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If I like my nuclear family, may I keep it?
YellowSnow
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Worthwhile TL;DR David Brooks piece in the Atlantic on decline of the nuclear family. I must admit I am very pessimistic on this topic. I don't think its coming back, but I don't think "villages" are either. In short, we phuked.
In other words, while social conservatives have a philosophy of family life they can’t operationalize, because it no longer is relevant, progressives have no philosophy of family life at all, because they don’t want to seem judgmental. The sexual revolution has come and gone, and it’s left us with no governing norms of family life, no guiding values, no articulated ideals. On this most central issue, our shared culture often has nothing relevant to say—and so for decades things have been falling apart.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/03/the-nuclear-family-was-a-mistake/605536/
In other words, while social conservatives have a philosophy of family life they can’t operationalize, because it no longer is relevant, progressives have no philosophy of family life at all, because they don’t want to seem judgmental. The sexual revolution has come and gone, and it’s left us with no governing norms of family life, no guiding values, no articulated ideals. On this most central issue, our shared culture often has nothing relevant to say—and so for decades things have been falling apart.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/03/the-nuclear-family-was-a-mistake/605536/
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But you're right, we are probably to far gone and there is now a whole industry built around keeping people in victim status and woke people cheering it on.
That said, I don't agree with anything else in the thread.
But don't forget, to do this a parent not only has to make it, but they have to go to the store, look at prices, budget, carry the food home etc... My experience says people who do that aren't poor because they have personal habits that make them not poor or if they are it's transitional. People in chronic poverty aren't going to do it
We? are selfish - I'm guilty of that. That's why I didn't want kids. When I got some pre grown ones I golfed all weekend. I sucked but my son thinks I was great simply because I set a good example about hard work and consistent effort. He is a success.
Long live the family. Fuck the state
There is no ideal family nor are there family values. That is political sloganeering. Do the best you can. Don't have kids if you can't put them first.
Adopt a shelter dog instead
Someone posted an article on here in the last couple of weeks about a group of black women who were lecturing us all on how they don't need our "Western culture" when it comes to the nuclear family . I looked them up and saw another article that was interviewing about 10 of them on the same subject. Statistically (2015 numbers), 41.6% of black America is utilizing government welfare. That means that 4 out of the 10 assholes who were claiming they didn't need our "Western culture" nuclear family were only too happy to take our Western culture welfare paid for by our Western culture tax dollars. 50% of female only head of households were on the government tit. Half of single mother homes. Wow. That is a big number. A number too big to say that it was NOT by choice to be a single parent who couldn't afford to have children.
36% of all latino households are on welfare. Pacific Islanders at 18% and whitey at 13.3%. Married couples and single father head of households? 14.7%.
Quit rewarding it. It is the only way to stop it. Tell people up front that it is going to end. Give them a years notice and then just quit. Those on it can grandfather if is so needed but the newbies who decide to have kids and go immediately on welfare? Nope.
Gosh maybe we should encourage the ones that work better? Too radical?