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If liberals were really serious about doing something about poverty...
SFGbob
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they'd do something to address these facts:
When Moynihan wrote in 1965 on the coming destruction of the Black family, the out-of-wedlock birth rate was 25% among Blacks. In 1991, 68% of Black children were born outside of marriage. In 2011, 72% of Black babies were born to unmarried mothers.
Today those numbers are about 77% for blacks and 49% for Hispanics.
This is the real driver of poverty and pretty much every other social ill you can think of, in America today.
When Moynihan wrote in 1965 on the coming destruction of the Black family, the out-of-wedlock birth rate was 25% among Blacks. In 1991, 68% of Black children were born outside of marriage. In 2011, 72% of Black babies were born to unmarried mothers.
Today those numbers are about 77% for blacks and 49% for Hispanics.
This is the real driver of poverty and pretty much every other social ill you can think of, in America today.
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Imagine typing that out while thinking you’re not the racist.
What do you suggest we do, Bob? I would love to hear from the non racist how he plans to control the birth rate of people of color.
In the year 2000, the number of incarcerated African Americans had become 26 times the amount it had been in 1983.[citation needed]
In 2012, 88% of imprisonments from crack cocaine were African American. Further, the data shows the discrepancy between lengths of sentences of crack cocaine and heroin. The majority of crack imprisonments are placed in the 10–20 year range, while the imprisonments related to heroin use or possession range from 5–10 years which has led many to question and analyze the role race plays in this disparity.[17]
Btw, how do you explain the high out of wedlock birth rates from blacks even before those laws were enacted? I was around when those laws were passed and as I recall some of the loudest voices calling for increased penalties for crack were black Congressmen and women. In fact the were calling Reagan and Bush "racists" because they weren't doing enough to deal with the crack epidemic.
Flat out fucking lie. I never said that.
I would love to hear from the non racist how he plans to control the birth rate of people of color.
Another fucking lie. I never said anything about controlling the birth rates of any people.
I don't what people are talking about when they claim you used to be reasonable. Ever since I've been here you've always been a dishonest piece of shit.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/05/bernie_sanders_abortion_and_population_control_are_important_parts_of_addressing_climate_change.html
The last paragraph is quite interesting:
"And the Mexico City agreement, which denies American aid to those organizations around the world that allow women to have abortions or even get involved in birth control to me is totally absurd. So I think especially in poor countries around the world where women do not necessarily want to have large numbers of babies and where they can have the opportunity through birth control to control the number of kids they have, is something I very, very strongly support," he concluded.
But since it's under the umbrella of climate change, it's totally cool. Am I right APAG?
Suicide: 63 percent of youth suicides
Runaways: 90 percent of all homeless and runaway youths
Behavioral Disorders: 85 percent of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders
High School Dropouts: 71 percent of all high school dropouts
Juvenile Detention Rates: 70 percent of juveniles in state-operated institutions
Substance Abuse: 75 percent of adolescent patients in substance abuse centers
Aggression: 75 percent of rapists motivated by displaced anger
To back up that data from 1998, which continues to be cited by researchers, a 2016 report of teenagers placed in juvenile residential facilities shows that 45 percent were living with only one parent at the time. That is a significant difference when compared to 30 percent of teens in two-parent households.
Furthermore, individual studies over the years have noted similar challenges for children with an absent father:
Educational Attainment
Kids living in single-parent homes or in step-families report lower educational expectations on the part of their parents, less parental monitoring of school work, and less overall social supervision than children from intact families. (Astore NM, S. McLanahan S. American Sociological Review, No. 56. 1991)
Achievement
Children from low-income, two-parent families outperform students from high-income, single-parent homes. Almost twice as many high achievers come from two-parent homes as one-parent homes. (One-Parent Families and Their Children. Charles F. Kettering Foundation. 1990).
Drug Use
A study from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services concluded that fatherless children are at a dramatically greater risk of drug and alcohol abuse. (National Center for Health Statistics. Survey on Child Health. U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. 1993.)
Incarceration Rates
"Young men who grow up in homes without fathers are twice as likely to end up in jail as those who come from traditional two-parent families...those boys whose fathers were absent from the household had double the odds of being incarcerated -- even when other factors such as race, income, parent education and urban residence were held constant." (Harper C, McLanahan SS. Cited in Father Absence and Youth Incarceration. Journal of Research on Adolescence. 2004.)
You're trying to build his conclusion for him. All he's saying is that birth rates from unmarried minority women has been increasing over the years which has contributed to the high poverty rate with minorities. This fact is hard to refute. So instead of refuting the fact, you build a fucking strawman by creating a conclusion that he's proposing for government forced abortions of minorities, when there wasn't even a conclusion. The idea that you tie that fact into an abortion conclusion, tells me a lot about you.
Because there is no way a possible conclusion could be that poor people continue to be poor because they tend to make stupid decisions. That conclusion can't be true, because it rips apart the victim argument the left has been spewing for years.
But as you can see from the leftists that post here, they don't give a shit about it and they're not even willing to address the issue honestly.
Just my two cents here.