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Just like the net neutrality horseshit

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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    The sky is falling over withdrawal from the Paris climate accord was also horseshit.

    https://mises.org/wire/two-years-after-trumps-exit-paris-agreement-its-proven-be-farce

    You do realize we haven't exited from the Paris Accord yet. Right?
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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 13,988
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    Are you trying to tell me that our incompetent government bureaucrats that can't handle basic public service can design the internet. You know who doesn't want the merger of Sprint and Tmobile? Ignorant leftards and Verizon and AT&T.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Are you trying to tell me that our incompetent government bureaucrats that can't handle basic public service can design the internet. You know who doesn't want the merger of Sprint and Tmobile? Ignorant leftards and Verizon and AT&T.

    Having rules designed to ensure some traffic isn't favored equals "design the internet" in your world. How dumb can you be?
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    oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
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    Daboner & Westlinn want to give AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, Comcast et. al. the last word when it comes to what information and services we're allowed to access and which ones we aren't.

    The basic gist of Net Neutrality is to prevent ISPs from throttling access to the free market, which Daboner obviously hates.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Amazing how both sides argue free market on the opposite side of the argument.
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    Daboner & Westlinn want to give AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, Comcast et. al. the last word when it comes to what information and services we're allowed to access and which ones we aren't.

    The basic gist of Net Neutrality is to prevent ISPs from throttling access to the free market, which Daboner obviously hates.

    OregonBlitzFag wants the government to stifle competition,innovation, create monopolies, and pick winners and losers and have the last word on who you get Internet service from. He’s a loser
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    oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
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    2001400ex said:

    Amazing how both sides argue free market on the opposite side of the argument.

    Daboner's position supports the throttling of the free market. I already linked actual, real examples of ISP monopolies like AT&T limiting access to competitor products. How long before such monopolies expand their abuse and start limiting access to websites that oppose their business practices or their politics?
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    Funny how the government is ok charging people more to drive in a less crowded lane on the freeway who chose to pay the fee for the privilege of going faster. OBF thinks everyone should be equally miserable in the slow lane.
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    oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
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    Big government commies support toll roads that are already paid for by taxes.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Funny how the government is ok charging people more to drive in a less crowded lane on the freeway who chose to pay the fee for the privilege of going faster. OBF thinks everyone should be equally miserable in the slow lane.

    Mike now hates states rights. And roads still have nothing to do with the internet.
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    oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
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    Mike hates free markets and hates the idea of a free internet. He wants large corporations like AT&T to control what info, apps and services we have access to and which ones we don't. Sort of like how he wants wants corporate America to set immigration policy, which means unrestricted open borders for the cheap labor. Mike wants to see a corporate dictatorship, where the biggest monopoly sets all the rules and runs the kingdom.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Mike hates free markets and hates the idea of a free internet. He wants large corporations like AT&T to control what info, apps and services we have access to and which ones we don't. Sort of like how he wants wants corporate America to set immigration policy, which means unrestricted open borders for the cheap labor. Mike wants to see a corporate dictatorship, where the biggest monopoly sets all the rules and runs the kingdom.

    That happened with citizens United.
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    LebamDawgLebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,554
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    let's compare the internet to water supplies

    http://mrsc.org/Home/Explore-Topics/Environment/Water-Topics/Water-Shortage-Use-Restrictions.aspx

    Financial Impacts and Emergency Surcharges

    Declarations of water emergencies and water shortages can have financial impacts that may not be addressed in the water shortage response plan. While the objective is to reduce water consumption, reduced consumption means reduced revenue, and there should be a plan to mitigate the impacts on current and future budgets when such an emergency arises.

    A water shortage response plan that anticipates these financial impacts by implementing temporary rate increases or by incorporating contingency funds and/or reserve funds for water emergencies into the budget process will minimize the loss of revenues and provide a source of income to help stabilize the water fund during such critical times.

    Some municipalities have adopted provisions allowing them to increase water rates during a declared water emergency. Water surcharges encourage conservation and also mitigate some of the fiscal impacts associated with reduced water consumption. Sometimes these surcharges are uniform and established in the city code, and other times they may be variable and adopted at the time of the shortage.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,607
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    2001400ex said:

    Mike hates free markets and hates the idea of a free internet. He wants large corporations like AT&T to control what info, apps and services we have access to and which ones we don't. Sort of like how he wants wants corporate America to set immigration policy, which means unrestricted open borders for the cheap labor. Mike wants to see a corporate dictatorship, where the biggest monopoly sets all the rules and runs the kingdom.

    That happened with citizens United.
    What a moron
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    oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
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    edited November 2019

    Are you trying to tell me that our incompetent government bureaucrats that can't handle basic public service can design the internet. You know who doesn't want the merger of Sprint and Tmobile? Ignorant leftards and Verizon and AT&T.

    You like monopolies and also think they are good for the free market. Like Dabonehead, you think it's great to give ISPs the power to control the internet of information and services, and not limit them to simply being the access points, like the utilities that they are. Of course Verizon and AT&T don't want Sprint and Tmobile to merger. Monopolies gonna monopoly.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    LebamDawg said:

    let's compare the internet to water supplies

    Why? They are two competition different situations.
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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 13,988
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    I'm not sure you noticed, but cellular infrastructure costs a lot of money. Sprint and TMobile are not competitive with Verizon or AT&T unless paying less for shitty coverage is your bag. One of the big problems with a new cellular rollout is the blackmail that has to be paid to the feds and local and state governments. Check your cell bill. So, with a merger we could have three competitive networks or just the two. I support more competition. You just spout leftard rhetoric. The development of the internet and cellular service is one of the great triumphs of capitalism and the free enterprise system. Feel free to ignore government incompetence and have the government run it. Just like they run Tri-Met - the supper cheap and efficient Portland transit system.
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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,605
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    Sprint and t mobile suck.
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    ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
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    People are so stubborn and proudly ignorant about net neutrality.

    Nobody is “handing the internet over to the government”. I mean, how fucking dumb do you have to be to think that’s how any of this works?

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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    Big government commies support toll roads that are already paid for by taxes.

    2001400ex said:

    Funny how the government is ok charging people more to drive in a less crowded lane on the freeway who chose to pay the fee for the privilege of going faster. OBF thinks everyone should be equally miserable in the slow lane.

    Mike now hates states rights. And roads still have nothing to do with the internet.
    2001400ex said:

    Mike hates free markets and hates the idea of a free internet. He wants large corporations like AT&T to control what info, apps and services we have access to and which ones we don't. Sort of like how he wants wants corporate America to set immigration policy, which means unrestricted open borders for the cheap labor. Mike wants to see a corporate dictatorship, where the biggest monopoly sets all the rules and runs the kingdom.

    That happened with citizens United.
    Citizens united has nothing to do with the internet....

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