Look, if anyone has a right to be angry about Petersen’s implosion it’s ME! I adored that man. Besides his BRB, JO silver fox appeal, he guided the team back to Pasadena, and I will forever be thankful to him for getting it so I could go to my first Rose Bowl. For that he’s earned another year, and if I’m a Doog for saying that, so be it.
HOWEVER!
They say your job hunt begins the moment you land a new position. If I were Cohen I would start shopping around. Pete’s definitely on notice, regardless of the AC outcome.
That awkward moment when Pete's wife informs him of a "help wanted head football coach" ad on Craigslist.
This board has gone soft. Demanding the firing of coaches for not going 15-0 is what we do.
It’s something that’s easy to call for cause it isn’t going to happen. Long run odds are that wanting him fired is the correct call, and if proven wrong well then that’s fun and awesome.
Odds are Pete probably isn't going to be Dabo and we aren't leveling up to Clemson. But I'd say for the moment, it's longer odds that his replacement would be an improvement. There just aren't that many infallible, walk on water coaches out there.
Furthermore, our own history suggest, if you give a coach who's had some good success 17 years they can get it done, eventually
Cohen landed Hopkins. She could definitely land the next great up-and-comer football coach
This board has gone soft. Demanding the firing of coaches for not going 15-0 is what we do.
It’s something that’s easy to call for cause it isn’t going to happen. Long run odds are that wanting him fired is the correct call, and if proven wrong well then that’s fun and awesome.
Odds are Pete probably isn't going to be Dabo and we aren't leveling up to Clemson. But I'd say for the moment, it's longer odds that his replacement would be an improvement. There just aren't that many infallible, walk on water coaches out there.
Furthermore, our own history suggest, if you give a coach who's had some good success 17 years they can get it done, eventually
Pete won’t coach for another 5 years
Retirement has always been the endgame. This season may change the timming.
This board has gone soft. Demanding the firing of coaches for not going 15-0 is what we do.
It’s something that’s easy to call for cause it isn’t going to happen. Long run odds are that wanting him fired is the correct call, and if proven wrong well then that’s fun and awesome.
Odds are Pete probably isn't going to be Dabo and we aren't leveling up to Clemson. But I'd say for the moment, it's longer odds that his replacement would be an improvement. There just aren't that many infallible, walk on water coaches out there.
Furthermore, our own history suggest, if you give a coach who's had some good success 17 years they can get it done, eventually
Pete won’t coach for another 5 years
Retirement has always been the endgame. This season may change the timming.
What happens if he never has the season he wants to go out on?
This board has gone soft. Demanding the firing of coaches for not going 15-0 is what we do.
It’s something that’s easy to call for cause it isn’t going to happen. Long run odds are that wanting him fired is the correct call, and if proven wrong well then that’s fun and awesome.
Odds are Pete probably isn't going to be Dabo and we aren't leveling up to Clemson. But I'd say for the moment, it's longer odds that his replacement would be an improvement. There just aren't that many infallible, walk on water coaches out there.
Furthermore, our own history suggest, if you give a coach who's had some good success 17 years they can get it done, eventually
Cohen landed Hopkins. She could definitely land the next great up-and-comer football coach
And women’s row boat. She backed up the brinks truck on that one.
He's not going to get any better, so he needs to be replaced. He's shit the bed and got crushed in 3 straight NY6 bowels. How many times does a guy have to lose before he earns the mantle of "Loser?" He's also lost literally every "Big Game" the dawgs have played in during his tenure. Anybody who stands up to his Mountain West fake tuffness kicks his ass. He is not a great coach, nor worthy of the 5 mil per year we're paying him in UW's vulnerable state to erase the memories of Willingham. He won't get fired, but I'll enjoy watching him coach to keep his job next year. But UW will still keep him through 2021, at least, I predict.
Stanford and Colorado have cemented his fate. Pete sucks... His offense and comportment is hot garbage. The dude likes a boat commute and a hot cup of fancy java. Enjoy that $336,333 game check per loss.
Jimmy Lake is shit on game day. Give the defense back to Kwat and go back to coaching up the secondary. OR just go drive your hellcat around Bellevue.
Burn it down. The team is extremely boring to watch. I can't remember a season of falling asleep or turning it off more than this year.
He has yet to take much, if any responsbility for this. If I'm wrong, post the link, because I am not a presser guy, I just watch on Saturdays and like listening to Hugh blow away drunk Dick occasionally.
That always bugs me about coaches, even good ones. You can criticize players, but take responsiblity too. Ty always threw everyone under the bus. Fuck him. Don James took a lot of responsibilty for the 1985 to 1989 seasons.
But definitely start creating or updating the short list. Put Chip Long on the list if he is not already there. I don't want him going anywhere until Sam and JT are in the boat.
I don’t want Pete fires, but that has nothing to do with fear over losing recruits. Guys get hurt, underachieve, and are overrated all the time. You shouldn’t ever make a decision based on recruiting or player’s wishes.
He's not going to get any better, so he needs to be replaced. He's shit the bed and got crushed in 3 straight NY6 bowels. How many times does a guy have to lose before he earns the mantle of "Loser?" He's also lost literally every "Big Game" the dawgs have played in during his tenure. Anybody who stands up to his Mountain West fake tuffness kicks his ass. He is not a great coach, nor worthy of the 5 mil per year we're paying him in UW's vulnerable state to erase the memories of Willingham. He won't get fired, but I'll enjoy watching him coach to keep his job next year. But UW will still keep him through 2021, at least, I predict.
PAC 12 titles games aren’t big games? I guarantee if we lost them they would be. Same of some of the Apple Cups, Oregon games that we won, Stanford.
The losses to shitty teams are worse than the ones in big games to me.
It’s disappointing. These labels are stupid tho. Jay Wright and Tony Bennett got bounced early every NCAA tournament before they broke thru.
Gotta get yourself in the position to play in big games first.
He's not going to get any better, so he needs to be replaced. He's shit the bed and got crushed in 3 straight NY6 bowels. How many times does a guy have to lose before he earns the mantle of "Loser?" He's also lost literally every "Big Game" the dawgs have played in during his tenure. Anybody who stands up to his Mountain West fake tuffness kicks his ass. He is not a great coach, nor worthy of the 5 mil per year we're paying him in UW's vulnerable state to erase the memories of Willingham. He won't get fired, but I'll enjoy watching him coach to keep his job next year. But UW will still keep him through 2021, at least, I predict.
There are still much better odds that he gets better and wins an actual bowl game than us hiring a new coach who can get it done.
However, I wouldn't put my money on either happening. If there's one thing Pete is right about it's that it's fucking hard. I no longer have faith in him being the guy to contend for a national title. I also don't have faith that we'd be able to hire a guy who will be anything more than a marginal improvement over Sark. Most coaches lose, and most programs lose. We are most programs. 2019 is the year all hope in this program died. Throw some dirt on us.
Pete choked the 2 biggest games of the year, and lost to 3 dog shit teams that shouldn’t even be able to contend with us. Sure we haven’t beat USC that often, but they suck this year, so who fucking cares now.
The annual no show game against an inferior opponents, the annual shit your pants against a talented team game, and the annual offensive woes are proof that he is who he is. If he turns it around next year and we return to NY6, I’ll ease up, but I’m guessing we are in for more of the same.
Pete choked the 2 biggest games of the year, and lost to 3 dog shit teams that shouldn’t even be able to contend with us. Sure we haven’t beat USC that often, but they suck this year, so who fucking cares now.
The annual no show game against an inferior opponents, the annual shit your pants against a talented team game, and the annual offensive woes are proof that he is who he is. If he turns it around next year and we return to NY6, I’ll ease up, but I’m guessing we are in for more of the same.
Nothing will change.
Gotta fix it now or it will continue. Pete is very late to make changes. I would fire him if there was actually a chance to get a sure upgrade, but I doubt there is so I’ll stick with the mostly consistent winner and hold onto doog hope that he can string together some big years.
I mean if Rural Meyer reached out, yeah fucking fire his ass...no brainer...but he's still a good coach. I'm not ready to fire him at this point. He's clearly not elite though. It's about whether or not he gets there. He might.
Unpopular (around here) opinion: I'm not a win at all cost guy. If I wanted to see "my guys" lie, cheat, and steal their way to a championship, I'd just skip football altogether and follow politics. Although I'm sure there's at least some amount of grey (or beyond) area travelling to avoid being completely noncompetitive, I like that the staff runs a relatively clean program. I like not having a Louis CK moment once or twice per season and finding out that the guy I was just cheering for Saturday beat the shit out of his girlfriend, stole some lady's purse, or raped a sorority girl earlier in the season, and I'm just now hearing about it. I like that Petersen tends to genuinely care about the players' futures and well being. Call me a pussy, but that kind of stuff gives me the warm tinglies. Hire Urbs, and Washington's in the playoffs again by '21. And I'll be watching something else. So it's with no small amount of cognitive dissonance that I'm starting to haaaaaaate Chris Petersen. I hate his fucking clock management. I hate his fucking lack of preparation two or three times per season. I hate his fucking squandering of talent. I hate how fucking tedious it is to watch every loss and every win. I hate how every time this team plays somebody with even slightly more talent, I have ZERO hope of victory. Zero. By the end of last season, I was already starting to hate-watch games, but at least I was mostly hate-watching wins. There were a lot of markers of program stability: Every loss is close, no blowouts, solid defense always, excellent fundamentals like tackling, don't give up big plays, don't lose consecutive games, don't lose after a bye, solid upper tier recruiting, players improving every year in the program, a steady stream of NFLers coming out of the program, focus on the trenches, etc. That stability suggested that a ridiculously frustrating ten wins was the floor, and it seemed insane to complain about that, frustrating or not. This season, every single one of those markers of stability have been ratfucked away. All of the goodwill and benefit of the doubt have been thrown in the trash. Program momentum is a large number with a negative sign in front. It makes all that tedium and annoyance and all of those warts all the more awful: "You used to be a shitty game day coach who's perhaps the best Sunday through Friday coach in the country, so the wins come anyway. Now you're a shitty game day coach who loses to Colorado and Cal. It's not worth it anymore." I want a coach who does things the right way, so I don't want to fire Chris Petersen. But I also want to win, and I'm increasingly thinking Chris Petersen isn't the guy for that. So I'm kind of at a loss. I'm getting a lot more work done around the house on Saturdays now, though, so at least I've got that going for me. Which is nice.
This is exactly how I feel. To the fucking T. You have joined my spirit animal group (I actually think we already figured this out over the summer).
Pete has one chance to fix this. Either he can or he can’t. I expect him to, but, my faith is eroding.
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He's also lost literally every "Big Game" the dawgs have played in during his tenure. Anybody who stands up to his Mountain West fake tuffness kicks his ass. He is not a great coach, nor worthy of the 5 mil per year we're paying him in UW's vulnerable state to erase the memories of Willingham.
He won't get fired, but I'll enjoy watching him coach to keep his job next year.
But UW will still keep him through 2021, at least, I predict.
Jimmy Lake is shit on game day. Give the defense back to Kwat and go back to coaching up the secondary. OR just go drive your hellcat around Bellevue.
Burn it down. The team is extremely boring to watch. I can't remember a season of falling asleep or turning it off more than this year.
That always bugs me about coaches, even good ones. You can criticize players, but take responsiblity too. Ty always threw everyone under the bus. Fuck him. Don James took a lot of responsibilty for the 1985 to 1989 seasons.
The losses to shitty teams are worse than the ones in big games to me.
It’s disappointing. These labels are stupid tho. Jay Wright and Tony Bennett got bounced early every NCAA tournament before they broke thru.
Gotta get yourself in the position to play in big games first.
However, I wouldn't put my money on either happening. If there's one thing Pete is right about it's that it's fucking hard. I no longer have faith in him being the guy to contend for a national title. I also don't have faith that we'd be able to hire a guy who will be anything more than a marginal improvement over Sark. Most coaches lose, and most programs lose. We are most programs. 2019 is the year all hope in this program died. Throw some dirt on us.
The annual no show game against an inferior opponents, the annual shit your pants against a talented team game, and the annual offensive woes are proof that he is who he is. If he turns it around next year and we return to NY6, I’ll ease up, but I’m guessing we are in for more of the same.
Nothing will change.
This is exactly how I feel. To the fucking T. You have joined my spirit animal group (I actually think we already figured this out over the summer).
Pete has one chance to fix this. Either he can or he can’t. I expect him to, but, my faith is eroding.