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  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,145

    You must have LOVED Obama.

    Hint: presidents have very little impact on the markets.

    You mean all the bailouts and quantitative easning to the tune of $10 TRILLION added to the national debt? Yeah, he was a real magician.

  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    S&P 500 tripled from ‘09 to ‘17 but hey the 35% rise while Trump has been in office ain’t bad I guess...

    Well first Obama tanked the economy. Then it came back to normal jackass
    We can debate his policy responses, but Obama wasn’t POTUS when the economy tanked.
    Which of the things that leftists love to cite as the cause(s) of the recession did Obama oppose? And you're correct, he wasn't President when the economy tanked but he was President for the anemic recovery and his policies were directly responsible for that.
    But it was Democrat policies that caused the housing bubble and massive collapse.
    And yet the GOP had the WH and both houses for most (not all) of 2001- 2009 but somehow it was the Dem’s policies.
    November 7, 2006 — California Representative Nancy Pelosi and Nevada Senator Harry Reid lead the Democratic Party in taking control of both the House and the Senate in the 2006 congressional elections, the first time in 12 years the Democrats secure control of both houses of Congress simultaneously.

    The Dem policies were from the 90's when it was racist not to give mortgages

    The laws provided the insurance for the lenders to make bad loans and threatened them with the consequences if they didn't

    That added up to a lot of bad paper that was mingled with good paper which caused the collapse

    Nobody is really innocent. The collusion of Wall Street and our tax dollars is the root cause which no one wants to address

    Bidness as usual
    100% agree. My objection here is the lack of objectivity from my conservative frens in the Tug. The fuckery that led to 2008-09 was a bi-partisan mess. Same with the Iraq War. Hillary and Kerry both voted for that shit. Obama wasn't a federal office holder yet so I don't put my stock in his anti war stance at the time.
    I don't disagree that both parties played a role in the economic meltdown. Not sure who you feel you're arguing against.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,145

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    S&P 500 tripled from ‘09 to ‘17 but hey the 35% rise while Trump has been in office ain’t bad I guess...

    Well first Obama tanked the economy. Then it came back to normal jackass
    We can debate his policy responses, but Obama wasn’t POTUS when the economy tanked.
    Which of the things that leftists love to cite as the cause(s) of the recession did Obama oppose? And you're correct, he wasn't President when the economy tanked but he was President for the anemic recovery and his policies were directly responsible for that.
    But it was Democrat policies that caused the housing bubble and massive collapse.
    And yet the GOP had the WH and both houses for most (not all) of 2001- 2009 but somehow it was the Dem’s policies.
    November 7, 2006 — California Representative Nancy Pelosi and Nevada Senator Harry Reid lead the Democratic Party in taking control of both the House and the Senate in the 2006 congressional elections, the first time in 12 years the Democrats secure control of both houses of Congress simultaneously.

    The Dem policies were from the 90's when it was racist not to give mortgages

    The laws provided the insurance for the lenders to make bad loans and threatened them with the consequences if they didn't

    That added up to a lot of bad paper that was mingled with good paper which caused the collapse

    Nobody is really innocent. The collusion of Wall Street and our tax dollars is the root cause which no one wants to address

    Bidness as usual
    100% agree. My objection here is the lack of objectivity from my conservative frens in the Tug. The fuckery that led to 2008-09 was a bi-partisan mess. Same with the Iraq War. Hillary and Kerry both voted for that shit. Obama wasn't a federal office holder yet so I don't put my stock in his anti war stance at the time.
    Which conservative here lacks objectivity and hasn't condemned GOP leadership for the last 30 years? The swamp is loaded with Republicans too. The difference between the conservatives on this site and the liberals is that conservatives aren't above calling out Rupublican politicians and their love of government. Liberals will NEVER denounce Democrats and will ALWAYS support big government. So again i ask you which conservatives on this site lack objectivity when it comes to denouncing politicians and the government of the United States of America in its entirety?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,705 Founders Club

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    S&P 500 tripled from ‘09 to ‘17 but hey the 35% rise while Trump has been in office ain’t bad I guess...

    Well first Obama tanked the economy. Then it came back to normal jackass
    We can debate his policy responses, but Obama wasn’t POTUS when the economy tanked.
    Which of the things that leftists love to cite as the cause(s) of the recession did Obama oppose? And you're correct, he wasn't President when the economy tanked but he was President for the anemic recovery and his policies were directly responsible for that.
    But it was Democrat policies that caused the housing bubble and massive collapse.
    And yet the GOP had the WH and both houses for most (not all) of 2001- 2009 but somehow it was the Dem’s policies.
    November 7, 2006 — California Representative Nancy Pelosi and Nevada Senator Harry Reid lead the Democratic Party in taking control of both the House and the Senate in the 2006 congressional elections, the first time in 12 years the Democrats secure control of both houses of Congress simultaneously.

    The Dem policies were from the 90's when it was racist not to give mortgages

    The laws provided the insurance for the lenders to make bad loans and threatened them with the consequences if they didn't

    That added up to a lot of bad paper that was mingled with good paper which caused the collapse

    Nobody is really innocent. The collusion of Wall Street and our tax dollars is the root cause which no one wants to address

    Bidness as usual
    100% agree. My objection here is the lack of objectivity from my conservative frens in the Tug. The fuckery that led to 2008-09 was a bi-partisan mess. Same with the Iraq War. Hillary and Kerry both voted for that shit. Obama wasn't a federal office holder yet so I don't put my stock in his anti war stance at the time.
    W took the hit almost by himself along with Wall Street

    You may have notice that Bush isn't real popular other than among you never trumper types
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    S&P 500 tripled from ‘09 to ‘17 but hey the 35% rise while Trump has been in office ain’t bad I guess...

    Well first Obama tanked the economy. Then it came back to normal jackass
    We can debate his policy responses, but Obama wasn’t POTUS when the economy tanked.
    Which of the things that leftists love to cite as the cause(s) of the recession did Obama oppose? And you're correct, he wasn't President when the economy tanked but he was President for the anemic recovery and his policies were directly responsible for that.
    But it was Democrat policies that caused the housing bubble and massive collapse.
    And yet the GOP had the WH and both houses for most (not all) of 2001- 2009 but somehow it was the Dem’s policies.
    November 7, 2006 — California Representative Nancy Pelosi and Nevada Senator Harry Reid lead the Democratic Party in taking control of both the House and the Senate in the 2006 congressional elections, the first time in 12 years the Democrats secure control of both houses of Congress simultaneously.

    The Dem policies were from the 90's when it was racist not to give mortgages

    The laws provided the insurance for the lenders to make bad loans and threatened them with the consequences if they didn't

    That added up to a lot of bad paper that was mingled with good paper which caused the collapse

    Nobody is really innocent. The collusion of Wall Street and our tax dollars is the root cause which no one wants to address

    Bidness as usual
    100% agree. My objection here is the lack of objectivity from my conservative frens in the Tug. The fuckery that led to 2008-09 was a bi-partisan mess. Same with the Iraq War. Hillary and Kerry both voted for that shit. Obama wasn't a federal office holder yet so I don't put my stock in his anti war stance at the time.
    Which conservative here lacks objectivity and hasn't condemned GOP leadership for the last 30 years? The swamp is loaded with Republicans too. The difference between the conservatives on this site and the liberals is that conservatives aren't above calling out Rupublican politicians and their love of government. Liberals will NEVER denounce Democrats and will ALWAYS support big government. So again i ask you which conservatives on this site lack objectivity when it comes to denouncing politicians and the government of the United States of America in its entirety?
    Are there any liberals here who are willing to blame the government for making the housing meltdown far worse than it ever needed to be? I've not seen them. When ever this topic comes up the blame by leftists is always directed at Bush and Wall Street.

    Fannie and Freddie and their distortion of the mortgage market and their near sole creation of the mortgage backed securities market are never mentioned as culprits in any of it.

  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,211 Founders Club

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    S&P 500 tripled from ‘09 to ‘17 but hey the 35% rise while Trump has been in office ain’t bad I guess...

    Well first Obama tanked the economy. Then it came back to normal jackass
    We can debate his policy responses, but Obama wasn’t POTUS when the economy tanked.
    Which of the things that leftists love to cite as the cause(s) of the recession did Obama oppose? And you're correct, he wasn't President when the economy tanked but he was President for the anemic recovery and his policies were directly responsible for that.
    But it was Democrat policies that caused the housing bubble and massive collapse.
    And yet the GOP had the WH and both houses for most (not all) of 2001- 2009 but somehow it was the Dem’s policies.
    November 7, 2006 — California Representative Nancy Pelosi and Nevada Senator Harry Reid lead the Democratic Party in taking control of both the House and the Senate in the 2006 congressional elections, the first time in 12 years the Democrats secure control of both houses of Congress simultaneously.

    The Dem policies were from the 90's when it was racist not to give mortgages

    The laws provided the insurance for the lenders to make bad loans and threatened them with the consequences if they didn't

    That added up to a lot of bad paper that was mingled with good paper which caused the collapse

    Nobody is really innocent. The collusion of Wall Street and our tax dollars is the root cause which no one wants to address

    Bidness as usual
    100% agree. My objection here is the lack of objectivity from my conservative frens in the Tug. The fuckery that led to 2008-09 was a bi-partisan mess. Same with the Iraq War. Hillary and Kerry both voted for that shit. Obama wasn't a federal office holder yet so I don't put my stock in his anti war stance at the time.
    Which conservative here lacks objectivity and hasn't condemned GOP leadership for the last 30 years? The swamp is loaded with Republicans too. The difference between the conservatives on this site and the liberals is that conservatives aren't above calling out Rupublican politicians and their love of government. Liberals will NEVER denounce Democrats and will ALWAYS support big government. So again i ask you which conservatives on this site lack objectivity when it comes to denouncing politicians and the government of the United States of America in its entirety?
    Follow the thread. I responded to @Sledog 's blaming Dems for the 2008- 09 financial collapse. This did not seem like an objective comment to me.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,782 Swaye's Wigwam

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    S&P 500 tripled from ‘09 to ‘17 but hey the 35% rise while Trump has been in office ain’t bad I guess...

    Well first Obama tanked the economy. Then it came back to normal jackass
    We can debate his policy responses, but Obama wasn’t POTUS when the economy tanked.
    Which of the things that leftists love to cite as the cause(s) of the recession did Obama oppose? And you're correct, he wasn't President when the economy tanked but he was President for the anemic recovery and his policies were directly responsible for that.
    But it was Democrat policies that caused the housing bubble and massive collapse.
    And yet the GOP had the WH and both houses for most (not all) of 2001- 2009 but somehow it was the Dem’s policies.
    November 7, 2006 — California Representative Nancy Pelosi and Nevada Senator Harry Reid lead the Democratic Party in taking control of both the House and the Senate in the 2006 congressional elections, the first time in 12 years the Democrats secure control of both houses of Congress simultaneously.

    The Dem policies were from the 90's when it was racist not to give mortgages

    The laws provided the insurance for the lenders to make bad loans and threatened them with the consequences if they didn't

    That added up to a lot of bad paper that was mingled with good paper which caused the collapse

    Nobody is really innocent. The collusion of Wall Street and our tax dollars is the root cause which no one wants to address

    Bidness as usual
    100% agree. My objection here is the lack of objectivity from my conservative frens in the Tug. The fuckery that led to 2008-09 was a bi-partisan mess. Same with the Iraq War. Hillary and Kerry both voted for that shit. Obama wasn't a federal office holder yet so I don't put my stock in his anti war stance at the time.
    Which conservative here lacks objectivity and hasn't condemned GOP leadership for the last 30 years? The swamp is loaded with Republicans too. The difference between the conservatives on this site and the liberals is that conservatives aren't above calling out Rupublican politicians and their love of government. Liberals will NEVER denounce Democrats and will ALWAYS support big government. So again i ask you which conservatives on this site lack objectivity when it comes to denouncing politicians and the government of the United States of America in its entirety?
    Follow the thread. I responded to @Sledog 's blaming Dems for the 2008- 09 financial collapse. This did not seem like an objective comment to me.
    one must remember where one is poasting - I am amazed that page 2 is still almost on topic
  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,070

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    S&P 500 tripled from ‘09 to ‘17 but hey the 35% rise while Trump has been in office ain’t bad I guess...

    Well first Obama tanked the economy. Then it came back to normal jackass
    We can debate his policy responses, but Obama wasn’t POTUS when the economy tanked.
    Which of the things that leftists love to cite as the cause(s) of the recession did Obama oppose? And you're correct, he wasn't President when the economy tanked but he was President for the anemic recovery and his policies were directly responsible for that.
    But it was Democrat policies that caused the housing bubble and massive collapse.
    And yet the GOP had the WH and both houses for most (not all) of 2001- 2009 but somehow it was the Dem’s policies.
    November 7, 2006 — California Representative Nancy Pelosi and Nevada Senator Harry Reid lead the Democratic Party in taking control of both the House and the Senate in the 2006 congressional elections, the first time in 12 years the Democrats secure control of both houses of Congress simultaneously.

    The Dem policies were from the 90's when it was racist not to give mortgages

    The laws provided the insurance for the lenders to make bad loans and threatened them with the consequences if they didn't

    That added up to a lot of bad paper that was mingled with good paper which caused the collapse

    Nobody is really innocent. The collusion of Wall Street and our tax dollars is the root cause which no one wants to address

    Bidness as usual
    100% agree. My objection here is the lack of objectivity from my conservative frens in the Tug. The fuckery that led to 2008-09 was a bi-partisan mess. Same with the Iraq War. Hillary and Kerry both voted for that shit. Obama wasn't a federal office holder yet so I don't put my stock in his anti war stance at the time.
    Which conservative here lacks objectivity and hasn't condemned GOP leadership for the last 30 years? The swamp is loaded with Republicans too. The difference between the conservatives on this site and the liberals is that conservatives aren't above calling out Rupublican politicians and their love of government. Liberals will NEVER denounce Democrats and will ALWAYS support big government. So again i ask you which conservatives on this site lack objectivity when it comes to denouncing politicians and the government of the United States of America in its entirety?
    Follow the thread. I responded to @Sledog 's blaming Dems for the 2008- 09 financial collapse. This did not seem like an objective comment to me.
    you're wasting your time
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,641 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    S&P 500 tripled from ‘09 to ‘17 but hey the 35% rise while Trump has been in office ain’t bad I guess...

    Well first Obama tanked the economy. Then it came back to normal jackass
    We can debate his policy responses, but Obama wasn’t POTUS when the economy tanked.
    Which of the things that leftists love to cite as the cause(s) of the recession did Obama oppose? And you're correct, he wasn't President when the economy tanked but he was President for the anemic recovery and his policies were directly responsible for that.
    But it was Democrat policies that caused the housing bubble and massive collapse.
    And yet the GOP had the WH and both houses for most (not all) of 2001- 2009 but somehow it was the Dem’s policies.
    November 7, 2006 — California Representative Nancy Pelosi and Nevada Senator Harry Reid lead the Democratic Party in taking control of both the House and the Senate in the 2006 congressional elections, the first time in 12 years the Democrats secure control of both houses of Congress simultaneously.

    The Dem policies were from the 90's when it was racist not to give mortgages

    The laws provided the insurance for the lenders to make bad loans and threatened them with the consequences if they didn't

    That added up to a lot of bad paper that was mingled with good paper which caused the collapse

    Nobody is really innocent. The collusion of Wall Street and our tax dollars is the root cause which no one wants to address

    Bidness as usual
    100% agree. My objection here is the lack of objectivity from my conservative frens in the Tug. The fuckery that led to 2008-09 was a bi-partisan mess. Same with the Iraq War. Hillary and Kerry both voted for that shit. Obama wasn't a federal office holder yet so I don't put my stock in his anti war stance at the time.
    Which conservative here lacks objectivity and hasn't condemned GOP leadership for the last 30 years? The swamp is loaded with Republicans too. The difference between the conservatives on this site and the liberals is that conservatives aren't above calling out Rupublican politicians and their love of government. Liberals will NEVER denounce Democrats and will ALWAYS support big government. So again i ask you which conservatives on this site lack objectivity when it comes to denouncing politicians and the government of the United States of America in its entirety?
    Follow the thread. I responded to @Sledog 's blaming Dems for the 2008- 09 financial collapse. This did not seem like an objective comment to me.
    I also blame everyone including repubs for not getting rid of that BS.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,705 Founders Club
    BearsWiin said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    S&P 500 tripled from ‘09 to ‘17 but hey the 35% rise while Trump has been in office ain’t bad I guess...

    Well first Obama tanked the economy. Then it came back to normal jackass
    We can debate his policy responses, but Obama wasn’t POTUS when the economy tanked.
    Which of the things that leftists love to cite as the cause(s) of the recession did Obama oppose? And you're correct, he wasn't President when the economy tanked but he was President for the anemic recovery and his policies were directly responsible for that.
    But it was Democrat policies that caused the housing bubble and massive collapse.
    And yet the GOP had the WH and both houses for most (not all) of 2001- 2009 but somehow it was the Dem’s policies.
    November 7, 2006 — California Representative Nancy Pelosi and Nevada Senator Harry Reid lead the Democratic Party in taking control of both the House and the Senate in the 2006 congressional elections, the first time in 12 years the Democrats secure control of both houses of Congress simultaneously.

    The Dem policies were from the 90's when it was racist not to give mortgages

    The laws provided the insurance for the lenders to make bad loans and threatened them with the consequences if they didn't

    That added up to a lot of bad paper that was mingled with good paper which caused the collapse

    Nobody is really innocent. The collusion of Wall Street and our tax dollars is the root cause which no one wants to address

    Bidness as usual
    100% agree. My objection here is the lack of objectivity from my conservative frens in the Tug. The fuckery that led to 2008-09 was a bi-partisan mess. Same with the Iraq War. Hillary and Kerry both voted for that shit. Obama wasn't a federal office holder yet so I don't put my stock in his anti war stance at the time.
    Which conservative here lacks objectivity and hasn't condemned GOP leadership for the last 30 years? The swamp is loaded with Republicans too. The difference between the conservatives on this site and the liberals is that conservatives aren't above calling out Rupublican politicians and their love of government. Liberals will NEVER denounce Democrats and will ALWAYS support big government. So again i ask you which conservatives on this site lack objectivity when it comes to denouncing politicians and the government of the United States of America in its entirety?
    Follow the thread. I responded to @Sledog 's blaming Dems for the 2008- 09 financial collapse. This did not seem like an objective comment to me.
    you're wasting your time
    No he's not

    He's not a coward

    Those dishes won't wash themselves you know. Best get busy
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    BearsWiin said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    S&P 500 tripled from ‘09 to ‘17 but hey the 35% rise while Trump has been in office ain’t bad I guess...

    Well first Obama tanked the economy. Then it came back to normal jackass
    We can debate his policy responses, but Obama wasn’t POTUS when the economy tanked.
    Which of the things that leftists love to cite as the cause(s) of the recession did Obama oppose? And you're correct, he wasn't President when the economy tanked but he was President for the anemic recovery and his policies were directly responsible for that.
    But it was Democrat policies that caused the housing bubble and massive collapse.
    And yet the GOP had the WH and both houses for most (not all) of 2001- 2009 but somehow it was the Dem’s policies.
    November 7, 2006 — California Representative Nancy Pelosi and Nevada Senator Harry Reid lead the Democratic Party in taking control of both the House and the Senate in the 2006 congressional elections, the first time in 12 years the Democrats secure control of both houses of Congress simultaneously.

    The Dem policies were from the 90's when it was racist not to give mortgages

    The laws provided the insurance for the lenders to make bad loans and threatened them with the consequences if they didn't

    That added up to a lot of bad paper that was mingled with good paper which caused the collapse

    Nobody is really innocent. The collusion of Wall Street and our tax dollars is the root cause which no one wants to address

    Bidness as usual
    100% agree. My objection here is the lack of objectivity from my conservative frens in the Tug. The fuckery that led to 2008-09 was a bi-partisan mess. Same with the Iraq War. Hillary and Kerry both voted for that shit. Obama wasn't a federal office holder yet so I don't put my stock in his anti war stance at the time.
    Which conservative here lacks objectivity and hasn't condemned GOP leadership for the last 30 years? The swamp is loaded with Republicans too. The difference between the conservatives on this site and the liberals is that conservatives aren't above calling out Rupublican politicians and their love of government. Liberals will NEVER denounce Democrats and will ALWAYS support big government. So again i ask you which conservatives on this site lack objectivity when it comes to denouncing politicians and the government of the United States of America in its entirety?
    Follow the thread. I responded to @Sledog 's blaming Dems for the 2008- 09 financial collapse. This did not seem like an objective comment to me.
    you're wasting your time
    THIS.

  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,211 Founders Club

    BearsWiin said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    S&P 500 tripled from ‘09 to ‘17 but hey the 35% rise while Trump has been in office ain’t bad I guess...

    Well first Obama tanked the economy. Then it came back to normal jackass
    We can debate his policy responses, but Obama wasn’t POTUS when the economy tanked.
    Which of the things that leftists love to cite as the cause(s) of the recession did Obama oppose? And you're correct, he wasn't President when the economy tanked but he was President for the anemic recovery and his policies were directly responsible for that.
    But it was Democrat policies that caused the housing bubble and massive collapse.
    And yet the GOP had the WH and both houses for most (not all) of 2001- 2009 but somehow it was the Dem’s policies.
    November 7, 2006 — California Representative Nancy Pelosi and Nevada Senator Harry Reid lead the Democratic Party in taking control of both the House and the Senate in the 2006 congressional elections, the first time in 12 years the Democrats secure control of both houses of Congress simultaneously.

    The Dem policies were from the 90's when it was racist not to give mortgages

    The laws provided the insurance for the lenders to make bad loans and threatened them with the consequences if they didn't

    That added up to a lot of bad paper that was mingled with good paper which caused the collapse

    Nobody is really innocent. The collusion of Wall Street and our tax dollars is the root cause which no one wants to address

    Bidness as usual
    100% agree. My objection here is the lack of objectivity from my conservative frens in the Tug. The fuckery that led to 2008-09 was a bi-partisan mess. Same with the Iraq War. Hillary and Kerry both voted for that shit. Obama wasn't a federal office holder yet so I don't put my stock in his anti war stance at the time.
    Which conservative here lacks objectivity and hasn't condemned GOP leadership for the last 30 years? The swamp is loaded with Republicans too. The difference between the conservatives on this site and the liberals is that conservatives aren't above calling out Rupublican politicians and their love of government. Liberals will NEVER denounce Democrats and will ALWAYS support big government. So again i ask you which conservatives on this site lack objectivity when it comes to denouncing politicians and the government of the United States of America in its entirety?
    Follow the thread. I responded to @Sledog 's blaming Dems for the 2008- 09 financial collapse. This did not seem like an objective comment to me.
    you're wasting your time
    No he's not

    He's not a coward

    Those dishes won't wash themselves you know. Best get busy
    If we are here to bash @BearsWiin 's lifestyle and standard of living, I'm out.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    BearsWiin said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    S&P 500 tripled from ‘09 to ‘17 but hey the 35% rise while Trump has been in office ain’t bad I guess...

    Well first Obama tanked the economy. Then it came back to normal jackass
    We can debate his policy responses, but Obama wasn’t POTUS when the economy tanked.
    Which of the things that leftists love to cite as the cause(s) of the recession did Obama oppose? And you're correct, he wasn't President when the economy tanked but he was President for the anemic recovery and his policies were directly responsible for that.
    But it was Democrat policies that caused the housing bubble and massive collapse.
    And yet the GOP had the WH and both houses for most (not all) of 2001- 2009 but somehow it was the Dem’s policies.
    November 7, 2006 — California Representative Nancy Pelosi and Nevada Senator Harry Reid lead the Democratic Party in taking control of both the House and the Senate in the 2006 congressional elections, the first time in 12 years the Democrats secure control of both houses of Congress simultaneously.

    The Dem policies were from the 90's when it was racist not to give mortgages

    The laws provided the insurance for the lenders to make bad loans and threatened them with the consequences if they didn't

    That added up to a lot of bad paper that was mingled with good paper which caused the collapse

    Nobody is really innocent. The collusion of Wall Street and our tax dollars is the root cause which no one wants to address

    Bidness as usual
    100% agree. My objection here is the lack of objectivity from my conservative frens in the Tug. The fuckery that led to 2008-09 was a bi-partisan mess. Same with the Iraq War. Hillary and Kerry both voted for that shit. Obama wasn't a federal office holder yet so I don't put my stock in his anti war stance at the time.
    Which conservative here lacks objectivity and hasn't condemned GOP leadership for the last 30 years? The swamp is loaded with Republicans too. The difference between the conservatives on this site and the liberals is that conservatives aren't above calling out Rupublican politicians and their love of government. Liberals will NEVER denounce Democrats and will ALWAYS support big government. So again i ask you which conservatives on this site lack objectivity when it comes to denouncing politicians and the government of the United States of America in its entirety?
    Follow the thread. I responded to @Sledog 's blaming Dems for the 2008- 09 financial collapse. This did not seem like an objective comment to me.
    you're wasting your time
    No he's not

    He's not a coward

    Those dishes won't wash themselves you know. Best get busy
    If we are here to bash @BearsWiin 's lifestyle and standard of living, I'm out.
    If he can't stand the heat he should get out of the kitchen















    lol
    The best chefs are men

    HTH
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,211 Founders Club

    BearsWiin said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    S&P 500 tripled from ‘09 to ‘17 but hey the 35% rise while Trump has been in office ain’t bad I guess...

    Well first Obama tanked the economy. Then it came back to normal jackass
    We can debate his policy responses, but Obama wasn’t POTUS when the economy tanked.
    Which of the things that leftists love to cite as the cause(s) of the recession did Obama oppose? And you're correct, he wasn't President when the economy tanked but he was President for the anemic recovery and his policies were directly responsible for that.
    But it was Democrat policies that caused the housing bubble and massive collapse.
    And yet the GOP had the WH and both houses for most (not all) of 2001- 2009 but somehow it was the Dem’s policies.
    November 7, 2006 — California Representative Nancy Pelosi and Nevada Senator Harry Reid lead the Democratic Party in taking control of both the House and the Senate in the 2006 congressional elections, the first time in 12 years the Democrats secure control of both houses of Congress simultaneously.

    The Dem policies were from the 90's when it was racist not to give mortgages

    The laws provided the insurance for the lenders to make bad loans and threatened them with the consequences if they didn't

    That added up to a lot of bad paper that was mingled with good paper which caused the collapse

    Nobody is really innocent. The collusion of Wall Street and our tax dollars is the root cause which no one wants to address

    Bidness as usual
    100% agree. My objection here is the lack of objectivity from my conservative frens in the Tug. The fuckery that led to 2008-09 was a bi-partisan mess. Same with the Iraq War. Hillary and Kerry both voted for that shit. Obama wasn't a federal office holder yet so I don't put my stock in his anti war stance at the time.
    Which conservative here lacks objectivity and hasn't condemned GOP leadership for the last 30 years? The swamp is loaded with Republicans too. The difference between the conservatives on this site and the liberals is that conservatives aren't above calling out Rupublican politicians and their love of government. Liberals will NEVER denounce Democrats and will ALWAYS support big government. So again i ask you which conservatives on this site lack objectivity when it comes to denouncing politicians and the government of the United States of America in its entirety?
    Follow the thread. I responded to @Sledog 's blaming Dems for the 2008- 09 financial collapse. This did not seem like an objective comment to me.
    you're wasting your time
    No he's not

    He's not a coward

    Those dishes won't wash themselves you know. Best get busy
    If we are here to bash @BearsWiin 's lifestyle and standard of living, I'm out.
    If he can't stand the heat he should get out of the kitchen















    lol
    The best chefs are men

    HTH
    Forget about it...


  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    BearsWiin said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    S&P 500 tripled from ‘09 to ‘17 but hey the 35% rise while Trump has been in office ain’t bad I guess...

    Well first Obama tanked the economy. Then it came back to normal jackass
    We can debate his policy responses, but Obama wasn’t POTUS when the economy tanked.
    Which of the things that leftists love to cite as the cause(s) of the recession did Obama oppose? And you're correct, he wasn't President when the economy tanked but he was President for the anemic recovery and his policies were directly responsible for that.
    But it was Democrat policies that caused the housing bubble and massive collapse.
    And yet the GOP had the WH and both houses for most (not all) of 2001- 2009 but somehow it was the Dem’s policies.
    November 7, 2006 — California Representative Nancy Pelosi and Nevada Senator Harry Reid lead the Democratic Party in taking control of both the House and the Senate in the 2006 congressional elections, the first time in 12 years the Democrats secure control of both houses of Congress simultaneously.

    The Dem policies were from the 90's when it was racist not to give mortgages

    The laws provided the insurance for the lenders to make bad loans and threatened them with the consequences if they didn't

    That added up to a lot of bad paper that was mingled with good paper which caused the collapse

    Nobody is really innocent. The collusion of Wall Street and our tax dollars is the root cause which no one wants to address

    Bidness as usual
    100% agree. My objection here is the lack of objectivity from my conservative frens in the Tug. The fuckery that led to 2008-09 was a bi-partisan mess. Same with the Iraq War. Hillary and Kerry both voted for that shit. Obama wasn't a federal office holder yet so I don't put my stock in his anti war stance at the time.
    Which conservative here lacks objectivity and hasn't condemned GOP leadership for the last 30 years? The swamp is loaded with Republicans too. The difference between the conservatives on this site and the liberals is that conservatives aren't above calling out Rupublican politicians and their love of government. Liberals will NEVER denounce Democrats and will ALWAYS support big government. So again i ask you which conservatives on this site lack objectivity when it comes to denouncing politicians and the government of the United States of America in its entirety?
    Follow the thread. I responded to @Sledog 's blaming Dems for the 2008- 09 financial collapse. This did not seem like an objective comment to me.
    you're wasting your time
    No he's not

    He's not a coward

    Those dishes won't wash themselves you know. Best get busy
    If we are here to bash @BearsWiin 's lifestyle and standard of living, I'm out.
    If he can't stand the heat he should get out of the kitchen















    lol
    The best chefs are men

    HTH


  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,641 Standard Supporter

    BearsWiin said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    S&P 500 tripled from ‘09 to ‘17 but hey the 35% rise while Trump has been in office ain’t bad I guess...

    Well first Obama tanked the economy. Then it came back to normal jackass
    We can debate his policy responses, but Obama wasn’t POTUS when the economy tanked.
    Which of the things that leftists love to cite as the cause(s) of the recession did Obama oppose? And you're correct, he wasn't President when the economy tanked but he was President for the anemic recovery and his policies were directly responsible for that.
    But it was Democrat policies that caused the housing bubble and massive collapse.
    And yet the GOP had the WH and both houses for most (not all) of 2001- 2009 but somehow it was the Dem’s policies.
    November 7, 2006 — California Representative Nancy Pelosi and Nevada Senator Harry Reid lead the Democratic Party in taking control of both the House and the Senate in the 2006 congressional elections, the first time in 12 years the Democrats secure control of both houses of Congress simultaneously.

    The Dem policies were from the 90's when it was racist not to give mortgages

    The laws provided the insurance for the lenders to make bad loans and threatened them with the consequences if they didn't

    That added up to a lot of bad paper that was mingled with good paper which caused the collapse

    Nobody is really innocent. The collusion of Wall Street and our tax dollars is the root cause which no one wants to address

    Bidness as usual
    100% agree. My objection here is the lack of objectivity from my conservative frens in the Tug. The fuckery that led to 2008-09 was a bi-partisan mess. Same with the Iraq War. Hillary and Kerry both voted for that shit. Obama wasn't a federal office holder yet so I don't put my stock in his anti war stance at the time.
    Which conservative here lacks objectivity and hasn't condemned GOP leadership for the last 30 years? The swamp is loaded with Republicans too. The difference between the conservatives on this site and the liberals is that conservatives aren't above calling out Rupublican politicians and their love of government. Liberals will NEVER denounce Democrats and will ALWAYS support big government. So again i ask you which conservatives on this site lack objectivity when it comes to denouncing politicians and the government of the United States of America in its entirety?
    Follow the thread. I responded to @Sledog 's blaming Dems for the 2008- 09 financial collapse. This did not seem like an objective comment to me.
    you're wasting your time
    No he's not

    He's not a coward

    Those dishes won't wash themselves you know. Best get busy
    If we are here to bash @BearsWiin 's lifestyle and standard of living, I'm out.
    If he can't stand the heat he should get out of the kitchen















    lol
    His husband keeps him barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,145

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    S&P 500 tripled from ‘09 to ‘17 but hey the 35% rise while Trump has been in office ain’t bad I guess...

    Well first Obama tanked the economy. Then it came back to normal jackass
    We can debate his policy responses, but Obama wasn’t POTUS when the economy tanked.
    Which of the things that leftists love to cite as the cause(s) of the recession did Obama oppose? And you're correct, he wasn't President when the economy tanked but he was President for the anemic recovery and his policies were directly responsible for that.
    But it was Democrat policies that caused the housing bubble and massive collapse.
    And yet the GOP had the WH and both houses for most (not all) of 2001- 2009 but somehow it was the Dem’s policies.
    November 7, 2006 — California Representative Nancy Pelosi and Nevada Senator Harry Reid lead the Democratic Party in taking control of both the House and the Senate in the 2006 congressional elections, the first time in 12 years the Democrats secure control of both houses of Congress simultaneously.

    The Dem policies were from the 90's when it was racist not to give mortgages

    The laws provided the insurance for the lenders to make bad loans and threatened them with the consequences if they didn't

    That added up to a lot of bad paper that was mingled with good paper which caused the collapse

    Nobody is really innocent. The collusion of Wall Street and our tax dollars is the root cause which no one wants to address

    Bidness as usual
    100% agree. My objection here is the lack of objectivity from my conservative frens in the Tug. The fuckery that led to 2008-09 was a bi-partisan mess. Same with the Iraq War. Hillary and Kerry both voted for that shit. Obama wasn't a federal office holder yet so I don't put my stock in his anti war stance at the time.
    W took the hit almost by himself along with Wall Street

    You may have notice that Bush isn't real popular other than among you never trumper types
    Fuck Bush and his entire entitled family.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,211 Founders Club

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    S&P 500 tripled from ‘09 to ‘17 but hey the 35% rise while Trump has been in office ain’t bad I guess...

    Well first Obama tanked the economy. Then it came back to normal jackass
    We can debate his policy responses, but Obama wasn’t POTUS when the economy tanked.
    Which of the things that leftists love to cite as the cause(s) of the recession did Obama oppose? And you're correct, he wasn't President when the economy tanked but he was President for the anemic recovery and his policies were directly responsible for that.
    But it was Democrat policies that caused the housing bubble and massive collapse.
    And yet the GOP had the WH and both houses for most (not all) of 2001- 2009 but somehow it was the Dem’s policies.
    November 7, 2006 — California Representative Nancy Pelosi and Nevada Senator Harry Reid lead the Democratic Party in taking control of both the House and the Senate in the 2006 congressional elections, the first time in 12 years the Democrats secure control of both houses of Congress simultaneously.

    The Dem policies were from the 90's when it was racist not to give mortgages

    The laws provided the insurance for the lenders to make bad loans and threatened them with the consequences if they didn't

    That added up to a lot of bad paper that was mingled with good paper which caused the collapse

    Nobody is really innocent. The collusion of Wall Street and our tax dollars is the root cause which no one wants to address

    Bidness as usual
    100% agree. My objection here is the lack of objectivity from my conservative frens in the Tug. The fuckery that led to 2008-09 was a bi-partisan mess. Same with the Iraq War. Hillary and Kerry both voted for that shit. Obama wasn't a federal office holder yet so I don't put my stock in his anti war stance at the time.
    W took the hit almost by himself along with Wall Street

    You may have notice that Bush isn't real popular other than among you never trumper types
    Fuck Bush and his entire entitled family.
    Bush 41 was a good man, decent President and legit war hero (he was only one medal below CMH).
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,661

    GDS said:

    S&P 500 tripled from ‘09 to ‘17 but hey the 35% rise while Trump has been in office ain’t bad I guess...

    Well first Obama tanked the economy. Then it came back to normal jackass
    We can debate his policy responses, but Obama wasn’t POTUS when the economy tanked.
    Bullshit asshole