Klobuchar sells the couch
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I blame the panderers more than the pandered to
I think it is simplistic to say Blacks vote for free shit. I think if you listen to Democrats they believe that. The annual listing of what we are going to do for you since you can't do it yourself
The Democrats have scored big on calling everyone a racist for 50 years. If it didn't work they wouldn't do it.
Of course Black voters are complex and diverse in thought. Their vote isn't.
To me this is a big election for the GOP. Can Trump pull 15 to 20% based on results? In theory he should.
The little secret is a lot of Blacks see Democrats as simply the lesser of two evils. Who haven't done anything other than take them for granted
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Unattractive & never married older white liberal women?SFGbob said:
Yeah, the black vote isn't monolithic.dnc said:
You called them a monolith.SFGbob said:
And there's the strawman ass fuck.dnc said:
Polling is infallibleSFGbob said:
Hey you were talking out your ass!!!! But I widely miss the mark and don't know what I was talking about.dnc said:
Hey you found the right article this time!SFGbob said:
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/15/joe-biden-south-carolina-firewall-114862dnc said:Your article says nothing about Biden losing his grip on black voters in SC.
HTH
Fuck off
That one really hurt my snatch.
You presented data that shows that, at most, 34% of black SC voters switched to Biden after he got one endorsement.
That's a big chunk and impressive. It was obviously a major factor, a fact that no one is denying.
It's also a hell of a long way from being a monolith.
Because, once again, this is a lot more complicated than you like to think it is.
An overwhelming majority of black voters — 85 percent — said in a new Hill-HarrisX poll that they would choose any Democratic presidential candidate over President Trump.
The survey, which was released on Monday, found this sentiment to be particularly true among black voters along partisan lines.
Ninety-eight percent of black voters who identify as Democrat, and 72 percent of those who identify as independent said they would back whoever ultimately becomes the Democratic nominee over Trump. Just 12 percent of black voters who identify as Republican said the same.
Black voters are considered a key voting bloc with the Democratic Party, particularly in states like South Carolina where they make up a significant proportion of the electorate.
Can you come up with a single other racial group that votes more monolithically for the Rat party? -
It's simplistic to say that blacks vote only for free shit, and many of the blacks that still stay loyal to the Rat party today aren't getting any "free" shit they are paying for the "free" shit. But it's undeniable to look at the black vote and not to admit that a lot of allegiance to the Rat party was purchased with the promise of "free" shit. In the 1930s there was absolutely no reason for a black person to support the Rat party. But through the Northern Rat party political machines with the assistance of FDR the Rats were able to start prying away a sizable number of black voters with the promise of "free" shit.RaceBannon said:I blame the panderers more than the pandered to
I think it is simplistic to say Blacks vote for free shit. I think if you listen to Democrats they believe that. The annual listing of what we are going to do for you since you can't do it yourself
The Democrats have scored big on calling everyone a racist for 50 years. If it didn't work they wouldn't do it.
Of course Black voters are complex and diverse in thought. Their vote isn't.
To me this is a big election for the GOP. Can Trump pull 15 to 20% based on results? In theory he should.
The little secret is a lot of Blacks see Democrats as simply the lesser of two evils. Who haven't done anything other than take them for granted
2 cents
I really believe that what keeps many black voter loyal to the Rat party today is force of habit and community, family and social pressure. The same is true for many American Jews. The number of black people I know personally who live and earn like Episcopalians but still vote like Puerto Ricans is very similar to Jewish Americans.
If you were to talk to members of my wife's family most of them sound like hard core conservatives when it comes to Social issues, crime and punishment, trust in Government, they just don't vote that way. -
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We?WilburHooksHands said:
When do we start talking about how many black people we know?Bendintheriver said:I would say that LBJ was correct with his assumption on the black vote. History has proven him right beyond a shadow of doubt.
Got to love all these lilly white Northwesterners who live in lilly white land lecturing everyone about the nuances of the black support of the dem party. -
The Civil Rights Act & great society program didn't start the handout mentality. Bureaucratic inertia and exploitation of it created that, just like happens with every government subsidy program, no matter what people or industry it's originally created to help. Bob, you could probably sell your point if you'd stop conflating so badly. HTH.SFGbob said:
Hell FDR was able to get a significant number of blacks to vote for the party that supported Jim Crow and lynching all because of the handouts.Bendintheriver said:I would say that LBJ was correct with his assumption on the black vote. History has proven him right beyond a shadow of doubt.
Got to love all these lilly white Northwesterners who live in lilly white land lecturing everyone about the nuances of the black support of the dem party. -
A few other factors other than race going on there.TurdBomber said:
Unattractive & never married older white liberal women?SFGbob said:
Yeah, the black vote isn't monolithic.dnc said:
You called them a monolith.SFGbob said:
And there's the strawman ass fuck.dnc said:
Polling is infallibleSFGbob said:
Hey you were talking out your ass!!!! But I widely miss the mark and don't know what I was talking about.dnc said:
Hey you found the right article this time!SFGbob said:
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/15/joe-biden-south-carolina-firewall-114862dnc said:Your article says nothing about Biden losing his grip on black voters in SC.
HTH
Fuck off
That one really hurt my snatch.
You presented data that shows that, at most, 34% of black SC voters switched to Biden after he got one endorsement.
That's a big chunk and impressive. It was obviously a major factor, a fact that no one is denying.
It's also a hell of a long way from being a monolith.
Because, once again, this is a lot more complicated than you like to think it is.
An overwhelming majority of black voters — 85 percent — said in a new Hill-HarrisX poll that they would choose any Democratic presidential candidate over President Trump.
The survey, which was released on Monday, found this sentiment to be particularly true among black voters along partisan lines.
Ninety-eight percent of black voters who identify as Democrat, and 72 percent of those who identify as independent said they would back whoever ultimately becomes the Democratic nominee over Trump. Just 12 percent of black voters who identify as Republican said the same.
Black voters are considered a key voting bloc with the Democratic Party, particularly in states like South Carolina where they make up a significant proportion of the electorate.
Can you come up with a single other racial group that votes more monolithically for the Rat party? -
What am I conflating? I've never claimed the Civil Rights Act or the Great Society program started the handout mentality. People have been voting for "free" shit or a patronage job in this country long before any Civil Rights Acts were ever dreamed of.TurdBomber said:
The Civil Rights Act & great society program didn't start the handout mentality. Bureaucratic inertia and exploitation of it created that, just like happens with every government subsidy program, no matter what people or industry it's originally created to help. Bob, you could probably sell your point if you'd stop conflating so badly. HTH.SFGbob said:
Hell FDR was able to get a significant number of blacks to vote for the party that supported Jim Crow and lynching all because of the handouts.Bendintheriver said:I would say that LBJ was correct with his assumption on the black vote. History has proven him right beyond a shadow of doubt.
Got to love all these lilly white Northwesterners who live in lilly white land lecturing everyone about the nuances of the black support of the dem party. -
So you're saying the "handouts" started with the New Deal?SFGbob said:
What am I conflating? I've never claimed the Civil Rights Act or the Great Society program started the handout mentality. People have been voting for "free" shit or a patronage job in this country long before any Civil Rights Acts were ever dreamed of.TurdBomber said:
The Civil Rights Act & great society program didn't start the handout mentality. Bureaucratic inertia and exploitation of it created that, just like happens with every government subsidy program, no matter what people or industry it's originally created to help. Bob, you could probably sell your point if you'd stop conflating so badly. HTH.SFGbob said:
Hell FDR was able to get a significant number of blacks to vote for the party that supported Jim Crow and lynching all because of the handouts.Bendintheriver said:I would say that LBJ was correct with his assumption on the black vote. History has proven him right beyond a shadow of doubt.
Got to love all these lilly white Northwesterners who live in lilly white land lecturing everyone about the nuances of the black support of the dem party. -
Agree. Hispanics tend to be more conservative and catholic as wellSFGbob said:
It's simplistic to say that blacks vote only for free shit, and many of the blacks that still stay loyal to the Rat party today aren't getting any "free" shit they are paying for the "free" shit. But it's undeniable to look at the black vote and not to admit that a lot of allegiance to the Rat party was purchased with the promise of "free" shit. In the 1930s there was absolutely no reason for a black person to support the Rat party. But through the Northern Rat party political machines with the assistance of FDR the Rats were able to start prying away a sizable number of black voters with the promise of "free" shit.RaceBannon said:I blame the panderers more than the pandered to
I think it is simplistic to say Blacks vote for free shit. I think if you listen to Democrats they believe that. The annual listing of what we are going to do for you since you can't do it yourself
The Democrats have scored big on calling everyone a racist for 50 years. If it didn't work they wouldn't do it.
Of course Black voters are complex and diverse in thought. Their vote isn't.
To me this is a big election for the GOP. Can Trump pull 15 to 20% based on results? In theory he should.
The little secret is a lot of Blacks see Democrats as simply the lesser of two evils. Who haven't done anything other than take them for granted
2 cents
I really believe that what keeps many black voter loyal to the Rat party today is force of habit and community, family and social pressure. The same is true for many American Jews. The number of black people I know personally who live and earn like Episcopalians but still vote like Puerto Ricans is very similar to Jewish Americans.
If you were to talk to members of my wife's family most of them sound like hard core conservatives when it comes to Social issues, crime and punishment, trust in Government, they just don't vote that way. -
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! The Dems think they're a lock. Don't ruin the surprise.RaceBannon said:
Agree. Hispanics tend to be more conservative and catholic as wellSFGbob said:
It's simplistic to say that blacks vote only for free shit, and many of the blacks that still stay loyal to the Rat party today aren't getting any "free" shit they are paying for the "free" shit. But it's undeniable to look at the black vote and not to admit that a lot of allegiance to the Rat party was purchased with the promise of "free" shit. In the 1930s there was absolutely no reason for a black person to support the Rat party. But through the Northern Rat party political machines with the assistance of FDR the Rats were able to start prying away a sizable number of black voters with the promise of "free" shit.RaceBannon said:I blame the panderers more than the pandered to
I think it is simplistic to say Blacks vote for free shit. I think if you listen to Democrats they believe that. The annual listing of what we are going to do for you since you can't do it yourself
The Democrats have scored big on calling everyone a racist for 50 years. If it didn't work they wouldn't do it.
Of course Black voters are complex and diverse in thought. Their vote isn't.
To me this is a big election for the GOP. Can Trump pull 15 to 20% based on results? In theory he should.
The little secret is a lot of Blacks see Democrats as simply the lesser of two evils. Who haven't done anything other than take them for granted
2 cents
I really believe that what keeps many black voter loyal to the Rat party today is force of habit and community, family and social pressure. The same is true for many American Jews. The number of black people I know personally who live and earn like Episcopalians but still vote like Puerto Ricans is very similar to Jewish Americans.
If you were to talk to members of my wife's family most of them sound like hard core conservatives when it comes to Social issues, crime and punishment, trust in Government, they just don't vote that way. -
Sweet Geezus did you read what I said? Tammany Hall and other big city political machines and political patronage and "charity" in return for votes all pre-date the New Deal by over 75 years.TurdBomber said:
So you're saying the "handouts" started with the New Deal?SFGbob said:
What am I conflating? I've never claimed the Civil Rights Act or the Great Society program started the handout mentality. People have been voting for "free" shit or a patronage job in this country long before any Civil Rights Acts were ever dreamed of.TurdBomber said:
The Civil Rights Act & great society program didn't start the handout mentality. Bureaucratic inertia and exploitation of it created that, just like happens with every government subsidy program, no matter what people or industry it's originally created to help. Bob, you could probably sell your point if you'd stop conflating so badly. HTH.SFGbob said:
Hell FDR was able to get a significant number of blacks to vote for the party that supported Jim Crow and lynching all because of the handouts.Bendintheriver said:I would say that LBJ was correct with his assumption on the black vote. History has proven him right beyond a shadow of doubt.
Got to love all these lilly white Northwesterners who live in lilly white land lecturing everyone about the nuances of the black support of the dem party. -
You look at the numbers and it becomes pretty apparent the whole "Hispanics are natural Republicans" mantra is mostly a myth. They aren't as monolithic in their voting as blacks but they still skew heavily to the left.RaceBannon said:
Agree. Hispanics tend to be more conservative and catholic as wellSFGbob said:
It's simplistic to say that blacks vote only for free shit, and many of the blacks that still stay loyal to the Rat party today aren't getting any "free" shit they are paying for the "free" shit. But it's undeniable to look at the black vote and not to admit that a lot of allegiance to the Rat party was purchased with the promise of "free" shit. In the 1930s there was absolutely no reason for a black person to support the Rat party. But through the Northern Rat party political machines with the assistance of FDR the Rats were able to start prying away a sizable number of black voters with the promise of "free" shit.RaceBannon said:I blame the panderers more than the pandered to
I think it is simplistic to say Blacks vote for free shit. I think if you listen to Democrats they believe that. The annual listing of what we are going to do for you since you can't do it yourself
The Democrats have scored big on calling everyone a racist for 50 years. If it didn't work they wouldn't do it.
Of course Black voters are complex and diverse in thought. Their vote isn't.
To me this is a big election for the GOP. Can Trump pull 15 to 20% based on results? In theory he should.
The little secret is a lot of Blacks see Democrats as simply the lesser of two evils. Who haven't done anything other than take them for granted
2 cents
I really believe that what keeps many black voter loyal to the Rat party today is force of habit and community, family and social pressure. The same is true for many American Jews. The number of black people I know personally who live and earn like Episcopalians but still vote like Puerto Ricans is very similar to Jewish Americans.
If you were to talk to members of my wife's family most of them sound like hard core conservatives when it comes to Social issues, crime and punishment, trust in Government, they just don't vote that way. -
Honest Answer? Of course not. I never do.SFGbob said:
Sweet Geezus did you read what I said? Tammany Hall and other big city political machines and political patronage and "charity" in return for votes all pre-date the New Deal by over 75 years.TurdBomber said:
So you're saying the "handouts" started with the New Deal?SFGbob said:
What am I conflating? I've never claimed the Civil Rights Act or the Great Society program started the handout mentality. People have been voting for "free" shit or a patronage job in this country long before any Civil Rights Acts were ever dreamed of.TurdBomber said:
The Civil Rights Act & great society program didn't start the handout mentality. Bureaucratic inertia and exploitation of it created that, just like happens with every government subsidy program, no matter what people or industry it's originally created to help. Bob, you could probably sell your point if you'd stop conflating so badly. HTH.SFGbob said:
Hell FDR was able to get a significant number of blacks to vote for the party that supported Jim Crow and lynching all because of the handouts.Bendintheriver said:I would say that LBJ was correct with his assumption on the black vote. History has proven him right beyond a shadow of doubt.
Got to love all these lilly white Northwesterners who live in lilly white land lecturing everyone about the nuances of the black support of the dem party. -
Love the honesty.TurdBomber said:
Honest Answer? Of course not. I never do.SFGbob said:
Sweet Geezus did you read what I said? Tammany Hall and other big city political machines and political patronage and "charity" in return for votes all pre-date the New Deal by over 75 years.TurdBomber said:
So you're saying the "handouts" started with the New Deal?SFGbob said:
What am I conflating? I've never claimed the Civil Rights Act or the Great Society program started the handout mentality. People have been voting for "free" shit or a patronage job in this country long before any Civil Rights Acts were ever dreamed of.TurdBomber said:
The Civil Rights Act & great society program didn't start the handout mentality. Bureaucratic inertia and exploitation of it created that, just like happens with every government subsidy program, no matter what people or industry it's originally created to help. Bob, you could probably sell your point if you'd stop conflating so badly. HTH.SFGbob said:
Hell FDR was able to get a significant number of blacks to vote for the party that supported Jim Crow and lynching all because of the handouts.Bendintheriver said:I would say that LBJ was correct with his assumption on the black vote. History has proven him right beyond a shadow of doubt.
Got to love all these lilly white Northwesterners who live in lilly white land lecturing everyone about the nuances of the black support of the dem party. -
I don't know about natural Republicans but I know what you're saying. The never Trump crowd thinks amnesty is the ticketSFGbob said:
You look at the numbers and it becomes pretty apparent the whole "Hispanics are natural Republicans" mantra is mostly a myth. They aren't as monolithic in their voting as blacks but they still skew heavily to the left.RaceBannon said:
Agree. Hispanics tend to be more conservative and catholic as wellSFGbob said:
It's simplistic to say that blacks vote only for free shit, and many of the blacks that still stay loyal to the Rat party today aren't getting any "free" shit they are paying for the "free" shit. But it's undeniable to look at the black vote and not to admit that a lot of allegiance to the Rat party was purchased with the promise of "free" shit. In the 1930s there was absolutely no reason for a black person to support the Rat party. But through the Northern Rat party political machines with the assistance of FDR the Rats were able to start prying away a sizable number of black voters with the promise of "free" shit.RaceBannon said:I blame the panderers more than the pandered to
I think it is simplistic to say Blacks vote for free shit. I think if you listen to Democrats they believe that. The annual listing of what we are going to do for you since you can't do it yourself
The Democrats have scored big on calling everyone a racist for 50 years. If it didn't work they wouldn't do it.
Of course Black voters are complex and diverse in thought. Their vote isn't.
To me this is a big election for the GOP. Can Trump pull 15 to 20% based on results? In theory he should.
The little secret is a lot of Blacks see Democrats as simply the lesser of two evils. Who haven't done anything other than take them for granted
2 cents
I really believe that what keeps many black voter loyal to the Rat party today is force of habit and community, family and social pressure. The same is true for many American Jews. The number of black people I know personally who live and earn like Episcopalians but still vote like Puerto Ricans is very similar to Jewish Americans.
If you were to talk to members of my wife's family most of them sound like hard core conservatives when it comes to Social issues, crime and punishment, trust in Government, they just don't vote that way.
Citizens tend to be more conservative. The Lt Governor of Texas said he and the governor got 50% by not pandering about open borders but by talking about abortion jobs and border security
The whole idea of voting by race or creed is crazy anyway.
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I guess I should have said Bend. I thought I was making a killer joke but it only took him 10 more posts.TurdBomber said:
We?WilburHooksHands said:
When do we start talking about how many black people we know?Bendintheriver said:I would say that LBJ was correct with his assumption on the black vote. History has proven him right beyond a shadow of doubt.
Got to love all these lilly white Northwesterners who live in lilly white land lecturing everyone about the nuances of the black support of the dem party. -
Wrong. Any black folk who vote against the Dems are race traitors and voting against their own interestRaceBannon said:
Of course Black voters are complex and diverse in thought.
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Always about the blacks.Pitchfork51 said:
Wrong. Any black folk who vote against the Dems are race traitors and voting against their own interestRaceBannon said:
Of course Black voters are complex and diverse in thought. -
"Unattractive & never married older white liberal women?"
Winner, winner - chicken dinner. (Not fried chicken, that would be racist.)
