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The only good thing about Lake to HC

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  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,708 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    Yeah, I was so excited for a real season I wasn’t going to let shitty recruiting affect my optimism. I thought we were talented. We lost to fucking Montana.

    The assistant coach failures were a stronger indicator than the recruiting issues. The recruiting issues just point back to the failure to hire an assistant worth a damn.
    Lake has hired 3 assistants so far? Donovan, Cato and the DL coach.

    Cato was the only somewhat acceptable hire - it’s not crazy to promote a GA to be the TE coach.

    The other 2 hires? Twash!
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    Disagree. Installing Lake is a no-brainer. It hopefully keeps the aspects of Petersen that made this program successful, and injects an energy that was holding it back.
    And I don't care if Lake has yet to prove himself as a defensive play caller. He doesn't need to do that anymore. We know he can build a defense, he can recruit like an animal, and he's a top-notch motivator in a profession where that quality is almost half the battle these days. I don't think anyone else on the staff has the potential to be an elite head coach besides Lake, and going outside of the program for a new-hire would be throwing out the baby with the bath water.

    Jesus. LOL. Epic.
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club
    Swaye said:

    Lake can start winning me over by firing Bob Gregory. Tomorrow.

    So we can see I was very unsure of this hire from day 1, and when Gregory became DC my worst nightmare was realized. Lake has to go. Not one metric in this program points to long term success. Not one.
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    Yeah, I was so excited for a real season I wasn’t going to let shitty recruiting affect my optimism. I thought we were talented. We lost to fucking Montana.

    The assistant coach failures were a stronger indicator than the recruiting issues. The recruiting issues just point back to the failure to hire an assistant worth a damn.
    This. So much this. My uncertainty and general feeling of "this guy is going to suck" all started with coach hires/retention. If JonDon is the best you can do for an OC I just knew we were cooked. Canary in the coal mine as I've been saying. Then when Kwat left, which was a huge indicator in and of itself, and we tapped GREGORY to replace him, I knew 100% we were well and truly fucked. We can't recruit because we don't have recruiters and Lake is not half the closer Petey was.
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club
    FRANNY
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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Based on results of the Montana loss, Jimmy Lake is a terrible recruiter.

    Clearly, he should have poached half of Montana’s roster but, couldn’t spot the talent or couldn’t close.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    dnc said:

    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    dnc said:

    FremontTroll said:

    I get the idea that the best candidate likely doesn’t just happen to already be at UW.

    But in the case of a mostly successful program there are strong considerations to maintaining the culture and continuity.

    UW has the talent on the roster. UW doesn’t need an overhaul just a recharge. Lake can keep the best parts of CP’s program while also putting his own stamp on the program.

    I think it’s worth rolling the dice on Lake instead of blowing it up.

    This is definitely the pro Lake argument.

    Hopefully it works out.
    Yep, that thinking I can dig.
    I just think it's optimistic to think "Lake can keep the best parts of Pete's program." We don't know that at all. Hopefully Kwat wants to coach here for another ten years. If that's the case this has a much better chance of working out. I'm not optimistic Lake has the stones to make a big time OC hire but if he does I'll be wishing I could delete this thread rather quickly. That would say a whole lot.
    Jimmy's gonna hire Paul Johnson and completely turn the conference on its head. #60RushesFTW
    Grumble should have bumped the hell out of this call with a RUN THE DAMN BALL pic
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