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An attempt to cut through the shit

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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 13,934
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    The poor olds are liberals. But the olds are the wealthiest segment of Americans. Just don't phuck with the social security and medicare of the wealthy olds.
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    ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
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    salemcoog said:

    @salemcoog

    So, you're saying, I think, benign intent in the beginning, but now the bold move of obliterating the economy and threatening to blow up our society to de-steam Trump. The one thing that doesn't jibe with the theory is the idea that it's an assumption that a blown-up economy is Trump's fault. I mean, this shut-down isn't just a detail. I would think it more likely he'd be evaluated on how he handled this, and not because the economy tanked. But I'm not a good November prognosticator.

    I believed wet market and I believed lab. Why would I disbelieve either? On purpose? That takes me to bold move territory. Even the fucking Chinese should know better ... you don't know what you're doing when you do something like that.

    While this is truly the hive of scum and villainy, it also the hive of the dialed in. For better or worse. I do have a FB and Twitter account and it has enlightened me to the utter stupidity and easy manipulation of about 81% of our populace. The average person couldn’t tell you how many deaths or cases that they have in their state without looking it up. They only go by what they see in the horrors of New York and still believe that it could happen here in a state with 110 deaths from 1st case In February. They watch MSM death counts on TV and buy into their narrative that it’s Trumps fault with hardly any acknowledgement of China’s role.

    Both Inslee and Newsom have Presidential aspirations for the future. And to get there, you have to pay tribute to the powers that be. And today that is the Tech Billionaires whom wish to see Globalization and carbon neutrality. And they wish to see it now. To my point. I don’t remember Health care overhaul as being a major point of Obama’s ‘08 campaign. Just more a talking point of many. But the very first thing He did was get Obamacare in motion, even before He was sworn in. That was the tribute.

    Trump never paid anyone any tribute. Sure He’s taken care of his buddies like all Presidents do. But He won despite the power behind the power. Not because of it.

    Most of the common folks have no clue about basic Economics and don’t care as long as their check is coming. The common trope you will get from a stranger on a news story comment section is “Please list all of the loved ones that you are willing to sacrifice”if you dare to list the real facts about covid and why it’s time to open up and the now almost irreversible economic damage it has done.

    The Mesmerization of the simple minded will be the fall of the greatest country in the world.

    System of a Down was right.
    Unrelated, I’m willing to lose most of my older “loved ones” if it means my kids aren’t set back 10 years as their parents try and recover. My olds are mostly liberals, anyhow. Fuck them and just die already.
    But HOW are you a loser?
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,749
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    My wife lost her 4 day a week job meaning we are spending way too much time together.

    The argument over how long to run the sprinklers we had this morning was special

    My wife had just started her "keep her busy /self-esteem/leave the girls alone" job when this hit, and they moved her to part-tim. I've been home since late Feb/early March ... I've lost track of tim. It is nice when she wheels out of here for that little four-hour block
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    Remember when terrorists killed 3000 Americans and certain people were cheerleaders for government's powers being expanded and our ways of life being changed because if we didn't, tens of thousands more were going to die?

    Yeah, I do.

    It's strange that they're singing a different tune today about the same game being played.

    And here we are now, with the Patriot Act in full effect AND locked down to "keep us safe". It's like Americans couldn't be any dumber.

    Come at me bro

    Why is the patriot act still in effect anyway? Lot of people changed their mind on it. They still have opinions

    When did the Patriot Act shut down the economy anyway and how did I miss that?

    Do better. Admit you were wrong. I did
    If you were the target I would have named you.

    I'll admit I'm wrong when I am. I was wrong about big dick Eason, and was the first to admit it.

    I didn't recommend shutting down the economy, I haven't missed a day of work or a bill that needed to be paid, and if it was up to me, neither the Patriot Act nor this shitshow would have taken place. Don't let your guilty feelings cloud your memory about what happened in both cases.

    The Patriot Act didn't shut down the economy, and I didn't claim it did. It did, however, change lots of things about how we carry out daily life, give the government greater powers, and there was no excuse for passing it other than being a bunch of scared pussies - just like we're doing now.

    Don't try to pin this shit on me. I'm a past-50 type 1 diabetic and I'm not thrilled about being exposed to some virus like this, but I'm no candy-ass socialist fuck, so I go to work and pay the bills. I'm also not retarded so I did notice all the lovers of expanding the government's powers under the Patriot Act are now not so trusting of the government. It's the same government, you guys are just calling it the "Deep State" now.

    That's about all I have to say about it. I think you're cool, Race, even if we square off on certain points. We aren't miles from each other on the spectrum, it just seems like that from time to time. I don't want you to get covid and die, but I don't want you going broke to make sure people are "safe", either. Life isn't "safe". If you aren't OK with that, you should kill yourself now.
    I wouldn’t say you just popped in and admitted it....you had some help.
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    dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,221
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    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    Remember when terrorists killed 3000 Americans and certain people were cheerleaders for government's powers being expanded and our ways of life being changed because if we didn't, tens of thousands more were going to die?

    Yeah, I do.

    It's strange that they're singing a different tune today about the same game being played.

    And here we are now, with the Patriot Act in full effect AND locked down to "keep us safe". It's like Americans couldn't be any dumber.

    Come at me bro

    Why is the patriot act still in effect anyway? Lot of people changed their mind on it. They still have opinions

    When did the Patriot Act shut down the economy anyway and how did I miss that?

    Do better. Admit you were wrong. I did
    If you were the target I would have named you.

    I'll admit I'm wrong when I am. I was wrong about big dick Eason, and was the first to admit it.

    I didn't recommend shutting down the economy, I haven't missed a day of work or a bill that needed to be paid, and if it was up to me, neither the Patriot Act nor this shitshow would have taken place. Don't let your guilty feelings cloud your memory about what happened in both cases.

    The Patriot Act didn't shut down the economy, and I didn't claim it did. It did, however, change lots of things about how we carry out daily life, give the government greater powers, and there was no excuse for passing it other than being a bunch of scared pussies - just like we're doing now.

    Don't try to pin this shit on me. I'm a past-50 type 1 diabetic and I'm not thrilled about being exposed to some virus like this, but I'm no candy-ass socialist fuck, so I go to work and pay the bills. I'm also not retarded so I did notice all the lovers of expanding the government's powers under the Patriot Act are now not so trusting of the government. It's the same government, you guys are just calling it the "Deep State" now.

    That's about all I have to say about it. I think you're cool, Race, even if we square off on certain points. We aren't miles from each other on the spectrum, it just seems like that from time to time. I don't want you to get covid and die, but I don't want you going broke to make sure people are "safe", either. Life isn't "safe". If you aren't OK with that, you should kill yourself now.
    I wouldn’t say you just popped in and admitted it....you had some help.
    You are always there for a reminder, Mike. It's always much appreciated, too.
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    doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
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    My wife lost her 4 day a week job meaning we are spending way too much time together.

    The argument over how long to run the sprinklers we had this morning was special

    When you casually explained the eco-advantages and Cost savings of hand watering and reminded her of all her free time, what did she say?

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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,832
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    So, before the usual suspects bleed through the morning tampon change, understand that I am VERY FUCKING ITCHY about getting the economy started again. I'm firmly entrenched in middle age and thus know nothing is a given. At any rate, I digress.

    With my centrist credentials firmly established, I'd like to know this: just who wants to control us, and what does "control" mean? What's the actual, real, theory? I'm not interested in generalized references to "They" or "Global Elites" or "but Soros", or even "the government". Means nothing to me. Monkeys and stupid people can do that.

    What is, say, Gates is up to? Trying to make more money? Really? Trying to rule the world? Through vaccines? What's the actual play here? Injected micro chips? WTF would he care about that? Spreading communism? He was a spy all this time?

    Of course I know the government always wants more, and I pretty much dislike government, but WHAT IS THE FUCKING THEORY? Tell me who is meeting where and with whom and when and making assignments? And what is their end game? Are you saying that they planned this virus to soften us up? Or they're just taking advantage of the good fortune and running with it? Either way, for what purpose? What's coming next? Who would want to be heading this up? Is Trump involved?

    What I'm getting at is, does anybody here who's currently ranting about Fauci (again, not my friend, so IDRGAF), Gates, the governors, who also allude to other sinister actors and plans, truly have inside intell? What is it? Where did you get it? Why can't I get it? Why do you know so much more than I about secretive organizations that want to do ....?.... bad shit to ...?... the people? I'm not exactly someone who tends to bury his head in the sand. And I'm not stupid. And I have access to the internet. And I can read. And I'm not wedded to political ideology.

    Help a guy out. It's an honest question. I'm not pissed or annoyed at anybody. I just never know WTF half of your are talking about. I know government is incompetent. But a lot of Tug theorists make the government sound a lot more competent than I would have ever believed.

    Call it what you want but the people with the money want the control. They buy politicians and influence political push all over the world. Look up the Bilderberg group: The Bilderberg meeting is an annual conference established in 1954 to foster dialogue between Europe and North America. The group’s agenda, originally to prevent another world war, is now defined as bolstering a consensus around free market Western capitalism and its interests around the globe. Participants include political leaders, experts from industry, finance, academia, and the media, numbering between 120 and 150. or Davos: The World Economic Forum in Davos-Klosters, Switzerland. The non-profit organization's aim is to "engage the foremost political, business, cultural and other leaders of society to shape global, regional and industry agendas," according to its website.

    Some call it the deep state some call it the Cabal or one world government movement. It includes political leaders although they are just chattel.

    We see it in our government as taxpayer money going out to private industry and certain organizations like Planned Parenthood and then flowing back to those in power that pushed it through. If Planned Parenthood needs 500 million in government funding how do they "afford" to donate millions to the the DNC and it's causes? Or Obama's sweet book and Netflix deals. The book deal is pretty open look it up. Same with Ukraine we send aide to these countries and the money comes back to those in power a' la Hunter Biden or the other senators whose kids are working at Ukraine energy companies in the same fashion. Quid pro quo baby! Uranium One folks dropping 125 million into the Clinton foundation etc. Other politicians and leaders from other countries do the same.

    Organized crime is really the proper definition. Both political parties do it, one sides just a lot better at it and more open.

    The duck analogy works pretty well. Follow thew money!

    As far as Gates I personally think he's nuts. His daddy was a eugenicist and he believes that shit! Saw a video of him answering questions on video in a deposition. He is not all there!




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