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Most Sark players?

dnc
dnc Member Posts: 56,839
edited December 2013 in Hardcore Husky Board
Which player most symbolizes the Sark era to you? Here's a few I can think of:

Most Sark players? 43 votes

Jake Locker - Overrated, not that bright, terribly inconsistent. Just a couple manboobs and trips to Joey's from being Sark.
9%
Mad_Son[Deleted User]biak1allpurpleallgold 4 votes
Kasen Williams - Sizzle > Steak.
4%
DoogieMcDoogersonDardanus 2 votes
Myles Jack - We didn't want local players anyway.
9%
RoadDawg55UWhuskytskeetNeGgaPlEaSeBlowItUp 4 votes
Josh Shirley - Looked amazing as a frosh. Not even sure he's still on the team by his junior year.
18%
SweatpantsGeneralGlobalPostGameOrangeSlicesPurpleBazeHomebrew_DawgdncdoogsinparadiseWildcatHB 8 votes
James Atoe - First round LT
11%
IrishDawg22RaccoonHarrySpoonieLuvuw2010Doogles 5 votes
Shane Brostek - Huge hype, forced to play too soon thanks to lack of emphasis on OL, moved out of position, never heard from again
11%
HouhuskychrisvashondhdawgGladstonedroggins 5 votes
Field
34%
section8Fire_Marshall_BilltopdawgncwhlinderDawgtona[Deleted User]PurpleJ79smoothdawgTheHBThe_UndertakerDoubleJDawgdeath2ducks[Deleted User]HuskyHalfBrainPurpleTickler 15 votes
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  • IrishDawg22
    IrishDawg22 Member Posts: 2,754
    James Atoe - First round LT
    If you don't vote for 1 of the Oline guys you need to SSBIAFF.
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  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    edited December 2013
    Shane Brostek - Huge hype, forced to play too soon thanks to lack of emphasis on OL, moved out of position, never heard from again
    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.
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  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Shane Brostek - Huge hype, forced to play too soon thanks to lack of emphasis on OL, moved out of position, never heard from again
    I was close to picking shirley but the brostek being on the oline was the ultimate trump card
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Josh Shirley - Looked amazing as a frosh. Not even sure he's still on the team by his junior year.
    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    I love Jack, but he is exhibit A for Sark sacrificing a kid and the team for his own ego. Taking away Locker's ability to run was the antithesis of Rick coming in and running the option with Tui.

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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Jake Locker - Overrated, not that bright, terribly inconsistent. Just a couple manboobs and trips to Joey's from being Sark.
    It's Jack because him and Sark mirror each other. Massively overrated because of specific attributes. Jack - arm strength and speed. Sark- being the OC at USC and bringing UW "back" from 0-12. Treated like gods by the doogs. Lockner is still referred to as a legend.

    All sizzle, no steak. Both of them.
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  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Shane Brostek - Huge hype, forced to play too soon thanks to lack of emphasis on OL, moved out of position, never heard from again
    BTW there's a good option for the field in Sione Potoa'e representing the complete lack of player development under sark
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  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    dnc said:

    Which player most symbolizes the Sark era to you? Here's a few I can think of:

    your bullshit about Jake shows what an ass and newbie doogie you are. Jake was a newer version of Tui. Class act, warrior, man of sacrifice, man of heart, gave all for UW. Dnc, shame on you

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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Josh Shirley - Looked amazing as a frosh. Not even sure he's still on the team by his junior year.
    puppylove_sugarsteel said:

    dnc said:

    Which player most symbolizes the Sark era to you? Here's a few I can think of:

    your bullshit about Jake shows what an ass and newbie doogie you are. Jake was a newer version of Tui. Class act, warrior, man of sacrifice, man of heart, gave all for UW. Dnc, shame on you

    Says the guy who ripped Cody Pickett nonstop week after week in 2002 calling for Casey Paus to start.

    #Hicford!

    Not such a noob after all.

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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Josh Shirley - Looked amazing as a frosh. Not even sure he's still on the team by his junior year.
    dhdawg said:

    BTW there's a good option for the field in Sione Potoa'e representing the complete lack of player development under sark

    You could also add Dexter "Hands To The Face" Charles to represent the most penalized team in the history of civilization.

    Lots of options.

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  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    How did Sark sacrifice Jake?
    dnc said:

    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    I love Jack, but he is exhibit A for Sark sacrificing a kid and the team for his own ego. Taking away Locker's ability to run was the antithesis of Rick coming in and running the option with Tui.

    dnc said:

    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    I love Jack, but he is exhibit A for Sark sacrificing a kid and the team for his own ego. Taking away Locker's ability to run was the antithesis of Rick coming in and running the option with Tui.

    Sark turned Jake into a rich NFL player with a bright future. What sacrifice do you speak of dipshit?
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    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Josh Shirley - Looked amazing as a frosh. Not even sure he's still on the team by his junior year.
    puppylove_sugarsteel said:

    How did Sark sacrifice Jake?

    dnc said:

    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    I love Jack, but he is exhibit A for Sark sacrificing a kid and the team for his own ego. Taking away Locker's ability to run was the antithesis of Rick coming in and running the option with Tui.

    dnc said:

    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    I love Jack, but he is exhibit A for Sark sacrificing a kid and the team for his own ego. Taking away Locker's ability to run was the antithesis of Rick coming in and running the option with Tui.

    Sark turned Jake into a rich NFL player with a bright future. What sacrifice do you speak of dipshit?
    Jake Almighty.

    Doogs gonna doog.

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  • RaccoonHarry
    RaccoonHarry Member Posts: 2,161
    James Atoe - First round LT
    Atoe. State of Oregon kid and when he signed with UW some at UO were probably thinking "wow, did we miss on this kid"? Uh, no - you didn't.
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  • IrishDawg22
    IrishDawg22 Member Posts: 2,754
    James Atoe - First round LT
    The Field.
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  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    How many yards did this Oline help Sankey to enjoy? What I thought you ignorant bitches. Sark ' s 2 deep Oline will be the best in the conference next year. Don't let reality slap you guys in the collective cunts. Back to WOW and D&D girls.
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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Jake Locker - Overrated, not that bright, terribly inconsistent. Just a couple manboobs and trips to Joey's from being Sark.
    puppylove_sugarsteel said:

    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    How many yards did this Oline help Sankey to enjoy? What I thought you ignorant bitches. Sark ' s 2 deep Oline will be the best in the conference next year. Don't let reality slap you guys in the collective cunts. Back to WOW and D&D girls.
    Best o line in the PAC-12 he says. Expect 7 wins he says.

    Doogs gonna doog.
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  • IrishDawg22
    IrishDawg22 Member Posts: 2,754
    James Atoe - First round LT
    puppylove_sugarsteel said:

    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    How many yards did this Oline help Sankey to enjoy? What I thought you ignorant bitches. Sark ' s 2 deep Oline will be the best in the conference next year. Don't let reality slap you guys in the collective cunts. Back to WOW and D&D girls.
    Puppy, there is a huge difference between run blocking and pass blocking. I think we have the guys who have brute strength and can move a pile. But they lack technique and discipline hence all the sacks and penalties.

    Thank God Cozz hit the road and Strausser should make an immediate impact with those guys.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Josh Shirley - Looked amazing as a frosh. Not even sure he's still on the team by his junior year.
    puppylove_sugarsteel said:

    How did Sark sacrifice Jake?

    dnc said:

    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    I love Jack, but he is exhibit A for Sark sacrificing a kid and the team for his own ego. Taking away Locker's ability to run was the antithesis of Rick coming in and running the option with Tui.

    dnc said:

    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    I love Jack, but he is exhibit A for Sark sacrificing a kid and the team for his own ego. Taking away Locker's ability to run was the antithesis of Rick coming in and running the option with Tui.

    Sark turned Jake into a rich NFL player with a bright future. What sacrifice do you speak of dipshit?
    Since I think you're actually serious, here goes. Jake had one incredible talent - he was a great runner. Big, fast, strong, elusive, Jake was a serious threat everytime he took off. His running was something every team had to account for.

    Sark comes in and decides he's going to make Jake a pocket passer to show the world what a great QB guru he is, taking away 90% of his greatest asset.

    And here's the thing - Jake's greatest asset as a passer is the ability to throw on the move. I don't believe for a second he doesn't go as high or higher if Sark didn't let him do what he did best, ESPECIALLY since Sark never bothered to develop an OL that would allow him to throw well from the pocket. And UW wins at least 3 or 4 more games total with Jake being allowed to run his junior and senior years.

    But Sark put a leash on him so people like you would believe that Sark turned him into a rich NFL player. Success!
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  • IrishDawg22
    IrishDawg22 Member Posts: 2,754
    James Atoe - First round LT
    dnc said:

    puppylove_sugarsteel said:

    How did Sark sacrifice Jake?

    dnc said:

    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    I love Jack, but he is exhibit A for Sark sacrificing a kid and the team for his own ego. Taking away Locker's ability to run was the antithesis of Rick coming in and running the option with Tui.

    dnc said:

    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    I love Jack, but he is exhibit A for Sark sacrificing a kid and the team for his own ego. Taking away Locker's ability to run was the antithesis of Rick coming in and running the option with Tui.

    Sark turned Jake into a rich NFL player with a bright future. What sacrifice do you speak of dipshit?
    Since I think you're actually serious, here goes. Jake had one incredible talent - he was a great runner. Big, fast, strong, elusive, Jake was a serious threat everytime he took off. His running was something every team had to account for.

    Sark comes in and decides he's going to make Jake a pocket passer to show the world what a great QB guru he is, taking away 90% of his greatest asset.

    And here's the thing - Jake's greatest asset as a passer is the ability to throw on the move. I don't believe for a second he doesn't go as high or higher if Sark didn't let him do what he did best, ESPECIALLY since Sark never bothered to develop an OL that would allow him to throw well from the pocket. And UW wins at least 3 or 4 more games total with Jake being allowed to run his junior and senior years.

    But Sark put a leash on him so people like you would believe that Sark turned him into a rich NFL player. Success!
    Jake would have been lights out in this new system and having an actual TE to throw to not named Barnett or Izbicki.

    Plus all those bubble screens really boost the completion %.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Josh Shirley - Looked amazing as a frosh. Not even sure he's still on the team by his junior year.
    IrishDawg22 said:

    dnc said:

    puppylove_sugarsteel said:

    How did Sark sacrifice Jake?

    dnc said:

    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    I love Jack, but he is exhibit A for Sark sacrificing a kid and the team for his own ego. Taking away Locker's ability to run was the antithesis of Rick coming in and running the option with Tui.

    dnc said:

    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    I love Jack, but he is exhibit A for Sark sacrificing a kid and the team for his own ego. Taking away Locker's ability to run was the antithesis of Rick coming in and running the option with Tui.

    Sark turned Jake into a rich NFL player with a bright future. What sacrifice do you speak of dipshit?
    Since I think you're actually serious, here goes. Jake had one incredible talent - he was a great runner. Big, fast, strong, elusive, Jake was a serious threat everytime he took off. His running was something every team had to account for.

    Sark comes in and decides he's going to make Jake a pocket passer to show the world what a great QB guru he is, taking away 90% of his greatest asset.

    And here's the thing - Jake's greatest asset as a passer is the ability to throw on the move. I don't believe for a second he doesn't go as high or higher if Sark didn't let him do what he did best, ESPECIALLY since Sark never bothered to develop an OL that would allow him to throw well from the pocket. And UW wins at least 3 or 4 more games total with Jake being allowed to run his junior and senior years.

    But Sark put a leash on him so people like you would believe that Sark turned him into a rich NFL player. Success!
    Jake would have been lights out in this new system and having an actual TE to throw to not named Barnett or Izbicki.

    Plus all those bubble screens really boost the completion %.
    Agreed completely. Having a tight end would have made a big difference. And can you imagine Jake running the read option with Polk or Sankey?
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  • WildcatHB
    WildcatHB Member Posts: 46
    Josh Shirley - Looked amazing as a frosh. Not even sure he's still on the team by his junior year.
    dnc said:

    IrishDawg22 said:

    dnc said:

    puppylove_sugarsteel said:

    How did Sark sacrifice Jake?

    dnc said:

    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    I love Jack, but he is exhibit A for Sark sacrificing a kid and the team for his own ego. Taking away Locker's ability to run was the antithesis of Rick coming in and running the option with Tui.

    dnc said:

    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    I love Jack, but he is exhibit A for Sark sacrificing a kid and the team for his own ego. Taking away Locker's ability to run was the antithesis of Rick coming in and running the option with Tui.

    Sark turned Jake into a rich NFL player with a bright future. What sacrifice do you speak of dipshit?
    Since I think you're actually serious, here goes. Jake had one incredible talent - he was a great runner. Big, fast, strong, elusive, Jake was a serious threat everytime he took off. His running was something every team had to account for.

    Sark comes in and decides he's going to make Jake a pocket passer to show the world what a great QB guru he is, taking away 90% of his greatest asset.

    And here's the thing - Jake's greatest asset as a passer is the ability to throw on the move. I don't believe for a second he doesn't go as high or higher if Sark didn't let him do what he did best, ESPECIALLY since Sark never bothered to develop an OL that would allow him to throw well from the pocket. And UW wins at least 3 or 4 more games total with Jake being allowed to run his junior and senior years.

    But Sark put a leash on him so people like you would believe that Sark turned him into a rich NFL player. Success!
    Jake would have been lights out in this new system and having an actual TE to throw to not named Barnett or Izbicki.

    Plus all those bubble screens really boost the completion %.
    Agreed completely. Having a tight end would have made a big difference. And can you imagine Jake running the read option with Polk or Sankey?
    From what I remember Locker wasn't the best decision maker when we actually did run the read option.

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  • IrishDawg22
    IrishDawg22 Member Posts: 2,754
    James Atoe - First round LT
    dnc said:

    IrishDawg22 said:

    dnc said:

    puppylove_sugarsteel said:

    How did Sark sacrifice Jake?

    dnc said:

    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    I love Jack, but he is exhibit A for Sark sacrificing a kid and the team for his own ego. Taking away Locker's ability to run was the antithesis of Rick coming in and running the option with Tui.

    dnc said:

    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    I love Jack, but he is exhibit A for Sark sacrificing a kid and the team for his own ego. Taking away Locker's ability to run was the antithesis of Rick coming in and running the option with Tui.

    Sark turned Jake into a rich NFL player with a bright future. What sacrifice do you speak of dipshit?
    Since I think you're actually serious, here goes. Jake had one incredible talent - he was a great runner. Big, fast, strong, elusive, Jake was a serious threat everytime he took off. His running was something every team had to account for.

    Sark comes in and decides he's going to make Jake a pocket passer to show the world what a great QB guru he is, taking away 90% of his greatest asset.

    And here's the thing - Jake's greatest asset as a passer is the ability to throw on the move. I don't believe for a second he doesn't go as high or higher if Sark didn't let him do what he did best, ESPECIALLY since Sark never bothered to develop an OL that would allow him to throw well from the pocket. And UW wins at least 3 or 4 more games total with Jake being allowed to run his junior and senior years.

    But Sark put a leash on him so people like you would believe that Sark turned him into a rich NFL player. Success!
    Jake would have been lights out in this new system and having an actual TE to throw to not named Barnett or Izbicki.

    Plus all those bubble screens really boost the completion %.
    Agreed completely. Having a tight end would have made a big difference. And can you imagine Jake running the read option with Polk or Sankey?
    He would have had a chance to go for a 3000-1000 yard year.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Josh Shirley - Looked amazing as a frosh. Not even sure he's still on the team by his junior year.
    WildcatHB said:

    dnc said:

    IrishDawg22 said:

    dnc said:

    puppylove_sugarsteel said:

    How did Sark sacrifice Jake?

    dnc said:

    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    I love Jack, but he is exhibit A for Sark sacrificing a kid and the team for his own ego. Taking away Locker's ability to run was the antithesis of Rick coming in and running the option with Tui.

    dnc said:

    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    I love Jack, but he is exhibit A for Sark sacrificing a kid and the team for his own ego. Taking away Locker's ability to run was the antithesis of Rick coming in and running the option with Tui.

    Sark turned Jake into a rich NFL player with a bright future. What sacrifice do you speak of dipshit?
    Since I think you're actually serious, here goes. Jake had one incredible talent - he was a great runner. Big, fast, strong, elusive, Jake was a serious threat everytime he took off. His running was something every team had to account for.

    Sark comes in and decides he's going to make Jake a pocket passer to show the world what a great QB guru he is, taking away 90% of his greatest asset.

    And here's the thing - Jake's greatest asset as a passer is the ability to throw on the move. I don't believe for a second he doesn't go as high or higher if Sark didn't let him do what he did best, ESPECIALLY since Sark never bothered to develop an OL that would allow him to throw well from the pocket. And UW wins at least 3 or 4 more games total with Jake being allowed to run his junior and senior years.

    But Sark put a leash on him so people like you would believe that Sark turned him into a rich NFL player. Success!
    Jake would have been lights out in this new system and having an actual TE to throw to not named Barnett or Izbicki.

    Plus all those bubble screens really boost the completion %.
    Agreed completely. Having a tight end would have made a big difference. And can you imagine Jake running the read option with Polk or Sankey?
    From what I remember Locker wasn't the best decision maker when we actually did run the read option.

    Yeah, but still.

    I know Jack wasn't the brightest, but even if he only made the right decision 50% of the time it would have been a great weapon, and surely he could have gotten to 60 or 70%, at least.

    IIRC, it was still a pretty solid weapon with Jack and Rankin Jack's frosh year. And Polk and Sankey are both >>>>>> Rankin (who was much better than whoever played when Polk got hurt in 08 - I've blocked most of that year out).

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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Jake Locker - Overrated, not that bright, terribly inconsistent. Just a couple manboobs and trips to Joey's from being Sark.
    WildcatHB said:

    dnc said:

    IrishDawg22 said:

    dnc said:

    puppylove_sugarsteel said:

    How did Sark sacrifice Jake?

    dnc said:

    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    I love Jack, but he is exhibit A for Sark sacrificing a kid and the team for his own ego. Taking away Locker's ability to run was the antithesis of Rick coming in and running the option with Tui.

    dnc said:

    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    I love Jack, but he is exhibit A for Sark sacrificing a kid and the team for his own ego. Taking away Locker's ability to run was the antithesis of Rick coming in and running the option with Tui.

    Sark turned Jake into a rich NFL player with a bright future. What sacrifice do you speak of dipshit?
    Since I think you're actually serious, here goes. Jake had one incredible talent - he was a great runner. Big, fast, strong, elusive, Jake was a serious threat everytime he took off. His running was something every team had to account for.

    Sark comes in and decides he's going to make Jake a pocket passer to show the world what a great QB guru he is, taking away 90% of his greatest asset.

    And here's the thing - Jake's greatest asset as a passer is the ability to throw on the move. I don't believe for a second he doesn't go as high or higher if Sark didn't let him do what he did best, ESPECIALLY since Sark never bothered to develop an OL that would allow him to throw well from the pocket. And UW wins at least 3 or 4 more games total with Jake being allowed to run his junior and senior years.

    But Sark put a leash on him so people like you would believe that Sark turned him into a rich NFL player. Success!
    Jake would have been lights out in this new system and having an actual TE to throw to not named Barnett or Izbicki.

    Plus all those bubble screens really boost the completion %.
    Agreed completely. Having a tight end would have made a big difference. And can you imagine Jake running the read option with Polk or Sankey?
    From what I remember Locker wasn't the best decision maker when we actually did run the read option.

    Lockner can eat a dick but in his defense they never really ran the read option with him. They ran plays that looked like the read option but he wasn't supposed to keep it. It looked like omg he should have just kept it all the time because they didn't let him keep it. They were designed handoffs.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Josh Shirley - Looked amazing as a frosh. Not even sure he's still on the team by his junior year.
    allpurpleallgold said:

    WildcatHB said:

    dnc said:

    IrishDawg22 said:

    dnc said:

    puppylove_sugarsteel said:

    How did Sark sacrifice Jake?

    dnc said:

    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    I love Jack, but he is exhibit A for Sark sacrificing a kid and the team for his own ego. Taking away Locker's ability to run was the antithesis of Rick coming in and running the option with Tui.

    dnc said:

    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    I love Jack, but he is exhibit A for Sark sacrificing a kid and the team for his own ego. Taking away Locker's ability to run was the antithesis of Rick coming in and running the option with Tui.

    Sark turned Jake into a rich NFL player with a bright future. What sacrifice do you speak of dipshit?
    Since I think you're actually serious, here goes. Jake had one incredible talent - he was a great runner. Big, fast, strong, elusive, Jake was a serious threat everytime he took off. His running was something every team had to account for.

    Sark comes in and decides he's going to make Jake a pocket passer to show the world what a great QB guru he is, taking away 90% of his greatest asset.

    And here's the thing - Jake's greatest asset as a passer is the ability to throw on the move. I don't believe for a second he doesn't go as high or higher if Sark didn't let him do what he did best, ESPECIALLY since Sark never bothered to develop an OL that would allow him to throw well from the pocket. And UW wins at least 3 or 4 more games total with Jake being allowed to run his junior and senior years.

    But Sark put a leash on him so people like you would believe that Sark turned him into a rich NFL player. Success!
    Jake would have been lights out in this new system and having an actual TE to throw to not named Barnett or Izbicki.

    Plus all those bubble screens really boost the completion %.
    Agreed completely. Having a tight end would have made a big difference. And can you imagine Jake running the read option with Polk or Sankey?
    From what I remember Locker wasn't the best decision maker when we actually did run the read option.

    Lockner can eat a dick but in his defense they never really ran the read option with him. They ran plays that looked like the read option but he wasn't supposed to keep it. It looked like omg he should have just kept it all the time because they didn't let him keep it. They were designed handoffs.
    Hmmm, I don't remember that but you're probably right. That would make sense. Does that say more about the coaches or their lack of faith in Jake's ability to make the read?

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  • IrishDawg22
    IrishDawg22 Member Posts: 2,754
    edited December 2013
    James Atoe - First round LT
    WildcatHB said:

    dnc said:

    IrishDawg22 said:

    dnc said:

    puppylove_sugarsteel said:

    How did Sark sacrifice Jake?

    dnc said:

    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    I love Jack, but he is exhibit A for Sark sacrificing a kid and the team for his own ego. Taking away Locker's ability to run was the antithesis of Rick coming in and running the option with Tui.

    dnc said:

    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    I love Jack, but he is exhibit A for Sark sacrificing a kid and the team for his own ego. Taking away Locker's ability to run was the antithesis of Rick coming in and running the option with Tui.

    Sark turned Jake into a rich NFL player with a bright future. What sacrifice do you speak of dipshit?
    Since I think you're actually serious, here goes. Jake had one incredible talent - he was a great runner. Big, fast, strong, elusive, Jake was a serious threat everytime he took off. His running was something every team had to account for.

    Sark comes in and decides he's going to make Jake a pocket passer to show the world what a great QB guru he is, taking away 90% of his greatest asset.

    And here's the thing - Jake's greatest asset as a passer is the ability to throw on the move. I don't believe for a second he doesn't go as high or higher if Sark didn't let him do what he did best, ESPECIALLY since Sark never bothered to develop an OL that would allow him to throw well from the pocket. And UW wins at least 3 or 4 more games total with Jake being allowed to run his junior and senior years.

    But Sark put a leash on him so people like you would believe that Sark turned him into a rich NFL player. Success!
    Jake would have been lights out in this new system and having an actual TE to throw to not named Barnett or Izbicki.

    Plus all those bubble screens really boost the completion %.
    Agreed completely. Having a tight end would have made a big difference. And can you imagine Jake running the read option with Polk or Sankey?
    From what I remember Locker wasn't the best decision maker when we actually did run the read option.

    Running as an occasional gimic is a lot different then having it installed as the core of all of your running plays.
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  • WildcatHB
    WildcatHB Member Posts: 46
    edited December 2013
    Josh Shirley - Looked amazing as a frosh. Not even sure he's still on the team by his junior year.
    Yeah true it would have worked out better than over throwing receivers 10 yards out. He was fucking fast. Maybe if he had actual coaching he would have gotten good at it.
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    poc81 Member Posts: 219
    Cort Dennison….pencil arms firming up but man boobs and guts are still there….
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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Jake Locker - Overrated, not that bright, terribly inconsistent. Just a couple manboobs and trips to Joey's from being Sark.
    dnc said:

    allpurpleallgold said:

    WildcatHB said:

    dnc said:

    IrishDawg22 said:

    dnc said:

    puppylove_sugarsteel said:

    How did Sark sacrifice Jake?

    dnc said:

    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    I love Jack, but he is exhibit A for Sark sacrificing a kid and the team for his own ego. Taking away Locker's ability to run was the antithesis of Rick coming in and running the option with Tui.

    dnc said:

    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    I love Jack, but he is exhibit A for Sark sacrificing a kid and the team for his own ego. Taking away Locker's ability to run was the antithesis of Rick coming in and running the option with Tui.

    Sark turned Jake into a rich NFL player with a bright future. What sacrifice do you speak of dipshit?
    Since I think you're actually serious, here goes. Jake had one incredible talent - he was a great runner. Big, fast, strong, elusive, Jake was a serious threat everytime he took off. His running was something every team had to account for.

    Sark comes in and decides he's going to make Jake a pocket passer to show the world what a great QB guru he is, taking away 90% of his greatest asset.

    And here's the thing - Jake's greatest asset as a passer is the ability to throw on the move. I don't believe for a second he doesn't go as high or higher if Sark didn't let him do what he did best, ESPECIALLY since Sark never bothered to develop an OL that would allow him to throw well from the pocket. And UW wins at least 3 or 4 more games total with Jake being allowed to run his junior and senior years.

    But Sark put a leash on him so people like you would believe that Sark turned him into a rich NFL player. Success!
    Jake would have been lights out in this new system and having an actual TE to throw to not named Barnett or Izbicki.

    Plus all those bubble screens really boost the completion %.
    Agreed completely. Having a tight end would have made a big difference. And can you imagine Jake running the read option with Polk or Sankey?
    From what I remember Locker wasn't the best decision maker when we actually did run the read option.

    Lockner can eat a dick but in his defense they never really ran the read option with him. They ran plays that looked like the read option but he wasn't supposed to keep it. It looked like omg he should have just kept it all the time because they didn't let him keep it. They were designed handoffs.
    Hmmm, I don't remember that but you're probably right. That would make sense. Does that say more about the coaches or their lack of faith in Jake's ability to make the read?

    Well you're right that under Ty they used it effectively. I always thought it had more to do with Sarks obsession with turning Lockner into a "pro" quarterback.
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    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Josh Shirley - Looked amazing as a frosh. Not even sure he's still on the team by his junior year.
    allpurpleallgold said:

    dnc said:

    allpurpleallgold said:

    WildcatHB said:

    dnc said:

    IrishDawg22 said:

    dnc said:

    puppylove_sugarsteel said:

    How did Sark sacrifice Jake?

    dnc said:

    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    I love Jack, but he is exhibit A for Sark sacrificing a kid and the team for his own ego. Taking away Locker's ability to run was the antithesis of Rick coming in and running the option with Tui.

    dnc said:

    Gladstone said:

    Yep, agreed with Irish. When I think Sark, I think about the complete failure to adequately recruit and develop OL. Brostek encapsulates that failure.

    Also Locker doesn't deserve to be on that list. Overrated though he is.

    I love Jack, but he is exhibit A for Sark sacrificing a kid and the team for his own ego. Taking away Locker's ability to run was the antithesis of Rick coming in and running the option with Tui.

    Sark turned Jake into a rich NFL player with a bright future. What sacrifice do you speak of dipshit?
    Since I think you're actually serious, here goes. Jake had one incredible talent - he was a great runner. Big, fast, strong, elusive, Jake was a serious threat everytime he took off. His running was something every team had to account for.

    Sark comes in and decides he's going to make Jake a pocket passer to show the world what a great QB guru he is, taking away 90% of his greatest asset.

    And here's the thing - Jake's greatest asset as a passer is the ability to throw on the move. I don't believe for a second he doesn't go as high or higher if Sark didn't let him do what he did best, ESPECIALLY since Sark never bothered to develop an OL that would allow him to throw well from the pocket. And UW wins at least 3 or 4 more games total with Jake being allowed to run his junior and senior years.

    But Sark put a leash on him so people like you would believe that Sark turned him into a rich NFL player. Success!
    Jake would have been lights out in this new system and having an actual TE to throw to not named Barnett or Izbicki.

    Plus all those bubble screens really boost the completion %.
    Agreed completely. Having a tight end would have made a big difference. And can you imagine Jake running the read option with Polk or Sankey?
    From what I remember Locker wasn't the best decision maker when we actually did run the read option.

    Lockner can eat a dick but in his defense they never really ran the read option with him. They ran plays that looked like the read option but he wasn't supposed to keep it. It looked like omg he should have just kept it all the time because they didn't let him keep it. They were designed handoffs.
    Hmmm, I don't remember that but you're probably right. That would make sense. Does that say more about the coaches or their lack of faith in Jake's ability to make the read?

    Well you're right that under Ty they used it effectively. I always thought it had more to do with Sarks obsession with turning Lockner into a "pro" quarterback.
    Bingo

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  • Homebrew_Dawg
    Homebrew_Dawg Member Posts: 1,652
    Josh Shirley - Looked amazing as a frosh. Not even sure he's still on the team by his junior year.
    From the list, Josh Shirley best symbolizes the Sark era. Flash in the pan.

    Without being a revisionist or a doog, Sark accomplished more than I expected his first season. Afterward not at all. Why? For all the reasons given in these comments.

    Can it really be called an "era?" Besides being here too long, what else distinctive did he do? Perhaps he was uncommonly inept.
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