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Anyone following this Bernardo Palacios-Carbajal police shooting in Utah?

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  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,156 Standard Supporter
    alumni94 said:

    SFGbob said:

    They are now rioting in Utah of all places because aguy who had a gun and had just engaged in a armed robbery was running away from the police and refusing to drop his weapon. If you watch the video the piece of shit should have been shot much earlier. They yell at him to drop his weapon numerous times.

    Are we now at the point that armed criminals can't be shot even when they are refusing to drop their weapons? Who the fuck would ever want to be a cop?

    https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/07/09/salt-lake-county/

    I agree with you, but 34 rounds? Seems excessive.
    I always find the "you killed him too much" complaint the funniest!
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,971
    Sledog said:

    alumni94 said:

    SFGbob said:

    They are now rioting in Utah of all places because aguy who had a gun and had just engaged in a armed robbery was running away from the police and refusing to drop his weapon. If you watch the video the piece of shit should have been shot much earlier. They yell at him to drop his weapon numerous times.

    Are we now at the point that armed criminals can't be shot even when they are refusing to drop their weapons? Who the fuck would ever want to be a cop?

    https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/07/09/salt-lake-county/

    I agree with you, but 34 rounds? Seems excessive.
    I always find the "you killed him too much" complaint the funniest!
    I was waiting for this.
  • thechatchthechatch Member Posts: 5,997
    So are we at the point where if a guy commits armed robbery but then runs, the cops are just supposed to say, “well...he’s running with a gun but his back is pointed towards us now, so I guess we just have to let him go.”

    Fuck everything.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,156 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    alumni94 said:

    SFGbob said:

    They are now rioting in Utah of all places because aguy who had a gun and had just engaged in a armed robbery was running away from the police and refusing to drop his weapon. If you watch the video the piece of shit should have been shot much earlier. They yell at him to drop his weapon numerous times.

    Are we now at the point that armed criminals can't be shot even when they are refusing to drop their weapons? Who the fuck would ever want to be a cop?

    https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/07/09/salt-lake-county/

    I agree with you, but 34 rounds? Seems excessive.
    I always find the "you killed him too much" complaint the funniest!
    I was waiting for this.
    Glad I could help!
  • alumni94alumni94 Member Posts: 4,858

    alumni94 said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    alumni94 said:

    SFGbob said:

    They are now rioting in Utah of all places because aguy who had a gun and had just engaged in a armed robbery was running away from the police and refusing to drop his weapon. If you watch the video the piece of shit should have been shot much earlier. They yell at him to drop his weapon numerous times.

    Are we now at the point that armed criminals can't be shot even when they are refusing to drop their weapons? Who the fuck would ever want to be a cop?

    https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/07/09/salt-lake-county/

    I agree with you, but 34 rounds? Seems excessive.
    You keep shooting until the target stops moving. They shouldn't have to risk their lives just because the left might believe the number of rounds shot might be excessive. You commit an armed robbery and then run away from the cops with a gun, refuse to comply with the repeated requests to drop your weapon (intentionally, because he does drop his weapon a couple of times unintentionally, and then proceeds to pick it back up) bad things should happen to you.
    Generally agree, but still seems like a lot of lead. If for no other reason, stop shooting when the perp is a pile of red goo and save some bullets for the budget.
    What's the proper number of rounds that should be fired in this situation?
    If you are making contact, a clip at most. So 10 or less.
    Clip held 17 rounds. Two empties clips, 34 rounds. Math
    Yes, sorry I'm in California, so ten rounds.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 104,532 Founders Club
    I'm just saying in the world we live in it's an issue

    But I'm not the one in that situation with adrenaline flowing and a dangerous perp

  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,944
    edited July 2020

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    alumni94 said:

    SFGbob said:

    They are now rioting in Utah of all places because aguy who had a gun and had just engaged in a armed robbery was running away from the police and refusing to drop his weapon. If you watch the video the piece of shit should have been shot much earlier. They yell at him to drop his weapon numerous times.

    Are we now at the point that armed criminals can't be shot even when they are refusing to drop their weapons? Who the fuck would ever want to be a cop?

    https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/07/09/salt-lake-county/

    I agree with you, but 34 rounds? Seems excessive.
    You keep shooting until the target stops moving. They shouldn't have to risk their lives just because the left might believe the number of rounds shot might be excessive. You commit an armed robbery and then run away from the cops with a gun, refuse to comply with the repeated requests to drop your weapon (intentionally, because he does drop his weapon a couple of times unintentionally, and then proceeds to pick it back up) bad things should happen to you.
    Generally agree, but still seems like a lot of lead. If for no other reason, stop shooting when the perp is a pile of red goo and save some bullets for the budget.
    What's the proper number of rounds that should be fired in this situation?
    Enough to make him dead, which shouldn't require 34 unless the cop is a shitty shot. Maybe that's the issue.

    I'm thinking, like, something south of 15? Sound reasonable?
    Each cop shot two more rounds than you believe is "reasonable." I guess in all the excitement, they kind of lost track of the reasonable number of shots they should have been firing.

    34 rounds and they only hit him 13 to 15 times and of those how many were fatal?
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,156 Standard Supporter
    Training says "shoot them until they stop doing whatever it was they were doing that caused you to shoot them"

    Preferably if 2 to the upper chest doesn't put them down shoot them in the head. Could be wearing body armor.

  • 89ute89ute Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,477 Swaye's Wigwam

    Hurts @89ute by the way

    I liked the cops in this one all along, rather easily.

    A group 200 protested. As soon as a window was broken the billy clubs came out and the protest was put to an end.

    Red states matter.

    https://www.ksl.com/article/50000112/protests-in-salt-lake-city-follow-da-ruling-on-palacios-shooting-governor-declares-emergency
  • 89ute89ute Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,477 Swaye's Wigwam

    I didn't know that any of my Latino bros lived in Utah. Da fuck are they doing there in the first place?

    The same way we got our D-Line, missionaries bringing souls unto Christ.
  • 89ute89ute Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,477 Swaye's Wigwam
    thechatch said:

    The police NUMBER ONE JOB is to protect the community and themselves from violent criminals. You can’t just run from a crime scene with a weapon and expect them to wave to you because your back is turned.

    Fuck off with the rest of the nonsense. I’m tired of this shit. We are at the point where every shooting(not every shooting...just those involving a POC) is being lumped in with Freddie Gray or George Floyd. It’s just not the case, and this is wholly owed to the way liberals and The News package and present their messaging, catering to the social media musings and rants of a bunch of people so ignorantly partisan in their political ideologies and twisted up in SJW fetishes that they look for boogeymen in every single interpersonal interaction they encounter, online or otherwise.

    Let me be clear. I cannot stand the way Donald Trump carries himself and the office of POTUS. I cannot stand the uneven messaging and incendiary divisive tweets. I want a unifier and a leader as a president...not a boorish shit slinger. I cannot stand the disjointed FP from the WH.

    All that said, I’m almost ready to stroke a vote for the guy, just because I am sick of all the other shit from the left even more. My King Co vote is a throwaway anyway, so it doesn’t matter, but the way the MSM serves up news narratives is fucking embarrassing, and I’ve spent the last 2 months watching the neighborhood where I live and work descend into chaos because of a total abdication of responsibility from democratic leadership, at best, and willful provocation, at worst.

    All the Dems had to do was present a unifying message and a centrist candidate to get my vote in November, but instead the party seems to be going all in on race wars and socialism. In 2020 I’ll be voting R across the fucking board, even though I’d probably give Trump a D as POTUS right now.

    - Protect those individual civil rights outlined in the constitution
    - Keep taxes low
    - Keep Employment and GDP High
    - Acknowledge and embrace our geopolitical allies
    - Acknowledge and confront our geopolitical adversaries, and do it from a position of strength
    - Leave the rest of the shit up to the states.

    That is all I ask. That’s all we really fucking need. The rest is just a bunch of window dressing.

    Fuck.

    I think you're going to like what comes after Trump (Ted Cruz). Trump is cutting a new path, a path that was once there but became overgrown with decades of bullshit. The path of of being okay with being proud of your country. It's okay to stand up tho China, it's okay to push an America first agenda. I believe it took a guy like Trump to pull this off. Please and thank you will not wake people up.

  • CFetters_Nacho_LoverCFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 29,933 Founders Club
    thechatch said:

    The police NUMBER ONE JOB is to protect the community and themselves from violent criminals. You can’t just run from a crime scene with a weapon and expect them to wave to you because your back is turned.

    Fuck off with the rest of the nonsense. I’m tired of this shit. We are at the point where every shooting(not every shooting...just those involving a POC) is being lumped in with Freddie Gray or George Floyd. It’s just not the case, and this is wholly owed to the way liberals and The News package and present their messaging, catering to the social media musings and rants of a bunch of people so ignorantly partisan in their political ideologies and twisted up in SJW fetishes that they look for boogeymen in every single interpersonal interaction they encounter, online or otherwise.

    Let me be clear. I cannot stand the way Donald Trump carries himself and the office of POTUS. I cannot stand the uneven messaging and incendiary divisive tweets. I want a unifier and a leader as a president...not a boorish shit slinger. I cannot stand the disjointed FP from the WH.

    All that said, I’m almost ready to stroke a vote for the guy, just because I am sick of all the other shit from the left even more. My King Co vote is a throwaway anyway, so it doesn’t matter, but the way the MSM serves up news narratives is fucking embarrassing, and I’ve spent the last 2 months watching the neighborhood where I live and work descend into chaos because of a total abdication of responsibility from democratic leadership, at best, and willful provocation, at worst.

    All the Dems had to do was present a unifying message and a centrist candidate to get my vote in November, but instead the party seems to be going all in on race wars and socialism. In 2020 I’ll be voting R across the fucking board, even though I’d probably give Trump a D as POTUS right now.

    - Protect those individual civil rights outlined in the constitution
    - Keep taxes low
    - Keep Employment and GDP High
    - Acknowledge and embrace our geopolitical allies
    - Acknowledge and confront our geopolitical adversaries, and do it from a position of strength
    - Leave the rest of the shit up to the states.

    That is all I ask. That’s all we really fucking need. The rest is just a bunch of window dressing.

    Fuck.

    Racist.
  • thechatchthechatch Member Posts: 5,997
    It’s what some people seem to want to call a magazine...
  • BangaRangBangaRang Member Posts: 248
    With that scene, I'd have gone north of 45, fuck that armed criminal.


    alumni94 said:

    SFGbob said:

    They are now rioting in Utah of all places because aguy who had a gun and had just engaged in a armed robbery was running away from the police and refusing to drop his weapon. If you watch the video the piece of shit should have been shot much earlier. They yell at him to drop his weapon numerous times.

    Are we now at the point that armed criminals can't be shot even when they are refusing to drop their weapons? Who the fuck would ever want to be a cop?

    https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/07/09/salt-lake-county/

    I agree with you, but 34 rounds? Seems excessive.
    Bonnie and Clyde would like a word


    34 does sound high
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    alumni94 said:

    SFGbob said:

    They are now rioting in Utah of all places because aguy who had a gun and had just engaged in a armed robbery was running away from the police and refusing to drop his weapon. If you watch the video the piece of shit should have been shot much earlier. They yell at him to drop his weapon numerous times.

    Are we now at the point that armed criminals can't be shot even when they are refusing to drop their weapons? Who the fuck would ever want to be a cop?

    https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/07/09/salt-lake-county/

    I agree with you, but 34 rounds? Seems excessive.
    You keep shooting until the target stops moving. They shouldn't have to risk their lives just because the left might believe the number of rounds shot might be excessive. You commit an armed robbery and then run away from the cops with a gun, refuse to comply with the repeated requests to drop your weapon (intentionally, because he does drop his weapon a couple of times unintentionally, and then proceeds to pick it back up) bad things should happen to you.
    Generally agree, but still seems like a lot of lead. If for no other reason, stop shooting when the perp is a pile of red goo and save some bullets for the budget.
    What's the proper number of rounds that should be fired in this situation?
    The o/u is 5
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,944

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    alumni94 said:

    SFGbob said:

    They are now rioting in Utah of all places because aguy who had a gun and had just engaged in a armed robbery was running away from the police and refusing to drop his weapon. If you watch the video the piece of shit should have been shot much earlier. They yell at him to drop his weapon numerous times.

    Are we now at the point that armed criminals can't be shot even when they are refusing to drop their weapons? Who the fuck would ever want to be a cop?

    https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/07/09/salt-lake-county/

    I agree with you, but 34 rounds? Seems excessive.
    You keep shooting until the target stops moving. They shouldn't have to risk their lives just because the left might believe the number of rounds shot might be excessive. You commit an armed robbery and then run away from the cops with a gun, refuse to comply with the repeated requests to drop your weapon (intentionally, because he does drop his weapon a couple of times unintentionally, and then proceeds to pick it back up) bad things should happen to you.
    Generally agree, but still seems like a lot of lead. If for no other reason, stop shooting when the perp is a pile of red goo and save some bullets for the budget.
    What's the proper number of rounds that should be fired in this situation?
    The o/u is 5
    5 rounds between the two cops? So they should have discussed it before hand. "I'll shoot him 3 times, you shoot him twice. Wouldn't want to appear unreasonable with this shooting."
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,156 Standard Supporter

    I didn't know that any of my Latino bros lived in Utah. Da fuck are they doing there in the first place?

    They’ve been there for 30 years. I used to clear ski runs and dig ditches with illegal Messicans in Utah @creepycoug
    But no one else wanted those jobs!
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