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  • MelloDawgMelloDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,519 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited May 2020
    salemcoog said:

    WJW.

    They should just give him the covid cookies tonight and put him out of his misery.
    There are plenty of Biden gaffes and there will be plenty more, this wasn’t one of them. The idea that 95% of what he says is incomprehensible will be a fun trope to watch play out and is an easy sell if you’ve already made up your mind on him.

    The bonus points go to the “this is so hard and depressing to watch” crowd, some of whom are genuine, many aren’t.
  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,545 Founders Club
    MelloDawg said:


    salemcoog said:

    WJW.

    They should just give him the covid cookies tonight and put him out of his misery.
    There are plenty of Biden gaffes and there will be plenty more, this wasn’t one of them. The idea that 95% of what he says is incomprehensible will be a fun trope to watch play out and is an easy sell if you’ve already made up your mind on him.

    The bonus points go to the “this is so hard and depressing to watch” crowd, some of whom are genuine, many aren’t.
    Can you imagine him in a meeting with someone like Putin?

    He would end up giving Alaska back to Russia with the "look there, sign here" trick.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,485 Standard Supporter
    What happens if a school refuses to play? Seems like a pretty easy solution to me - you take them off the schedule
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited May 2020

    The day the fake 2 million dead model came out was when Trump blinked. I'd like to think I wouldn't have but his own party panicked too. And if it was right who wants to be the guy to kill 2 million Americans

    That's the past. We need to win the future

    Next week will be really bad
    I heard Experts said the #SecondWave will be deadlier than the first and will Strike Down the Young and Healthy, true?
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,844

    salemcoog said:

    In my opinion, Trump has not been up to leadership task that the tims require.

    In in the Grumble Camp on this one. I've admitted here many times that I am sympathetic to some of his policy goals vis a vis China, border security and no more nation building adventures. But pandemics are just not suited to his strengths. The messaging is just too sloppy and all over the map. We need clear, calm fireside chat type stuff to calm the irrational fears and get through this shit.
    What should Trump have done that would have generated a better outcome here today May 14, 2020?
    Xenophobic travel ban on Dec 31 and lock down granny in the nursing homes.
    Not sure if serious. But in hindsight, they should have left the positive cases in the Homes and taken the healthy ones to the empty hospitals. Since it all started in a nursing home, it shouldn't have been that hard to see that.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,844

    What happens if a school refuses to play? Seems like a pretty easy solution to me - you take them off the schedule

    Thanks for the info Franny.
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Heard also that if you’re Young and Healthy and enjoy a Young and Healthy Lifestyle? Kiss it goodbye if you catch Vid. It ravages your lungs and you Never heal.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,004 Standard Supporter
    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    In my opinion, Trump has not been up to leadership task that the tims require.

    In in the Grumble Camp on this one. I've admitted here many times that I am sympathetic to some of his policy goals vis a vis China, border security and no more nation building adventures. But pandemics are just not suited to his strengths. The messaging is just too sloppy and all over the map. We need clear, calm fireside chat type stuff to calm the irrational fears and get through this shit.
    What should Trump have done that would have generated a better outcome here today May 14, 2020?
    Xenophobic travel ban on Dec 31 and lock down granny in the nursing homes.
    Not sure if serious. But in hindsight, they should have left the positive cases in the Homes and taken the healthy ones to the empty hospitals. Since it all started in a nursing home, it shouldn't have been that hard to see that.
    Not enough hospitals. Lots more nursing homes than hospitals.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 34,940 Founders Club

    In my opinion, Trump has not been up to leadership task that the tims require.

    In in the Grumble Camp on this one. I've admitted here many times that I am sympathetic to some of his policy goals vis a vis China, border security and no more nation building adventures. But pandemics are just not suited to his strengths. The messaging is just too sloppy and all over the map. We need clear, calm fireside chat type stuff to calm the irrational fears and get through this shit.
    Actually since it isnt that big of a deal we dont need shit.
    It’s a big deal. Not 2 million dead big deal and not worth the trade off of sending the US into a Great Depression and all that entails.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,851

    In my opinion, Trump has not been up to leadership task that the tims require.

    In in the Grumble Camp on this one. I've admitted here many times that I am sympathetic to some of his policy goals vis a vis China, border security and no more nation building adventures. But pandemics are just not suited to his strengths. The messaging is just too sloppy and all over the map. We need clear, calm fireside chat type stuff to calm the irrational fears and get through this shit.
    Actually since it isnt that big of a deal we dont need shit.
    It’s a big deal. Not 2 million dead big deal and not worth the trade off of sending the US into a Great Depression and all that entails.
    Gotta get trump out tho
  • NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    In my opinion, Trump has not been up to leadership task that the tims require.

    Yes. And no. At least he's not afraid to lead now.

    We have threads here about the state leaders paralyzed by fear of reopening

    Trump is back to let her rip. Which is what we need now.

    While I think he should have told the governors to fuck off I don't think he could

    So he saved 2 million lives

    Tough crowd
    Here in Blue-ass Warshington, I am angry as hell over being caught in the political scrum between governor, congress and Trump.
    What’s the scrum? Seems like Inslee took the ball, ran home, and is making up his own rules now.
  • NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    salemcoog said:

    In my opinion, Trump has not been up to leadership task that the tims require.

    In in the Grumble Camp on this one. I've admitted here many times that I am sympathetic to some of his policy goals vis a vis China, border security and no more nation building adventures. But pandemics are just not suited to his strengths. The messaging is just too sloppy and all over the map. We need clear, calm fireside chat type stuff to calm the irrational fears and get through this shit.
    What should Trump have done that would have generated a better outcome here today May 14, 2020?
    Maybe not spend 3+ years antagonizing half the country, eroding trust, and being a liar?

    Just a thought.
    He’s Putin’s puppet though. I heard it on The News.
  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,638 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    In my opinion, Trump has not been up to leadership task that the tims require.

    I've actually been pleasantly surprised with what he's done. He hasn't panicked and shut everything down like the left would have but hasn't ignored it and done nothing like many on the right would have. Testing has been a debacle but at least the CDC shares some of that blame. And somehow he hasn't fired Fauci despite his notoriously itchy trigger finger and his seemingly constant willingness to pander to his base's thirst for blood.

    I would have expected him to handle this worse than he has.

    To Yella's poont his communication has been as inconsistent and ill-informed as one would expect though. That matters, not as much as what he *does*, but it still matters.

    I can't really think of a politician I think would have done much better through this though. Maybe Mitt. Maybe.

    Sark > Ty and all that but Trump has exceeded my minuscule expectations. I'm fairly okay with him being in charge through this.

    I think we'd be pretty fucked with just about anyone in charge.
    Mitt? Fuck that guy! He's the worst fucking kind of politician. And he wears magic underware and thinks he's going to inherit a planet of which he'll be a god to all the souls he bought (apparenty prays for) here on Earth. He'd be the epitome of the pajama wearing, hot cocoa sipping faggot, beta male to promote Obamacare.
  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,638 Founders Club
    What Grundle? You like Romney or do you think I was too hard on the LDS? Do you think he's a good politician? Fuck me that you Fuck Offed me
  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,638 Founders Club

    What Grundle? You like Romney or do you think I was too hard on the LDS? Do you think he's a good politician? Fuck me that you Fuck Offed me

    So fans of Mitt Romney...got it
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited May 2020

    What Grundle? You like Romney or do you think I was too hard on the LDS? Do you think he's a good politician? Fuck me that you Fuck Offed me

    If Romney would have won, trump wouldn’t be president. But he sucked because he had binders full of women and was literally Hitler
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,485 Standard Supporter

    What Grundle? You like Romney or do you think I was too hard on the LDS? Do you think he's a good politician? Fuck me that you Fuck Offed me

    So fans of Mitt Romney...got it
    You seem upset
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