fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
President-elects can be idealistic and often times they can't accomplish all that they want. Just ask Obama.
You can be anti-war all you want, but unfortunately the world is a dynamic place and there are too many Khameneis out there. Again, why is Iran meddling in Iraq? If a country like Iran would actually mind its own business and pull out, then there would be no need for the US to take action. I'm not a "Trumptard", but he has shown a lot of restraint with Iran.
Why was Iran's SS general in Iraq?
Trump orders the death of the number 2 guy in Iran and you call that restraint?
OK!
Everyone forgets about when he called off an attack on Iran that would have killed civilians. He was chastised for it by some people.
Again, why was Soleimani, a 40-year Revolutionary Guard and a General in Iraq?
Called off an attack that he green lit in the first place. Manufacturing a crisis 101.
I don’t know why he was there, I assume to do bad shit. That’s doesn’t mean we should green light a strike that could escalate the conflict unnecessarily. It was an act of war, and if Iran retaliates, we will have no choice but to escalate.
fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
President-elects can be idealistic and often times they can't accomplish all that they want. Just ask Obama.
You can be anti-war all you want, but unfortunately the world is a dynamic place and there are too many Khameneis out there. Again, why is the US meddling in Iraq? If a country like the US would actually mind its own business and pull out, then there would be no need for the Iran to take action. I'm not a fan of the religious extremists in Iran, but they has shown a lot of restraint with the US.
sometimes it's helpful to look at things from multiple perspectives
fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
President-elects can be idealistic and often times they can't accomplish all that they want. Just ask Obama.
You can be anti-war all you want, but unfortunately the world is a dynamic place and there are too many Khameneis out there. Again, why is Iran meddling in Iraq? If a country like Iran would actually mind its own business and pull out, then there would be no need for the US to take action. I'm not a "Trumptard", but he has shown a lot of restraint with Iran.
Why was Iran's SS general in Iraq?
Trump orders the death of the number 2 guy in Iran and you call that restraint?
OK!
Everyone forgets about when he called off an attack on Iran that would have killed civilians. He was chastised for it by some people.
Again, why was Soleimani, a 40-year Revolutionary Guard and a General in Iraq?
Called off an attack that he green lit in the first place. Manufacturing a crisis 101.
I don’t know why he was there, I assume to do bad shit. That’s doesn’t mean we should green light a strike that could escalate the conflict unnecessarily. It was an act of war, and if Iran retaliates, we will have no choice but to escalate.
fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
President-elects can be idealistic and often times they can't accomplish all that they want. Just ask Obama.
You can be anti-war all you want, but unfortunately the world is a dynamic place and there are too many Khameneis out there. Again, why is the US meddling in Iraq? If a country like the US would actually mind its own business and pull out, then there would be no need for the Iran to take action. I'm not a fan of the religious extremists in Iran, but they has shown a lot of restraint with the US.
Don't deflect.
GWB's war on Iraq was unjustified and was done on a budget. I'm not arguing that. It's just one of the cards in the hand that was dealt to Obama and now Trump.
No secret that Iran hates US's presence in Iraq. Before that, they hated Saddam.
Bottom line is that Iran doesn't like having a powerful adversary next door. Iran needs to be held in check. Unless you trust Khamenei with nukes.
What would you say if Iran launched nukes? I'm sure you would criticize Trump for not doing anything when he had the chance.
US could pull out of Iraq, but that won't change anything.
fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
President-elects can be idealistic and often times they can't accomplish all that they want. Just ask Obama.
You can be anti-war all you want, but unfortunately the world is a dynamic place and there are too many Khameneis out there. Again, why is the US meddling in Iraq? If a country like the US would actually mind its own business and pull out, then there would be no need for the Iran to take action. I'm not a fan of the religious extremists in Iran, but they has shown a lot of restraint with the US.
Don't deflect.
GWB's war on Iraq was unjustified and was done on a budget. I'm not arguing that. It's just one of the cards in the hand that was dealt to Obama and now Trump.
No secret that Iran hates US's presence in Iraq. Before that, they hated Saddam.
Bottom line is that Iran doesn't like having a powerful adversary next door. Iran needs to be held in check. Unless you trust Khamenei with nukes.
What would you say if Iran launched nukes? I'm sure you would criticize Trump for not doing anything when he had the chance.
US could pull out of Iraq, but that won't change anything.
fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
President-elects can be idealistic and often times they can't accomplish all that they want. Just ask Obama.
You can be anti-war all you want, but unfortunately the world is a dynamic place and there are too many Khameneis out there. Again, why is the US meddling in Iraq? If a country like the US would actually mind its own business and pull out, then there would be no need for the Iran to take action. I'm not a fan of the religious extremists in Iran, but they has shown a lot of restraint with the US.
Don't deflect.
GWB's war on Iraq was unjustified and was done on a budget. I'm not arguing that. It's just one of the cards in the hand that was dealt to Obama and now Trump.
No secret that Iran hates US's presence in Iraq. Before that, they hated Saddam.
Bottom line is that Iran doesn't like having a powerful adversary next door. Iran needs to be held in check. Unless you trust Khamenei with nukes.
What would you say if Iran launched nukes? I'm sure you would criticize Trump for not doing anything when he had the chance.
US could pull out of Iraq, but that won't change anything.
I don't trust the mullahs. Maybe you do.
Dude, just admit you want a war.
I expected more from you, @ThomasFremont. I have experienced the terror of war. I don't wish that on anyone. I don't want to see civilian casualties and I don't want US soldiers put in harm's way.
Iran needs to be held in check. That's what I'm getting at. If I wanted war, I'd suggest we leave Iran alone and let them build up a nuclear arsenal.
fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
President-elects can be idealistic and often times they can't accomplish all that they want. Just ask Obama.
You can be anti-war all you want, but unfortunately the world is a dynamic place and there are too many Khameneis out there. Again, why is Iran meddling in Iraq? If a country like Iran would actually mind its own business and pull out, then there would be no need for the US to take action. I'm not a "Trumptard", but he has shown a lot of restraint with Iran.
Why was Iran's SS general in Iraq?
Trump orders the death of the number 2 guy in Iran and you call that restraint?
OK!
Everyone forgets about when he called off an attack on Iran that would have killed civilians. He was chastised for it by some people.
Again, why was Soleimani, a 40-year Revolutionary Guard and a General in Iraq?
Called off an attack that he green lit in the first place. Manufacturing a crisis 101.
I don’t know why he was there, I assume to do bad shit. That’s doesn’t mean we should green light a strike that could escalate the conflict unnecessarily. It was an act of war, and if Iran retaliates, we will have no choice but to escalate.
Like seizing an American ship and crew?
Huh?
You forget fast. Oh yeah it was your hero Obunghole.
I posted a meme with a photo on another thread look at it and remind yourself.
fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
President-elects can be idealistic and often times they can't accomplish all that they want. Just ask Obama.
You can be anti-war all you want, but unfortunately the world is a dynamic place and there are too many Khameneis out there. Again, why is the US meddling in Iraq? If a country like the US would actually mind its own business and pull out, then there would be no need for the Iran to take action. I'm not a fan of the religious extremists in Iran, but they has shown a lot of restraint with the US.
Don't deflect.
GWB's war on Iraq was unjustified and was done on a budget. I'm not arguing that. It's just one of the cards in the hand that was dealt to Obama and now Trump.
No secret that Iran hates US's presence in Iraq. Before that, they hated Saddam.
Bottom line is that Iran doesn't like having a powerful adversary next door. Iran needs to be held in check. Unless you trust Khamenei with nukes.
What would you say if Iran launched nukes? I'm sure you would criticize Trump for not doing anything when he had the chance.
US could pull out of Iraq, but that won't change anything.
I don't trust the mullahs. Maybe you do.
Dude, just admit you want a war.
I expected more from you, @ThomasFremont. I have experienced the terror of war. I don't wish that on anyone. I don't want to see civilian casualties and I don't want US soldiers put in harm's way.
Iran needs to be held in check. That's what I'm getting at. If I wanted war, I'd suggest we leave Iran alone and let them build up a nuclear arsenal.
Cool. I don’t want a war either.
Unfortunately this “restrained” action by Trump puts us closer to one IMHO. Iran was already fucking around, killing one of their top guys won’t make them stop.
fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
President-elects can be idealistic and often times they can't accomplish all that they want. Just ask Obama.
You can be anti-war all you want, but unfortunately the world is a dynamic place and there are too many Khameneis out there. Again, why is the US meddling in Iraq? If a country like the US would actually mind its own business and pull out, then there would be no need for the Iran to take action. I'm not a fan of the religious extremists in Iran, but they has shown a lot of restraint with the US.
Don't deflect.
GWB's war on Iraq was unjustified and was done on a budget. I'm not arguing that. It's just one of the cards in the hand that was dealt to Obama and now Trump.
No secret that Iran hates US's presence in Iraq. Before that, they hated Saddam.
Bottom line is that Iran doesn't like having a powerful adversary next door. Iran needs to be held in check. Unless you trust Khamenei with nukes.
What would you say if Iran launched nukes? I'm sure you would criticize Trump for not doing anything when he had the chance.
US could pull out of Iraq, but that won't change anything.
I don't trust the mullahs. Maybe you do.
Dude, just admit you want a war.
I expected more from you, @ThomasFremont. I have experienced the terror of war. I don't wish that on anyone. I don't want to see civilian casualties and I don't want US soldiers put in harm's way.
Iran needs to be held in check. That's what I'm getting at. If I wanted war, I'd suggest we leave Iran alone and let them build up a nuclear arsenal.
Cool. I don’t want a war either.
Unfortunately this “restrained” action by Trump puts us closer to one IMHO. Iran was already fucking around, killing one of their top guys won’t make them stop.
Let’s give them a billion more in cash and kiss their asses after they kidnap our sailors, that was working great.
Weird the way O’Keefed doesn’t say anything to the guys on his team that according to him have no balls.
fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
President-elects can be idealistic and often times they can't accomplish all that they want. Just ask Obama.
You can be anti-war all you want, but unfortunately the world is a dynamic place and there are too many Khameneis out there. Again, why is the US meddling in Iraq? If a country like the US would actually mind its own business and pull out, then there would be no need for the Iran to take action. I'm not a fan of the religious extremists in Iran, but they has shown a lot of restraint with the US.
Don't deflect.
GWB's war on Iraq was unjustified and was done on a budget. I'm not arguing that. It's just one of the cards in the hand that was dealt to Obama and now Trump.
No secret that Iran hates US's presence in Iraq. Before that, they hated Saddam.
Bottom line is that Iran doesn't like having a powerful adversary next door. Iran needs to be held in check. Unless you trust Khamenei with nukes.
What would you say if Iran launched nukes? I'm sure you would criticize Trump for not doing anything when he had the chance.
US could pull out of Iraq, but that won't change anything.
I don't trust the mullahs. Maybe you do.
Dude, just admit you want a war.
I expected more from you, @ThomasFremont. I have experienced the terror of war. I don't wish that on anyone. I don't want to see civilian casualties and I don't want US soldiers put in harm's way.
Iran needs to be held in check. That's what I'm getting at. If I wanted war, I'd suggest we leave Iran alone and let them build up a nuclear arsenal.
Cool. I don’t want a war either.
Unfortunately this “restrained” action by Trump puts us closer to one IMHO. Iran was already fucking around, killing one of their top guys won’t make them stop.
fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
President-elects can be idealistic and often times they can't accomplish all that they want. Just ask Obama.
You can be anti-war all you want, but unfortunately the world is a dynamic place and there are too many Khameneis out there. Again, why is the US meddling in Iraq? If a country like the US would actually mind its own business and pull out, then there would be no need for the Iran to take action. I'm not a fan of the religious extremists in Iran, but they has shown a lot of restraint with the US.
Don't deflect.
GWB's war on Iraq was unjustified and was done on a budget. I'm not arguing that. It's just one of the cards in the hand that was dealt to Obama and now Trump.
No secret that Iran hates US's presence in Iraq. Before that, they hated Saddam.
Bottom line is that Iran doesn't like having a powerful adversary next door. Iran needs to be held in check. Unless you trust Khamenei with nukes.
What would you say if Iran launched nukes? I'm sure you would criticize Trump for not doing anything when he had the chance.
US could pull out of Iraq, but that won't change anything.
I don't trust the mullahs. Maybe you do.
Dude, just admit you want a war.
I expected more from you, @ThomasFremont. I have experienced the terror of war. I don't wish that on anyone. I don't want to see civilian casualties and I don't want US soldiers put in harm's way.
Iran needs to be held in check. That's what I'm getting at. If I wanted war, I'd suggest we leave Iran alone and let them build up a nuclear arsenal.
Cool. I don’t want a war either.
Unfortunately this “restrained” action by Trump puts us closer to one IMHO. Iran was already fucking around, killing one of their top guys won’t make them stop.
Let’s give them a billion more in cash and kiss their asses after they kidnap our sailors, that was working great.
Weird the way O’Keefed doesn’t say anything to the guys on his team that according to him have no balls.
Is Tommy a pussy O’Keefed?
Sssshhhhh.... Tommy doesn't think they seized our ships or sailors.
fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
President-elects can be idealistic and often times they can't accomplish all that they want. Just ask Obama.
You can be anti-war all you want, but unfortunately the world is a dynamic place and there are too many Khameneis out there. Again, why is the US meddling in Iraq? If a country like the US would actually mind its own business and pull out, then there would be no need for the Iran to take action. I'm not a fan of the religious extremists in Iran, but they has shown a lot of restraint with the US.
Don't deflect.
GWB's war on Iraq was unjustified and was done on a budget. I'm not arguing that. It's just one of the cards in the hand that was dealt to Obama and now Trump.
No secret that Iran hates US's presence in Iraq. Before that, they hated Saddam.
Bottom line is that Iran doesn't like having a powerful adversary next door. Iran needs to be held in check. Unless you trust Khamenei with nukes.
What would you say if Iran launched nukes? I'm sure you would criticize Trump for not doing anything when he had the chance.
US could pull out of Iraq, but that won't change anything.
I don't trust the mullahs. Maybe you do.
Dude, just admit you want a war.
I expected more from you, @ThomasFremont. I have experienced the terror of war. I don't wish that on anyone. I don't want to see civilian casualties and I don't want US soldiers put in harm's way.
Iran needs to be held in check. That's what I'm getting at. If I wanted war, I'd suggest we leave Iran alone and let them build up a nuclear arsenal.
Cool. I don’t want a war either.
Unfortunately this “restrained” action by Trump puts us closer to one IMHO. Iran was already fucking around, killing one of their top guys won’t make them stop.
Let’s give them a billion more in cash and kiss their asses after they kidnap our sailors, that was working great.
Weird the way O’Keefed doesn’t say anything to the guys on his team that according to him have no balls.
Is Tommy a pussy O’Keefed?
Sssshhhhh.... Tommy doesn't think they seized our ships or sailors.
That was 4 years ago. What took so long to get pay back???
fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
President-elects can be idealistic and often times they can't accomplish all that they want. Just ask Obama.
You can be anti-war all you want, but unfortunately the world is a dynamic place and there are too many Khameneis out there. Again, why is the US meddling in Iraq? If a country like the US would actually mind its own business and pull out, then there would be no need for the Iran to take action. I'm not a fan of the religious extremists in Iran, but they has shown a lot of restraint with the US.
Don't deflect.
GWB's war on Iraq was unjustified and was done on a budget. I'm not arguing that. It's just one of the cards in the hand that was dealt to Obama and now Trump.
No secret that Iran hates US's presence in Iraq. Before that, they hated Saddam.
Bottom line is that Iran doesn't like having a powerful adversary next door. Iran needs to be held in check. Unless you trust Khamenei with nukes.
What would you say if Iran launched nukes? I'm sure you would criticize Trump for not doing anything when he had the chance.
US could pull out of Iraq, but that won't change anything.
I don't trust the mullahs. Maybe you do.
Dude, just admit you want a war.
I expected more from you, @ThomasFremont. I have experienced the terror of war. I don't wish that on anyone. I don't want to see civilian casualties and I don't want US soldiers put in harm's way.
Iran needs to be held in check. That's what I'm getting at. If I wanted war, I'd suggest we leave Iran alone and let them build up a nuclear arsenal.
Cool. I don’t want a war either.
Unfortunately this “restrained” action by Trump puts us closer to one IMHO. Iran was already fucking around, killing one of their top guys won’t make them stop.
Let’s give them a billion more in cash and kiss their asses after they kidnap our sailors, that was working great.
Weird the way O’Keefed doesn’t say anything to the guys on his team that according to him have no balls.
Is Tommy a pussy O’Keefed?
Sssshhhhh.... Tommy doesn't think they seized our ships or sailors.
That was 4 years ago. What took so long to get pay back???
Glad your Google works.
Your fearful leader did nothing. Told then to surrender when taken.
Maybe the guy designated a terrorist by the US, UN and the EU shouldn't have been bouncing around Iraq where we have sway. Terrorist terminated. Please bottle your tears they make great gun oil.
fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
President-elects can be idealistic and often times they can't accomplish all that they want. Just ask Obama.
You can be anti-war all you want, but unfortunately the world is a dynamic place and there are too many Khameneis out there. Again, why is the US meddling in Iraq? If a country like the US would actually mind its own business and pull out, then there would be no need for the Iran to take action. I'm not a fan of the religious extremists in Iran, but they has shown a lot of restraint with the US.
Don't deflect.
GWB's war on Iraq was unjustified and was done on a budget. I'm not arguing that. It's just one of the cards in the hand that was dealt to Obama and now Trump.
No secret that Iran hates US's presence in Iraq. Before that, they hated Saddam.
Bottom line is that Iran doesn't like having a powerful adversary next door. Iran needs to be held in check. Unless you trust Khamenei with nukes.
What would you say if Iran launched nukes? I'm sure you would criticize Trump for not doing anything when he had the chance.
US could pull out of Iraq, but that won't change anything.
I don't trust the mullahs. Maybe you do.
Dude, just admit you want a war.
I expected more from you, @ThomasFremont. I have experienced the terror of war. I don't wish that on anyone. I don't want to see civilian casualties and I don't want US soldiers put in harm's way.
Iran needs to be held in check. That's what I'm getting at. If I wanted war, I'd suggest we leave Iran alone and let them build up a nuclear arsenal.
Cool. I don’t want a war either.
Unfortunately this “restrained” action by Trump puts us closer to one IMHO. Iran was already fucking around, killing one of their top guys won’t make them stop.
Let’s give them a billion more in cash and kiss their asses after they kidnap our sailors, that was working great.
Weird the way O’Keefed doesn’t say anything to the guys on his team that according to him have no balls.
Is Tommy a pussy O’Keefed?
Sssshhhhh.... Tommy doesn't think they seized our ships or sailors.
That was 4 years ago. What took so long to get pay back???
fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
President-elects can be idealistic and often times they can't accomplish all that they want. Just ask Obama.
You can be anti-war all you want, but unfortunately the world is a dynamic place and there are too many Khameneis out there. Again, why is the US meddling in Iraq? If a country like the US would actually mind its own business and pull out, then there would be no need for the Iran to take action. I'm not a fan of the religious extremists in Iran, but they has shown a lot of restraint with the US.
Don't deflect.
GWB's war on Iraq was unjustified and was done on a budget. I'm not arguing that. It's just one of the cards in the hand that was dealt to Obama and now Trump.
No secret that Iran hates US's presence in Iraq. Before that, they hated Saddam.
Bottom line is that Iran doesn't like having a powerful adversary next door. Iran needs to be held in check. Unless you trust Khamenei with nukes.
What would you say if Iran launched nukes? I'm sure you would criticize Trump for not doing anything when he had the chance.
US could pull out of Iraq, but that won't change anything.
I don't trust the mullahs. Maybe you do.
Dude, just admit you want a war.
I expected more from you, @ThomasFremont. I have experienced the terror of war. I don't wish that on anyone. I don't want to see civilian casualties and I don't want US soldiers put in harm's way.
Iran needs to be held in check. That's what I'm getting at. If I wanted war, I'd suggest we leave Iran alone and let them build up a nuclear arsenal.
Cool. I don’t want a war either.
Unfortunately this “restrained” action by Trump puts us closer to one IMHO. Iran was already fucking around, killing one of their top guys won’t make them stop.
Let’s give them a billion more in cash and kiss their asses after they kidnap our sailors, that was working great.
Weird the way O’Keefed doesn’t say anything to the guys on his team that according to him have no balls.
Is Tommy a pussy O’Keefed?
Sssshhhhh.... Tommy doesn't think they seized our ships or sailors.
That was 4 years ago. What took so long to get pay back???
Glad your Google works.
Your fearful leader did nothing. Told then to surrender when taken.
Maybe the guy designated a terrorist by the US, UN and the EU shouldn't have been bouncing around Iraq where we have sway. Terrorist terminated. Please bottle your tears they make great gun oil.
It was over in 15 hours. And nobody died.
And I’m still trying to figure out why you think a 4 year old event that resolved peacefully is relevant to the current situation. If Trump wanted payback, why did he wait until year 3?
Unlike in Benghazi where neglected barry and PIPS "pawns" did die. Glad to see you still rooting for the away team. Nothing was resolved four years ago other than barry was a pussy. Nothing will be resolved with Iran unless the mullahs are overthrown or we kill them. In this case, it was a good start.
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GWB's war on Iraq was unjustified and was done on a budget. I'm not arguing that. It's just one of the cards in the hand that was dealt to Obama and now Trump.
No secret that Iran hates US's presence in Iraq. Before that, they hated Saddam.
Bottom line is that Iran doesn't like having a powerful adversary next door. Iran needs to be held in check. Unless you trust Khamenei with nukes.
What would you say if Iran launched nukes? I'm sure you would criticize Trump for not doing anything when he had the chance.
US could pull out of Iraq, but that won't change anything.
I don't trust the mullahs. Maybe you do.
Iran needs to be held in check. That's what I'm getting at. If I wanted war, I'd suggest we leave Iran alone and let them build up a nuclear arsenal.
I posted a meme with a photo on another thread look at it and remind yourself.
Unfortunately this “restrained” action by Trump puts us closer to one IMHO. Iran was already fucking around, killing one of their top guys won’t make them stop.
Weird the way O’Keefed doesn’t say anything to the guys on his team that according to him have no balls.
Is Tommy a pussy O’Keefed?
Your fearful leader did nothing. Told then to surrender when taken.
Maybe the guy designated a terrorist by the US, UN and the EU shouldn't have been bouncing around Iraq where we have sway. Terrorist terminated. Please bottle your tears they make great gun oil.
And I’m still trying to figure out why you think a 4 year old event that resolved peacefully is relevant to the current situation. If Trump wanted payback, why did he wait until year 3?