Just like the net neutrality horseshit

MikeDamone

The sky is falling over withdrawal from the Paris climate accord was also horseshit.

https://mises.org/wire/two-years-after-trumps-exit-paris-agreement-its-proven-be-farce

oregonblitzkrieg

You like to give ISPs (utilities) carte blanche power to speed up or throttle traffic flow to websites of their choosing. That's what you like to do.

"ISPs are already violating the Old Net Neutrality Rules"

https://potsandpansbyccg.com/2019/02/13/isps-are-violating-the-old-net-neutrality-rules/

MikeDamone

oregonblitzkrieg said:

You like to give ISPs (utilities) carte blanche power to speed up or throttle traffic flow to websites of their choosing. That's what you like to do.

1) that didn’t happen
2) you like to give the state power over the free market when it’s not required. That’s what you like to do.

oregonblitzkrieg

AT&T is openly advertising that cellular customers can stream the company’s DirecTV Now product without it counting against monthly data caps. Meanwhile, all of the competing video services like Sling TV, Paystation Vue, YouTube TV, Netflix or Amazon Prime count against AT&T data caps – and video can quickly kill a monthly data plan download allotment. AT&T’s behavior is almost a pure textbook example of why net neutrality rules were put into place – to stop ISPs from putting competitor’s products at an automatic disadvantage. AT&T is the biggest cellular provider in the country and this creates a huge advantage for DirecTV Now. All of the major cellular carriers are doing something similar in allowing some video to not count against the monthly data cap, but AT&T is the only one pushing their own video product.

In November a large study of 100,000 cellphone users by Northeastern University and the University of Massachusetts showed that Sprint was throttling Skype. This is not something that the carrier announced, but it’s a clear case of pushing web traffic to the ‘Internet slow lane’. We can only speculate why Sprint would do this, but regardless of their motivation this is clearly a violation of net neutrality.

This same study showed numerous incidents where all of the major cellular carriers throttled video services at times. YouTube was the number one target of throttling, followed by Netflix, Amazon Prime, and the NBC Sports app

MikeDamone

oregonblitzkrieg said:

AT&T is openly advertising that cellular customers can stream the company’s DirecTV Now product without it counting against monthly data caps. Meanwhile, all of the competing video services like Sling TV, Paystation Vue, YouTube TV, Netflix or Amazon Prime count against AT&T data caps – and video can quickly kill a monthly data plan download allotment. AT&T’s behavior is almost a pure textbook example of why net neutrality rules were put into place – to stop ISPs from putting competitor’s products at an automatic disadvantage. AT&T is the biggest cellular provider in the country and this creates a huge advantage for DirecTV Now. All of the major cellular carriers are doing something similar in allowing some video to not count against the monthly data cap, but AT&T is the only one pushing their own video product.

In November a large study of 100,000 cellphone users by Northeastern University and the University of Massachusetts showed that Sprint was throttling Skype. This is not something that the carrier announced, but it’s a clear case of pushing web traffic to the ‘Internet slow lane’. We can only speculate why Sprint would do this, but regardless of their motivation this is clearly a violation of net neutrality.

This same study showed numerous incidents where all of the major cellular carriers throttled video services at times. YouTube was the number one target of throttling, followed by Netflix, Amazon Prime, and the NBC Sports app

? All of that is good. Why do you hate Competition and the market. OBK is as much of a statist as the HondoBros

oregonblitzkrieg

MikeDamone said:

oregonblitzkrieg said:

You like to give ISPs (utilities) carte blanche power to speed up or throttle traffic flow to websites of their choosing. That's what you like to do.

1) that didn’t happen
2) you like to give the state power over the free market when it’s not required. That’s what you like to do.

1.) It's already happening.
2.) You like to give ISPs power over the free internet when it's not required. That's what you like to do.

oregonblitzkrieg

MikeDamone said:

oregonblitzkrieg said:

AT&T is openly advertising that cellular customers can stream the company’s DirecTV Now product without it counting against monthly data caps. Meanwhile, all of the competing video services like Sling TV, Paystation Vue, YouTube TV, Netflix or Amazon Prime count against AT&T data caps – and video can quickly kill a monthly data plan download allotment. AT&T’s behavior is almost a pure textbook example of why net neutrality rules were put into place – to stop ISPs from putting competitor’s products at an automatic disadvantage. AT&T is the biggest cellular provider in the country and this creates a huge advantage for DirecTV Now. All of the major cellular carriers are doing something similar in allowing some video to not count against the monthly data cap, but AT&T is the only one pushing their own video product.

In November a large study of 100,000 cellphone users by Northeastern University and the University of Massachusetts showed that Sprint was throttling Skype. This is not something that the carrier announced, but it’s a clear case of pushing web traffic to the ‘Internet slow lane’. We can only speculate why Sprint would do this, but regardless of their motivation this is clearly a violation of net neutrality.

This same study showed numerous incidents where all of the major cellular carriers throttled video services at times. YouTube was the number one target of throttling, followed by Netflix, Amazon Prime, and the NBC Sports app

? All of that is good. Why do you hate Competition and the market. OBK is as much of a statist as the HondoBros

What a stupid argument, probably the dumbest argument you have ever made on this forum. How is it good competition to allow ISP monopolies to throttle or speed up traffic to websites of their choosing? It harms smaller competitors. Also what happens when ISPs start getting political and decide to throttle traffic to conservative websites while simultaneously speeding up the flow of traffic to sites like CNN and the Bezos Post?

MikeDamone

oregonblitzkrieg said:

MikeDamone said:

oregonblitzkrieg said:

You like to give ISPs (utilities) carte blanche power to speed up or throttle traffic flow to websites of their choosing. That's what you like to do.

1) that didn’t happen
2) you like to give the state power over the free market when it’s not required. That’s what you like to do.

1.) It's already happening.
2.) You like to give ISPs power over the free internet when it's not required. That's what you like to do.

ISPs are the free market.

OBK and the HondoBros. Two sides of the same statist coin. Just like be proved last week. The more you dig the more you find leftists and the far right are really the same. ANTIFA and the proud boys both love government to control people.

Gwad

MikeDamone doesn't know about monopolies. SAD.

Gwad

or maybe hes a soy boy for rober barons who knows with this guy

MikeDamone

Gwad said:

MikeDamone doesn't know about monopolies. SAD.

I know that the state creates monopolies. Without they state they don’t and can’t last.

Sounds like you don’t know about monopolies

oregonblitzkrieg

MikeDamone said:

oregonblitzkrieg said:

MikeDamone said:

oregonblitzkrieg said:

You like to give ISPs (utilities) carte blanche power to speed up or throttle traffic flow to websites of their choosing. That's what you like to do.

1) that didn’t happen
2) you like to give the state power over the free market when it’s not required. That’s what you like to do.

1.) It's already happening.
2.) You like to give ISPs power over the free internet when it's not required. That's what you like to do.

ISPs are the free market.

OBK and the HondoBros. Two sides of the same statist coin. Just like be proved last week. The more you dig the more you find leftists and the far right are really the same. ANTIFA and the proud boys both love government to control people.

No they are not. ISPs are utilities that provide access to the internet. Now apply your FS argument to another scenario. Water companies are utilities that provide access to water. Lets start allowing water utilities to speed up or throttle the delivery of water to certain homes and businesses and not others.

MikeDamone

Gwad said:

or maybe hes a soy boy for rober barons who knows with this guy

Gwad and OBK. Different sides of the same coin.

oregonblitzkrieg

MikeDamone said:

Gwad said:

or maybe hes a soy boy for rober barons who knows with this guy

Gwad and OBK. Different sides of the same coin.

You're struggling in this thread and trying to deflect to other issues. Lets keep on topic: Your desire to see the government help large monopolies like AT&T rig the free market of the internet, by allowing ISP utilities to speed up and throttle traffic to websites of their choosing, which they've already begun to do. Or were you one of those idiots who believed Verizon and AT&T when they promised to not engage in these practices?

MikeDamone

oregonblitzkrieg said:

MikeDamone said:

Gwad said:

or maybe hes a soy boy for rober barons who knows with this guy

Gwad and OBK. Different sides of the same coin.

You're struggling in this thread and trying to deflect to other issues. Lets keep on topic: Your desire to see the government help large monopolies like AT&T rig the free market of the internet, by allowing ISP utilities to speed up and throttle traffic to websites of their choosing, which they've already begun to do. Or were you one of those idiots who believed Verizon and AT&T when they promised to not engage in these practices?

My original issue was the Paris accord. Try to keep up.

You’re rudimentary understanding of economics and what creates companies like AT&T is forcing to align with fascists and socialists. But from a racist like you I’d expect as much. You and Hondo. Bros for life.

https://mises.org/library/myth-natural-monopoly

oregonblitzkrieg

What do fascists, socialists, racists and the Hondo Bros have to do with net neutrality? Maybe your argument is just weak and you're trying to tread water.

Gwad

over 100 million Americans have one option for an internet provider......

Gwad

oregonblitzkrieg said:

What do fascists, socialists, racists and the Hondo Bros have to do with net neutrality? Maybe your argument is just weak and you're trying to tread water.

MikeDamone has an above rudimentary understanding of economics though!

MikeDamone

oregonblitzkrieg said:

What do fascists, socialists, racists and the Hondo Bros have to do with net neutrality? Maybe your argument is just weak and you're trying to tread water.

1) you’re a racist. Established fact

2) fascists. Socialists, HondoBros and racists (you) want government to create pretend monopolies so government can heroically break up the monopolies they created with even more control and stifling of the market and meddling in it.

oregonblitzkrieg

The real horseshit is the entire GOP lining up to support that shitbag Ajit Pai, a former corporate attorney for Verizon, in advancing his agenda of helping monopolies like Verizon and AT&T kill competition in favor of directing traffic to their own platforms and services, by throttling access to competitor websites. He's the same shithead who is spearheading the forced rollout of 5g, along with rules that forbid local governments from effectively opposing the rollout of this untested and dangerous technology. Sounds like a real 'free market' sort of guy. A real DKG. Damone's kind of guy.

oregonblitzkrieg

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