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RaceBannon
RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club
A defiant President Trump said during a press conference in New York Wednesday that he wants "full transparency" not only over the "so-called whistleblower" allegations leveled against him, but also "from Joe Biden and his son Hunter on the millions of dollars that have been quickly and easily taken out of Ukraine and China."

Trump additionally demanded "transparency from Democrats who went to Ukraine and attempted to force the new president ... to do things that they wanted under the form of political threat. They threatened him if he didn't do things -- now that's what they're accusing me of, but I didn't do it."

The aggressive move signaled that the White House would seek to turn the tables against Democrats who have initiated an impeachment inquiry, following the whistleblower's complaint that Trump had improperly pressured Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate Biden. Zelensky, speaking across from Trump just an hour earlier, told reporters he did not feel "pushed" at all in his conversations with the president.



Earlier in the day, the White House released a transcript of Trump's July call with Zelensky, showing Trump sought a review of Biden family dealings in the country. But the transcript also did not demonstrate that Trump leveraged military aid to Ukraine to obtain a "promise" on a Biden investigation, as a widely cited report in The Washington Post had claimed.

At the press conference, Trump specifically called attention to a little-discussed CNN report from May, which described how Democratic Sens. Robert Menendez, Dick Durbin, and Patrick Leahy pushed Ukraine’s top prosecutor not to close four investigations perceived as critical to then-Special Counsel Robert Mueller's Russia probe -- and, by Democrats' current logic, seemingly implied that their support for U.S. aid to Ukraine was at stake.

"The Democrats have done what they're accusing me of doing," Trump said.



https://foxnews.com/politics/trump-holds-presser-amid-explosive-transcript-release-dems-impeachment-push


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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Now just so hondo doesn't get confused, I am saying that it is a great idea to impeach Trump and I am not mad at all about it

    Who are you kidding? You're blue in the face arguing against impeachment.
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    Ben Sasse after reading the whistleblower complaint...Republicans ought not to be rushing to circle the wagons to say there’s no there there when there’s obviously lots that’s very troubling there...uhoh.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    GDS said:

    Ben Sasse after reading the whistleblower complaint...Republicans ought not to be rushing to circle the wagons to say there’s no there there when there’s obviously lots that’s very troubling there...uhoh.

    I'll wait until I can read it myself, and anyone who witnessed your jackass dance over the phone conversation the last 36 hours would be wise to do the same.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club
    GDS said:

    Ben Sasse after reading the whistleblower complaint...Republicans ought not to be rushing to circle the wagons to say there’s no there there when there’s obviously lots that’s very troubling there...uhoh.

    From the whistle blower who didn't hear the call that we have a transcript of that showed nothing there?

    You ok Scott? I have some nice beach front property in Nebraska that you can buy and take a walk on to get some perspective
  • Dude61
    Dude61 Member Posts: 1,254

    I do not support impeachment of President Trump. I have just read the whistleblower complaint made available to House Intelligence Committee Members. I believe strongly in transparency and it should be immediately declassified and made public for the American people to read.

    — Elise Stefanik (@EliseStefanik) September 25, 2019
    Why don't we declassify the complaint and see what is says?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club
    Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) said Wednesday that a whistleblower complaint concerning a call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky contained “lots that’s very troubling,” warning his GOP colleagues not to dismiss it.

    “Republicans ought not to be rushing to circle the wagons to say there’s no there there when there’s obviously lots that’s very troubling here,” Sasse said after reviewing the complaint, according to an NBC News reporter. “The administration ought not be attacking the whistleblower as some talking points suggest they plan to do.”

    However, Sasse also castigated the media and House Democrats who have announced an impeachment inquiry based on the whistleblower complaint, saying “Democrats ought not to be using the word impeach before they have the whistleblower complaint or before they read any of the transcript.”

    Sounds like old news and smells of desperation on the part of team hondo
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    Ben Sasse after reading the whistleblower complaint...Republicans ought not to be rushing to circle the wagons to say there’s no there there when there’s obviously lots that’s very troubling there...uhoh.

    I'll wait until I can read it myself, and anyone who witnessed your jackass dance over the phone conversation the last 36 hours would be wise to do the same.
    No one translates into the language of dumbfuckery like you GayBob. Trumptards await your upcoming dance. Faster GayBob! Faster’
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    Ben Sasse after reading the whistleblower complaint...Republicans ought not to be rushing to circle the wagons to say there’s no there there when there’s obviously lots that’s very troubling there...uhoh.

    I'll wait until I can read it myself, and anyone who witnessed your jackass dance over the phone conversation the last 36 hours would be wise to do the same.
    The memo released today summarizing the call was far worse then I could have imagined. Let's hope the complaint gets declassified and released in it's entirety so we can all see what according to Sasse is so very troubling.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    Ben Sasse after reading the whistleblower complaint...Republicans ought not to be rushing to circle the wagons to say there’s no there there when there’s obviously lots that’s very troubling there...uhoh.

    I'll wait until I can read it myself, and anyone who witnessed your jackass dance over the phone conversation the last 36 hours would be wise to do the same.
    The memo released today summarizing the call was far worse then I could have imagined. Let's hope the complaint gets declassified and released in it's entirety so we can all see what according to Sasse is so very troubling.
    Yes, yes, far, far worse that's why it had none of the things you were predicting in it.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club
    edited September 2019
    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    Ben Sasse after reading the whistleblower complaint...Republicans ought not to be rushing to circle the wagons to say there’s no there there when there’s obviously lots that’s very troubling there...uhoh.

    I'll wait until I can read it myself, and anyone who witnessed your jackass dance over the phone conversation the last 36 hours would be wise to do the same.
    The memo released today summarizing the call was far worse then I could have imagined. Let's hope the complaint gets declassified and released in it's entirety so we can all see what according to Sasse is so very troubling.
    What do you think the WORST thing you heard today is?
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    Ben Sasse after reading the whistleblower complaint...Republicans ought not to be rushing to circle the wagons to say there’s no there there when there’s obviously lots that’s very troubling there...uhoh.

    I'll wait until I can read it myself, and anyone who witnessed your jackass dance over the phone conversation the last 36 hours would be wise to do the same.
    The memo released today summarizing the call was far worse then I could have imagined. Let's hope the complaint gets declassified and released in it's entirety so we can all see what according to Sasse is so very troubling.
    Yes, yes, far, far worse that's why it had none of the things you were predicting in it.
    Can you go ahead and post what I predicted was in the memo summarizing the call? I'll take your reply off the air...
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    President threaten to withhold $$$ unless they agreed to investigate Biden. Mentioned 8 times Biden and the need to investigate him and his son. Quid pro quo was clear and obvious. All of that was what we were told was in the transcript that Trump was stonewalling and hiding from the Rats.
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    SFGbob said:

    President threaten to withhold $$$ unless they agreed to investigate Biden. Mentioned 8 times Biden and the need to investigate him and his son. Quid pro quo was clear and obvious. All of that was what we were told was in the transcript that Trump was stonewalling and hiding from the Rats.

    I predicted all of that was in the memo summarizing the phone call? Should be easy to post the link to my post then. Standing by.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    President threaten to withhold $$$ unless they agreed to investigate Biden. Mentioned 8 times Biden and the need to investigate him and his son. Quid pro quo was clear and obvious. All of that was what we were told was in the transcript that Trump was stonewalling and hiding from the Rats.

    I predicted all of that was in the memo summarizing the phone call? Should be easy to post the link to my post then. Standing by.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power.
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    President threaten to withhold $$$ unless they agreed to investigate Biden. Mentioned 8 times Biden and the need to investigate him and his son. Quid pro quo was clear and obvious. All of that was what we were told was in the transcript that Trump was stonewalling and hiding from the Rats.

    I predicted all of that was in the memo summarizing the phone call? Should be easy to post the link to my post then. Standing by.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power.
    No link? Probably because I didn't predict the memo summarizing the call contained that. But that post is certainly still true. We know Trump was witholding military aid. We also saw in the memo released today summarizing the call that Trump was pressuring Ukraine to reopen an investigation about Biden. You going to post a link or just admit you were wrong (aka as you would call it a lie)?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club
    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    President threaten to withhold $$$ unless they agreed to investigate Biden. Mentioned 8 times Biden and the need to investigate him and his son. Quid pro quo was clear and obvious. All of that was what we were told was in the transcript that Trump was stonewalling and hiding from the Rats.

    I predicted all of that was in the memo summarizing the phone call? Should be easy to post the link to my post then. Standing by.
    I'd be looking for a rabbit hole too if I was you

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,881

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    President threaten to withhold $$$ unless they agreed to investigate Biden. Mentioned 8 times Biden and the need to investigate him and his son. Quid pro quo was clear and obvious. All of that was what we were told was in the transcript that Trump was stonewalling and hiding from the Rats.

    I predicted all of that was in the memo summarizing the phone call? Should be easy to post the link to my post then. Standing by.
    I'd be looking for a rabbit hole too if I was you

    You and blob should get a room.
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    President threaten to withhold $$$ unless they agreed to investigate Biden. Mentioned 8 times Biden and the need to investigate him and his son. Quid pro quo was clear and obvious. All of that was what we were told was in the transcript that Trump was stonewalling and hiding from the Rats.

    I predicted all of that was in the memo summarizing the phone call? Should be easy to post the link to my post then. Standing by.
    I'd be looking for a rabbit hole too if I was you

    Your pal Blob is struggling here...can you help him out?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Yeah, it's not in the transcript. It's in the complaint that's based upon the conversation that was in the transcript. Totally different.


    Look for Scotty to either run and hide like a Kunt after the release of the Complaint or he'll go the O'Keefed route and just declare the treason is clear and obvious to anyone who isn't unpatriotic.
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    SFGbob said:

    Yeah, it's not in the transcript. It's in the complaint that's based upon the conversation that was in the transcript. Totally different.


    Look for Scotty to either run and hide like a Kunt after the release of the Complaint or he'll go the O'Keefed route and just declare the treason is clear and obvious to anyone who isn't unpatriotic.

    so no link? Did you just get it wrong then or was it a lie?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    President threaten to withhold $$$ unless they agreed to investigate Biden. Mentioned 8 times Biden and the need to investigate him and his son. Quid pro quo was clear and obvious. All of that was what we were told was in the transcript that Trump was stonewalling and hiding from the Rats.

    I predicted all of that was in the memo summarizing the phone call? Should be easy to post the link to my post then. Standing by.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power.
    No link? Probably because I didn't predict the memo summarizing the call contained that. But that post is certainly still true. We know Trump was witholding military aid. We also saw in the memo released today summarizing the call that Trump was pressuring Ukraine to reopen an investigation about Biden. You going to post a link or just admit you were wrong (aka as you would call it a lie)?
    Yes, yes he was "pressuring" him by asking if he could look into it. You're "pressuring" me right now with your dishonesty Scotty.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club
    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    President threaten to withhold $$$ unless they agreed to investigate Biden. Mentioned 8 times Biden and the need to investigate him and his son. Quid pro quo was clear and obvious. All of that was what we were told was in the transcript that Trump was stonewalling and hiding from the Rats.

    I predicted all of that was in the memo summarizing the phone call? Should be easy to post the link to my post then. Standing by.
    I'd be looking for a rabbit hole too if I was you

    Your pal Blob is struggling here...can you help him out?
    Bob didn't lie about a Sasse quote from yesterday trying to pretend it was today

    You give hondo a run for his money as a pathological liar
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club

    GDS said:

    Ben Sasse after reading the whistleblower complaint...Republicans ought not to be rushing to circle the wagons to say there’s no there there when there’s obviously lots that’s very troubling there...uhoh.

    From the whistle blower who didn't hear the call that we have a transcript of that showed nothing there?

    You ok Scott? I have some nice beach front property in Nebraska that you can buy and take a walk on to get some perspective
    Bump
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club

    Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) said Wednesday that a whistleblower complaint concerning a call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky contained “lots that’s very troubling,” warning his GOP colleagues not to dismiss it.

    “Republicans ought not to be rushing to circle the wagons to say there’s no there there when there’s obviously lots that’s very troubling here,” Sasse said after reviewing the complaint, according to an NBC News reporter. “The administration ought not be attacking the whistleblower as some talking points suggest they plan to do.”

    However, Sasse also castigated the media and House Democrats who have announced an impeachment inquiry based on the whistleblower complaint, saying “Democrats ought not to be using the word impeach before they have the whistleblower complaint or before they read any of the transcript.”

    Sounds like old news and smells of desperation on the part of team hondo

    Bump
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470

    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    President threaten to withhold $$$ unless they agreed to investigate Biden. Mentioned 8 times Biden and the need to investigate him and his son. Quid pro quo was clear and obvious. All of that was what we were told was in the transcript that Trump was stonewalling and hiding from the Rats.

    I predicted all of that was in the memo summarizing the phone call? Should be easy to post the link to my post then. Standing by.
    I'd be looking for a rabbit hole too if I was you

    Your pal Blob is struggling here...can you help him out?
    Bob didn't lie about a Sasse quote from yesterday trying to pretend it was today

    You give hondo a run for his money as a pathological liar
    Did you forget what day it is old man? It’s still Wednesday here in the good ole USA
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    edited September 2019

    Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) said Wednesday that a whistleblower complaint concerning a call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky contained “lots that’s very troubling,” warning his GOP colleagues not to dismiss it.

    “Republicans ought not to be rushing to circle the wagons to say there’s no there there when there’s obviously lots that’s very troubling here,” Sasse said after reviewing the complaint, according to an NBC News reporter. “The administration ought not be attacking the whistleblower as some talking points suggest they plan to do.”

    However, Sasse also castigated the media and House Democrats who have announced an impeachment inquiry based on the whistleblower complaint, saying “Democrats ought not to be using the word impeach before they have the whistleblower complaint or before they read any of the transcript.”

    Sounds like old news and smells of desperation on the part of team hondo

    Bump
    Great bump. Now that the house intelligence committee has seen the complaint too is it ok for the impeachment you want to proceed? Shouldn’t take too long for hearings and a vote. The speaker trump doesn’t acknowledge says she can wrap it up before the end of the year. Work for you?
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470

    GDS said:

    Ben Sasse after reading the whistleblower complaint...Republicans ought not to be rushing to circle the wagons to say there’s no there there when there’s obviously lots that’s very troubling there...uhoh.

    From the whistle blower who didn't hear the call that we have a transcript of that showed nothing there?

    You ok Scott? I have some nice beach front property in Nebraska that you can buy and take a walk on to get some perspective
    Bump
    I’m great. Concerned about though as you seem to think Wednesday was yesterday....
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club

    However, Sasse also castigated the media and House Democrats who have announced an impeachment inquiry based on the whistleblower complaint, saying “Democrats ought not to be using the word impeach before they have the whistleblower complaint or before they read any of the transcript.”

    We've read the transcript

    And yes thanks to Trump I barely know what day it is because I'm so busy making money

    My bad but point stands

    You parsed the quote to make it appear it was after he read it