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Carville: "Significant Chance" Trump Drops Out, "Doesn't Make Much Sense For Him To Run"

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  • incremetal_progress
    incremetal_progress Member Posts: 358
    edited July 2020

    This shit appeals to nobody that wasn't already motivated to vote for Trump already. In fact it actively motivates people to vote against him.



    Let me think about what I care about more.

    1. The seizure of my property and further restrictions placed on my 1a and 2a rights.

    2. Some mean tweets reacting to fs pc mob culture.

    This is what people on the Left can't seem to grasp. There's bigger fish at stake than civilized rhetoric and political correctness.
    anyone who isn't super plugged in politically is thinking about the economy, race, covid, etc. Most of them haven't a clue what you are talking about here, because it's nonsense. And it's especially dumb because no one associates Joe frieking Biden, the senator from MBNA basically a moderate republican, as someone who would do any of those things.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,052

    This shit appeals to nobody that wasn't already motivated to vote for Trump already. In fact it actively motivates people to vote against him.



    Wrong It's the end of political correctness. Trump knows the middle of the bell curve is up to their eyeballs with the bullshit. He knows it infuriates the leftists and causes them to do more stupid shit in AARGH MEAN ORANGE MAN mode - which just pushes the leftists farther away from the type of sane, rational people we want in charge of our country.

    Dementia Joe is playing right into it by not condemning the crazies.

  • incremetal_progress
    incremetal_progress Member Posts: 358
    The "middle of the bell curve," aka your average American, is worried about the economy, COVID and race relations. They are not worried about the fucking Redskins changing their names.

    And the second tweet is pretty disgusting. That looked like a fucking noose and many others that also saw it felt that way too. Maybe it was there since last fall, but to single out the person of color and demand he apologize is racism. The "middle of the bell curve" is not demanding an apology from Bubba Wallace right now.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,786 Swaye's Wigwam
    I have 4 kids and they unfortunately are the youth of America and its future politics.

    Oldest is a flaming liberal and not sure how she got that way. Portland St?
    Second is very sympathetic to the leftist cause as is her hubby. Educ: Arizona
    Third: I thought was a little more level headed but is moving left and he told me Trumps tweeting is affecting him. He be an Engineer in the Ferry System
    Fourth: Conservative and a CPA - but starting to give up on Trump's rhetoric, attack mode tweets.

    Our best friends are die-hard leftists. He was a big union guy and his other half kind of buckled under with his constant ranting - MSNBC is their guide.

    So that is what I see happening around my circle and it is scary.
    Think I will go get a beer.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,052
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,223 Standard Supporter

    The "middle of the bell curve," aka your average American, is worried about the economy, COVID and race relations. They are not worried about the fucking Redskins changing their names.

    And the second tweet is pretty disgusting. That looked like a fucking noose and many others that also saw it felt that way too. Maybe it was there since last fall, but to single out the person of color and demand he apologize is racism. The "middle of the bell curve" is not demanding an apology from Bubba Wallace right now.

    IT LOOKED LIKE A NOOSE!!!!

    Yeah to anyone who’s never walked in and out of a barn before.

    GMAFB
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    edited July 2020
    Tequilla said:

    I thought the 2016 election was difficult to handicap

    That was easy compared to 2020

    No one know nothing, including us.

    By conventional wisdom in conventional times, Trump is done, dead & buried. His greatest strength, the economy, is not in the shitter, it's all way out the pipe and fouling the waters off Victoria. Furthermore, before things went to hell, Trump had the failed impeachment fiasco to play. Now, I don't think anyone undecided remembers now or cares.

    But holy shit, these are no conventional times. People are anxious and scared. That's not unprecedented, except now there's no tangible or external enemy. The enemy is us. It's all around. People are scared of daily life. The grocery store, crowds, the police, the neighbors, what's coming the mail, saying the wrong thing at the wrong time to the wrong people, making a wrong turn on a street. On and on. Fear is everywhere, and it's compounded by the fear that most didn't give a second thought to these things in January. Real or imagined, it's existential fear of the banal.

    Trump doesn't have a good target to direct that fear against. He is, however, a great singular focus for Dems.

    In mid-April, weº wondered if the electoral wild card might be some semblance of an economic light switch, and the 'Vid would be lost in the famously short American memory. That ain't happening.

    However, the Intifada could be the next wildcard, the longer it plays out. I think the mid-to-far Left showed their hand too early. The George Floyd, police brutality, criminal justice reform message that I think a really large number of people support was lost within a week. Or as soon as #DefundThePolice was first uttered. If Dems think the majority of Americans like what unrolled once Defund became the narrative, they're fucking crazy. Furthermore, I think there is a significant number of people who have the implicit understanding that the worst of what happened occurred in Dark Blue jurisdictions. Then there's a big chunk of non-MAGA diehards who are pretty pissed about the ongoing national self-flagellation, separate from some fealty to Trump. They're just keeping their mouths shut.

    Hang on to your ass Nov. 4. It's going to be ugly no matter who wins.
  • incremetal_progress
    incremetal_progress Member Posts: 358
    thechatch said:

    The "middle of the bell curve," aka your average American, is worried about the economy, COVID and race relations. They are not worried about the fucking Redskins changing their names.

    And the second tweet is pretty disgusting. That looked like a fucking noose and many others that also saw it felt that way too. Maybe it was there since last fall, but to single out the person of color and demand he apologize is racism. The "middle of the bell curve" is not demanding an apology from Bubba Wallace right now.

    IT LOOKED LIKE A NOOSE!!!!

    Yeah to anyone who’s never walked in and out of a barn before.

    GMAFB
    it looked like a noose to a lot of the white crew members and officials. Why isn't Trump asking for them to apologize?
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,223 Standard Supporter

    thechatch said:

    The "middle of the bell curve," aka your average American, is worried about the economy, COVID and race relations. They are not worried about the fucking Redskins changing their names.

    And the second tweet is pretty disgusting. That looked like a fucking noose and many others that also saw it felt that way too. Maybe it was there since last fall, but to single out the person of color and demand he apologize is racism. The "middle of the bell curve" is not demanding an apology from Bubba Wallace right now.

    IT LOOKED LIKE A NOOSE!!!!

    Yeah to anyone who’s never walked in and out of a barn before.

    GMAFB
    it looked like a noose to a lot of the white crew members and officials. Why isn't Trump asking for them to apologize?
    Probably because they didn’t go on National TV, presenting their case to Good Morning America....but who the fuck knows.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    edited July 2020

    thechatch said:

    The "middle of the bell curve," aka your average American, is worried about the economy, COVID and race relations. They are not worried about the fucking Redskins changing their names.

    And the second tweet is pretty disgusting. That looked like a fucking noose and many others that also saw it felt that way too. Maybe it was there since last fall, but to single out the person of color and demand he apologize is racism. The "middle of the bell curve" is not demanding an apology from Bubba Wallace right now.

    IT LOOKED LIKE A NOOSE!!!!

    Yeah to anyone who’s never walked in and out of a barn before.

    GMAFB
    it looked like a noose to a lot of the white crew members and officials. Why isn't Trump asking for them to apologize?
    Because nobody knows their names. Duh.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,353 Founders Club
    If Trump stays healthy, he is going to win, rather easily. If he does debate Biden, it will be record-shattering TV ratings and Trump's chance to speak common sense to the millions who despise him largely due to his demonic portrayal by the mainstream media. He will soften at least 10-20% of them.
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,965 Standard Supporter
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Goduckies said:

    Someone has had too much tequilla

    Really?

    I think it's a complete joke that Biden is the Democratic nominee ... dude can't complete a sentence without tripping over himself.

    Trump's losing right now to that fool pretty significantly.

    In 2016, I felt an undercurrent of people discrediting that Trump could win.

    In 2020, I see Trump as nuclear as an option for better or worse ... if he gets re-elected it's going to be an ugly 4 years for this country.

    I'd be jumping up and down to have 2 different candidates right now ...

    Can't wait to see who Biden selects as his VP because I expect that whoever that is will serve over 1/2 of Biden's initial term.
    One word: Debates
    Doesn't matter ... for large portions of the country people are done with Trump regardless of what he says
    And they're the same dipshits who voted for Killary. You continue to believe those polls. The rest of those with some sanity will continue to believe polls are something to keep your daughter off.
    I don’t really pay attention to polls.

    I pay attention to what goes on around me and people that I know from around the country.

    It’s possible that Trump wins and wins big because Biden is such a bad candidate ... even worse than Hillary.

    It’s also very possible that Trump is such a bad candidate that people will vote for everybody but him.

    The extremes are polarized at this point. What nobody has a great grasp is how the middle reacts.
    Here's the thing, you can't admit to liking trump without getting attacked. There is a huge hidden vote here. Will be even more this time imo.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,196
    edited July 2020
    America is going to vote to give the radical left another giant middle finger.

    Everything the left has done has aliented the center since 2016. Russia, Kavanaugh, peach mints, pee dossiers....it's all bullshit and no one sane cares or believes the lies anymore.

    Ive been saying it for months...Trump is going to eviscerate Biden. Will the Tug antifa crew show up to eat their crow???
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    edited July 2020

    I've voted Dem as many times as I've voted GOP. The spying, the abuse of the impeachment system, being owned by the CCP, shifting towards socialism and away from free markets, I'm done with the Dems as they currently exist.

    As usual South Park was way ahead of the curve on this.

    I fucking hate the Republicans.









    Butt I hate the fucking Democrats even more.

    #SMOD2020
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,834 Founders Club
    I didn't leave the Democrats they left me

    Some right wing hate monger said that decades ago
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,786 Swaye's Wigwam

    If Trump stays healthy, he is going to win, rather easily. If he does debate Biden, it will be record-shattering TV ratings and Trump's chance to speak common sense to the millions who despise him largely due to his demonic portrayal by the mainstream media. He will soften at least 10-20% of them.

    that right there is the biggest question - will Trump control himself?
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    LebamDawg said:

    If Trump stays healthy, he is going to win, rather easily. If he does debate Biden, it will be record-shattering TV ratings and Trump's chance to speak common sense to the millions who despise him largely due to his demonic portrayal by the mainstream media. He will soften at least 10-20% of them.

    that right there is the biggest question - will Trump control himself?

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,834 Founders Club
    Not taking advice is why Trump is president now
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,834 Founders Club
    https://foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-left-lead-country-hates


    One of the great unsolved mysteries of the past four years is why certain types of people with certain types of jobs hate Donald Trump so much, really hate him, are obsessed over him.

    Think about him when they wake up in the morning. Would hurt him if they could. Why the fixation?

    It has nothing to do with the reasons that normal people sometimes get annoyed with Trump -- the bragging, the short attention span, the rants on Twitter.
    None of that justifies hatred or obsession. Plenty of politicians have unappealing personal qualities.

    Teddy Kennedy killed a woman and he is still a hero to the Democratic Party.

    No, the reason the ruling class despises Donald Trump is because they can't control him. Trump throws the bit. He refuses to mouth their lyrics. He will not obey.

    At any moment, Donald Trump is liable to come out with something that you're absolutely not allowed to say. Borders make countries, for example. China is our enemy. Whoopi Goldberg isn't that funny.

    All of it undeniably true, and that's the point and the problem.

    Trump's words hang in the air for all to see and to assess. And they are therefore a massive threat to people whose livelihoods depend upon fraud and lying.

    Trump is the most dangerous to his enemies when he tells the truth. In fact, there are enemies precisely because sometimes he does tell the truth and he did the other day.

    On Friday, the president gave a speech at Mount Rushmore, he spoke eloquently about the BLM riots, and what they mean for the country. Here's part of it.

    **Make no mistake, this leftwing Cultural Revolution is designed to overthrow the American Revolution.

    In so doing, they would destroy the very civilization that rescued billions from poverty, disease, violence and hunger, and that lifted humanity to new heights of achievement, discovery and progress.

    To make this possible, they are determined to tear down every statue, symbol and memory of our national heritage.


    Tucker shouldn't spill the beans like this but fortunately the left is too arrogant and stupid to get it yet
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,196

    Not taking advice is why Trump is president now

    He never would have gotten in the top 10 in the 2016 primaries if he listened to the advice people give him now
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,727 Standard Supporter

    https://foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-left-lead-country-hates


    One of the great unsolved mysteries of the past four years is why certain types of people with certain types of jobs hate Donald Trump so much, really hate him, are obsessed over him.

    Think about him when they wake up in the morning. Would hurt him if they could. Why the fixation?

    It has nothing to do with the reasons that normal people sometimes get annoyed with Trump -- the bragging, the short attention span, the rants on Twitter.
    None of that justifies hatred or obsession. Plenty of politicians have unappealing personal qualities.

    Teddy Kennedy killed a woman and he is still a hero to the Democratic Party.

    No, the reason the ruling class despises Donald Trump is because they can't control him. Trump throws the bit. He refuses to mouth their lyrics. He will not obey.

    At any moment, Donald Trump is liable to come out with something that you're absolutely not allowed to say. Borders make countries, for example. China is our enemy. Whoopi Goldberg isn't that funny.

    All of it undeniably true, and that's the point and the problem.

    Trump's words hang in the air for all to see and to assess. And they are therefore a massive threat to people whose livelihoods depend upon fraud and lying.

    Trump is the most dangerous to his enemies when he tells the truth. In fact, there are enemies precisely because sometimes he does tell the truth and he did the other day.

    On Friday, the president gave a speech at Mount Rushmore, he spoke eloquently about the BLM riots, and what they mean for the country. Here's part of it.

    **Make no mistake, this leftwing Cultural Revolution is designed to overthrow the American Revolution.

    In so doing, they would destroy the very civilization that rescued billions from poverty, disease, violence and hunger, and that lifted humanity to new heights of achievement, discovery and progress.

    To make this possible, they are determined to tear down every statue, symbol and memory of our national heritage.


    Tucker shouldn't spill the beans like this but fortunately the left is too arrogant and stupid to get it yet

    Like I said, last nights show was exceptional! Plus this outstanding segment:

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/jason-whitlock-nfl-black-national-anthem

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,834 Founders Club

    Not taking advice is why Trump is president now

    He never would have gotten in the top 10 in the 2016 primaries if he listened to the advice people give him now
    He was done when he made his announcement in July of 2015 according to experts

    And they just keep getting it wrong. Americans have never cared much for PC culture and politicians who understand that tend to do well

    Squishes like Mitt and Jeb don't.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,834 Founders Club


    Follow the thread

    This is Seattle tax dollars at work

    Helps Trump IMO
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter



    Follow the thread

    This is Seattle tax dollars at work

    Helps Trump IMO
    What a complete Crock of Shit.

    Why do so many white people capitulate to this social suicide? Because they're dumb? Weak? Or just Afraid?

    Substitute any other group such as "blacks" or "Jews" for "White" throughout the materials, and you'd be labeled a racist and cancelled immediately.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839



    Follow the thread

    This is Seattle tax dollars at work

    Helps Trump IMO
    Amazing how the HH leftists and expat leftists can even see through this bullshit.

    Seattle is so fucking fucked.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    Whites. Blacks. Racism. Identity Groups. Blah, blah, blah.

    Remember when it was bad to criticize Obama's "guilt by association" because he hung out with former Weatherman Bill Ayers?

    When did we decide guilt by association, i.e., "whiteness," was okay again? Guess I didn't get the memo.