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Move Salvon to WR

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  • SonnyShackelford
    SonnyShackelford Member Posts: 1,005
    edited October 2019
    Big Dick is alpha. Beta doogs around here don’t like that
  • FKA_Mousecop
    FKA_Mousecop Member Posts: 2,054

    FirePete said:

    "I need to see Salvon make ONE person miss in the hole and gain yards for once."
    Makes a safety miss in the hole en route to an 89 yard TD.

    "I need to see Salvon be more physical."
    Trucks a motherfucker for five yards against Cal.

    "I need to see Salvon have better vision/patience."
    I'd argue that his best run wasn't the long TD but rather the 1st quarter run from about the 7 where he patiently waited for a hole to open, saw it, and exploded through the 1 hole for a first down to the 2.

    Ahmed is never going to be a power back because of the way he runs. He's big and strong enough, but he's very light on his feet. He kind of floats over the ground with a wide base. This allows him to be absolutely elite at shifting laterally without losing forward speed, but it costs him in fore/aft balance and drive. It's just the way he runs.

    I also wish he could absorb more contact and not go down so easily, but I think that's just the way his body works, and he makes up for it in other ways. I totally agree that he's not complete, but I don't mind at all him leading the team in carries, as his presence on the field makes defensive coordinators absolutely shit their pants at the threat of the home run shot (like Saturday).

    If this were OG Super Mario 2, Ahmed would be Luigi, Gaskin would be Mario, Dick Newt would be Toad. McGrew Princess Toadstool?... I don't know. Sounds like something we'd have to ask @Mike_Leech.

    Salvon strikes me as player that will have better NFL career than college, because nfl OC will figure out a way to get him the ball in space
    I guess my biggest issue is we are not doing enough to get Salvon in space. Id like to see a formation with Eason in shotgun, Salvon and Newton to either side, and 2 TEs in close.
    You want to take advantage of Salvons ability to make people miss in space by loading the box?
    We always motion guys. The TEs could shift. Run him off tackle, have our great OTs seal the edge. Have newt block on counters
    Save for the goalline, loading the box is almost always not an efficient way to run the ball. This isn't the 1920s.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,145

    FirePete said:

    "I need to see Salvon make ONE person miss in the hole and gain yards for once."
    Makes a safety miss in the hole en route to an 89 yard TD.

    "I need to see Salvon be more physical."
    Trucks a motherfucker for five yards against Cal.

    "I need to see Salvon have better vision/patience."
    I'd argue that his best run wasn't the long TD but rather the 1st quarter run from about the 7 where he patiently waited for a hole to open, saw it, and exploded through the 1 hole for a first down to the 2.

    Ahmed is never going to be a power back because of the way he runs. He's big and strong enough, but he's very light on his feet. He kind of floats over the ground with a wide base. This allows him to be absolutely elite at shifting laterally without losing forward speed, but it costs him in fore/aft balance and drive. It's just the way he runs.

    I also wish he could absorb more contact and not go down so easily, but I think that's just the way his body works, and he makes up for it in other ways. I totally agree that he's not complete, but I don't mind at all him leading the team in carries, as his presence on the field makes defensive coordinators absolutely shit their pants at the threat of the home run shot (like Saturday).

    If this were OG Super Mario 2, Ahmed would be Luigi, Gaskin would be Mario, Dick Newt would be Toad. McGrew Princess Toadstool?... I don't know. Sounds like something we'd have to ask @Mike_Leech.

    Salvon strikes me as player that will have better NFL career than college, because nfl OC will figure out a way to get him the ball in space
    I guess my biggest issue is we are not doing enough to get Salvon in space. Id like to see a formation with Eason in shotgun, Salvon and Newton to either side, and 2 TEs in close.
    You want to take advantage of Salvons ability to make people miss in space by loading the box?
    We always motion guys. The TEs could shift. Run him off tackle, have our great OTs seal the edge. Have newt block on counters
    Save for the goalline, loading the box is almost always not an efficient way to run the ball. This isn't the 1920s.
    Army and Air Force ran the ball down the throats of P5 schools using option formations. I think you still can get success with it even without being an option team. Misdirection, fake pitches, PA passes to Otton and Bryant
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823


    😂

    If we feed him the ball better we would be undefeated
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,145
    Newt is better but Salvon has been getting a lot better - so of course our idiot coaches start giving the ball to Pleasant
  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,756

    Newt is better but Salvon has been getting a lot better - so of course our idiot coaches start giving the ball to Pleasant

    Different styles, but according to some... Salvon is going pro this year
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,145
    edited October 2019

    FirePete said:


    😂

    If we feed him the ball better we would be undefeated
    It Stanford. Newton was the best back for us that game until he got hurt. I would have liked Salvon to just get traditional carries on the 3rd and shorts vs Oregon.

    We lost Cal because we got gashed one the ground, Baccallia’s not staying in bounds, and Luciano’s false start.
    Sorta agree.

    Silly to point out what went wrong in losses. Damn near everything did because our coaching staff like to drive under the speed limit in a fucking 750 horsepower vehicle
  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,756

    FirePete said:


    😂

    If we feed him the ball better we would be undefeated
    It Stanford. Newton was the best back for us that game until he got hurt. I would have liked Salvon to just get traditional carries on the 3rd and shorts vs Oregon.

    We lost Cal because we got gashed one the ground, Baccallia’s not staying in bounds, and Luciano’s false start.
    Might as well say because Heaner got Eason’s reps, and the WR’s weren’t ready for Eason’s big dick
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937

    Newt is better but Salvon has been getting a lot better - so of course our idiot coaches start giving the ball to Pleasant

    Keep doubling down, tardo.


    I know for a fact Dick Newt isn’t running for 140 against Oregon.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,145
    edited October 2019

    Newt is better but Salvon has been getting a lot better - so of course our idiot coaches start giving the ball to Pleasant

    Keep doubling down, tardo.


    I know for a fact Dick Newt isn’t running for 140 against Oregon.
    You know that for a fact? Interesting since he was fucking hurt.

    If given the opportunities he absolutely is capable of doing that.

    Something something truth in hand or its speculation
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    If he was the best back on the roster he would have ran for more than 2.9 ypc against USC lol
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,145

    If he was the best back on the roster he would have ran for more than 2.9 ypc against USC lol

    If Salvon was the best back on the roster he would have gotten the job done against Cal last year, Cal this year, Stanford this year, and been better in short yardage situations in general.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    edited October 2019
    Wait offensive line is a bigger indcator of short yardage plays? Who knew


    He went for 21 and 119 against cal this yr.

    I have no clue why he only got 6 carries against Stanford. That’s PetermanFS.

    Literally every time he’s gotten 16+ carries he’s balled lol.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,145

    Wait offensive line is a bigger indcator of short yardage plays? Who knew

    Newton was getting it done in those same situations where Salvon was dancing around and getting stuffed. The wildcat was actually a halfway functional formation with Newton just taking the snap and running a fucking dive
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    114 carries 662 yards 5.8 ypc and 7 touchdowns but yeah he’s not the best back on the roster lmfao. Newton’s stat padded against the sister’s of the poor. Salvon’s showed up against every good defense we’ve faced.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,145

    114 carries 662 yards 5.8 ypc and 7 touchdowns but yeah he’s not the best back on the roster lmfao. Newton’s stat padded against the sister’s of the poor. Salvon’s showed up against every good defense we’ve faced.

    Salvon is the feature back now and Newton is hurt so the ytd stats are apples to oranges at this point.

    We get it, youre a jock sniffer and DDY lackey.

    Like I said, Salvon is getting a lot better and in an ideal world him and Newton would be a thunder/lightning Gaskin/Coleman combo.

    When I made this thread Salvon had looked like shit.
  • MakaDawg
    MakaDawg Member Posts: 492
    Or, I don't know.. maybe they're both good, but just have different strengths??

    I do know Ahmed, Newton, and Mcgrew should be a pretty good RB trio next year. Can't imagine Salvon would leave early..

  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    Dick Newt has meh vision, he’s not the quickest, he’s pretty slow (high 4.6 guy), and he’s not sudden at all he’s a plodder. He’s 6”0 220 tho. He’s a replacement level p-12 running back. He’ll probably end up like Lavon. He’s not going to start over Cam Davis when Salvon leaves.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    Dick Newt has meh vision, he’s not the quickest, he’s pretty slow (high 4.6 guy), and he’s not sudden at all he’s a plodder. He’s 6”0 220 tho. He’s a replacement level p-12 running back. He’ll probably end up like Lavon. He’s not going to start over Cam Davis when Salvon leaves.

    I am team salvon, but I think newton is a better college back
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937

    Dick Newt has meh vision, he’s not the quickest, he’s pretty slow (high 4.6 guy), and he’s not sudden at all he’s a plodder. He’s 6”0 220 tho. He’s a replacement level p-12 running back. He’ll probably end up like Lavon. He’s not going to start over Cam Davis when Salvon leaves.

    You dont know a fucking thing about football. Honestly.
    I’ve never seen Dick Newt make someone miss in space. He’s powerful i’ll give you that.


    Cam Davis is the same body type but he’s explosive and very sudden. First career carry he ran over Pickett.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,145

    Dick Newt has meh vision, he’s not the quickest, he’s pretty slow (high 4.6 guy), and he’s not sudden at all he’s a plodder. He’s 6”0 220 tho. He’s a replacement level p-12 running back. He’ll probably end up like Lavon. He’s not going to start over Cam Davis when Salvon leaves.

    You dont know a fucking thing about football. Honestly.
    I’ve never seen Dick Newt make someone miss in space. He’s powerful i’ll give you that.


    Cam Davis is the same body type but he’s explosive and very sudden. First career carry he ran over Pickett.
    What is better, juking someone or breaking a tackle? Im sure Newton has made someone miss, but he also breaks a shit load of tackles which is demoralizing and wears defenses down. Newton should be able to run Cuog, Gold Bear, Duck, everyone the fuck over in the coming years. Will our staff let him? Probably not