Apparently, there's a gay NFL player...

CheersWestDawg

that's about to come out soon.

Who do you guys think it is?

CheersWestDawg

Sven's $20 to whoever guesses correctly.

RaceBannon

Depending on who you believe its anywhere from 1% to 10% of the league as that is the overall number. The over under is 5%

HuskyJW

Almost got in a fight in Corvallis when I made fun of Esera Tualo (sp).......

CheersWestDawg

I bet it's a kicker or punter.

Passion

I don't want to get into a fight with any of you, but I think it's about time. First of all, I applaud the NFL for not allowing teams to ask about sexual orientation during the combine interviews. Why the hell should it matter? If some players have problems with a gay teammate, then THEY are the ones with the problem! If a gay player isn't making inappropriate advances toward a teammate (or breaking some other neutral code of conduct provision), then who cares?

I was pretty ticked off at Hugh Millen for saying (on KJR) that teams should have the right to ask about this. Uhh...why, Hugh? Should they also ask if a player is a Jew? Muslim? Catholic? How about if he is black but dates white women? Millen also said that some teams have more of an interest because they are in more difficult communities (San Francisco vs. Houston). So, fans will stop coming to games because 1 player is gay?

Apologies for going on a rant (actually...I'm not sorry). It's just time to get over this. I have plenty of gay friends in DC, and none of them have ever made me feel the least bit uncomfortable.

Now...allowing whites and blacks to use the same restrooms? That is something I can't tolerate. :-)

CheersWestDawg

Passion said:

I don't want to get into a fight with any of you, but I think it's about time. First of all, I applaud the NFL for not allowing teams to ask about sexual orientation during the combine interviews. Why the hell should it matter? If some players have problems with a gay teammate, then THEY are the ones with the problem! If a gay player isn't making inappropriate advances toward a teammate (or breaking some other neutral code of conduct provision), then who cares?

I was pretty ticked off at Hugh Millen for saying (on KJR) that teams should have the right to ask about this. Uhh...why, Hugh? Should they also ask if a player is a Jew? Muslim? Catholic? How about if he is black but dates white women? Millen also said that some teams have more of an interest because they are in more difficult communities (San Francisco vs. Houston). So, fans will stop coming to games because 1 player is gay?

Apologies for going on a rant (actually...I'm not sorry). It's just time to get over this. I have plenty of gay friends in DC, and none of them have ever made me feel the least bit uncomfortable.

Now...allowing whites and blacks to use the same restrooms? That is something I can't tolerate. :-)

So...who do you think it is?

Passion

uhhh...probably not Ben Roethlesberger.

section8

Tim Tebow?

MikeDamone

Probably a running back. Best play is hitting the two hole.

Btw. I supports the gays. I support the troops and am against war. I'm also anti poverty. I hate cancer and I want to save the tatas. I'm against global warming and am pro clean water for everyone. I think the income inequity in this country is a travesty and think we should hate 1% because the get rich off the backs of the 99%. I am also anti gmo food. I'm a hit at cocktail parties. Everyone thinks I'm really cool because I show I care about others and that we should share.

MikeDamone

$100 says Passion changed his Facebook picture to the red equal sign. It's the least he could do. So he did that.

CheersWestDawg

MikeDamone said:

Probably a running back. Best play is hitting the two hole.

Btw. I supports the gays. I support the troops and am against war. I'm also anti poverty. I hate cancer and I want to save the tatas. I'm against global warming and am pro clean water for everyone. I think the income inequity in this country is a travesty and think we should hate 1% because the get rich off the backs of the 99%. I am also anti gmo food. I'm a hit at cocktail parties. Everyone thinks I'm really cool because I show I care about others and that we should share.

I bet you're also against hunger, too.

Passion

Actually, I didn't do the red sign. What I did do, however, is sit back and make snarky comments on the internet about anyone who cared about it. Actually, that's what I do about anyone that cares about anything.

RaceBannon

Passion said:

Actually, I didn't do the red sign. What I did do, however, is sit back and make snarky comments on the internet about anyone who cared about it. Actually, that's what I do about anyone that cares about anything.

That was pretty good

Passion

RaceBannon said:

Passion said:

Actually, I didn't do the red sign. What I did do, however, is sit back and make snarky comments on the internet about anyone who cared about it. Actually, that's what I do about anyone that cares about anything.

That was pretty good

I'm learning the culture of this website. Gawd help me if it completely takes over my personality.

DerekJohnson

Passion said:

RaceBannon said:

Passion said:

Actually, I didn't do the red sign. What I did do, however, is sit back and make snarky comments on the internet about anyone who cared about it. Actually, that's what I do about anyone that cares about anything.

That was pretty good

I'm learning the culture of this website. Gawd help me if it completely takes over my personality.

Resistance is futile, young Skywalker

WhiskeyDawg

Duh. Chip Kelly is now in the NFL.

HillsboroDuck

I'll keep my answer on the down low.

HillsboroDuck

section8 said:

Tim Tebow?

Ironically enough, whoever it is is going to become the next Tim Tebow, albeit to a different group of people. Whichever active player is the first to come out is going to cause a media circus and be painted as a national hero no matter how crappy of a football player he may or may not be. He will become bigger than the team, and his story will become bigger than wins and losses.

Like Tebow he'll obviously have his share of haters, but in this case they'll be mostly relegated to anonymous message boards, private conversations and a few randoms yelling slurs from the stands. No one in the mainstream media will dare say anything but the most glowing things possible, and the home stadium will fill up with signs of support. His jersey sales will increase tenfold at a bare minimum.

I'm sure it's not him, but the player who would stand the most to gain from coming out is Michael Vick. More likely it's someone fairly anonymous who will never be anonymous again.

HillsboroDuck

Passion said:

RaceBannon said:

Passion said:

Actually, I didn't do the red sign. What I did do, however, is sit back and make snarky comments on the internet about anyone who cared about it. Actually, that's what I do about anyone that cares about anything.

That was pretty good

I'm learning the culture of this website. Gawd help me if it completely takes over my personality.

Some things can't be unlearned.

HardcoreHusky will invade real life. Believe dat.

Passion

HillsboroDuck said:

section8 said:

Tim Tebow?

Ironically enough, whoever it is is going to become the next Tim Tebow, albeit to a different group of people. Whichever active player is the first to come out is going to cause a media circus and be painted as a national hero no matter how crappy of a football player he may or may not be. He will become bigger than the team, and his story will become bigger than wins and losses.

Like Tebow he'll obviously have his share of haters, but in this case they'll be mostly relegated to anonymous message boards, private conversations and a few randoms yelling slurs from the stands. No one in the mainstream media will dare say anything but the most glowing things possible, and the home stadium will fill up with signs of support. His jersey sales will increase tenfold at a bare minimum.

I'm sure it's not him, but the player who would stand the most to gain from coming out is Michael Vick. More likely it's someone fairly anonymous who will never be anonymous again.

For the first NFL player that "comes out," his performance on the field is irrelevant, IMO. Rather, it's the courage to step out of the closet in perhaps the most machismo professional sport. There are already ways to recognize great players - MVP, Pro Bowl, increased salary, bonus, etc. I don't quite see anything wrong with positive public recognition of a guy that becomes the first to say he's gay.

You said the "mainstream media" will not criticize him. Well, why would the media criticize him? If he fumbles the ball, misses tackles, or drops passes, then criticize him like any other player. But criticize just because he's gay?

Heck, when grinolds, fetters, and eklund eventually reveal their own torrid love triangle, I will still limit my criticism to the way they've destroyed dawgman.com.