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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Here comes old man Race, lumbering into the ring.

    Most black children live with their father.

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr071.pdf

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2015/6/21/8820537/black-fathers-day

    I’m not taking Bob or his statistics seriously because I’ve linked this study before. And guess how much Damone cared that what he was saying was a complete lie? About as much as Bob will when he finds out.

    Guess how much your statistics don’t refute a fucking word I said.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    SFGbob said:



    Here comes old man Race, lumbering into the ring.

    Most black children live with their father.

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr071.pdf

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2015/6/21/8820537/black-fathers-day

    I’m not taking Bob or his statistics seriously because I’ve linked this study before. And guess how much Damone cared that what he was saying was a complete lie? About as much as Bob will when he finds out.

    Guess how much your statistics don’t refute a fucking word I said.
    See?
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    SFGbob said:

    they'd do something to address these facts:

    When Moynihan wrote in 1965 on the coming destruction of the Black family, the out-of-wedlock birth rate was 25% among Blacks. In 1991, 68% of Black children were born outside of marriage. In 2011, 72% of Black babies were born to unmarried mothers.

    Today those numbers are about 77% for blacks and 49% for Hispanics.

    This is the real driver of poverty and pretty much every other social ill you can think of, in America today.

    This post has nothing to do with race.

    Father Time remains undefeated.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,673 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    they'd do something to address these facts:

    When Moynihan wrote in 1965 on the coming destruction of the Black family, the out-of-wedlock birth rate was 25% among Blacks. In 1991, 68% of Black children were born outside of marriage. In 2011, 72% of Black babies were born to unmarried mothers.

    Today those numbers are about 77% for blacks and 49% for Hispanics.

    This is the real driver of poverty and pretty much every other social ill you can think of, in America today.

    This post has nothing to do with race.

    Father Time remains undefeated.
    Are the statistics real or not?
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,417 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    I think APAG's intentionally misrepresenting SFG's argument to fuck with him.

    Just my two cents here.

    This.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    they'd do something to address these facts:

    When Moynihan wrote in 1965 on the coming destruction of the Black family, the out-of-wedlock birth rate was 25% among Blacks. In 1991, 68% of Black children were born outside of marriage. In 2011, 72% of Black babies were born to unmarried mothers.

    Today those numbers are about 77% for blacks and 49% for Hispanics.

    This is the real driver of poverty and pretty much every other social ill you can think of, in America today.

    This post has nothing to do with race.

    Father Time remains undefeated.
    Are the statistics real or not?
    Whether they are real or not the are definitely racist.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    SFGbob said:

    they'd do something to address these facts:

    When Moynihan wrote in 1965 on the coming destruction of the Black family, the out-of-wedlock birth rate was 25% among Blacks. In 1991, 68% of Black children were born outside of marriage. In 2011, 72% of Black babies were born to unmarried mothers.

    Today those numbers are about 77% for blacks and 49% for Hispanics.

    This is the real driver of poverty and pretty much every other social ill you can think of, in America today.

    This post has nothing to do with race.

    Father Time remains undefeated.
    Are the statistics real or not?
    Who said they weren’t real?
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,195 Founders Club

    Every social ill in America is the fault of people of color.

    Imagine typing that out while thinking you’re not the racist.

    What do you suggest we do, Bob? I would love to hear from the non racist how he plans to control the birth rate of people of color.

    He doesn't need to. Your boy Bernie did that form him.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/05/bernie_sanders_abortion_and_population_control_are_important_parts_of_addressing_climate_change.html

    The last paragraph is quite interesting:

    "And the Mexico City agreement, which denies American aid to those organizations around the world that allow women to have abortions or even get involved in birth control to me is totally absurd. So I think especially in poor countries around the world where women do not necessarily want to have large numbers of babies and where they can have the opportunity through birth control to control the number of kids they have, is something I very, very strongly support," he concluded.

    But since it's under the umbrella of climate change, it's totally cool. Am I right APAG?
    This is giving women the choice on having a child or not. Bob is advocating for government controlled eugenics.
    You don't think society would be better off if 95% of our kids were born into a mom-dad family environment?
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,034 Standard Supporter

    Every social ill in America is the fault of people of color.

    Imagine typing that out while thinking you’re not the racist.

    What do you suggest we do, Bob? I would love to hear from the non racist how he plans to control the birth rate of people of color.

    He doesn't need to. Your boy Bernie did that form him.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/05/bernie_sanders_abortion_and_population_control_are_important_parts_of_addressing_climate_change.html

    The last paragraph is quite interesting:

    "And the Mexico City agreement, which denies American aid to those organizations around the world that allow women to have abortions or even get involved in birth control to me is totally absurd. So I think especially in poor countries around the world where women do not necessarily want to have large numbers of babies and where they can have the opportunity through birth control to control the number of kids they have, is something I very, very strongly support," he concluded.

    But since it's under the umbrella of climate change, it's totally cool. Am I right APAG?
    This is giving women the choice on having a child or not. Bob is advocating for government controlled eugenics.
    You don't think society would be better off if 95% of our kids were born into a mom-dad family environment?
    Progressive Sacrilege!!!
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,195 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    I think APAG's intentionally misrepresenting SFG's argument to fuck with him.

    Just my two cents here.

    APAG wants African-Americans to continue to be born out-of-wedlock and struggle in poverty, just so he can defend their rights and feel self-righteous about himself.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,417 Founders Club

    dnc said:

    I think APAG's intentionally misrepresenting SFG's argument to fuck with him.

    Just my two cents here.

    APAG wants African-Americans to continue to be born out-of-wedlock and struggle in poverty, just so he can defend their rights and feel self-righteous about himself.
    Nailed it.

    SJW FTW
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,417 Founders Club

    Every social ill in America is the fault of people of color.

    Imagine typing that out while thinking you’re not the racist.

    What do you suggest we do, Bob? I would love to hear from the non racist how he plans to control the birth rate of people of color.

    He doesn't need to. Your boy Bernie did that form him.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/05/bernie_sanders_abortion_and_population_control_are_important_parts_of_addressing_climate_change.html

    The last paragraph is quite interesting:

    "And the Mexico City agreement, which denies American aid to those organizations around the world that allow women to have abortions or even get involved in birth control to me is totally absurd. So I think especially in poor countries around the world where women do not necessarily want to have large numbers of babies and where they can have the opportunity through birth control to control the number of kids they have, is something I very, very strongly support," he concluded.

    But since it's under the umbrella of climate change, it's totally cool. Am I right APAG?
    This is giving women the choice on having a child or not. Bob is advocating for government controlled eugenics.
    You don't think society would be better off if 95% of our kids were born into a mom-dad family environment?
    ISAFNRC
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,673 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    they'd do something to address these facts:

    When Moynihan wrote in 1965 on the coming destruction of the Black family, the out-of-wedlock birth rate was 25% among Blacks. In 1991, 68% of Black children were born outside of marriage. In 2011, 72% of Black babies were born to unmarried mothers.

    Today those numbers are about 77% for blacks and 49% for Hispanics.

    This is the real driver of poverty and pretty much every other social ill you can think of, in America today.

    This post has nothing to do with race.

    Father Time remains undefeated.
    Are the statistics real or not?
    Who said they weren’t real?
    Case closed
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Every social ill in America is the fault of people of color.

    Imagine typing that out while thinking you’re not the racist.

    What do you suggest we do, Bob? I would love to hear from the non racist how he plans to control the birth rate of people of color.

    He doesn't need to. Your boy Bernie did that form him.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/05/bernie_sanders_abortion_and_population_control_are_important_parts_of_addressing_climate_change.html

    The last paragraph is quite interesting:

    "And the Mexico City agreement, which denies American aid to those organizations around the world that allow women to have abortions or even get involved in birth control to me is totally absurd. So I think especially in poor countries around the world where women do not necessarily want to have large numbers of babies and where they can have the opportunity through birth control to control the number of kids they have, is something I very, very strongly support," he concluded.

    But since it's under the umbrella of climate change, it's totally cool. Am I right APAG?
    This is giving women the choice on having a child or not. Bob is advocating for government controlled eugenics.
    You don't think society would be better off if 95% of our kids were born into a mom-dad family environment?
    All you need to do is look at the family status of every person who drops out of high school, ends up in prison, abuses drugs, grows up living in poverty and you'll find that the majority of every person in any of those categories were born out of wedlock and or live in a single parent household.

    Kids being born out of wedlock is the biggest driver of nearly all social pathologies you can think of.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,034 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    Every social ill in America is the fault of people of color.

    Imagine typing that out while thinking you’re not the racist.

    What do you suggest we do, Bob? I would love to hear from the non racist how he plans to control the birth rate of people of color.

    He doesn't need to. Your boy Bernie did that form him.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/05/bernie_sanders_abortion_and_population_control_are_important_parts_of_addressing_climate_change.html

    The last paragraph is quite interesting:

    "And the Mexico City agreement, which denies American aid to those organizations around the world that allow women to have abortions or even get involved in birth control to me is totally absurd. So I think especially in poor countries around the world where women do not necessarily want to have large numbers of babies and where they can have the opportunity through birth control to control the number of kids they have, is something I very, very strongly support," he concluded.

    But since it's under the umbrella of climate change, it's totally cool. Am I right APAG?
    This is giving women the choice on having a child or not. Bob is advocating for government controlled eugenics.
    You don't think society would be better off if 95% of our kids were born into a mom-dad family environment?
    All you need to do is look at the family status of every person who drops out of high school, ends up in prison, abuses drugs, grows up living in poverty and you'll find that the majority of every person in any of those categories were born out of wedlock and or live in a single parent household.

    Kids being born out of wedlock is the biggest driver of nearly all social pathologies you can think of.
    Taboo to mention that. What would the libs do without their pawns? They need all those fatherless homes to hang onto their power.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    Every social ill in America is the fault of people of color.

    Imagine typing that out while thinking you’re not the racist.

    What do you suggest we do, Bob? I would love to hear from the non racist how he plans to control the birth rate of people of color.

    He doesn't need to. Your boy Bernie did that form him.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/05/bernie_sanders_abortion_and_population_control_are_important_parts_of_addressing_climate_change.html

    The last paragraph is quite interesting:

    "And the Mexico City agreement, which denies American aid to those organizations around the world that allow women to have abortions or even get involved in birth control to me is totally absurd. So I think especially in poor countries around the world where women do not necessarily want to have large numbers of babies and where they can have the opportunity through birth control to control the number of kids they have, is something I very, very strongly support," he concluded.

    But since it's under the umbrella of climate change, it's totally cool. Am I right APAG?
    This is giving women the choice on having a child or not. Bob is advocating for government controlled eugenics.
    You don't think society would be better off if 95% of our kids were born into a mom-dad family environment?
    All you need to do is look at the family status of every person who drops out of high school, ends up in prison, abuses drugs, grows up living in poverty and you'll find that the majority of every person in any of those categories were born out of wedlock and or live in a single parent household.

    Kids being born out of wedlock is the biggest driver of nearly all social pathologies you can think of.
    Taboo to mention that. What would the libs do without their pawns? They need all those fatherless homes to hang onto their power.
    Well you can see what happens right here when you do talk about it. Leftists will scream racism. Btw, do you think any of these white liberals encourage any of their children to have kids out of wedlock? Of course not.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    Every social ill in America is the fault of people of color.

    Imagine typing that out while thinking you’re not the racist.

    What do you suggest we do, Bob? I would love to hear from the non racist how he plans to control the birth rate of people of color.

    He doesn't need to. Your boy Bernie did that form him.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/05/bernie_sanders_abortion_and_population_control_are_important_parts_of_addressing_climate_change.html

    The last paragraph is quite interesting:

    "And the Mexico City agreement, which denies American aid to those organizations around the world that allow women to have abortions or even get involved in birth control to me is totally absurd. So I think especially in poor countries around the world where women do not necessarily want to have large numbers of babies and where they can have the opportunity through birth control to control the number of kids they have, is something I very, very strongly support," he concluded.

    But since it's under the umbrella of climate change, it's totally cool. Am I right APAG?
    This is giving women the choice on having a child or not. Bob is advocating for government controlled eugenics.
    You don't think society would be better off if 95% of our kids were born into a mom-dad family environment?
    No, I do not think that.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    SFGbob said:

    Every social ill in America is the fault of people of color.

    Imagine typing that out while thinking you’re not the racist.

    What do you suggest we do, Bob? I would love to hear from the non racist how he plans to control the birth rate of people of color.

    He doesn't need to. Your boy Bernie did that form him.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/05/bernie_sanders_abortion_and_population_control_are_important_parts_of_addressing_climate_change.html

    The last paragraph is quite interesting:

    "And the Mexico City agreement, which denies American aid to those organizations around the world that allow women to have abortions or even get involved in birth control to me is totally absurd. So I think especially in poor countries around the world where women do not necessarily want to have large numbers of babies and where they can have the opportunity through birth control to control the number of kids they have, is something I very, very strongly support," he concluded.

    But since it's under the umbrella of climate change, it's totally cool. Am I right APAG?
    This is giving women the choice on having a child or not. Bob is advocating for government controlled eugenics.
    You don't think society would be better off if 95% of our kids were born into a mom-dad family environment?
    All you need to do is look at the family status of every person who drops out of high school, ends up in prison, abuses drugs, grows up living in poverty and you'll find that the majority of every person in any of those categories were born out of wedlock and or live in a single parent household.

    Kids being born out of wedlock is the biggest driver of nearly all social pathologies you can think of.
    See?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Every social ill in America is the fault of people of color.

    Imagine typing that out while thinking you’re not the racist.

    What do you suggest we do, Bob? I would love to hear from the non racist how he plans to control the birth rate of people of color.

    He doesn't need to. Your boy Bernie did that form him.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/05/bernie_sanders_abortion_and_population_control_are_important_parts_of_addressing_climate_change.html

    The last paragraph is quite interesting:

    "And the Mexico City agreement, which denies American aid to those organizations around the world that allow women to have abortions or even get involved in birth control to me is totally absurd. So I think especially in poor countries around the world where women do not necessarily want to have large numbers of babies and where they can have the opportunity through birth control to control the number of kids they have, is something I very, very strongly support," he concluded.

    But since it's under the umbrella of climate change, it's totally cool. Am I right APAG?
    This is giving women the choice on having a child or not. Bob is advocating for government controlled eugenics.
    You don't think society would be better off if 95% of our kids were born into a mom-dad family environment?
    No, I do not think that.


    Incarceration Rates
    "Young men who grow up in homes without fathers are twice as likely to end up in jail as those who come from traditional two-parent families...those boys whose fathers were absent from the household had double the odds of being incarcerated -- even when other factors such as race, income, parent education and urban residence were held constant." (Harper C, McLanahan SS. Cited in Father Absence and Youth Incarceration. Journal of Research on Adolescence. 2004.)




    But APAG doesn't think it would be better if there were less kids being raised by a single parent.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    Less kids being raised by a single parent and 95% of all children being born into a mom-dad environment are completely different questions.
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 6,996

    Less kids being raised by a single parent and 95% of all children being born into a mom-dad environment are completely different questions.

    Oh there he goes with the old rat two step. Now kobe is going to try and angle this loser argument to something that was never even part of the discussion. He lost the argument because he was all FEELINGS upped and facts made him look ridiculous.