Just like the net neutrality horseshit
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OregonBlitzFag loves it when the government stifles the market, creates monopolies, the pretends to be the hero that breaks them up. Typical conservative stooge.oregonblitzkrieg said:
So I guess you're with DabonHer. You sound like a typical GOP, fall in line with everything the party does, stooge, they can do no wrong. Why? Because the democrats suck. Sorry, that's not a good enough reason to justify turning over the Internet to the ISP monopolies so they can have sole discretion over what info, apps, products, websites you and I have access to. I've already cited examples of what they are starting to do by way of throttling the competition. Keep toeing the party line though, like a good little minion. I'm guessing you also support Verizon shill, FCC chairman Ajit Pai's forced rollout of 5g. Your own local government is forbidden to oppose it.WestlinnDuck said:I really hate it when my internet and cellphone are magnitudes better than 10 years ago. Unlike my commute on I-5. You want to turn the internet over to the same people who can't build a new bridge over the Columbia, can't build an Obamacare website, can't fix the Portland pot holes etc. Look at electricity prices in Cali. Like leftards and fascistscare about price and reliability for the working man.
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oregonblitzkrieg said:
"I know you are but what am I."MikeDamone said:
OregonBlitzFag hates the free market and thinks the government needs to have the power to decide what you do and don’t have access to online.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Daboner hates the free market and thinks AT&T and Verizon need to have the power to decide what you do and don't have access to online.Pitchfork51 said:Problem with isp shit is that it's not a free market at all. It's terrible rigged bullshit
You're making some really skrong arguments in support of your position.
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Damone is always respectful of others.MikeDamone said:
And that’s my point, dumbfuck. The monopoly can’t exist without your beloved government. Then they want to ride in and “fix it” by taking it over. Fuck off. Statist.oregonblitzkrieg said:The real horseshit is the entire GOP lining up to support that shitbag Ajit Pai, a former corporate attorney for Verizon, in advancing his agenda of helping monopolies like Verizon and AT&T kill competition in favor of directing traffic to their own platforms and services, by throttling access to competitor websites. He's the same shithead who is spearheading the forced rollout of 5g, along with rules that forbid local governments from effectively opposing the rollout of this untested and dangerous technology. Sounds like a real 'free market' sort of guy. A real DKG. Damone's kind of guy.
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Go fuck yourself.TheKobeStopper said:
Damone is always respectful of others.MikeDamone said:
And that’s my point, dumbfuck. The monopoly can’t exist without your beloved government. Then they want to ride in and “fix it” by taking it over. Fuck off. Statist.oregonblitzkrieg said:The real horseshit is the entire GOP lining up to support that shitbag Ajit Pai, a former corporate attorney for Verizon, in advancing his agenda of helping monopolies like Verizon and AT&T kill competition in favor of directing traffic to their own platforms and services, by throttling access to competitor websites. He's the same shithead who is spearheading the forced rollout of 5g, along with rules that forbid local governments from effectively opposing the rollout of this untested and dangerous technology. Sounds like a real 'free market' sort of guy. A real DKG. Damone's kind of guy.
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More respect and maturity.
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More DIAFFTheKobeStopper said:More respect and maturity.
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GWAD and OBK in bed together. I’m not surprised. Statists gonna State.
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Sweet emotional reactionGwad said:
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Are you really trying to equate potholes and shit to just ensuring that internet traffic isn't favored for one source over another?WestlinnDuck said:I really hate it when my internet and cellphone are magnitudes better than 10 years ago. Unlike my commute on I-5. You want to turn the internet over to the same people who can't build a new bridge over the Columbia, can't build an Obamacare website, can't fix the Portland pot holes etc. Look at electricity prices in Cali. Like leftards and fascistscare about price and reliability for the working man.
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You do realize we haven't exited from the Paris Accord yet. Right?MikeDamone said:The sky is falling over withdrawal from the Paris climate accord was also horseshit.
https://mises.org/wire/two-years-after-trumps-exit-paris-agreement-its-proven-be-farce -
Are you trying to tell me that our incompetent government bureaucrats that can't handle basic public service can design the internet. You know who doesn't want the merger of Sprint and Tmobile? Ignorant leftards and Verizon and AT&T.
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Having rules designed to ensure some traffic isn't favored equals "design the internet" in your world. How dumb can you be?WestlinnDuck said:Are you trying to tell me that our incompetent government bureaucrats that can't handle basic public service can design the internet. You know who doesn't want the merger of Sprint and Tmobile? Ignorant leftards and Verizon and AT&T.
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Daboner & Westlinn want to give AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, Comcast et. al. the last word when it comes to what information and services we're allowed to access and which ones we aren't.
The basic gist of Net Neutrality is to prevent ISPs from throttling access to the free market, which Daboner obviously hates. -
Amazing how both sides argue free market on the opposite side of the argument.
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OregonBlitzFag wants the government to stifle competition,innovation, create monopolies, and pick winners and losers and have the last word on who you get Internet service from. He’s a loseroregonblitzkrieg said:Daboner & Westlinn want to give AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, Comcast et. al. the last word when it comes to what information and services we're allowed to access and which ones we aren't.
The basic gist of Net Neutrality is to prevent ISPs from throttling access to the free market, which Daboner obviously hates. -
Daboner's position supports the throttling of the free market. I already linked actual, real examples of ISP monopolies like AT&T limiting access to competitor products. How long before such monopolies expand their abuse and start limiting access to websites that oppose their business practices or their politics?2001400ex said:Amazing how both sides argue free market on the opposite side of the argument.
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Funny how the government is ok charging people more to drive in a less crowded lane on the freeway who chose to pay the fee for the privilege of going faster. OBF thinks everyone should be equally miserable in the slow lane.
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Big government commies support toll roads that are already paid for by taxes.
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Mike now hates states rights. And roads still have nothing to do with the internet.MikeDamone said:Funny how the government is ok charging people more to drive in a less crowded lane on the freeway who chose to pay the fee for the privilege of going faster. OBF thinks everyone should be equally miserable in the slow lane.
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Mike hates free markets and hates the idea of a free internet. He wants large corporations like AT&T to control what info, apps and services we have access to and which ones we don't. Sort of like how he wants wants corporate America to set immigration policy, which means unrestricted open borders for the cheap labor. Mike wants to see a corporate dictatorship, where the biggest monopoly sets all the rules and runs the kingdom.
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That happened with citizens United.oregonblitzkrieg said:Mike hates free markets and hates the idea of a free internet. He wants large corporations like AT&T to control what info, apps and services we have access to and which ones we don't. Sort of like how he wants wants corporate America to set immigration policy, which means unrestricted open borders for the cheap labor. Mike wants to see a corporate dictatorship, where the biggest monopoly sets all the rules and runs the kingdom.
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let's compare the internet to water supplies
http://mrsc.org/Home/Explore-Topics/Environment/Water-Topics/Water-Shortage-Use-Restrictions.aspx
Financial Impacts and Emergency Surcharges
Declarations of water emergencies and water shortages can have financial impacts that may not be addressed in the water shortage response plan. While the objective is to reduce water consumption, reduced consumption means reduced revenue, and there should be a plan to mitigate the impacts on current and future budgets when such an emergency arises.
A water shortage response plan that anticipates these financial impacts by implementing temporary rate increases or by incorporating contingency funds and/or reserve funds for water emergencies into the budget process will minimize the loss of revenues and provide a source of income to help stabilize the water fund during such critical times.
Some municipalities have adopted provisions allowing them to increase water rates during a declared water emergency. Water surcharges encourage conservation and also mitigate some of the fiscal impacts associated with reduced water consumption. Sometimes these surcharges are uniform and established in the city code, and other times they may be variable and adopted at the time of the shortage. -
What a moron2001400ex said:
That happened with citizens United.oregonblitzkrieg said:Mike hates free markets and hates the idea of a free internet. He wants large corporations like AT&T to control what info, apps and services we have access to and which ones we don't. Sort of like how he wants wants corporate America to set immigration policy, which means unrestricted open borders for the cheap labor. Mike wants to see a corporate dictatorship, where the biggest monopoly sets all the rules and runs the kingdom.
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You like monopolies and also think they are good for the free market. Like Dabonehead, you think it's great to give ISPs the power to control the internet of information and services, and not limit them to simply being the access points, like the utilities that they are. Of course Verizon and AT&T don't want Sprint and Tmobile to merger. Monopolies gonna monopoly.WestlinnDuck said:Are you trying to tell me that our incompetent government bureaucrats that can't handle basic public service can design the internet. You know who doesn't want the merger of Sprint and Tmobile? Ignorant leftards and Verizon and AT&T.
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Why? They are two competition different situations.LebamDawg said:let's compare the internet to water supplies
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I'm not sure you noticed, but cellular infrastructure costs a lot of money. Sprint and TMobile are not competitive with Verizon or AT&T unless paying less for shitty coverage is your bag. One of the big problems with a new cellular rollout is the blackmail that has to be paid to the feds and local and state governments. Check your cell bill. So, with a merger we could have three competitive networks or just the two. I support more competition. You just spout leftard rhetoric. The development of the internet and cellular service is one of the great triumphs of capitalism and the free enterprise system. Feel free to ignore government incompetence and have the government run it. Just like they run Tri-Met - the supper cheap and efficient Portland transit system.
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Sprint and t mobile suck.
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People are so stubborn and proudly ignorant about net neutrality.
Nobody is “handing the internet over to the government”. I mean, how fucking dumb do you have to be to think that’s how any of this works?
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oregonblitzkrieg said:
Big government commies support toll roads that are already paid for by taxes.
2001400ex said:
Mike now hates states rights. And roads still have nothing to do with the internet.MikeDamone said:Funny how the government is ok charging people more to drive in a less crowded lane on the freeway who chose to pay the fee for the privilege of going faster. OBF thinks everyone should be equally miserable in the slow lane.
Citizens united has nothing to do with the internet....2001400ex said:
That happened with citizens United.oregonblitzkrieg said:Mike hates free markets and hates the idea of a free internet. He wants large corporations like AT&T to control what info, apps and services we have access to and which ones we don't. Sort of like how he wants wants corporate America to set immigration policy, which means unrestricted open borders for the cheap labor. Mike wants to see a corporate dictatorship, where the biggest monopoly sets all the rules and runs the kingdom.
