An attempt to cut through the shit

creepycoug

So, before the usual suspects bleed through the morning tampon change, understand that I am VERY FUCKING ITCHY about getting the economy started again. I'm firmly entrenched in middle age and thus know nothing is a given. At any rate, I digress.

With my centrist credentials firmly established, I'd like to know this: just who wants to control us, and what does "control" mean? What's the actual, real, theory? I'm not interested in generalized references to "They" or "Global Elites" or "but Soros", or even "the government". Means nothing to me. Monkeys and stupid people can do that.

What is, say, Gates is up to? Trying to make more money? Really? Trying to rule the world? Through vaccines? What's the actual play here? Injected micro chips? WTF would he care about that? Spreading communism? He was a spy all this time?

Of course I know the government always wants more, and I pretty much dislike government, but WHAT IS THE FUCKING THEORY? Tell me who is meeting where and with whom and when and making assignments? And what is their end game? Are you saying that they planned this virus to soften us up? Or they're just taking advantage of the good fortune and running with it? Either way, for what purpose? What's coming next? Who would want to be heading this up? Is Trump involved?

What I'm getting at is, does anybody here who's currently ranting about Fauci (again, not my friend, so IDRGAF), Gates, the governors, who also allude to other sinister actors and plans, truly have inside intell? What is it? Where did you get it? Why can't I get it? Why do you know so much more than I about secretive organizations that want to do ....?.... bad shit to ...?... the people? I'm not exactly someone who tends to bury his head in the sand. And I'm not stupid. And I have access to the internet. And I can read. And I'm not wedded to political ideology.

Help a guy out. It's an honest question. I'm not pissed or annoyed at anybody. I just never know WTF half of your are talking about. I know government is incompetent. But a lot of Tug theorists make the government sound a lot more competent than I would have ever believed.

Pitchfork51

didnt read. want to bang the daughters. etc etc

creepycoug

Pitchfork51 said:

didnt read. want to bang the daughters. etc etc

stop talking to me!!!!!!!!!!!

UW_Doog_Bot

Newsom already told us this was an opportunity for Progressives to reshape the economy in a more equitable manner.

No grand conspiracy. Just same old same old statist/socialist gonna socialist.

It's not political though! It's Science!

GrundleStiltzkin

creepycoug said:

But a lot of Tug theorists make the government sound a lot more competent than I would have ever believed.

This right here is my burden of proof for any grand government led conspiracy.

MikeDamone

I don’t know anything about what you wrote (I only read 19% of it).

But I do know this is pretty common knowledge.

https://californiaglobe.com/section-2/gov-newsom-coronavirus-is-opportunity-for-reimagining-a-more-progressive-era/

creepycoug

UW_Doog_Bot said:

Newsom already told us this was an opportunity for Progressives to reshape the economy in a more equitable manner.

No grand conspiracy. Just same old same old statist/socialist gonna socialist.

It's not political though! It's Science!

Right, I get some far left leaning governor being an opportunist and popping off. But a lot of what I hear and read at least loosely implies broad and sophisticated coordination at the highest levels. And few are immune. Sure, Gates believes in vaccines. So do it. Maybe we're both wrong. But is he coordinating with others in secret to do more than push vaccines? Is it merely a pathway for him to exercise control? If so, why?

You gotta read the shit that's posted ... here and elsewhere. It strongly suggests a lot more than Newsom being a leftwing banana.

creepycoug

MikeDamone said:

I don’t know anything about what you wrote (I only read 19% of it).

But I do know this is pretty common knowledge.

https://californiaglobe.com/section-2/gov-newsom-coronavirus-is-opportunity-for-reimagining-a-more-progressive-era/

Yeah, @UW_Doog_Bot raised that. I'm looking for more than popping off, because people seem to be suggesting a lot more is going on than just political rhetoric or wishful thinking.

We've all known that there are politicians who want to see socialism. Doesn't mean broad, coordinated conspiracy with the WHO, Gates and Soros.

If only you'd read 23% of the post.

Bob_C

UW_Doog_Bot said:

Newsom already told us this was an opportunity for Progressives to reshape the economy in a more equitable manner.

No grand conspiracy. Just same old same old statist/socialist gonna socialist.

It's not political though! It's Science!

Yep it’s that. Opportunism.

MikeDamone

creepycoug said:

MikeDamone said:

I don’t know anything about what you wrote (I only read 19% of it).

But I do know this is pretty common knowledge.

https://californiaglobe.com/section-2/gov-newsom-coronavirus-is-opportunity-for-reimagining-a-more-progressive-era/

Yeah, @UW_Doog_Bot raised that. I'm looking for more than popping off, because people seem to be suggesting a lot more is going on than just political rhetoric or wishful thinking.

We've all known that there are politicians who want to see socialism. Doesn't mean broad, coordinated conspiracy with the WHO, Gates and Soros.

If only you'd read 23% of the post.

Who are the “some people” suggesting?

And I think it’s more than a far left governor popping off. We have 3 far left governors who share the same thoughts and will try to do as Newsome suggested.

UW_Doog_Bot

I thought we? were cutting through the shit? Are you attempting to talk to OBK and Sleddy in a rational discourse? Lulz

I think there's a lot less "sophisticated coordination" but a LOT MORE "guiding philosophy".

Look no further than our disjointed but monolithic Fed to see how even with disunity a shit ton of damage can be done when enough people think the state is the solution.

creepycoug

MikeDamone said:

creepycoug said:

MikeDamone said:

I don’t know anything about what you wrote (I only read 19% of it).

But I do know this is pretty common knowledge.

https://californiaglobe.com/section-2/gov-newsom-coronavirus-is-opportunity-for-reimagining-a-more-progressive-era/

Yeah, @UW_Doog_Bot raised that. I'm looking for more than popping off, because people seem to be suggesting a lot more is going on than just political rhetoric or wishful thinking.

We've all known that there are politicians who want to see socialism. Doesn't mean broad, coordinated conspiracy with the WHO, Gates and Soros.

If only you'd read 23% of the post.

Who are the “some people” suggesting?

And I think it’s more than a far left governor popping off. We have 3 far left governors who share the same thoughts and will try to do as Newsome suggested.

Well, I covered that somewhere after 23% and before 82% of my post.

I know there are several far left politicians. Doesn't get to what I read a lot of people either outright stating or implying.

I'm not talking about the headliner stuff. I'm talking about the fun stuff. The ubiquitous "they" stuff.

Fire_Marshall_Bill

As a centrist, but probably a different kind of one, I'm suspicious of all billionaires including Gaytes. They have way too much power and influence. Gaytes funds a good portion of the WHO.

I see governors arresting surfers and people in cars. Clear government overreach.

I also see huge corporate box stores like Costco, Ghetto Mart, Kroger stores, Home Depot etc. still going. Small businesses get the short end of the stick. They might get loans if they're lucky. It's funny how that works.

I see virtue signaling libtards get mad at "Wuhan Virus" and that label magically went away. They're following CCP propaganda because they're tards.

RaceBannon

Results matter more than motivation. At best and benign this is a massive public policy mistake unseen by me before

Once that happens a crisis will not go to waste

You have to admit there is an attachment to this that is bizarre. Let it fucking go

The people that fucked up are fine with calling everyone a tin foil hat wearing magatard. Takes the light off of a massive fuck up

Plenty of us here from day 1 said DON'T

There is no middle. The bootlicker authorities telling us to listen to experts need to be publicly beaten

See you in Aptos

NorthwestFresh

UW_Doog_Bot said:

Newsom already told us this was an opportunity for Progressives to reshape the economy in a more equitable manner.

No grand conspiracy. Just same old same old statist/socialist gonna socialist.

It's not political though! It's Science!

By more equitable, he meant bankrupt the private-sector poor and middle-class while the public union middle-class and rich elites continue to prosper.

RaceBannon

http://twitter.com/acampoflores/status/1257031928844345345?s=19

Bob_C

The coverup is always worse than the crime. Inslee, Newsome and the modelers fucked up, their motivation to have their actions justified seems more important than actually fixing their mistake. So they double down with more bad decisions to keep themselves relevant and right, hence the moving goalposts.

creepycoug

UW_Doog_Bot said:

I thought we? were cutting through the shit? Are you attempting to talk to OBK and Sleddy in a rational discourse? Lulz

I think there's a lot less "sophisticated coordination" but a LOT MORE "guiding philosophy".

Look no further than our disjointed but monolithic Fed to see how even with disunity a shit ton of damage can be done when enough people think the state is the solution.

Well, come on. The initial response was basically, "but leftist politicians". I know that. I wouldn't have posted War & Peace to that. And unless OBK and Sleddy (btw not really fair to Sleddy to lump him in with OBK) have multiple alt handles, they're not alone in thinking there's a lot going on beneath the surface.

Take the vaccines. As far as I can tell, that's not an issue that is automatically political. Sorry; feet taped to the pedals on that. People all over the spectrum have extreme views on that. But there's (what I assume to be rhetoric) that it's all part of some global take-over scheme. Not Bill Gates, a guy we? only ever used to hate because he didn't give a shit about UW football, is on equal footing with Soros, Killary, and the Heinz ketchup people. Or whatever.

I know you boot. You know exactly what I'm talking about here.

RaceBannon

The economy contracted by nearly 5 percent in the first quarter of 2020 due to the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak. The epicenter remains New York City and the greater tri-state area. The West and East Coasts remain the geographic hotspots, all of them with Democratic leaders. So, prior to the easing of the lockdowns, there were stories about rural hotspots popping up. That’s fake news. We’ve entered a period of red-state shaming, with an odious and disgusting narrative that rural states easing their COVID restrictions will get people killed. Worse is the accompanying swipe that the media thinks these people in these states want others to die. We’ve also heard that easing restrictions means you want to kill black people, who have been disproportionately affected by this virus; it’s a mess. And they’re all wrong.

creepycoug

RaceBannon said:

Results matter more than motivation. At best and benign this is a massive public policy mistake unseen by me before

Once that happens a crisis will not go to waste

You have to admit there is an attachment to this that is bizarre. Let it fucking go

The people that fucked up are fine with calling everyone a tin foil hat wearing magatard. Takes the light off of a massive fuck up

Plenty of us here from day 1 said DON'T

There is no middle. The bootlicker authorities telling us to listen to experts need to be publicly beaten

See you in Aptos

This is my point. I assume when I wake up in the morning that THAT is what I'm dealing with. And yet I'm surrounded, here and in real life, with people who think it's much, much, much more sinister and coordinated than that.

And I know every single one of you knows exactly to what I'm referring. THAT is what I'm wanting to get a little more flesh on the bone about.

RaceBannon

creepycoug said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

I thought we? were cutting through the shit? Are you attempting to talk to OBK and Sleddy in a rational discourse? Lulz

I think there's a lot less "sophisticated coordination" but a LOT MORE "guiding philosophy".

Look no further than our disjointed but monolithic Fed to see how even with disunity a shit ton of damage can be done when enough people think the state is the solution.

Well, come on. The initial response was basically, "but leftist politicians". I know that. I wouldn't have posted War & Peace to that. And unless OBK and Sleddy (btw not really fair to Sleddy to lump him in with OBK) have multiple alt handles, they're not alone in thinking there's a lot going on beneath the surface.

Take the vaccines. As far as I can tell, that's not an issue that is automatically political. Sorry; feet taped to the pedals on that. People all over the spectrum have extreme views on that. But there's (what I assume to be rhetoric) that it's all part of some global take-over scheme. Not Bill Gates, a guy we? only ever used to hate because he didn't give a shit about UW football, is on equal footing with Soros, Killary, and the Heinz ketchup people. Or whatever.

I know you boot. You know exactly what I'm talking about here.

The governor gang made it clear it was there call. Why wouldn't they get the blame?

It's been clear that they were wrong for awhile now yet they kept adding restrictions

Why don't you justify that?