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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,204

    SFGbob said:

    Systemic racism is being hand cuffed, tried, and executed on the side walk. There are some people that did a crime that absolutely should be arresting, they are not asking to not being arrested but they are asking no to be tried and convicted on the sidewalk. George Floyd was using "alleged" bad checks it wasn't even confirmed and he was treated that way and murdered. While you take Gabe Mcdonalds who shot 8 people in a church and they take him out to get something to eat. They want what we want, they want to grow old and live, a chance at opportunities, better learning, fair lending practices for businesses. You can sit perfectly still and still get shot, they don't know what to tell their kids about police. Privilege is not that you didn't grow up poor or worked hard no one takes that from you. Privilege is you don't have to go through life fearful of losing you're life innocently on the sidewalk. Privilege is being able to ignore what is going on because it doesn't affect you. If you can sit there and be ok if someone were to ask you "Would you like to be treated as Black people?" and you have to think about it or stay silent or just no. Then you know deep down something is off and something isn't equal. Systemic racism is like the women in central park who chokes her dog and calls the police lying to them about being threatened by a black man. Those phone calls lead to cases like Floyd... No one is taking your privilege away or saying its bad but one life matters more than the other right now. Anyone with a brain knows "All lives matter" but until All lives matter equally we need to run to this portion in our community and aid them until All lived really do matter equally.. It good to have these conversations

    So is this white privilege?

    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/investigations/2019/07/31/you-re-gonna-kill-me-dallas-police-body-cam-footage-reveals-the-final-minutes-of-tony-timpa-s-life/
    Ive seen the footage and it saddens me. Beating anyone like that they should be tried fairly. Anyone would be a hypocrite to call justice for floyd but turn around and make excuses for that group getting off the hook. Also this video has nothing to do with the comment being made about privilege you're clearly posting something that has an agenda to it. Would you like me to post the George Floyd video? Or the women in central park? Or maybe the names and cases of countless white teens who shoot up a school and get off with "mental illness", while people of color can have a check bounced and be suffocated to death on the side-walk or maybe these are the videos you meant to post. Anyone who can take another life no matter the race should be prosecuted that's not what this discussion is about. The discussion is privilege and systemic racism.
    There are countless cases of white teens shooting up schools and getting released because of mental illness?
    I can see the future, want to see? That line of bullshit will never be supported.
  • DodgyBloke
    DodgyBloke Member Posts: 957

    There are countless cases of white teens shooting up schools and getting released because of mental illness?

    Look up any mass shooting from 2000-2019 white male gets tried and charged but labeled as having a mental illness and will receive treatment instead of Jail for life or the death penalty. That is what I am saying its the court trials and outcomes. If you replace those white teens who did mass shootings and make them african american do you think they will be labeled off with Mental Illness and be given treatment for it?
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,056 Standard Supporter
    @MelloDawg wrote: But white people....

    Not only is that old, tired, trite and lame, you should know that you're on the short list of candidates to replace Hondo, by quickly gaining on @HHusky.

    Up your game, dude. This isn't High School. Stop being such a twit.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,056 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    I know Trayvon's case didn't end well, but I felt the country learned a lot about the danger and unfairness of racial profiling, and that George Zimmerman was a wannabe loser who stalked a kid for no good reason and got away with homicide because of technicalities.

    But for the fact the case had nothing to do with racial profiling, and by "technicalities" you mean every piece of psysical evidence presented in the case, including the eyewitness testimony, then yeah "technicalities."

    And the fact that you or I would've probably acted the same way if some fucking loon was stalking one of us and refused to break off, as told by the cops. The case was over-charged by a simpleton prosecutor who mistook the media attention for momentum and evidence. That's the technicality. And the lesser important fact that dead victims can't testify.

    You're entitled to your own opinion you're not entitled to your own facts.

    What part is not factual, Bob?
  • DodgyBloke
    DodgyBloke Member Posts: 957

    What white teens have shot up a school and gotten off with mental illness, that weren't really mentally ill? My only "agenda" is that one story nobody ever heard of and the other is now causing national protests.

    Plenty of white folks are killed by the police in very similar circumstances to the Floyd murder and yet this white "privilege" that we hear about conveniently never applies to them.



    Its also a Police Brutality protest that's why they are being filmed so much, all eyes are on them. Not all are bad but the bad ones need to go.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,056 Standard Supporter
    edited June 2020

    Trayvon wasn't killed because of white privilege or stalking. He died because he was a POS using extreme force on what he thought was a helpless victim. Zimmerman was free to follow whomever he wanted in his neighborhood. Trayvon was made to feel special and hadn't had to face the consequences of prior crimes. Trademark came back after making it home to look for Zimmerman.

    Extreme force = Hands.

    Helpless Victim = Armed with a Gun.

    Jesus Christ. I've seen it all.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,204
    edited June 2020


    There are countless cases of white teens shooting up schools and getting released because of mental illness?

    Look up any mass shooting from 2000-2019 white male gets tried and charged but labeled as having a mental illness and will receive treatment instead of Jail for life or the death penalty. That is what I am saying its the court trials and outcomes. If you replace those white teens who did mass shootings and make them african american do you think they will be labeled off with Mental Illness and be given treatment for it?

    First of all the overwhelming majority of all school shooters are either killed during the shooting or commit suicide. The Florida school shooter is still awaiting trial in prison not a mental hospital.

    Kip Kinkel is in prison for the rest of his life, not a mental institution. You're full of shit.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781


    There are countless cases of white teens shooting up schools and getting released because of mental illness?

    Look up any mass shooting from 2000-2019 white male gets tried and charged but labeled as having a mental illness and will receive treatment instead of Jail for life or the death penalty. That is what I am saying its the court trials and outcomes. If you replace those white teens who did mass shootings and make them african american do you think they will be labeled off with Mental Illness and be given treatment for it?

    I know of one case of the all the incidents. Can you help? Should be easy to find if there are countless cases.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,855 Swaye's Wigwam
    SFGbob said:

    Privilege is learning about racism rather than growing up experiencing it

    Between 2012 and 2015, blacks committed 85.5 percent of all black-white interracial violent victimizations (excluding interracial homicide, which is also disproportionately black-on-white). That works out to 540,360 felonious assaults on whites. Whites committed 14.4 percent of all interracial violent victimization, or 91,470 felonious assaults on blacks. Blacks are less than 13 percent of the national population.

    Any of these victims experiencing racism?
    What 6 page thread would be complete with out a 'quit palgarism my shit, fucko' ?

    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/72572/ny-post-article-on-black-on-black-crime#latest
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,056 Standard Supporter

    Privilege is learning about racism rather than growing up experiencing it

    Disagree. Quick Question: Do you believe blacks CAN'T be racist because they lack power?