Move Salvon to WR
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Big Dick is alpha. Beta doogs around here don’t like that
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Player's fans read these boreds guys. Clean it up out here.
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"According to your site" lol
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His last two games, Ahmed seems to be refining into the best version of himself. Can't ask for more than that.
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Save for the goalline, loading the box is almost always not an efficient way to run the ball. This isn't the 1920s.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
We always motion guys. The TEs could shift. Run him off tackle, have our great OTs seal the edge. Have newt block on countersFKA_Mousecop said:
You want to take advantage of Salvons ability to make people miss in space by loading the box?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I guess my biggest issue is we are not doing enough to get Salvon in space. Id like to see a formation with Eason in shotgun, Salvon and Newton to either side, and 2 TEs in close.FirePete said:
Salvon strikes me as player that will have better NFL career than college, because nfl OC will figure out a way to get him the ball in space1to392831weretaken said:"I need to see Salvon make ONE person miss in the hole and gain yards for once."
Makes a safety miss in the hole en route to an 89 yard TD.
"I need to see Salvon be more physical."
Trucks a motherfucker for five yards against Cal.
"I need to see Salvon have better vision/patience."
I'd argue that his best run wasn't the long TD but rather the 1st quarter run from about the 7 where he patiently waited for a hole to open, saw it, and exploded through the 1 hole for a first down to the 2.
Ahmed is never going to be a power back because of the way he runs. He's big and strong enough, but he's very light on his feet. He kind of floats over the ground with a wide base. This allows him to be absolutely elite at shifting laterally without losing forward speed, but it costs him in fore/aft balance and drive. It's just the way he runs.
I also wish he could absorb more contact and not go down so easily, but I think that's just the way his body works, and he makes up for it in other ways. I totally agree that he's not complete, but I don't mind at all him leading the team in carries, as his presence on the field makes defensive coordinators absolutely shit their pants at the threat of the home run shot (like Saturday).
If this were OG Super Mario 2, Ahmed would be Luigi, Gaskin would be Mario, Dick Newt would be Toad. McGrew Princess Toadstool?... I don't know. Sounds like something we'd have to ask @Mike_Leech. -
Army and Air Force ran the ball down the throats of P5 schools using option formations. I think you still can get success with it even without being an option team. Misdirection, fake pitches, PA passes to Otton and BryantFKA_Mousecop said:
Save for the goalline, loading the box is almost always not an efficient way to run the ball. This isn't the 1920s.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
We always motion guys. The TEs could shift. Run him off tackle, have our great OTs seal the edge. Have newt block on countersFKA_Mousecop said:
You want to take advantage of Salvons ability to make people miss in space by loading the box?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I guess my biggest issue is we are not doing enough to get Salvon in space. Id like to see a formation with Eason in shotgun, Salvon and Newton to either side, and 2 TEs in close.FirePete said:
Salvon strikes me as player that will have better NFL career than college, because nfl OC will figure out a way to get him the ball in space1to392831weretaken said:"I need to see Salvon make ONE person miss in the hole and gain yards for once."
Makes a safety miss in the hole en route to an 89 yard TD.
"I need to see Salvon be more physical."
Trucks a motherfucker for five yards against Cal.
"I need to see Salvon have better vision/patience."
I'd argue that his best run wasn't the long TD but rather the 1st quarter run from about the 7 where he patiently waited for a hole to open, saw it, and exploded through the 1 hole for a first down to the 2.
Ahmed is never going to be a power back because of the way he runs. He's big and strong enough, but he's very light on his feet. He kind of floats over the ground with a wide base. This allows him to be absolutely elite at shifting laterally without losing forward speed, but it costs him in fore/aft balance and drive. It's just the way he runs.
I also wish he could absorb more contact and not go down so easily, but I think that's just the way his body works, and he makes up for it in other ways. I totally agree that he's not complete, but I don't mind at all him leading the team in carries, as his presence on the field makes defensive coordinators absolutely shit their pants at the threat of the home run shot (like Saturday).
If this were OG Super Mario 2, Ahmed would be Luigi, Gaskin would be Mario, Dick Newt would be Toad. McGrew Princess Toadstool?... I don't know. Sounds like something we'd have to ask @Mike_Leech. -
I still stand by my statement I would rather have Newton to pick up a yard on a critical 3rd and 1. Ahmed is the home run guy, he also is the run into his own offensive guard or get touched by a defender's fingernail and fall over guy. He had a great week last week and has had some big time runs this season, hopefully he can continue it.
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If we feed him the ball better we would be undefeatedNeGgaPlEaSe said:
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Newt is better but Salvon has been getting a lot better - so of course our idiot coaches start giving the ball to Pleasant
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Different styles, but according to some... Salvon is going pro this yearPostGameOrangeSlices said:Newt is better but Salvon has been getting a lot better - so of course our idiot coaches start giving the ball to Pleasant
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It Stanford. Newton was the best back for us that game until he got hurt. I would have liked Salvon to just get traditional carries on the 3rd and shorts vs Oregon.FirePete said:
If we feed him the ball better we would be undefeatedNeGgaPlEaSe said:
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We lost Cal because we got gashed one the ground, Baccallia’s not staying in bounds, and Luciano’s false start. -
Sorta agree.RoadDawg55 said:
It Stanford. Newton was the best back for us that game until he got hurt. I would have liked Salvon to just get traditional carries on the 3rd and shorts vs Oregon.FirePete said:
If we feed him the ball better we would be undefeatedNeGgaPlEaSe said:
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We lost Cal because we got gashed one the ground, Baccallia’s not staying in bounds, and Luciano’s false start.
Silly to point out what went wrong in losses. Damn near everything did because our coaching staff like to drive under the speed limit in a fucking 750 horsepower vehicle -
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Might as well say because Heaner got Eason’s reps, and the WR’s weren’t ready for Eason’s big dickRoadDawg55 said:
It Stanford. Newton was the best back for us that game until he got hurt. I would have liked Salvon to just get traditional carries on the 3rd and shorts vs Oregon.FirePete said:
If we feed him the ball better we would be undefeatedNeGgaPlEaSe said:
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We lost Cal because we got gashed one the ground, Baccallia’s not staying in bounds, and Luciano’s false start. -
Keep doubling down, tardo.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Newt is better but Salvon has been getting a lot better - so of course our idiot coaches start giving the ball to Pleasant
I know for a fact Dick Newt isn’t running for 140 against Oregon. -
You know that for a fact? Interesting since he was fucking hurt.backthepack said:
Keep doubling down, tardo.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Newt is better but Salvon has been getting a lot better - so of course our idiot coaches start giving the ball to Pleasant
I know for a fact Dick Newt isn’t running for 140 against Oregon.
If given the opportunities he absolutely is capable of doing that.
Something something truth in hand or its speculation -
If he was the best back on the roster he would have ran for more than 2.9 ypc against USC lol
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If Salvon was the best back on the roster he would have gotten the job done against Cal last year, Cal this year, Stanford this year, and been better in short yardage situations in general.backthepack said:If he was the best back on the roster he would have ran for more than 2.9 ypc against USC lol
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I would prefer that both Newton and Ahmed got 15+ carries a game like USC used Bush and White back in the day. They're both good at different things and pose different threats to the defense.
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Wait offensive line is a bigger indcator of short yardage plays? Who knew
He went for 21 and 119 against cal this yr.
I have no clue why he only got 6 carries against Stanford. That’s PetermanFS.
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Newton was getting it done in those same situations where Salvon was dancing around and getting stuffed. The wildcat was actually a halfway functional formation with Newton just taking the snap and running a fucking divebackthepack said:Wait offensive line is a bigger indcator of short yardage plays? Who knew
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114 carries 662 yards 5.8 ypc and 7 touchdowns but yeah he’s not the best back on the roster lmfao. Newton’s stat padded against the sister’s of the poor. Salvon’s showed up against every good defense we’ve faced.
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Salvon is the feature back now and Newton is hurt so the ytd stats are apples to oranges at this point.backthepack said:114 carries 662 yards 5.8 ypc and 7 touchdowns but yeah he’s not the best back on the roster lmfao. Newton’s stat padded against the sister’s of the poor. Salvon’s showed up against every good defense we’ve faced.
We get it, youre a jock sniffer and DDY lackey.
Like I said, Salvon is getting a lot better and in an ideal world him and Newton would be a thunder/lightning Gaskin/Coleman combo.
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Or, I don't know.. maybe they're both good, but just have different strengths??
I do know Ahmed, Newton, and Mcgrew should be a pretty good RB trio next year. Can't imagine Salvon would leave early..
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Dick Newt has meh vision, he’s not the quickest, he’s pretty slow (high 4.6 guy), and he’s not sudden at all he’s a plodder. He’s 6”0 220 tho. He’s a replacement level p-12 running back. He’ll probably end up like Lavon. He’s not going to start over Cam Davis when Salvon leaves.
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You dont know a fucking thing about football. Honestly.backthepack said:Dick Newt has meh vision, he’s not the quickest, he’s pretty slow (high 4.6 guy), and he’s not sudden at all he’s a plodder. He’s 6”0 220 tho. He’s a replacement level p-12 running back. He’ll probably end up like Lavon. He’s not going to start over Cam Davis when Salvon leaves.
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I am team salvon, but I think newton is a better college backbackthepack said:Dick Newt has meh vision, he’s not the quickest, he’s pretty slow (high 4.6 guy), and he’s not sudden at all he’s a plodder. He’s 6”0 220 tho. He’s a replacement level p-12 running back. He’ll probably end up like Lavon. He’s not going to start over Cam Davis when Salvon leaves.
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I’ve never seen Dick Newt make someone miss in space. He’s powerful i’ll give you that.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
You dont know a fucking thing about football. Honestly.backthepack said:Dick Newt has meh vision, he’s not the quickest, he’s pretty slow (high 4.6 guy), and he’s not sudden at all he’s a plodder. He’s 6”0 220 tho. He’s a replacement level p-12 running back. He’ll probably end up like Lavon. He’s not going to start over Cam Davis when Salvon leaves.
Cam Davis is the same body type but he’s explosive and very sudden. First career carry he ran over Pickett. -
What is better, juking someone or breaking a tackle? Im sure Newton has made someone miss, but he also breaks a shit load of tackles which is demoralizing and wears defenses down. Newton should be able to run Cuog, Gold Bear, Duck, everyone the fuck over in the coming years. Will our staff let him? Probably notbackthepack said:
I’ve never seen Dick Newt make someone miss in space. He’s powerful i’ll give you that.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
You dont know a fucking thing about football. Honestly.backthepack said:Dick Newt has meh vision, he’s not the quickest, he’s pretty slow (high 4.6 guy), and he’s not sudden at all he’s a plodder. He’s 6”0 220 tho. He’s a replacement level p-12 running back. He’ll probably end up like Lavon. He’s not going to start over Cam Davis when Salvon leaves.
Cam Davis is the same body type but he’s explosive and very sudden. First career carry he ran over Pickett.