the Dems had to do was present a unifying message and a centrist candidate to get my vote in November, but instead the party seems to be going all in on race wars and socialism. In 2020 I’ll be voting R across the fucking board, even though I’d probably give Trump a D as POTUS right now.

    - Protect those individual civil rights outlined in the constitution
    - Keep taxes low
    - Keep Employment and GDP High
    - Acknowledge and embrace our geopolitical allies
    - Acknowledge and confront our geopolitical adversaries, and do it from a position of strength
    - Leave the rest of the shit up to the states.

    That is all I ask. That’s all we really fucking need. The rest is just a bunch of window dressing.

    Fuck.

    I think you're going to like what comes after Trump (Ted Cruz). Trump is cutting a new path, a path that was once there but became overgrown with decades of bullshit. The path of of being okay with being proud of your country. It's okay to stand up tho China, it's okay to push an America first agenda. I believe it took a guy like Trump to pull this off. Please and thank you will not wake people up.

    I wonder if Ted has the balls for it. I wonder if he's Tug Skrong enough. He got his balls pushed up into his asshole when Trump made fun of his wife. Fuck, that was a warm up for Trump.

    Will Ted be able to align himself, and appeal, to the hard ass right to help him battle the hard ass left?

    I don't know. Cruz, as I said, likes to come off skrong with preacher-like fire and brimstone. But he whines a lot and gets his dick bent rather easily. Like I said, Trump sent him home crying with a warm up shot.
    I like Cruz but his demeanor is really off putting for some people. I don't see him being able to attract the support Trump has.
    That too. I actually do like him. He's really fucking smart. Plus, he has Cuban blood running through his veins, so you know he's got the goods. And, for those of us who occasionally bristle at Don's behavior, Cruz would conduct himself like a statesman and say 1/1000th of the stupid shit that Trump says.

    He's a little too much evangelical camp for my tastes, but I could get over that.

    His real problem is, as you say, he has an offputting way about him. I can't quite put my finger on it. It's a weird combination of trying too hard, being pedantic and sounding whinny. Or something. There is something that makes him come off insincere, or like he's trying hard to be a persona. He certainly isn't the natural that Trump. In those ways, he lacks anything like Trump's charisma.

    I think a lot of people who love Trump might find Cruz underwhelming.
    On paper I like most of Cruz (position wise), but you nailed it, he is just offputting. Not a charismatic bone in his body. Hell Biden has more charisma and he doesn't even know where he is. It's the nasally voice, used car salesman looks, and general "fake politician vibe" he exudes.
    You hit on another thing: he's that rare Cuban man who lacks exotic and swarthy good looks. Sad. Sad, really.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,890 Standard Supporter
    edited July 2020
    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    SFGbob said:

    89ute said:

    thechatch said:

    The police NUMBER ONE JOB is to protect the community and themselves from violent criminals. You can’t just run from a crime scene with a weapon and expect them to wave to you because your back is turned.

    Fuck off with the rest of the nonsense. I’m tired of this shit. We are at the point where every shooting(not every shooting...just those involving a POC) is being lumped in with Freddie Gray or George Floyd. It’s just not the case, and this is wholly owed to the way liberals and The News package and present their messaging, catering to the social media musings and rants of a bunch of people so ignorantly partisan in their political ideologies and twisted up in SJW fetishes that they look for boogeymen in every single interpersonal interaction they encounter, online or otherwise.

    Let me be clear. I cannot stand the way Donald Trump carries himself and the office of POTUS. I cannot stand the uneven messaging and incendiary divisive tweets. I want a unifier and a leader as a president...not a boorish shit slinger. I cannot stand the disjointed FP from the WH.

    All that said, I’m almost ready to stroke a vote for the guy, just because I am sick of all the other shit from the left even more. My King Co vote is a throwaway anyway, so it doesn’t matter, but the way the MSM serves up news narratives is fucking embarrassing, and I’ve spent the last 2 months watching the neighborhood where I live and work descend into chaos because of a total abdication of responsibility from democratic leadership, at best, and willful provocation, at worst.

    All the Dems had to do was present a unifying message and a centrist candidate to get my vote in November, but instead the party seems to be going all in on race wars and socialism. In 2020 I’ll be voting R across the fucking board, even though I’d probably give Trump a D as POTUS right now.

    - Protect those individual civil rights outlined in the constitution
    - Keep taxes low
    - Keep Employment and GDP High
    - Acknowledge and embrace our geopolitical allies
    - Acknowledge and confront our geopolitical adversaries, and do it from a position of strength
    - Leave the rest of the shit up to the states.

    That is all I ask. That’s all we really fucking need. The rest is just a bunch of window dressing.

    Fuck.

    I think you're going to like what comes after Trump (Ted Cruz). Trump is cutting a new path, a path that was once there but became overgrown with decades of bullshit. The path of of being okay with being proud of your country. It's okay to stand up tho China, it's okay to push an America first agenda. I believe it took a guy like Trump to pull this off. Please and thank you will not wake people up.

    I wonder if Ted has the balls for it. I wonder if he's Tug Skrong enough. He got his balls pushed up into his asshole when Trump made fun of his wife. Fuck, that was a warm up for Trump.

    Will Ted be able to align himself, and appeal, to the hard ass right to help him battle the hard ass left?

    I don't know. Cruz, as I said, likes to come off skrong with preacher-like fire and brimstone. But he whines a lot and gets his dick bent rather easily. Like I said, Trump sent him home crying with a warm up shot.
    I like Cruz but his demeanor is really off putting for some people. I don't see him being able to attract the support Trump has.
    That too. I actually do like him. He's really fucking smart. Plus, he has Cuban blood running through his veins, so you know he's got the goods. And, for those of us who occasionally bristle at Don's behavior, Cruz would conduct himself like a statesman and say 1/1000th of the stupid shit that Trump says.

    He's a little too much evangelical camp for my tastes, but I could get over that.

    His real problem is, as you say, he has an offputting way about him. I can't quite put my finger on it. It's a weird combination of trying too hard, being pedantic and sounding whinny. Or something. There is something that makes him come off insincere, or like he's trying hard to be a persona. He certainly isn't the natural that Trump. In those ways, he lacks anything like Trump's charisma.

    I think a lot of people who love Trump might find Cruz underwhelming.
    On paper I like most of Cruz (position wise), but you nailed it, he is just offputting. Not a charismatic bone in his body. Hell Biden has more charisma and he doesn't even know where he is. It's the nasally voice, used car salesman looks, and general "fake politician vibe" he exudes.
    Cruz is stepping up his pithy twitters game. He’s doing a pretty decent job of transforming into an internet tuff guy.

    I’d share a Four Loco with him at the 7-11 on Aurora in the UDistrict lately.
    Yeah I haven't paid attention to him since Trump made him cry. Perhaps he is remaking himself and version 2.0 will be more to my tastes. Nobody thought Nixon had a future after the Kennedy debate.
    Nobody thought Comey and McCabe would re-enact the Plumbers from CREEP, either.

    Never write-off Tricky Dick, even after Death. He alternatively haunts and inspires, daily.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,944
    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    SFGbob said:

    89ute said:

    thechatch said:

    The police NUMBER ONE JOB is to protect the community and themselves from violent criminals. You can’t just run from a crime scene with a weapon and expect them to wave to you because your back is turned.

    Fuck off with the rest of the nonsense. I’m tired of this shit. We are at the point where every shooting(not every shooting...just those involving a POC) is being lumped in with Freddie Gray or George Floyd. It’s just not the case, and this is wholly owed to the way liberals and The News package and present their messaging, catering to the social media musings and rants of a bunch of people so ignorantly partisan in their political ideologies and twisted up in SJW fetishes that they look for boogeymen in every single interpersonal interaction they encounter, online or otherwise.

    Let me be clear. I cannot stand the way Donald Trump carries himself and the office of POTUS. I cannot stand the uneven messaging and incendiary divisive tweets. I want a unifier and a leader as a president...not a boorish shit slinger. I cannot stand the disjointed FP from the WH.

    All that said, I’m almost ready to stroke a vote for the guy, just because I am sick of all the other shit from the left even more. My King Co vote is a throwaway anyway, so it doesn’t matter, but the way the MSM serves up news narratives is fucking embarrassing, and I’ve spent the last 2 months watching the neighborhood where I live and work descend into chaos because of a total abdication of responsibility from democratic leadership, at best, and willful provocation, at worst.

    All the Dems had to do was present a unifying message and a centrist candidate to get my vote in November, but instead the party seems to be going all in on race wars and socialism. In 2020 I’ll be voting R across the fucking board, even though I’d probably give Trump a D as POTUS right now.

    - Protect those individual civil rights outlined in the constitution
    - Keep taxes low
    - Keep Employment and GDP High
    - Acknowledge and embrace our geopolitical allies
    - Acknowledge and confront our geopolitical adversaries, and do it from a position of strength
    - Leave the rest of the shit up to the states.

    That is all I ask. That’s all we really fucking need. The rest is just a bunch of window dressing.

    Fuck.

    I think you're going to like what comes after Trump (Ted Cruz). Trump is cutting a new path, a path that was once there but became overgrown with decades of bullshit. The path of of being okay with being proud of your country. It's okay to stand up tho China, it's okay to push an America first agenda. I believe it took a guy like Trump to pull this off. Please and thank you will not wake people up.

    I wonder if Ted has the balls for it. I wonder if he's Tug Skrong enough. He got his balls pushed up into his asshole when Trump made fun of his wife. Fuck, that was a warm up for Trump.

    Will Ted be able to align himself, and appeal, to the hard ass right to help him battle the hard ass left?

    I don't know. Cruz, as I said, likes to come off skrong with preacher-like fire and brimstone. But he whines a lot and gets his dick bent rather easily. Like I said, Trump sent him home crying with a warm up shot.
    I like Cruz but his demeanor is really off putting for some people. I don't see him being able to attract the support Trump has.
    That too. I actually do like him. He's really fucking smart. Plus, he has Cuban blood running through his veins, so you know he's got the goods. And, for those of us who occasionally bristle at Don's behavior, Cruz would conduct himself like a statesman and say 1/1000th of the stupid shit that Trump says.

    He's a little too much evangelical camp for my tastes, but I could get over that.

    His real problem is, as you say, he has an offputting way about him. I can't quite put my finger on it. It's a weird combination of trying too hard, being pedantic and sounding whinny. Or something. There is something that makes him come off insincere, or like he's trying hard to be a persona. He certainly isn't the natural that Trump. In those ways, he lacks anything like Trump's charisma.

    I think a lot of people who love Trump might find Cruz underwhelming.
    On paper I like most of Cruz (position wise), but you nailed it, he is just offputting. Not a charismatic bone in his body. Hell Biden has more charisma and he doesn't even know where he is. It's the nasally voice, used car salesman looks, and general "fake politician vibe" he exudes.
    Cruz is stepping up his pithy twitters game. He’s doing a pretty decent job of transforming into an internet tuff guy.

    I’d share a Four Loco with him at the 7-11 on Aurora in the UDistrict lately.
    Yeah I haven't paid attention to him since Trump made him cry. Perhaps he is remaking himself and version 2.0 will be more to my tastes. Nobody thought Nixon had a future after the Kennedy debate.
    It wasn’t the debate nor Presidential race with Kennedy in 1960 that made people think Nixon was washed up. It was losing the California governor’s race to Pat Brown in 1962 that made people think Nixon was finished in politics.

    That was the “You won’t have Nixon to kick around anymore” loss that made people think he was done.

  • thechatchthechatch Member Posts: 5,997

    thechatch said:

    The police NUMBER ONE JOB is to protect the community and themselves from violent criminals. You can’t just run from a crime scene with a weapon and expect them to wave to you because your back is turned.

    Fuck off with the rest of the nonsense. I’m tired of this shit. We are at the point where every shooting(not every shooting...just those involving a POC) is being lumped in with Freddie Gray or George Floyd. It’s just not the case, and this is wholly owed to the way liberals and The News package and present their messaging, catering to the social media musings and rants of a bunch of people so ignorantly partisan in their political ideologies and twisted up in SJW fetishes that they look for boogeymen in every single interpersonal interaction they encounter, online or otherwise.

    Let me be clear. I cannot stand the way Donald Trump carries himself and the office of POTUS. I cannot stand the uneven messaging and incendiary divisive tweets. I want a unifier and a leader as a president...not a boorish shit slinger. I cannot stand the disjointed FP from the WH.

    All that said, I’m almost ready to stroke a vote for the guy, just because I am sick of all the other shit from the left even more. My King Co vote is a throwaway anyway, so it doesn’t matter, but the way the MSM serves up news narratives is fucking embarrassing, and I’ve spent the last 2 months watching the neighborhood where I live and work descend into chaos because of a total abdication of responsibility from democratic leadership, at best, and willful provocation, at worst.

    All the Dems had to do was present a unifying message and a centrist candidate to get my vote in November, but instead the party seems to be going all in on race wars and socialism. In 2020 I’ll be voting R across the fucking board, even though I’d probably give Trump a D as POTUS right now.

    - Protect those individual civil rights outlined in the constitution
    - Keep taxes low
    - Keep Employment and GDP High
    - Acknowledge and embrace our geopolitical allies
    - Acknowledge and confront our geopolitical adversaries, and do it from a position of strength
    - Leave the rest of the shit up to the states.

    That is all I ask. That’s all we really fucking need. The rest is just a bunch of window dressing.

    Fuck.

    You capture my sentiments exactly. Are you Cuban by chance?
    Scotts-German
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,853
    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    SFGbob said:

    89ute said:

    thechatch said:

    The police NUMBER ONE JOB is to protect the community and themselves from violent criminals. You can’t just run from a crime scene with a weapon and expect them to wave to you because your back is turned.

    Fuck off with the rest of the nonsense. I’m tired of this shit. We are at the point where every shooting(not every shooting...just those involving a POC) is being lumped in with Freddie Gray or George Floyd. It’s just not the case, and this is wholly owed to the way liberals and The News package and present their messaging, catering to the social media musings and rants of a bunch of people so ignorantly partisan in their political ideologies and twisted up in SJW fetishes that they look for boogeymen in every single interpersonal interaction they encounter, online or otherwise.

    Let me be clear. I cannot stand the way Donald Trump carries himself and the office of POTUS. I cannot stand the uneven messaging and incendiary divisive tweets. I want a unifier and a leader as a president...not a boorish shit slinger. I cannot stand the disjointed FP from the WH.

    All that said, I’m almost ready to stroke a vote for the guy, just because I am sick of all the other shit from the left even more. My King Co vote is a throwaway anyway, so it doesn’t matter, but the way the MSM serves up news narratives is fucking embarrassing, and I’ve spent the last 2 months watching the neighborhood where I live and work descend into chaos because of a total abdication of responsibility from democratic leadership, at best, and willful provocation, at worst.

    All the Dems had to do was present a unifying message and a centrist candidate to get my vote in November, but instead the party seems to be going all in on race wars and socialism. In 2020 I’ll be voting R across the fucking board, even though I’d probably give Trump a D as POTUS right now.

    - Protect those individual civil rights outlined in the constitution
    - Keep taxes low
    - Keep Employment and GDP High
    - Acknowledge and embrace our geopolitical allies
    - Acknowledge and confront our geopolitical adversaries, and do it from a position of strength
    - Leave the rest of the shit up to the states.

    That is all I ask. That’s all we really fucking need. The rest is just a bunch of window dressing.

    Fuck.

    I think you're going to like what comes after Trump (Ted Cruz). Trump is cutting a new path, a path that was once there but became overgrown with decades of bullshit. The path of of being okay with being proud of your country. It's okay to stand up tho China, it's okay to push an America first agenda. I believe it took a guy like Trump to pull this off. Please and thank you will not wake people up.

    I wonder if Ted has the balls for it. I wonder if he's Tug Skrong enough. He got his balls pushed up into his asshole when Trump made fun of his wife. Fuck, that was a warm up for Trump.

    Will Ted be able to align himself, and appeal, to the hard ass right to help him battle the hard ass left?

    I don't know. Cruz, as I said, likes to come off skrong with preacher-like fire and brimstone. But he whines a lot and gets his dick bent rather easily. Like I said, Trump sent him home crying with a warm up shot.
    I like Cruz but his demeanor is really off putting for some people. I don't see him being able to attract the support Trump has.
    That too. I actually do like him. He's really fucking smart. Plus, he has Cuban blood running through his veins, so you know he's got the goods. And, for those of us who occasionally bristle at Don's behavior, Cruz would conduct himself like a statesman and say 1/1000th of the stupid shit that Trump says.

    He's a little too much evangelical camp for my tastes, but I could get over that.

    His real problem is, as you say, he has an offputting way about him. I can't quite put my finger on it. It's a weird combination of trying too hard, being pedantic and sounding whinny. Or something. There is something that makes him come off insincere, or like he's trying hard to be a persona. He certainly isn't the natural that Trump. In those ways, he lacks anything like Trump's charisma.

    I think a lot of people who love Trump might find Cruz underwhelming.
    On paper I like most of Cruz (position wise), but you nailed it, he is just offputting. Not a charismatic bone in his body. Hell Biden has more charisma and he doesn't even know where he is. It's the nasally voice, used car salesman looks, and general "fake politician vibe" he exudes.
    Cruz is stepping up his pithy twitters game. He’s doing a pretty decent job of transforming into an internet tuff guy.

    I’d share a Four Loco with him at the 7-11 on Aurora in the UDistrict lately.
    Yeah I haven't paid attention to him since Trump made him cry. Perhaps he is remaking himself and version 2.0 will be more to my tastes. Nobody thought Nixon had a future after the Kennedy debate.
    He grew a beard and decided to shit on the easy target libs.

    Not a terrible political choice
  • thechatchthechatch Member Posts: 5,997
    Gimme a Scott/Crenshaw ticket in 2024
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