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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,725 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    So, you’re gonna shoot them?

    I don’t live in RI. If I did they wouldn’t get my info without a warrant. Then we’d go from there.
    Just to be clear, shooting them is still on the table?
    Damone doesn't own guns.
    So, no?
    What if they come to where you are too drag you off? You have all the answers.
    Why would that happen?
    No answers, I thought so.
    I’m still waiting for the reason this would happen. This is your hypothetical fantasy, not mine.
    They come to my house and ask for ID. I ask for what and they say to verify my residence. I tell them they need a warrant. They disagree. I say come back with a warrant or leave. They drag me off.
    Gay. Fight for your rights.
    This is a hill i would die on. No crime, no warrant. Kiss my ass. We have a problem.
    Get to the store. They are still an essential bidness.
    Already did. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll have my Ruger 9mm in 8 more days. I have my shotgun in hand. Working on getting an AR15 as we speak.


    Damone no longer has no guns. Thanks Trump.

    Fuck off
    Missed this tidbit!
  • SECDAWG
    SECDAWG Member Posts: 5,004


    And high capacity magazines.


    R.I. National Guard will be going door-to-door in seaside communities looking for New Yorkers, collecting their personal information and ordering them to quarantine.

    “We will be targeting those homes where people have come from New York,” she said.

    https://www.wpri.com/health/coronavirus/march-27-ri-coronavirus-update/

    2A protects 4A

    Trying to get my head wrapped around this. “We will be targeting those homes where people have come from New York”...

    Is that for Coronavirus or Guns???

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,725 Standard Supporter
    SECDAWG said:


    And high capacity magazines.


    R.I. National Guard will be going door-to-door in seaside communities looking for New Yorkers, collecting their personal information and ordering them to quarantine.

    “We will be targeting those homes where people have come from New York,” she said.

    https://www.wpri.com/health/coronavirus/march-27-ri-coronavirus-update/

    2A protects 4A

    Trying to get my head wrapped around this. “We will be targeting those homes where people have come from New York”...

    Is that for Coronavirus or Guns???

    Obviously the virus as guns aren't allowed in New York. Not America!
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    edited March 2020

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    So, you’re gonna shoot them?

    I don’t live in RI. If I did they wouldn’t get my info without a warrant. Then we’d go from there.
    Just to be clear, shooting them is still on the table?
    Damone doesn't own guns.
    So, no?
    What if they come to where you are too drag you off? You have all the answers.
    Why would that happen?
    No answers, I thought so.
    I’m still waiting for the reason this would happen. This is your hypothetical fantasy, not mine.
    They come to my house and ask for ID. I ask for what and they say to verify my residence. I tell them they need a warrant. They disagree. I say come back with a warrant or leave. They drag me off.
    When during that conversation do you pull out your strap and lay them bustas down?
    That would be sometime before I had a meltdown on a football message over my family members in the military who were going to die because trump killed a terrorist. That was an awesome bitch evening you had there.
    Weird non-sequitor.

    Playing the Bob playbook is beneath you. Allegedly.
    So your strap comment was so above board. Go fuck yourself.

    We have a constitution and a process. I'd plan to follow. If others choose not to that's their issue
    It’s a song lyric, and relevant to the discussion of guns. Try to follow along. This is why I started a new thread..,
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    So, you’re gonna shoot them?

    I don’t live in RI. If I did they wouldn’t get my info without a warrant. Then we’d go from there.
    Just to be clear, shooting them is still on the table?
    Damone doesn't own guns.
    So, no?
    What if they come to where you are too drag you off? You have all the answers.
    Why would that happen?
    No answers, I thought so.
    I’m still waiting for the reason this would happen. This is your hypothetical fantasy, not mine.
    They come to my house and ask for ID. I ask for what and they say to verify my residence. I tell them they need a warrant. They disagree. I say come back with a warrant or leave. They drag me off.
    When during that conversation do you pull out your strap and lay them bustas down?
    That would be sometime before I had a meltdown on a football message over my family members in the military who were going to die because trump killed a terrorist. That was an awesome bitch evening you had there.
    Weird non-sequitor.

    Playing the Bob playbook is beneath you. Allegedly.
    So your strap comment was so above board. Go fuck yourself.

    We have a constitution and a process. I'd plan to follow. If others choose not to that's their issue
    It’s a song lyric, and relevant to the discussion of guns. Try to follow along. This is why I started a new thread..,
    Here we go......
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,061 Founders Club
    Whole lot of new 2A supporters after this.

    My guns are for the mob right now. I've already lived through 2 riots.

    Last I checked we still do have rule of law. Not yet time for armed insurgency and shooting it out with the police.

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,725 Standard Supporter

    Whole lot of new 2A supporters after this.

    My guns are for the mob right now. I've already lived through 2 riots.

    Last I checked we still do have rule of law. Not yet time for armed insurgency and shooting it out with the police.

    I've been to one riot and was out for round two but they chickened out.

    Not many worries where I'm at. Unless there's no food....
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,237 Founders Club

    Whole lot of new 2A supporters after this.

    My guns are for the mob right now. I've already lived through 2 riots.

    Last I checked we still do have rule of law. Not yet time for armed insurgency and shooting it out with the police.

    This. Guns are for bad guysm who intend to do you harm and the cops can't help you in the moment and/or the mob. And we can all agree that they are just damn cool and fun to shoot at stuff.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,557 Standard Supporter
    That's what pisses me of about lying leftards and the 2A. They want to keep talking about hunting and why I don't need an AR-15 to protect myself. The police sure seem to think they need an AR-15 to protect themselves and they are the supposed professionals.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,237 Founders Club
    edited March 2020

    That's what pisses me of about lying leftards and the 2A. They want to keep talking about hunting and why I don't need an AR-15 to protect myself. The police sure seem to think they need an AR-15 to protect themselves and they are the supposed professionals.

    I don’t favor any sort of AR ban. Plus they are fun as hell to shoot at beer cans (you can’t miss). But the the scenarios where law enforcement might actually need to use one in a shoot out with bad guys are far more probable than the average civilian for home defense.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    That's what pisses me of about lying leftards and the 2A. They want to keep talking about hunting and why I don't need an AR-15 to protect myself. The police sure seem to think they need an AR-15 to protect themselves and they are the supposed professionals.

    I don’t favor any sort of AR ban. Plus they are fun as hell to shoot at beer cans (you can’t miss). But the the scenarios where law enforcement might actually need to use one in a shoot out with bad guys are far more probable than the average civilian for home defense.
    For non COVID end times home defense, I would not use my AR. Good chance of shooting some in the next room, or house for that matter. Now, shooting from the house outward, that’s a different story.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,237 Founders Club

    That's what pisses me of about lying leftards and the 2A. They want to keep talking about hunting and why I don't need an AR-15 to protect myself. The police sure seem to think they need an AR-15 to protect themselves and they are the supposed professionals.

    I don’t favor any sort of AR ban. Plus they are fun as hell to shoot at beer cans (you can’t miss). But the the scenarios where law enforcement might actually need to use one in a shoot out with bad guys are far more probable than the average civilian for home defense.
    For non COVID end times home defense, I would not use my AR. Good chance of shooting some in the next room, or house for that matter. Now, shooting from the house outward, that’s a different story.
    We didn’t have end times in 1918- 19. I don’t think we’ll get there.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,237 Founders Club

    That's what pisses me of about lying leftards and the 2A. They want to keep talking about hunting and why I don't need an AR-15 to protect myself. The police sure seem to think they need an AR-15 to protect themselves and they are the supposed professionals.

    I don’t favor any sort of AR ban. Plus they are fun as hell to shoot at beer cans (you can’t miss). But the the scenarios where law enforcement might actually need to use one in a shoot out with bad guys are far more probable than the average civilian for home defense.
    For non COVID end times home defense, I would not use my AR. Good chance of shooting some in the next room, or house for that matter. Now, shooting from the house outward, that’s a different story.
    I think you’re more out in the cuntry than me, Pod.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    That's what pisses me of about lying leftards and the 2A. They want to keep talking about hunting and why I don't need an AR-15 to protect myself. The police sure seem to think they need an AR-15 to protect themselves and they are the supposed professionals.

    I don’t favor any sort of AR ban. Plus they are fun as hell to shoot at beer cans (you can’t miss). But the the scenarios where law enforcement might actually need to use one in a shoot out with bad guys are far more probable than the average civilian for home defense.
    Except when law enforcement becomes the bad guys
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,237 Founders Club
    edited March 2020

    That's what pisses me of about lying leftards and the 2A. They want to keep talking about hunting and why I don't need an AR-15 to protect myself. The police sure seem to think they need an AR-15 to protect themselves and they are the supposed professionals.

    I don’t favor any sort of AR ban. Plus they are fun as hell to shoot at beer cans (you can’t miss). But the the scenarios where law enforcement might actually need to use one in a shoot out with bad guys are far more probable than the average civilian for home defense.
    Except when law enforcement becomes the bad guys
    Mike D will swarm on any mother fucker in a blue uniform.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=c5fts7bj-so
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,061 Founders Club

    That's what pisses me of about lying leftards and the 2A. They want to keep talking about hunting and why I don't need an AR-15 to protect myself. The police sure seem to think they need an AR-15 to protect themselves and they are the supposed professionals.

    I don’t favor any sort of AR ban. Plus they are fun as hell to shoot at beer cans (you can’t miss). But the the scenarios where law enforcement might actually need to use one in a shoot out with bad guys are far more probable than the average civilian for home defense.
    Except when law enforcement becomes the bad guys
    That could never happen in the US.

    Except also #blacklivesmatter.

    And Trump is Hitler.

    And the Russians hacked our election.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    That's what pisses me of about lying leftards and the 2A. They want to keep talking about hunting and why I don't need an AR-15 to protect myself. The police sure seem to think they need an AR-15 to protect themselves and they are the supposed professionals.

    I don’t favor any sort of AR ban. Plus they are fun as hell to shoot at beer cans (you can’t miss). But the the scenarios where law enforcement might actually need to use one in a shoot out with bad guys are far more probable than the average civilian for home defense.
    For non COVID end times home defense, I would not use my AR. Good chance of shooting some in the next room, or house for that matter. Now, shooting from the house outward, that’s a different story.
    I think you’re more out in the cuntry than me, Pod.
    I’ve been distancing before it was cool.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,237 Founders Club

    That's what pisses me of about lying leftards and the 2A. They want to keep talking about hunting and why I don't need an AR-15 to protect myself. The police sure seem to think they need an AR-15 to protect themselves and they are the supposed professionals.

    I don’t favor any sort of AR ban. Plus they are fun as hell to shoot at beer cans (you can’t miss). But the the scenarios where law enforcement might actually need to use one in a shoot out with bad guys are far more probable than the average civilian for home defense.
    For non COVID end times home defense, I would not use my AR. Good chance of shooting some in the next room, or house for that matter. Now, shooting from the house outward, that’s a different story.
    I think you’re more out in the cuntry than me, Pod.
    I’ve been distancing before it was cool.
    That’s what I hear.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    That's what pisses me of about lying leftards and the 2A. They want to keep talking about hunting and why I don't need an AR-15 to protect myself. The police sure seem to think they need an AR-15 to protect themselves and they are the supposed professionals.

    I don’t favor any sort of AR ban. Plus they are fun as hell to shoot at beer cans (you can’t miss). But the the scenarios where law enforcement might actually need to use one in a shoot out with bad guys are far more probable than the average civilian for home defense.
    Except when law enforcement becomes the bad guys
    Mike D will swarm on any mother fucker in a blue uniform.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=c5fts7bj-so
    Only if they violate the 4th amendment
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    That's what pisses me of about lying leftards and the 2A. They want to keep talking about hunting and why I don't need an AR-15 to protect myself. The police sure seem to think they need an AR-15 to protect themselves and they are the supposed professionals.

    I don’t favor any sort of AR ban. Plus they are fun as hell to shoot at beer cans (you can’t miss). But the the scenarios where law enforcement might actually need to use one in a shoot out with bad guys are far more probable than the average civilian for home defense.
    For non COVID end times home defense, I would not use my AR. Good chance of shooting some in the next room, or house for that matter. Now, shooting from the house outward, that’s a different story.
    I think you’re more out in the cuntry than me, Pod.
    I’ve been distancing before it was cool.
    That’s what I hear.
    I’ve continued to go to office, Inslee can take the keys from my cold dead hands. However, at home, we literally don’t see another soul.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,557 Standard Supporter
    Well Snow - you don't see the need for a ban on AR-15 but damn near everyone of it seemed like dozens of the dem candidates for President did. I'll agree, at this time it's more likely that a cop will need an AR-15 against the bad guys. But things happen -


  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,785 Swaye's Wigwam

    That's what pisses me of about lying leftards and the 2A. They want to keep talking about hunting and why I don't need an AR-15 to protect myself. The police sure seem to think they need an AR-15 to protect themselves and they are the supposed professionals.

    I don’t favor any sort of AR ban. Plus they are fun as hell to shoot at beer cans (you can’t miss). But the the scenarios where law enforcement might actually need to use one in a shoot out with bad guys are far more probable than the average civilian for home defense.
    For non COVID end times home defense, I would not use my AR. Good chance of shooting some in the next room, or house for that matter. Now, shooting from the house outward, that’s a different story.
    I think you’re more out in the cuntry than me, Pod.
    I’ve been distancing before it was cool.
    That’s what I hear.
    I’ve continued to go to office, Inslee can take the keys from my cold dead hands. However, at home, we literally don’t see another soul.
    about 4 PM every day the pup growls at someone jogging on the road. we see but do not communicate. They are still 250 feet away.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,725 Standard Supporter
    edited March 2020

    That's what pisses me of about lying leftards and the 2A. They want to keep talking about hunting and why I don't need an AR-15 to protect myself. The police sure seem to think they need an AR-15 to protect themselves and they are the supposed professionals.

    I don’t favor any sort of AR ban. Plus they are fun as hell to shoot at beer cans (you can’t miss). But the the scenarios where law enforcement might actually need to use one in a shoot out with bad guys are far more probable than the average civilian for home defense.
    There have been several home invasions recently where a so called assault weapon won the day for the resident.

    If the cops need 63 rounds to drop a bad guy in a gunfight my wife might need 63 rounds.

    The AR might be needed against the government if it ever came to that. The 2A isn't just about self defense from crooks.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,725 Standard Supporter

    That's what pisses me of about lying leftards and the 2A. They want to keep talking about hunting and why I don't need an AR-15 to protect myself. The police sure seem to think they need an AR-15 to protect themselves and they are the supposed professionals.

    I don’t favor any sort of AR ban. Plus they are fun as hell to shoot at beer cans (you can’t miss). But the the scenarios where law enforcement might actually need to use one in a shoot out with bad guys are far more probable than the average civilian for home defense.
    For non COVID end times home defense, I would not use my AR. Good chance of shooting some in the next room, or house for that matter. Now, shooting from the house outward, that’s a different story.
    Urban myth with proper ammo. An AR can have less penetration in common building materials than say a 9MM.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,237 Founders Club
    edited March 2020
    Sledog said:

    That's what pisses me of about lying leftards and the 2A. They want to keep talking about hunting and why I don't need an AR-15 to protect myself. The police sure seem to think they need an AR-15 to protect themselves and they are the supposed professionals.

    I don’t favor any sort of AR ban. Plus they are fun as hell to shoot at beer cans (you can’t miss). But the the scenarios where law enforcement might actually need to use one in a shoot out with bad guys are far more probable than the average civilian for home defense.
    There have been several home invasions recently where a so called assault weapon won the day for the resident.

    If the cops need 63 rounds to drop a bad guy in a gunfight my wife might need 63 rounds.

    The AR might be needed against the government if it ever came to that. The 2A isn't just about self defense from crooks.
    Not saying there can’t be a scenario where an AR could say you’re life. It’s just statistically very, very rare. I could get killed my lightning too or die in a firey plane crash. I don’t worry about it.

    When it comes to fighting back against low level tyranny we’re better off relying upon the legal system and the electoral process.

    How’d armed insurrection against perceived tyranny work out for the South?
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,237 Founders Club

    Sledog said:

    That's what pisses me of about lying leftards and the 2A. They want to keep talking about hunting and why I don't need an AR-15 to protect myself. The police sure seem to think they need an AR-15 to protect themselves and they are the supposed professionals.

    I don’t favor any sort of AR ban. Plus they are fun as hell to shoot at beer cans (you can’t miss). But the the scenarios where law enforcement might actually need to use one in a shoot out with bad guys are far more probable than the average civilian for home defense.
    There have been several home invasions recently where a so called assault weapon won the day for the resident.

    If the cops need 63 rounds to drop a bad guy in a gunfight my wife might need 63 rounds.

    The AR might be needed against the government if it ever came to that. The 2A isn't just about self defense from crooks.
    Not saying there can’t be a scenario where an AR could say you’re life. It’s just statistically very, very rare. I could get killed my lightning too or die in a firey plane crash. I don’t worry about it.

    When it comes to fighting back against low level tyranny we’re better off relying upon the legal system and the electoral process.

    How’d armed insurrection against perceived tyranny work out for the South?
    If it came to that, quite honestly, it's the politicians who should be worried. The insurrection would be with the military and law enforcement offers taking them out.

    I can't speak for the former warriors like @Swaye and @USMChawk but I would have a hard time believing guys cut from the same cloth would fire on their own citizens. They would refuse to obey the order.

    I can say with almost absolute certainty, at least in my neck of the woods, the local law enforcement officers would say "fuck no" to anything of that nature.

    Exactly. The people in the military who would have to back a tyranny aren’t exactly left wing radicals.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Sledog said:

    That's what pisses me of about lying leftards and the 2A. They want to keep talking about hunting and why I don't need an AR-15 to protect myself. The police sure seem to think they need an AR-15 to protect themselves and they are the supposed professionals.

    I don’t favor any sort of AR ban. Plus they are fun as hell to shoot at beer cans (you can’t miss). But the the scenarios where law enforcement might actually need to use one in a shoot out with bad guys are far more probable than the average civilian for home defense.
    There have been several home invasions recently where a so called assault weapon won the day for the resident.

    If the cops need 63 rounds to drop a bad guy in a gunfight my wife might need 63 rounds.

    The AR might be needed against the government if it ever came to that. The 2A isn't just about self defense from crooks.
    Not saying there can’t be a scenario where an AR could say you’re life. It’s just statistically very, very rare. I could get killed my lightning too or die in a firey plane crash. I don’t worry about it.

    When it comes to fighting back against low level tyranny we’re better off relying upon the legal system and the electoral process.

    How’d armed insurrection against perceived tyranny work out for the South?
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/paulhsieh/2018/04/30/that-time-the-cdc-asked-about-defensive-gun-uses/amp/
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Sledog said:

    That's what pisses me of about lying leftards and the 2A. They want to keep talking about hunting and why I don't need an AR-15 to protect myself. The police sure seem to think they need an AR-15 to protect themselves and they are the supposed professionals.

    I don’t favor any sort of AR ban. Plus they are fun as hell to shoot at beer cans (you can’t miss). But the the scenarios where law enforcement might actually need to use one in a shoot out with bad guys are far more probable than the average civilian for home defense.
    There have been several home invasions recently where a so called assault weapon won the day for the resident.

    If the cops need 63 rounds to drop a bad guy in a gunfight my wife might need 63 rounds.

    The AR might be needed against the government if it ever came to that. The 2A isn't just about self defense from crooks.
    Not saying there can’t be a scenario where an AR could say you’re life. It’s just statistically very, very rare. I could get killed my lightning too or die in a firey plane crash. I don’t worry about it.

    When it comes to fighting back against low level tyranny we’re better off relying upon the legal system and the electoral process.

    How’d armed insurrection against perceived tyranny work out for the South?
    If it came to that, quite honestly, it's the politicians who should be worried. The insurrection would be with the military and law enforcement offers taking them out.

    I can't speak for the former warriors like @Swaye and @USMChawk but I would have a hard time believing guys cut from the same cloth would fire on their own citizens. They would refuse to obey the order.

    I can say with almost absolute certainty, at least in my neck of the woods, the local law enforcement officers would say "fuck no" to anything of that nature.

    Agree. It wouldn't be the citizens fighting the military. It would be citizens and military fighting what's left of the military