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An attempt to cut through the shit
creepycoug
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So, before the usual suspects bleed through the morning tampon change, understand that I am VERY FUCKING ITCHY about getting the economy started again. I'm firmly entrenched in middle age and thus know nothing is a given. At any rate, I digress.
With my centrist credentials firmly established, I'd like to know this: just who wants to control us, and what does "control" mean? What's the actual, real, theory? I'm not interested in generalized references to "They" or "Global Elites" or "but Soros", or even "the government". Means nothing to me. Monkeys and stupid people can do that.
What is, say, Gates is up to? Trying to make more money? Really? Trying to rule the world? Through vaccines? What's the actual play here? Injected micro chips? WTF would he care about that? Spreading communism? He was a spy all this time?
Of course I know the government always wants more, and I pretty much dislike government, but WHAT IS THE FUCKING THEORY? Tell me who is meeting where and with whom and when and making assignments? And what is their end game? Are you saying that they planned this virus to soften us up? Or they're just taking advantage of the good fortune and running with it? Either way, for what purpose? What's coming next? Who would want to be heading this up? Is Trump involved?
What I'm getting at is, does anybody here who's currently ranting about Fauci (again, not my friend, so IDRGAF), Gates, the governors, who also allude to other sinister actors and plans, truly have inside intell? What is it? Where did you get it? Why can't I get it? Why do you know so much more than I about secretive organizations that want to do ....?.... bad shit to ...?... the people? I'm not exactly someone who tends to bury his head in the sand. And I'm not stupid. And I have access to the internet. And I can read. And I'm not wedded to political ideology.
Help a guy out. It's an honest question. I'm not pissed or annoyed at anybody. I just never know WTF half of your are talking about. I know government is incompetent. But a lot of Tug theorists make the government sound a lot more competent than I would have ever believed.
With my centrist credentials firmly established, I'd like to know this: just who wants to control us, and what does "control" mean? What's the actual, real, theory? I'm not interested in generalized references to "They" or "Global Elites" or "but Soros", or even "the government". Means nothing to me. Monkeys and stupid people can do that.
What is, say, Gates is up to? Trying to make more money? Really? Trying to rule the world? Through vaccines? What's the actual play here? Injected micro chips? WTF would he care about that? Spreading communism? He was a spy all this time?
Of course I know the government always wants more, and I pretty much dislike government, but WHAT IS THE FUCKING THEORY? Tell me who is meeting where and with whom and when and making assignments? And what is their end game? Are you saying that they planned this virus to soften us up? Or they're just taking advantage of the good fortune and running with it? Either way, for what purpose? What's coming next? Who would want to be heading this up? Is Trump involved?
What I'm getting at is, does anybody here who's currently ranting about Fauci (again, not my friend, so IDRGAF), Gates, the governors, who also allude to other sinister actors and plans, truly have inside intell? What is it? Where did you get it? Why can't I get it? Why do you know so much more than I about secretive organizations that want to do ....?.... bad shit to ...?... the people? I'm not exactly someone who tends to bury his head in the sand. And I'm not stupid. And I have access to the internet. And I can read. And I'm not wedded to political ideology.
Help a guy out. It's an honest question. I'm not pissed or annoyed at anybody. I just never know WTF half of your are talking about. I know government is incompetent. But a lot of Tug theorists make the government sound a lot more competent than I would have ever believed.
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didnt read. want to bang the daughters. etc etc
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stop talking to me!!!!!!!!!!!Pitchfork51 said:didnt read. want to bang the daughters. etc etc
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Newsom already told us this was an opportunity for Progressives to reshape the economy in a more equitable manner.
No grand conspiracy. Just same old same old statist/socialist gonna socialist.
It's not political though! It's Science! -
This right here is my burden of proof for any grand government led conspiracy.creepycoug said:But a lot of Tug theorists make the government sound a lot more competent than I would have ever believed.
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I don’t know anything about what you wrote (I only read 19% of it).
But I do know this is pretty common knowledge.
https://californiaglobe.com/section-2/gov-newsom-coronavirus-is-opportunity-for-reimagining-a-more-progressive-era/ -
Right, I get some far left leaning governor being an opportunist and popping off. But a lot of what I hear and read at least loosely implies broad and sophisticated coordination at the highest levels. And few are immune. Sure, Gates believes in vaccines. So do it. Maybe we're both wrong. But is he coordinating with others in secret to do more than push vaccines? Is it merely a pathway for him to exercise control? If so, why?UW_Doog_Bot said:Newsom already told us this was an opportunity for Progressives to reshape the economy in a more equitable manner.
No grand conspiracy. Just same old same old statist/socialist gonna socialist.
It's not political though! It's Science!
You gotta read the shit that's posted ... here and elsewhere. It strongly suggests a lot more than Newsom being a leftwing banana. -
Yeah, @UW_Doog_Bot raised that. I'm looking for more than popping off, because people seem to be suggesting a lot more is going on than just political rhetoric or wishful thinking.MikeDamone said:I don’t know anything about what you wrote (I only read 19% of it).
But I do know this is pretty common knowledge.
https://californiaglobe.com/section-2/gov-newsom-coronavirus-is-opportunity-for-reimagining-a-more-progressive-era/
We've all known that there are politicians who want to see socialism. Doesn't mean broad, coordinated conspiracy with the WHO, Gates and Soros.
If only you'd read 23% of the post. -
Yep it’s that. Opportunism.UW_Doog_Bot said:Newsom already told us this was an opportunity for Progressives to reshape the economy in a more equitable manner.
No grand conspiracy. Just same old same old statist/socialist gonna socialist.
It's not political though! It's Science!
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Who are the “some people” suggesting?creepycoug said:
Yeah, @UW_Doog_Bot raised that. I'm looking for more than popping off, because people seem to be suggesting a lot more is going on than just political rhetoric or wishful thinking.MikeDamone said:I don’t know anything about what you wrote (I only read 19% of it).
But I do know this is pretty common knowledge.
https://californiaglobe.com/section-2/gov-newsom-coronavirus-is-opportunity-for-reimagining-a-more-progressive-era/
We've all known that there are politicians who want to see socialism. Doesn't mean broad, coordinated conspiracy with the WHO, Gates and Soros.
If only you'd read 23% of the post.
And I think it’s more than a far left governor popping off. We have 3 far left governors who share the same thoughts and will try to do as Newsome suggested. -
I thought we? were cutting through the shit? Are you attempting to talk to OBK and Sleddy in a rational discourse? Lulz
I think there's a lot less "sophisticated coordination" but a LOT MORE "guiding philosophy".
Look no further than our disjointed but monolithic Fed to see how even with disunity a shit ton of damage can be done when enough people think the state is the solution.
