RFK Jr is the face of the anti-vaxx quack movement, which I'm sure @Sledog is a card carrying member of. It's not surprising that he'd then take aim at Gates.
No question RFK Jr is an absolute nut-job, but he's got a point on some of this. You don't have to be an anti-vaxxer to point out some of the vaccination policies Gates and company have been pushing on the 3rd world have been absolutely horrible, or for that matter pointing out that while vaccinations as a whole have been incredibly beneficial for society as a whole they are still not a perfect science and that they are not a 100% known quantity.
And lets just say its not a shocker Gates seems to have memory lapses about his time with Epstein before Epstein didn't kill himself...
RFK Jr is the face of the anti-vaxx quack movement, which I'm sure @Sledog is a card carrying member of. It's not surprising that he'd then take aim at Gates.
As for me, if you don't want to vax your kids, that's fine. But when they get measles or diptheria or any of a number of other childhood illnesses, please to not be taking them to the hospital and axing for assistance. The rest of us have opted to follow generally accepted science and don't want to pay for your uninsured ass when you drag your kid into ER for treatment.
And if you want to keep them out of the public schools (assuming they re-open), feel free to home-school them and request a refund on your property taxes for the portion allocated toward education.
Seems reasonable - you want to get edjumacated, you get vaccinated and pay your tax bill. You don't want to get vaccinated and/or pay your tax bill, GTFO.
Sadly, there are many anti-vaxers in my extended social circle, which must say something about me. 99.99999% of them are under-educated moms (by 'undereducated' I mean attended "check the box" university, took a "check the box" course of study, and still think having been in a sorority gave them an exclusive and elite college experience, even at Cuog).
I've noticed they are not super vocal these days.
I don't care what a person believes as long as they have some fucking basis for it, and either hold strong even when it's not convenient or have the sack to admit they might not have known what they were talking about before.
Literally every one I know who hold those beliefs tie it to some anecdote involving a person they don't know telling a story about their kid, or some "expert" who may or may not have attended Harvard and who is not recognized by his colleagues as knowing what he's talking about. Science.
My contacts, most of whom are employed by or connected to UW's vaunted and world-class school of public health and epidemiology, shake their heads at what they consider the hubris of reading shit literature and making health decisions accordingly. The one they bring up the most in conversation is the mistake of skipping the Gardasil vaccine for cervical cancer. The conversation goes that cervical cancer has been a huge killer of women historically, and this vaccine absolutely works to prevent it. It is, apparently, a particularly pernicious type of cancer with a 50/50 chance you'll be dead in 5.
Of course they're not perfect, and of course picking populations with which to play Dr. Mengele is immoral.
RFK Jr is the face of the anti-vaxx quack movement, which I'm sure @Sledog is a card carrying member of. It's not surprising that he'd then take aim at Gates.
I'm not an anti vaxer but having seen video of Gates giving speeches and hearing what he says he fully intends to do as he says. Why wouldn't I believe him?
RFK Jr is the face of the anti-vaxx quack movement, which I'm sure @Sledog is a card carrying member of. It's not surprising that he'd then take aim at Gates.
I'm not an anti vaxer but having seen video of Gates giving speeches and hearing what he says he fully intends to do as he says. Why wouldn't I believe him?
Now fuck off!
Bill Gates has more money than he'll ever know what to do with, so this narrative that he's trying to prop up some pharma company with ulterior motives smacks as unlikely to me. He may well be doing that, but I'm inclined to believe it's because he believes that vaccines are important. He literally has zero other reason to do it. And Gates is not a "take over the world" kind of person. The guy could buy several islands, stock them up and tell the world to fuck off and he and his kids would be fine for the rest of their lives.
Gates believes that the world is connected in some ways, whether we like it or not. I honestly believe the guy has been afraid for years of exactly what's going on right now.
You can question him on the margin here and there, just like anybody. But "scum"? I don't think that's a deserved tag as applied to Bill.
RFK Jr is the face of the anti-vaxx quack movement, which I'm sure @Sledog is a card carrying member of. It's not surprising that he'd then take aim at Gates.
I'm not an anti vaxer but having seen video of Gates giving speeches and hearing what he says he fully intends to do as he says. Why wouldn't I believe him?
Now fuck off!
Bill Gates has more money than he'll ever know what to do with, so this narrative that he's trying to prop up some pharma company with ulterior motives smacks as unlikely to me. He may well be doing that, but I'm inclined to believe it's because he believes that vaccines are important. He literally has zero other reason to do it. And Gates is not a "take over the world" kind of person. The guy could buy several islands, stock them up and tell the world to fuck off and he and his kids would be fine for the rest of their lives.
Gates believes that the world is connected in some ways, whether we like it or not. I honestly believe the guy has been afraid for years of exactly what's going on right now.
You can question him on the margin here and there, just like anybody. But "scum"? I don't think that's a deserved tag as applied to Bill.
RFK Jr is the face of the anti-vaxx quack movement, which I'm sure @Sledog is a card carrying member of. It's not surprising that he'd then take aim at Gates.
I'm not an anti vaxer but having seen video of Gates giving speeches and hearing what he says he fully intends to do as he says. Why wouldn't I believe him?
Now fuck off!
What does he intend to do that has you so shaken and about to vomit?
RFK Jr is the face of the anti-vaxx quack movement, which I'm sure @Sledog is a card carrying member of. It's not surprising that he'd then take aim at Gates.
I'm not an anti vaxer but having seen video of Gates giving speeches and hearing what he says he fully intends to do as he says. Why wouldn't I believe him?
Now fuck off!
What does he intend to do that has you so shaken and about to vomit?
Search for yourself. It's been some time and finding it would take more time than I'll invest in you. If it is even still out there.
RFK Jr is the face of the anti-vaxx quack movement, which I'm sure @Sledog is a card carrying member of. It's not surprising that he'd then take aim at Gates.
I'm not an anti vaxer but having seen video of Gates giving speeches and hearing what he says he fully intends to do as he says. Why wouldn't I believe him?
Now fuck off!
What does he intend to do that has you so shaken and about to vomit?
Search for yourself. It's been some time and finding it would take more time than I'll invest in you. If it is even still out there.
Sadly, there are many anti-vaxers in my extended social circle, which must say something about me. 99.99999% of them are under-educated moms (by 'undereducated' I mean attended "check the box" university, took a "check the box" course of study, and still think having been in a sorority gave them an exclusive and elite college experience, even at Cuog).
I've noticed they are not super vocal these days.
I don't care what a person believes as long as they have some fucking basis for it, and either hold strong even when it's not convenient or have the sack to admit they might not have known what they were talking about before.
Literally every one I know who hold those beliefs tie it to some anecdote involving a person they don't know telling a story about their kid, or some "expert" who may or may not have attended Harvard and who is not recognized by his colleagues as knowing what he's talking about. Science.
My contacts, most of whom are employed by or connected to UW's vaunted and world-class school of public health and epidemiology, shake their heads at what they consider the hubris of reading shit literature and making health decisions accordingly. The one they bring up the most in conversation is the mistake of skipping the Gardasil vaccine for cervical cancer. The conversation goes that cervical cancer has been a huge killer of women historically, and this vaccine absolutely works to prevent it. It is, apparently, a particularly pernicious type of cancer with a 50/50 chance you'll be dead in 5.
Of course they're not perfect, and of course picking populations with which to play Dr. Mengele is immoral.
The Anti-Vaxxers will always have the Dairy industry to screech about and keep them busy tellings us all how immoral we are for consuming it, because, as I recently learned, Dairy is Racist and Oppressive.
I shit you not. Nothing like a bunch of white former athletes reminding me that my existence itself is racist.
RFK Jr is the face of the anti-vaxx quack movement, which I'm sure @Sledog is a card carrying member of. It's not surprising that he'd then take aim at Gates.
I'm not an anti vaxer but having seen video of Gates giving speeches and hearing what he says he fully intends to do as he says. Why wouldn't I believe him?
Now fuck off!
What does he intend to do that has you so shaken and about to vomit?
Search for yourself. It's been some time and finding it would take more time than I'll invest in you. If it is even still out there.
Sounds tantalizing
I think these are really healthy discussions. I too don't understand the Gates conspiracy theories but I also want to know what's so concerning to people. I have watched a couple videos but have seen or heard nothing that convinces me he's Satan trying to make us bear the mark of the beast.
RFK Jr is the face of the anti-vaxx quack movement, which I'm sure @Sledog is a card carrying member of. It's not surprising that he'd then take aim at Gates.
I'm not an anti vaxer but having seen video of Gates giving speeches and hearing what he says he fully intends to do as he says. Why wouldn't I believe him?
Now fuck off!
Bill Gates has more money than he'll ever know what to do with, so this narrative that he's trying to prop up some pharma company with ulterior motives smacks as unlikely to me. He may well be doing that, but I'm inclined to believe it's because he believes that vaccines are important. He literally has zero other reason to do it. And Gates is not a "take over the world" kind of person. The guy could buy several islands, stock them up and tell the world to fuck off and he and his kids would be fine for the rest of their lives.
Gates believes that the world is connected in some ways, whether we like it or not. I honestly believe the guy has been afraid for years of exactly what's going on right now.
You can question him on the margin here and there, just like anybody. But "scum"? I don't think that's a deserved tag as applied to Bill.
RFK Jr is the face of the anti-vaxx quack movement, which I'm sure @Sledog is a card carrying member of. It's not surprising that he'd then take aim at Gates.
I'm not an anti vaxer but having seen video of Gates giving speeches and hearing what he says he fully intends to do as he says. Why wouldn't I believe him?
Now fuck off!
What does he intend to do that has you so shaken and about to vomit?
Search for yourself. It's been some time and finding it would take more time than I'll invest in you. If it is even still out there.
Sounds tantalizing
I think these are really healthy discussions. I too don't understand the Gates conspiracy theories but I also want to know what's so concerning to people. I have watched a couple videos but have seen or heard nothing that convinces me he's Satan trying to make us bear the mark of the beast.
Exactly. I am more than willing to concede there are a lot of ill-motivated people out there operating under a guise of benevolent concern.
Gates is someone who could have taken his ball and gone home 30 years ago. If he had interest in political office, he could have done that too by now. There isn't much the guy couldn't do. Until I've been given some proof to the contrary, I'm going to assume he is what I can see him to be: an intellectual, somewhat quirky, very wealthy guy who doesn't get swept into the latest hysteria, but rather plays the cards he wants to play. We can all second guess the things on which he chooses to spend his time, energy & $$, but he's hardly shown himself to be some kind of devil. And as they go, education and eliminating malaria and typhoid in the 4th world seems like good ideas. Because as we've discovered lately, we share the planet with people who eat fruit bat soup (google it; entire bats, wings and all ... it's fucking gross), and people are going to travel.
I have a long list of people I'd want to see play in traffic before I get to Gates.
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And lets just say its not a shocker Gates seems to have memory lapses about his time with Epstein before Epstein didn't kill himself...
And if you want to keep them out of the public schools (assuming they re-open), feel free to home-school them and request a refund on your property taxes for the portion allocated toward education.
Seems reasonable - you want to get edjumacated, you get vaccinated and pay your tax bill. You don't want to get vaccinated and/or pay your tax bill, GTFO.
Sadly, there are many anti-vaxers in my extended social circle, which must say something about me. 99.99999% of them are under-educated moms (by 'undereducated' I mean attended "check the box" university, took a "check the box" course of study, and still think having been in a sorority gave them an exclusive and elite college experience, even at Cuog).
I've noticed they are not super vocal these days.
I don't care what a person believes as long as they have some fucking basis for it, and either hold strong even when it's not convenient or have the sack to admit they might not have known what they were talking about before.
Literally every one I know who hold those beliefs tie it to some anecdote involving a person they don't know telling a story about their kid, or some "expert" who may or may not have attended Harvard and who is not recognized by his colleagues as knowing what he's talking about. Science.
My contacts, most of whom are employed by or connected to UW's vaunted and world-class school of public health and epidemiology, shake their heads at what they consider the hubris of reading shit literature and making health decisions accordingly. The one they bring up the most in conversation is the mistake of skipping the Gardasil vaccine for cervical cancer. The conversation goes that cervical cancer has been a huge killer of women historically, and this vaccine absolutely works to prevent it. It is, apparently, a particularly pernicious type of cancer with a 50/50 chance you'll be dead in 5.
Of course they're not perfect, and of course picking populations with which to play Dr. Mengele is immoral.
Now fuck off!
Gates believes that the world is connected in some ways, whether we like it or not. I honestly believe the guy has been afraid for years of exactly what's going on right now.
You can question him on the margin here and there, just like anybody. But "scum"? I don't think that's a deserved tag as applied to Bill.
I shit you not. Nothing like a bunch of white former athletes reminding me that my existence itself is racist.
That's a quote from it. How would vaccines lower population? Wouldn't they increase it by preventing death?
Come to your own conclusion.
It's from a TED talk on global warming IIRC.
Gates is someone who could have taken his ball and gone home 30 years ago. If he had interest in political office, he could have done that too by now. There isn't much the guy couldn't do. Until I've been given some proof to the contrary, I'm going to assume he is what I can see him to be: an intellectual, somewhat quirky, very wealthy guy who doesn't get swept into the latest hysteria, but rather plays the cards he wants to play. We can all second guess the things on which he chooses to spend his time, energy & $$, but he's hardly shown himself to be some kind of devil. And as they go, education and eliminating malaria and typhoid in the 4th world seems like good ideas. Because as we've discovered lately, we share the planet with people who eat fruit bat soup (google it; entire bats, wings and all ... it's fucking gross), and people are going to travel.
I have a long list of people I'd want to see play in traffic before I get to Gates.