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Who here is siding with Iran?
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Posing this question to blob is plainly the triumph of hope over experience.2001400ex said:Who here is siding with Iran?
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The only reason World War 3 has not started is because Iran and its allies are sane, rational actors who understand the human cost of war, unlike the US, which is happy to send soldiers to kill and be killed in countries most of its citizens can’t find on a map.
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fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
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The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?dhdawg said:fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
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Yes, it's the blame America first wing doing what they do.BleachedAnusDawg said:
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?dhdawg said:fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
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the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.BleachedAnusDawg said:
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?dhdawg said:fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine. -
Disagreeing with the cult is siding with Iran you didn't know?2001400ex said:Who here is siding with Iran?
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WHAT ABOUT THE KURDS IN IRAQdhdawg said:
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.BleachedAnusDawg said:
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?dhdawg said:fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
Tell your team to stop trying to impeach the President and work with him to get the fuck out
It won't solve the problem and we will end up in a fight anyway but we can kick the can further down the road. I'll be gone. Good luck the rest of the way
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It’s hard POTDRaceBannon said:
WHAT ABOUT THE KURDS IN IRAQdhdawg said:
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.BleachedAnusDawg said:
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?dhdawg said:fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
Tell your team to stop trying to impeach the President and work with him to get the fuck out
It won't solve the problem and we will end up in a fight anyway but we can kick the can further down the road. I'll be gone. Good luck the rest of the way -
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.dhdawg said:
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.BleachedAnusDawg said:
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?dhdawg said:fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then. -
...and fuck me for getting sucked into the Tug. Goddammit!
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Just when you thought you were outPurpleBaze said:...and fuck me for getting sucked into the Tug. Goddammit!
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you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.PurpleBaze said:
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.dhdawg said:
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.BleachedAnusDawg said:
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?dhdawg said:fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against. -
President-elects can be idealistic and often times they can't accomplish all that they want. Just ask Obama.dhdawg said:
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.PurpleBaze said:
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.dhdawg said:
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.BleachedAnusDawg said:
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?dhdawg said:fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
You can be anti-war all you want, but unfortunately the world is a dynamic place and there are too many Khameneis out there. Again, why is Iran meddling in Iraq? If a country like Iran would actually mind its own business and pull out, then there would be no need for the US to take action. I'm not a "Trumptard", but he has shown a lot of restraint with Iran.
Why was Iran's SS general in Iraq? -
Trump orders the death of the number 2 guy in Iran and you call that restraint?PurpleBaze said:
President-elects can be idealistic and often times they can't accomplish all that they want. Just ask Obama.dhdawg said:
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.PurpleBaze said:
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.dhdawg said:
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.BleachedAnusDawg said:
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?dhdawg said:fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
You can be anti-war all you want, but unfortunately the world is a dynamic place and there are too many Khameneis out there. Again, why is Iran meddling in Iraq? If a country like Iran would actually mind its own business and pull out, then there would be no need for the US to take action. I'm not a "Trumptard", but he has shown a lot of restraint with Iran.
Why was Iran's SS general in Iraq?
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Everyone forgets about when he called off an attack on Iran that would have killed civilians. He was chastised for it by some people.ThomasFremont said:
Trump orders the death of the number 2 guy in Iran and you call that restraint?PurpleBaze said:
President-elects can be idealistic and often times they can't accomplish all that they want. Just ask Obama.dhdawg said:
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.PurpleBaze said:
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.dhdawg said:
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.BleachedAnusDawg said:
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?dhdawg said:fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
You can be anti-war all you want, but unfortunately the world is a dynamic place and there are too many Khameneis out there. Again, why is Iran meddling in Iraq? If a country like Iran would actually mind its own business and pull out, then there would be no need for the US to take action. I'm not a "Trumptard", but he has shown a lot of restraint with Iran.
Why was Iran's SS general in Iraq?
OK!
Again, why was Soleimani, a 40-year Revolutionary Guard and a General in Iraq? -
Yes he didn't have #1 killed. It's called a message.ThomasFremont said:
Trump orders the death of the number 2 guy in Iran and you call that restraint?PurpleBaze said:
President-elects can be idealistic and often times they can't accomplish all that they want. Just ask Obama.dhdawg said:
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.PurpleBaze said:
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.dhdawg said:
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.BleachedAnusDawg said:
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?dhdawg said:fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
You can be anti-war all you want, but unfortunately the world is a dynamic place and there are too many Khameneis out there. Again, why is Iran meddling in Iraq? If a country like Iran would actually mind its own business and pull out, then there would be no need for the US to take action. I'm not a "Trumptard", but he has shown a lot of restraint with Iran.
Why was Iran's SS general in Iraq?
OK! -
And I like how a couple of soft pussies who have never lived in a country that went through a revolution and a war try to lecture me about this shit.
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Called off an attack that he green lit in the first place. Manufacturing a crisis 101.PurpleBaze said:
Everyone forgets about when he called off an attack on Iran that would have killed civilians. He was chastised for it by some people.ThomasFremont said:
Trump orders the death of the number 2 guy in Iran and you call that restraint?PurpleBaze said:
President-elects can be idealistic and often times they can't accomplish all that they want. Just ask Obama.dhdawg said:
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.PurpleBaze said:
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.dhdawg said:
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.BleachedAnusDawg said:
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?dhdawg said:fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
You can be anti-war all you want, but unfortunately the world is a dynamic place and there are too many Khameneis out there. Again, why is Iran meddling in Iraq? If a country like Iran would actually mind its own business and pull out, then there would be no need for the US to take action. I'm not a "Trumptard", but he has shown a lot of restraint with Iran.
Why was Iran's SS general in Iraq?
OK!
Again, why was Soleimani, a 40-year Revolutionary Guard and a General in Iraq?
I don’t know why he was there, I assume to do bad shit. That’s doesn’t mean we should green light a strike that could escalate the conflict unnecessarily. It was an act of war, and if Iran retaliates, we will have no choice but to escalate.
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Once you tug, it's hard to stop.RaceBannon said:
Just when you thought you were outPurpleBaze said:...and fuck me for getting sucked into the Tug. Goddammit!
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Like seizing an American ship and crew?ThomasFremont said:
Called off an attack that he green lit in the first place. Manufacturing a crisis 101.PurpleBaze said:
Everyone forgets about when he called off an attack on Iran that would have killed civilians. He was chastised for it by some people.ThomasFremont said:
Trump orders the death of the number 2 guy in Iran and you call that restraint?PurpleBaze said:
President-elects can be idealistic and often times they can't accomplish all that they want. Just ask Obama.dhdawg said:
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.PurpleBaze said:
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.dhdawg said:
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.BleachedAnusDawg said:
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?dhdawg said:fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
You can be anti-war all you want, but unfortunately the world is a dynamic place and there are too many Khameneis out there. Again, why is Iran meddling in Iraq? If a country like Iran would actually mind its own business and pull out, then there would be no need for the US to take action. I'm not a "Trumptard", but he has shown a lot of restraint with Iran.
Why was Iran's SS general in Iraq?
OK!
Again, why was Soleimani, a 40-year Revolutionary Guard and a General in Iraq?
I don’t know why he was there, I assume to do bad shit. That’s doesn’t mean we should green light a strike that could escalate the conflict unnecessarily. It was an act of war, and if Iran retaliates, we will have no choice but to escalate. -
sometimes it's helpful to look at things from multiple perspectivesPurpleBaze said:
President-elects can be idealistic and often times they can't accomplish all that they want. Just ask Obama.dhdawg said:
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.PurpleBaze said:
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.dhdawg said:
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.BleachedAnusDawg said:
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?dhdawg said:fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
You can be anti-war all you want, but unfortunately the world is a dynamic place and there are too many Khameneis out there. Again, why is the US meddling in Iraq? If a country like the US would actually mind its own business and pull out, then there would be no need for the Iran to take action. I'm not a fan of the religious extremists in Iran, but they has shown a lot of restraint with the US. -
Huh?Sledog said:
Like seizing an American ship and crew?ThomasFremont said:
Called off an attack that he green lit in the first place. Manufacturing a crisis 101.PurpleBaze said:
Everyone forgets about when he called off an attack on Iran that would have killed civilians. He was chastised for it by some people.ThomasFremont said:
Trump orders the death of the number 2 guy in Iran and you call that restraint?PurpleBaze said:
President-elects can be idealistic and often times they can't accomplish all that they want. Just ask Obama.dhdawg said:
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.PurpleBaze said:
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.dhdawg said:
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.BleachedAnusDawg said:
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?dhdawg said:fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
You can be anti-war all you want, but unfortunately the world is a dynamic place and there are too many Khameneis out there. Again, why is Iran meddling in Iraq? If a country like Iran would actually mind its own business and pull out, then there would be no need for the US to take action. I'm not a "Trumptard", but he has shown a lot of restraint with Iran.
Why was Iran's SS general in Iraq?
OK!
Again, why was Soleimani, a 40-year Revolutionary Guard and a General in Iraq?
I don’t know why he was there, I assume to do bad shit. That’s doesn’t mean we should green light a strike that could escalate the conflict unnecessarily. It was an act of war, and if Iran retaliates, we will have no choice but to escalate. -
Don't deflect.dhdawg said:PurpleBaze said:
President-elects can be idealistic and often times they can't accomplish all that they want. Just ask Obama.dhdawg said:
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.PurpleBaze said:
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.dhdawg said:
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.BleachedAnusDawg said:
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?dhdawg said:fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
You can be anti-war all you want, but unfortunately the world is a dynamic place and there are too many Khameneis out there. Again, why is the US meddling in Iraq? If a country like the US would actually mind its own business and pull out, then there would be no need for the Iran to take action. I'm not a fan of the religious extremists in Iran, but they has shown a lot of restraint with the US.
GWB's war on Iraq was unjustified and was done on a budget. I'm not arguing that. It's just one of the cards in the hand that was dealt to Obama and now Trump.
No secret that Iran hates US's presence in Iraq. Before that, they hated Saddam.
Bottom line is that Iran doesn't like having a powerful adversary next door. Iran needs to be held in check. Unless you trust Khamenei with nukes.
What would you say if Iran launched nukes? I'm sure you would criticize Trump for not doing anything when he had the chance.
US could pull out of Iraq, but that won't change anything.
I don't trust the mullahs. Maybe you do. -
Dude, just admit you want a war.PurpleBaze said:
Don't deflect.dhdawg said:PurpleBaze said:
President-elects can be idealistic and often times they can't accomplish all that they want. Just ask Obama.dhdawg said:
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.PurpleBaze said:
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.dhdawg said:
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.BleachedAnusDawg said:
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?dhdawg said:fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
You can be anti-war all you want, but unfortunately the world is a dynamic place and there are too many Khameneis out there. Again, why is the US meddling in Iraq? If a country like the US would actually mind its own business and pull out, then there would be no need for the Iran to take action. I'm not a fan of the religious extremists in Iran, but they has shown a lot of restraint with the US.
GWB's war on Iraq was unjustified and was done on a budget. I'm not arguing that. It's just one of the cards in the hand that was dealt to Obama and now Trump.
No secret that Iran hates US's presence in Iraq. Before that, they hated Saddam.
Bottom line is that Iran doesn't like having a powerful adversary next door. Iran needs to be held in check. Unless you trust Khamenei with nukes.
What would you say if Iran launched nukes? I'm sure you would criticize Trump for not doing anything when he had the chance.
US could pull out of Iraq, but that won't change anything.
I don't trust the mullahs. Maybe you do. -
I expected more from you, @ThomasFremont. I have experienced the terror of war. I don't wish that on anyone. I don't want to see civilian casualties and I don't want US soldiers put in harm's way.ThomasFremont said:
Dude, just admit you want a war.PurpleBaze said:
Don't deflect.dhdawg said:PurpleBaze said:
President-elects can be idealistic and often times they can't accomplish all that they want. Just ask Obama.dhdawg said:
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.PurpleBaze said:
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.dhdawg said:
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.BleachedAnusDawg said:
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?dhdawg said:fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
You can be anti-war all you want, but unfortunately the world is a dynamic place and there are too many Khameneis out there. Again, why is the US meddling in Iraq? If a country like the US would actually mind its own business and pull out, then there would be no need for the Iran to take action. I'm not a fan of the religious extremists in Iran, but they has shown a lot of restraint with the US.
GWB's war on Iraq was unjustified and was done on a budget. I'm not arguing that. It's just one of the cards in the hand that was dealt to Obama and now Trump.
No secret that Iran hates US's presence in Iraq. Before that, they hated Saddam.
Bottom line is that Iran doesn't like having a powerful adversary next door. Iran needs to be held in check. Unless you trust Khamenei with nukes.
What would you say if Iran launched nukes? I'm sure you would criticize Trump for not doing anything when he had the chance.
US could pull out of Iraq, but that won't change anything.
I don't trust the mullahs. Maybe you do.
Iran needs to be held in check. That's what I'm getting at. If I wanted war, I'd suggest we leave Iran alone and let them build up a nuclear arsenal. -
You forget fast. Oh yeah it was your hero Obunghole.ThomasFremont said:
Huh?Sledog said:
Like seizing an American ship and crew?ThomasFremont said:
Called off an attack that he green lit in the first place. Manufacturing a crisis 101.PurpleBaze said:
Everyone forgets about when he called off an attack on Iran that would have killed civilians. He was chastised for it by some people.ThomasFremont said:
Trump orders the death of the number 2 guy in Iran and you call that restraint?PurpleBaze said:
President-elects can be idealistic and often times they can't accomplish all that they want. Just ask Obama.dhdawg said:
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.PurpleBaze said:
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.dhdawg said:
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.BleachedAnusDawg said:
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?dhdawg said:fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
You can be anti-war all you want, but unfortunately the world is a dynamic place and there are too many Khameneis out there. Again, why is Iran meddling in Iraq? If a country like Iran would actually mind its own business and pull out, then there would be no need for the US to take action. I'm not a "Trumptard", but he has shown a lot of restraint with Iran.
Why was Iran's SS general in Iraq?
OK!
Again, why was Soleimani, a 40-year Revolutionary Guard and a General in Iraq?
I don’t know why he was there, I assume to do bad shit. That’s doesn’t mean we should green light a strike that could escalate the conflict unnecessarily. It was an act of war, and if Iran retaliates, we will have no choice but to escalate.
I posted a meme with a photo on another thread look at it and remind yourself. -
Cool. I don’t want a war either.PurpleBaze said:
I expected more from you, @ThomasFremont. I have experienced the terror of war. I don't wish that on anyone. I don't want to see civilian casualties and I don't want US soldiers put in harm's way.ThomasFremont said:
Dude, just admit you want a war.PurpleBaze said:
Don't deflect.dhdawg said:PurpleBaze said:
President-elects can be idealistic and often times they can't accomplish all that they want. Just ask Obama.dhdawg said:
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.PurpleBaze said:
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.dhdawg said:
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.BleachedAnusDawg said:
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?dhdawg said:fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
You can be anti-war all you want, but unfortunately the world is a dynamic place and there are too many Khameneis out there. Again, why is the US meddling in Iraq? If a country like the US would actually mind its own business and pull out, then there would be no need for the Iran to take action. I'm not a fan of the religious extremists in Iran, but they has shown a lot of restraint with the US.
GWB's war on Iraq was unjustified and was done on a budget. I'm not arguing that. It's just one of the cards in the hand that was dealt to Obama and now Trump.
No secret that Iran hates US's presence in Iraq. Before that, they hated Saddam.
Bottom line is that Iran doesn't like having a powerful adversary next door. Iran needs to be held in check. Unless you trust Khamenei with nukes.
What would you say if Iran launched nukes? I'm sure you would criticize Trump for not doing anything when he had the chance.
US could pull out of Iraq, but that won't change anything.
I don't trust the mullahs. Maybe you do.
Iran needs to be held in check. That's what I'm getting at. If I wanted war, I'd suggest we leave Iran alone and let them build up a nuclear arsenal.
Unfortunately this “restrained” action by Trump puts us closer to one IMHO. Iran was already fucking around, killing one of their top guys won’t make them stop.
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Let’s give them a billion more in cash and kiss their asses after they kidnap our sailors, that was working great.ThomasFremont said:
Cool. I don’t want a war either.PurpleBaze said:
I expected more from you, @ThomasFremont. I have experienced the terror of war. I don't wish that on anyone. I don't want to see civilian casualties and I don't want US soldiers put in harm's way.ThomasFremont said:
Dude, just admit you want a war.PurpleBaze said:
Don't deflect.dhdawg said:PurpleBaze said:
President-elects can be idealistic and often times they can't accomplish all that they want. Just ask Obama.dhdawg said:
you argument is that we need to keep getting more involved in order to mitigate the damage that we did by getting involved in the first place.PurpleBaze said:
Yes, the US was duped by the Brits to help get rid of Mosaddegh in the 50's. That was a huge blunder on the part of the Eisenhower administration. Mosaddegh nationalized the Iranian oil and the Brits wanted to take back control of the oil facilities there.dhdawg said:
the answer is yes, it started with a CIA coup in the 50's.BleachedAnusDawg said:
The only reason Iran hates the US is because we're in the Middle East? Is this a serious post?dhdawg said:fucking childish bullshit. the only reason there are "sides" is because we are there in the first place.
Why are we in Iraq in the first place. if we simply just pulled out the threat would be gone. But keep cheering on the war machine.
It doesn't much matter now why we? are in Iraq. The bottom line is that the US now has a presence in Iraq. Why the fuck is Iran meddling in Iraq with Iran's own version of Schutzstaffel? The Revolutionary Guard started as a bunch of rag-tag wannabes in the early days of the current regime. Over the years, they were converted into an organized and trained military branch. They are not that much better than the SS. Why are they trying to stir the shit in Iraq?
Do you seriously think that if the US pulled out of Iraq that the threat would be gone? Iran would like nothing more than to have a larger footprint in the region. The US fucked up the war in Iraq. We? didn't go far enough, in effect destabilizing the country and then resting on our laurels while Islamic State flourished, while the previous president called them the "JV team".
No one is cheering the war machine, especially not me. But, certain things need to be dealt with swiftly and with a lot of force. When it comes to Middle East countries, the more force the better. They will actually respect you then.
Endless war that Trump once pretended to be against.
You can be anti-war all you want, but unfortunately the world is a dynamic place and there are too many Khameneis out there. Again, why is the US meddling in Iraq? If a country like the US would actually mind its own business and pull out, then there would be no need for the Iran to take action. I'm not a fan of the religious extremists in Iran, but they has shown a lot of restraint with the US.
GWB's war on Iraq was unjustified and was done on a budget. I'm not arguing that. It's just one of the cards in the hand that was dealt to Obama and now Trump.
No secret that Iran hates US's presence in Iraq. Before that, they hated Saddam.
Bottom line is that Iran doesn't like having a powerful adversary next door. Iran needs to be held in check. Unless you trust Khamenei with nukes.
What would you say if Iran launched nukes? I'm sure you would criticize Trump for not doing anything when he had the chance.
US could pull out of Iraq, but that won't change anything.
I don't trust the mullahs. Maybe you do.
Iran needs to be held in check. That's what I'm getting at. If I wanted war, I'd suggest we leave Iran alone and let them build up a nuclear arsenal.
Unfortunately this “restrained” action by Trump puts us closer to one IMHO. Iran was already fucking around, killing one of their top guys won’t make them stop.
Weird the way O’Keefed doesn’t say anything to the guys on his team that according to him have no balls.
Is Tommy a pussy O’Keefed?
