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  • BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 11,934
    If you thought the riots were bad now, wait and see what happens if one of these cops walks. They basically have to be convicted, fair or not, for the good of the country.

    The idiots clamoring for Murder 1 and mad about that not being the charge would have gone insane had he walked on Murder 1 (which he would). There is no satisfying the mob right now. Convictions will help for the short-term, but this is not going to get any better without actual criminal justice reform.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,915

    Seemed like a trying to be good guy with a violent history and some chemical dependency issues who was out of work, broke, and tried to pass a fake $20 bill to eat. Oh well, better than robbing the store.

    I wonder what the fuck the cop was thinking. Just let him lay on the ground until he calms down. He was cuffed. Completely unnecessary.

    Sounds like the shut down and the subsequent loss of his job pushed him back into his old ways. Tragic.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,400 Standard Supporter
    edited June 2020

    One of the cops charged, it was his 3rd day on the job and he spoke up twice to 20 year vet Chauvin and was shot down

    He isnt getting convicted of anything

    The most senior officer on scene is in charge and responsible. I'm betting that was Chauvin. That rookie should have nothing to fear but they will fry him to placate the mobs. Talk about getting railroaded.
  • LebamDawgLebamDawg Member Posts: 8,740 Standard Supporter

    If you thought the riots were bad now, wait and see what happens if one of these cops walks. They basically have to be convicted, fair or not, for the good of the country.

    The idiots clamoring for Murder 1 and mad about that not being the charge would have gone insane had he walked on Murder 1 (which he would). There is no satisfying the mob right now. Convictions will help for the short-term, but this is not going to get any better without actual criminal justice reform.

    I am sure that some that want to burn the country down wanted Murder 1 - we ain't perfect in this country and this is one reason why no one will ever unite this vast country.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,985 Standard Supporter
    edited June 2020

    To me the important thing is charging the other three cops

    That will actually bring about real change

    This. Deserves a couple hundred Chins.

    When a cop witnesses another cop applying excessive force - when it's clearly excessive - he can't stand by and watch another cop commit a crime right in front of him. And if he participates in the cover-up, he's an accessory. I want them all charged so we can hear all of their testimony, including cross-examination. That's the best version of the facts we'll ever get and if they plea out to something minuscule, we'll never know as much as we should.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,985 Standard Supporter

    If you thought the riots were bad now, wait and see what happens if one of these cops walks. They basically have to be convicted, fair or not, for the good of the country.

    The idiots clamoring for Murder 1 and mad about that not being the charge would have gone insane had he walked on Murder 1 (which he would). There is no satisfying the mob right now. Convictions will help for the short-term, but this is not going to get any better without actual criminal justice reform.

    Don't you mean "policing reforms" vs "criminal justice" reform? Justice is after the fact. The failures are on the front end, from contact to arrest. Or death. That's the shit that needs fixing.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,645

    To me the important thing is charging the other three cops

    That will actually bring about real change

    This. Deserves a couple hundred Chins.

    When a cop witnesses another cop applying excessive force - when it's clearly excessive - he can't stand by and watch another cop commit a crime right in front of him. And if he participates in the cover-up, he's an accessory. I want them all charged so we can hear all of their testimony, including cross-examination. That's the best version of the facts we'll ever get and if they plea out to something minuscule, we'll never know as much as we should.
    Sleddy says the other cops are being railroaded because rookies.
  • NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    edited June 2020
    Still didn’t deserve to die, but according to breaking reports...

    Police body cam footage may not be favorable for the prosecution.


    BREAKING: Full George Floyd autopsy reveals his blood concentration of the powerful street opioid fentanyl was 4 times the level known to cause "fatalities." Floyd also had speed & marijuana in system. First arresting officer on scene saw "foam" around mouth, asked if "on anything.”

  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,645
    edited June 2020

    Still didn’t deserve to die, but according to breaking reports...

    Police body cam footage may not be favorable for the prosecution.


    BREAKING: Full George Floyd autopsy reveals his blood concentration of the powerful street opioid fentanyl was 4 times the level known to cause "fatalities." Floyd also had speed & marijuana in system. First arresting officer on scene saw "foam" around mouth, asked if "on anything.”

    To be fair, Sleddy said this, too, before it was out.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,985 Standard Supporter

    To me the important thing is charging the other three cops

    That will actually bring about real change

    This. Deserves a couple hundred Chins.

    When a cop witnesses another cop applying excessive force - when it's clearly excessive - he can't stand by and watch another cop commit a crime right in front of him. And if he participates in the cover-up, he's an accessory. I want them all charged so we can hear all of their testimony, including cross-examination. That's the best version of the facts we'll ever get and if they plea out to something minuscule, we'll never know as much as we should.
    Sleddy says the other cops are being railroaded because rookies.
    Maybe they are. And if the justice system does it's job, maybe they'll go free.

    My bet is somewhere in between. But we need to hear the full stories, on direct and cross. Anything less is not enough.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,985 Standard Supporter

    Still didn’t deserve to die, but according to breaking reports...

    Police body cam footage may not be favorable for the prosecution.


    BREAKING: Full George Floyd autopsy reveals his blood concentration of the powerful street opioid fentanyl was 4 times the level known to cause "fatalities." Floyd also had speed & marijuana in system. First arresting officer on scene saw "foam" around mouth, asked if "on anything.”

    You take your victim into custody as you find them. The MN cops aren't skating on that.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,645

    Still didn’t deserve to die, but according to breaking reports...

    Police body cam footage may not be favorable for the prosecution.


    BREAKING: Full George Floyd autopsy reveals his blood concentration of the powerful street opioid fentanyl was 4 times the level known to cause "fatalities." Floyd also had speed & marijuana in system. First arresting officer on scene saw "foam" around mouth, asked if "on anything.”

    You take your victim into custody as you find them. The MN cops aren't skating on that.
    No, and it won't change the narrative now ... genie is out the bottle. But if the guy was hopped up on a chemical cocktail, it should make a difference in court if, as I suspect would be the case, that contributed to his demise.

    Because, right or wrong, I've seen my share of cops hitting a victim pretty hard with overwhelming force. Especially in Miami back in the day - you didn't fuck with Miami cops because they would fuck you up and nobody said shit. Especially the Cuban cops. All fucking Canseco'd up huge dudes who were ready to rumble. Didn't see one die. That normally required gun fight. So if this guy's blood stream was loaded with dangerous chemicals, it's relevant unless we're in a kangaroo court.
  • NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    How do you survive 4 times the lethal dose of fetanyl? If he had dropped dead that's one thing. That tells me that the Medic 1 team may be in trouble as well. Like Turd said, you put him on the ground for 8 minutes you bought it. At least partial hence manslaughter.

    Tolerance is a thing. There is a reason the bodycam footage with audio hasn’t been released to the public.

    It would just be nice to have all information available at once to quell suspicions.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,486 Founders Club

    How do you survive 4 times the lethal dose of fetanyl? If he had dropped dead that's one thing. That tells me that the Medic 1 team may be in trouble as well. Like Turd said, you put him on the ground for 8 minutes you bought it. At least partial hence manslaughter.

    Tolerance is a thing. There is a reason the bodycam footage with audio hasn’t been released to the public.

    It would just be nice to have all information available at once to quell suspicions.
    Agree but that window is shut for the moment
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,400 Standard Supporter

    To me the important thing is charging the other three cops

    That will actually bring about real change

    This. Deserves a couple hundred Chins.

    When a cop witnesses another cop applying excessive force - when it's clearly excessive - he can't stand by and watch another cop commit a crime right in front of him. And if he participates in the cover-up, he's an accessory. I want them all charged so we can hear all of their testimony, including cross-examination. That's the best version of the facts we'll ever get and if they plea out to something minuscule, we'll never know as much as we should.
    Sleddy says the other cops are being railroaded because rookies.
    No I didn't but the rookie with a few days on hasn't even been allowed to drive a police car and he's been told to shut up and observe. The guy kneeling on his neck was in charge most likely.
  • WilburHooksHandsWilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    edited June 2020

    How do you survive 4 times the lethal dose of fetanyl? If he had dropped dead that's one thing. That tells me that the Medic 1 team may be in trouble as well. Like Turd said, you put him on the ground for 8 minutes you bought it. At least partial hence manslaughter.

    if you are anywhere near the fatal level of an opioid in your blood, I dont think you’re going to be conscious and talking to people
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,515 Standard Supporter

    How do you survive 4 times the lethal dose of fetanyl? If he had dropped dead that's one thing. That tells me that the Medic 1 team may be in trouble as well. Like Turd said, you put him on the ground for 8 minutes you bought it. At least partial hence manslaughter.

    if you are anywhere near the fatal level of an opioid in your blood, I dont think you’re going to be conscious and talking to people
    Good poont.

    I don't get everyone going Quincy MD on these autopsies. Leave that to defense attorneys.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,985 Standard Supporter

    How do you survive 4 times the lethal dose of fetanyl? If he had dropped dead that's one thing. That tells me that the Medic 1 team may be in trouble as well. Like Turd said, you put him on the ground for 8 minutes you bought it. At least partial hence manslaughter.

    if you are anywhere near the fatal level of an opioid in your blood, I dont think you’re going to be conscious and talking to people
    Good poont.

    I don't get everyone going Quincy MD on these autopsies. Leave that to defense attorneys.
    AsswhatI'msayin
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,752 Standard Supporter
    edited June 2020
    Not to go all wag the dog/obk but is it possible dude was already dead, they dropped him and dubbed in the whole I can’t breathe shit?

    I don’t know what the fuck or who the fuck to believe lately. There’s more lying lately than a Korean dog market.

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