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Apparently, there's a gay NFL player...
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If that's not an embedded lemon drop, I'm not sure what is.Passion said:
For the first NFL player that "comes out," his performance on the field is irrelevant, IMO. Rather, it's the courage to step out of the closet in perhaps the most machismo professional sport. There are already ways to recognize great players - MVP, Pro Bowl, increased salary, bonus, etc. I don't quite see anything wrong with positive public recognition of a guy that becomes the first to say he's gay.HillsboroDuck said:
Ironically enough, whoever it is is going to become the next Tim Tebow, albeit to a different group of people. Whichever active player is the first to come out is going to cause a media circus and be painted as a national hero no matter how crappy of a football player he may or may not be. He will become bigger than the team, and his story will become bigger than wins and losses.section8 said:Tim Tebow?
Like Tebow he'll obviously have his share of haters, but in this case they'll be mostly relegated to anonymous message boards, private conversations and a few randoms yelling slurs from the stands. No one in the mainstream media will dare say anything but the most glowing things possible, and the home stadium will fill up with signs of support. His jersey sales will increase tenfold at a bare minimum.
I'm sure it's not him, but the player who would stand the most to gain from coming out is Michael Vick. More likely it's someone fairly anonymous who will never be anonymous again.
You said the "mainstream media" will not criticize him. Well, why would the media criticize him? If he fumbles the ball, misses tackles, or drops passes, then criticize him like any other player. But criticize just because he's gay?
Heck, when grinolds, fetters, and eklund eventually reveal their own torrid love triangle, I will still limit my criticism to the way they've destroyed dawgman.com.
Well done, sir.
I'm just saying that whoever it is this is going to be, by far, the best thing that ever happened to their image.
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You should do more. If you don't do the red symbol, then how will everyone know how progressive and open minded you are? And it doesn't even cost you anything. I'm a bit more action oriented. I'm thinking banging a lesbian to show my solidarity.Passion said:Actually, I didn't do the red sign. What I did do, however, is sit back and make snarky comments on the internet about anyone who cared about it. Actually, that's what I do about anyone that cares about anything.
Btw. Use the word snarky here again and you're going to get a time out. Friggin A.
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Well, I think if it's Peyton Manning or Brian Urlacher, it's a little more complicated. Their reputations are already pretty awesome. If it's a 3rd string offensive linemen for the Detroit Lions, then I probably agree with you. Where the hell would Jesse Palmer be if he hadn't gone on "The Bachelor?" What a douche...HillsboroDuck said:
If that's not an embedded lemon drop, I'm not sure what is.Passion said:
For the first NFL player that "comes out," his performance on the field is irrelevant, IMO. Rather, it's the courage to step out of the closet in perhaps the most machismo professional sport. There are already ways to recognize great players - MVP, Pro Bowl, increased salary, bonus, etc. I don't quite see anything wrong with positive public recognition of a guy that becomes the first to say he's gay.HillsboroDuck said:
Ironically enough, whoever it is is going to become the next Tim Tebow, albeit to a different group of people. Whichever active player is the first to come out is going to cause a media circus and be painted as a national hero no matter how crappy of a football player he may or may not be. He will become bigger than the team, and his story will become bigger than wins and losses.section8 said:Tim Tebow?
Like Tebow he'll obviously have his share of haters, but in this case they'll be mostly relegated to anonymous message boards, private conversations and a few randoms yelling slurs from the stands. No one in the mainstream media will dare say anything but the most glowing things possible, and the home stadium will fill up with signs of support. His jersey sales will increase tenfold at a bare minimum.
I'm sure it's not him, but the player who would stand the most to gain from coming out is Michael Vick. More likely it's someone fairly anonymous who will never be anonymous again.
You said the "mainstream media" will not criticize him. Well, why would the media criticize him? If he fumbles the ball, misses tackles, or drops passes, then criticize him like any other player. But criticize just because he's gay?
Heck, when grinolds, fetters, and eklund eventually reveal their own torrid love triangle, I will still limit my criticism to the way they've destroyed dawgman.com.
Well done, sir.
I'm just saying that whoever it is this is going to be, by far, the best thing that ever happened to their image. -
Most of the lesbians I've seen aren't "bangable." You might as well hook up with Danny Devito.MikeDamone said:
You should do more. If you don't do the red symbol, then how will everyone know how progressive and open minded you are? And it doesn't even cost you anything. I'm a bit more action oriented. I'm thinking banging a lesbian to show my solidarity.Passion said:Actually, I didn't do the red sign. What I did do, however, is sit back and make snarky comments on the internet about anyone who cared about it. Actually, that's what I do about anyone that cares about anything.
Btw. Use the word snarky here again and you're going to get a time out. Friggin A.
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I hope it's Michael Vick. People (and the media) wanted him drawn and quartered for killing dogs with more hate than of he'd killed people. If he turns out to be gay, they will have to embrace him as a hero. That would be fun to see. Coming out would undo all past wrongs. It would be a great PR move. FREE PUB!
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They are out there if you dig around a bit.Passion said:
Most of the lesbians I've seen aren't "bangable." You might as well hook up with Danny Devito.MikeDamone said:
You should do more. If you don't do the red symbol, then how will everyone know how progressive and open minded you are? And it doesn't even cost you anything. I'm a bit more action oriented. I'm thinking banging a lesbian to show my solidarity.Passion said:Actually, I didn't do the red sign. What I did do, however, is sit back and make snarky comments on the internet about anyone who cared about it. Actually, that's what I do about anyone that cares about anything.
Btw. Use the word snarky here again and you're going to get a time out. Friggin A.
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I like how Kim has been trying to spread this rumor. He's been running around for the past 4 months telling people that Chip is gay.WhiskeyDawg said:Duh. Chip Kelly is now in the NFL.
Even if its true, it's truly a case of who gives a shit. If my favorite teams' football coach went 46-7, won 3 conference titles, went to 4 BCS games including the National Championship game, and won a Rose Bowl and popped off.... he could be gayer than Rock Hudson and Greg Louganis put together and I'd be fine with it.
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Not so fast. I think it'd be a mixed bag. You'd have the animal rights people fighting the gay rights people. Maybe Don King can promote it?MikeDamone said:I hope it's Michael Vick. People (and the media) wanted him drawn and quartered for killing dogs with more hate than of he'd killed people. If he turns out to be gay, they will have to embrace him as a hero. That would be fun to see. Coming out would undo all past wrongs. It would be a great PR move. FREE PUB!
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The beauty of it is the gay rights people and the animal rights people are mostly the same people.Passion said:
Not so fast. I think it'd be a mixed bag. You'd have the animal rights people fighting the gay rights people. Maybe Don King can promote it?MikeDamone said:I hope it's Michael Vick. People (and the media) wanted him drawn and quartered for killing dogs with more hate than of he'd killed people. If he turns out to be gay, they will have to embrace him as a hero. That would be fun to see. Coming out would undo all past wrongs. It would be a great PR move. FREE PUB!
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Tebow was criticized and mocked for being overly open about his faith. The mainstream media typically goes out of their way to mock Christianity.Passion said:
For the first NFL player that "comes out," his performance on the field is irrelevant, IMO. Rather, it's the courage to step out of the closet in perhaps the most machismo professional sport. There are already ways to recognize great players - MVP, Pro Bowl, increased salary, bonus, etc. I don't quite see anything wrong with positive public recognition of a guy that becomes the first to say he's gay.HillsboroDuck said:
Ironically enough, whoever it is is going to become the next Tim Tebow, albeit to a different group of people. Whichever active player is the first to come out is going to cause a media circus and be painted as a national hero no matter how crappy of a football player he may or may not be. He will become bigger than the team, and his story will become bigger than wins and losses.section8 said:Tim Tebow?
Like Tebow he'll obviously have his share of haters, but in this case they'll be mostly relegated to anonymous message boards, private conversations and a few randoms yelling slurs from the stands. No one in the mainstream media will dare say anything but the most glowing things possible, and the home stadium will fill up with signs of support. His jersey sales will increase tenfold at a bare minimum.
I'm sure it's not him, but the player who would stand the most to gain from coming out is Michael Vick. More likely it's someone fairly anonymous who will never be anonymous again.
You said the "mainstream media" will not criticize him. Well, why would the media criticize him? If he fumbles the ball, misses tackles, or drops passes, then criticize him like any other player. But criticize just because he's gay?
Heck, when grinolds, fetters, and eklund eventually reveal their own torrid love triangle, I will still limit my criticism to the way they've destroyed dawgman.com.
Now if an NFL player comes out, he'll be praised as a hero, full of courage and an inspiration to the world.
In my opinion, bigging fucking deal for either of them. Tebow sucks as a QB. The gay guy might be an all-pro or a 3rd stringer. As he does his fucking job, who cares which hole he prefers?
