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If liberals were really serious about doing something about poverty...

SFGbob
SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
they'd do something to address these facts:

When Moynihan wrote in 1965 on the coming destruction of the Black family, the out-of-wedlock birth rate was 25% among Blacks. In 1991, 68% of Black children were born outside of marriage. In 2011, 72% of Black babies were born to unmarried mothers.

Today those numbers are about 77% for blacks and 49% for Hispanics.

This is the real driver of poverty and pretty much every other social ill you can think of, in America today.
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  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    Every social ill in America is the fault of people of color.

    Imagine typing that out while thinking you’re not the racist.

    What do you suggest we do, Bob? I would love to hear from the non racist how he plans to control the birth rate of people of color.
  • Gwad
    Gwad Member Posts: 2,855
    In 1986, the U.S. Congress passed laws that created a 100 to 1 sentencing disparity for the possession or trafficking of crack when compared to penalties for trafficking of powder cocaine,[2][3][4][5] which had been widely criticized as discriminatory against minorities, mostly African-Americans, who were more likely to use crack than powder cocaine.[6] This 100:1 ratio had been required under federal law since 1986.[16] Persons convicted in federal court of possession of 5 grams of crack cocaine received a minimum mandatory sentence of 5 years in federal prison. On the other hand, possession of 500 grams of powder cocaine carries the same sentence.[3][4] In 2010, the Fair Sentencing Act cut the sentencing disparity to 18:1.[6]

    In the year 2000, the number of incarcerated African Americans had become 26 times the amount it had been in 1983.[citation needed]

    In 2012, 88% of imprisonments from crack cocaine were African American. Further, the data shows the discrepancy between lengths of sentences of crack cocaine and heroin. The majority of crack imprisonments are placed in the 10–20 year range, while the imprisonments related to heroin use or possession range from 5–10 years which has led many to question and analyze the role race plays in this disparity.[17]
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    Every social ill in America is the fault of people of color.

    Imagine typing that out while thinking you’re not the racist.

    What do you suggest we do, Bob? I would love to hear from the non racist how he plans to control the birth rate of people of color.

    Yes, yes, because white people don't have kids out of wedlock. Imagine being such a dishonest lying piece of shit that you have to misrepresent what someone actually said just in order to call them a racist.

  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    Gwad said:

    In 1986, the U.S. Congress passed laws that created a 100 to 1 sentencing disparity for the possession or trafficking of crack when compared to penalties for trafficking of powder cocaine,[2][3][4][5] which had been widely criticized as discriminatory against minorities, mostly African-Americans, who were more likely to use crack than powder cocaine.[6] This 100:1 ratio had been required under federal law since 1986.[16] Persons convicted in federal court of possession of 5 grams of crack cocaine received a minimum mandatory sentence of 5 years in federal prison. On the other hand, possession of 500 grams of powder cocaine carries the same sentence.[3][4] In 2010, the Fair Sentencing Act cut the sentencing disparity to 18:1.[6]

    In the year 2000, the number of incarcerated African Americans had become 26 times the amount it had been in 1983.[citation needed]

    In 2012, 88% of imprisonments from crack cocaine were African American. Further, the data shows the discrepancy between lengths of sentences of crack cocaine and heroin. The majority of crack imprisonments are placed in the 10–20 year range, while the imprisonments related to heroin use or possession range from 5–10 years which has led many to question and analyze the role race plays in this disparity.[17]

    77% of all black children are born out of wedlock because so many blacks are in prison. Wow.

    Btw, how do you explain the high out of wedlock birth rates from blacks even before those laws were enacted? I was around when those laws were passed and as I recall some of the loudest voices calling for increased penalties for crack were black Congressmen and women. In fact the were calling Reagan and Bush "racists" because they weren't doing enough to deal with the crack epidemic.
  • Gwad
    Gwad Member Posts: 2,855
    Ok Bob I'm sure you're right and we are wrong. You're adolescent ego in a wrinkly body is dominating the Tug today.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    Gwad said:

    Ok Bob I'm sure you're right and we are wrong. You're adolescent ego in a wrinkly body is dominating the Tug today.

    What a fucking coward.
  • Gwad
    Gwad Member Posts: 2,855
    SFGbob said:

    Gwad said:

    Ok Bob I'm sure you're right and we are wrong. You're adolescent ego in a wrinkly body is dominating the Tug today.

    What a fucking coward.
    Disagree.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,610 Standard Supporter
    Gwad said:

    In 1986, the U.S. Congress passed laws that created a 100 to 1 sentencing disparity for the possession or trafficking of crack when compared to penalties for trafficking of powder cocaine,[2][3][4][5] which had been widely criticized as discriminatory against minorities, mostly African-Americans, who were more likely to use crack than powder cocaine.[6] This 100:1 ratio had been required under federal law since 1986.[16] Persons convicted in federal court of possession of 5 grams of crack cocaine received a minimum mandatory sentence of 5 years in federal prison. On the other hand, possession of 500 grams of powder cocaine carries the same sentence.[3][4] In 2010, the Fair Sentencing Act cut the sentencing disparity to 18:1.[6]

    In the year 2000, the number of incarcerated African Americans had become 26 times the amount it had been in 1983.[citation needed]

    In 2012, 88% of imprisonments from crack cocaine were African American. Further, the data shows the discrepancy between lengths of sentences of crack cocaine and heroin. The majority of crack imprisonments are placed in the 10–20 year range, while the imprisonments related to heroin use or possession range from 5–10 years which has led many to question and analyze the role race plays in this disparity.[17]

    I'll spell this out for you. Crack is made from cocaine. Most people snort the cocaine and do not use crack. Crack is has less cocaine content and is cheaper which is one of the reasons for it's popularity. Crack sales tend to be controlled by street gangs with a lot of surrounding violence to maintain territories. It's also much more addictive. I have no problem with harsher sentencing for it. Just because one race uses it more or another uses it less shouldn't change it.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    SFGbob said:

    Every social ill in America is the fault of people of color.

    Imagine typing that out while thinking you’re not the racist.

    What do you suggest we do, Bob? I would love to hear from the non racist how he plans to control the birth rate of people of color.

    Yes, yes, because white people don't have kids out of wedlock. Imagine being such a dishonest lying piece of shit that you have to misrepresent what someone actually said just in order to call them a racist.

    I didn’t misrepresent what you said, I repeated it back to you.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    SFGbob said:

    Every social ill in America is the fault of people of color.

    Imagine typing that out while thinking you’re not the racist.

    What do you suggest we do, Bob? I would love to hear from the non racist how he plans to control the birth rate of people of color.

    Yes, yes, because white people don't have kids out of wedlock. Imagine being such a dishonest lying piece of shit that you have to misrepresent what someone actually said just in order to call them a racist.

    I didn’t misrepresent what you said, I repeated it back to you.
    Every social ill in America is the fault of people of color.

    Flat out fucking lie. I never said that.


    I would love to hear from the non racist how he plans to control the birth rate of people of color.


    Another fucking lie. I never said anything about controlling the birth rates of any people.

    I don't what people are talking about when they claim you used to be reasonable. Ever since I've been here you've always been a dishonest piece of shit.